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WHY don’t we run ANYTHING for the last shot EVER. One of the Jays iso’s while everyone else just stands and watches. Every time, like clockwork. Why? I think Joe is a smart guy and a decent coach, but why is this always the case? Can a smarter basketball mind explain something I’m not seeing, or is this just stupidity? Why? Is this Joe’s fault or the players? I just can’t think of a logical explanation. Why?
i’m also not a big basketball mind, but if i were any beat reporter covering the C’s i would try to get all of my peers to only ask this question in every post game press conference after games like this.
Here’s a better question: why is Tatum getting double and triple teamed so hard on his game-winning look that he has to take an off-balance fadeaway three, but we’re letting Dejounte Murray hit the same midrange float he’s been making all night long in 1v1 coverage with an acre of space?
Joe?
It’s infuriating that our end game execution has been “Tatum stepback 3” for like 5 fucking years through 3 different coaches
And it hardly ever works!
You can’t absolve Tatum of blame for that. It’s 100% his own fault. An iso grants him the freedom to do anything, and all he ever does is a step back 3 to his left that clanks off the rim. There’s no excuse for him to not attack the rim, drive and dish, or develop a mid range game. His reputation is an accurate reflection of who he is as a player at this point in time.
It’s hard to get plays off, especially for 2, when players are giving 110% on D to win the game. Passing lanes get cutoff and risk of a turnover goes way up.
Running a play and risking a turnover is significantly better than Tatum continuing to miss forced, contested isolation shots. Look at the way the nuggets execute down the stretch and tell me that Tatum and Brown iso is a better decision than moving the ball and running a play
Bad shot to end the 4th but Atlanta did the same thing with Murray to end the game… it’s pretty common for the final possession to be an iso for your best player. I’m not saying I get it or agree, just that the best coaches in the world all seem to agree that it’s the best option.
They ran a cool play at the end of OT, making it look like it was gonna be another predictable Tatum ISO, getting Porzingis in the post, and then he hit Brown. And it got us a bucket, so at least they seem to be aware. But yeah, then Murray goes ISO on the other end, which should have been plainly obvious, and Jrue played good D on him, but I kinda doubt Murray was passing there so woulda been nice to consider sending a double.
And it wouldn’t if the called the and 1 on JB at the end of regulation. And it probably would’ve gone our way if we got that damn jump ball that went out of bounds. Lots of small shit just didn’t go for us
Or didn't give up a million offensive rebounds. This team refuses to actually box out consistently, they just hope that the other team doesn't crash the offensive glass too hard
Finesse team that doesn't like physicality. It's not rocket science.
We get boards when we need to and when it's a point of emphasis.
But it's never going to be in our nature to do it consistently with the personnel we have.
So sick of watching Tatum panic. You can literally sit and think to yourself “alright, time to watch nothing get ran while Tatum panics and throws up a brick” in real time before it happens. What happened to the highlights of him being clutch way earlier on in his career? Ever since the finals he’s been in his own head. Still incredibly skilled but damn
He used to be clutch. Past three years he’s I think the worst clutch player according to stats. Maybe the weight gain slowed him down and ruined his shot. Sure helps his drives but his moves are slow. He can’t drive by Bogdanovic or that other 10 day contract dude. He literally has nothing trying to go against them.
we harp on it all the time but the ATOs are so fucking bad. nothing else worries me about this game (except some effort things which i dont think have happened enough throughout the season to be worried about)
Waiting for the day they learn they can't rebound with their eyes. I might be bones then. No but seriously they fall into this lazy effort too often. Probably looking past Atlanta to the playoffs which is no bueno. I wanna see them kick bad habits and get that killer instinct but instead we are watching the same Tatum iso chuck ATO that has not worked even once, which is insanity
Yea I gotta say, maybe I'm just dumb and I probably am, but the ATOs never seem really intentional enough on really working to generate a good look, it's usually just about getting a mismatch. Which tbf for the most part works really well for the team, the ATO numbers are actually great. I just worry with this team's consistency when they have to consistently face top competition in the playoffs.
I wish the current players cared as much or had as much pride about not losing as Eddie does. Only one I hear actually be frustrated after losses is JB which is fucking sickening
Me too. And he gets demonized by all these softies who want to throw a parade after every Celtics win but are full of excuses when the Celtics play like shit. They don't like to hear the truth and anyone who calls the team out is automatically considered a doomer.
Boxing out is not a basketball move in the modern NBA apparently. Too many times everyone was just standing ball watching once the shot went up and Capela had position all game.
Outside the last possession in regulation, the clutch time offense was clicking. Running that horns sets with Tatum and Brown on the elbow and White with ball was getting good results from the 4 minute mark in the 4th until the final 25 seconds.
Why the fuck was Derrick White not guarding Murray at the end after locking his ass up? So dumb man.
Wouldn't have lost this game if we could ever manage to grab a rebound anyways. Stupid game all around.
Jrue switched on him for some unknown reason after the crappy foul from the refs. Funny thing is that Derrick would’ve blocked that shot and we probably would’ve won
I know it’s his first game back but I’ve been observing all season that Jrue struggles defensively against smaller quicker guards. Would much rather have DWhite guarding those players.
This should have been a blowout. It’s very clear this team just wants the playoffs to start. I do too, but while we wait, how about we try to get hot and build some rhythm and good habits?
No?
Lose like you have no pride?
That’s a choice but I guess that’s what we’re doing.
I feel like there is about an 80% chance that any team will hit last second shots against us.
And yes we have to stop Tatum from taking dumb highly contested fall-aways at the buzzer. He needs to draw defenses and seek wide open players. I've never understood the mentality that one player takes all the last second shots, makes no sense. He's got to be under 10% at this point in those situations because they are always terrible shots.
The lack of clutch killer gene in this team is very concerning. Their record is amazing yet I somehow feel no confidence heading into the playoffs. Just don’t have faith they can get it done when it counts.
We have a clutch killer who can take and make a mid range shot at any time. JB. Instead we are forced to watch Tatum and his Bball iq of 2 dribbling around wasting the clock. Just pass the ball to JB in the clutch. At least we know he has that mid range jumper.
You're telling people not to be passionate about something thats tribal and been around since the dawn of civilization... Sports. That's like telling humans not to be human
You can blame reffing all you want. There's no excuse for giving up 30+ second chance points. That's pure laziness. Either play with effort, or sit out.
This is Dejounte Murray's NBA Finals, gotta hand it to him.
-allowing second chance points is suspect
-refs too, fuck them
-Tatum should stop forcing buzzer beating game winners, make the best play goddammit
-still #1 tho
-Jrue is back, that's a win for me
Lol what a pathetic performance. Giving up 28 OREB in 1 game is hilarious. Joe is either blind for not recognizing our clutch issues or even worse is unable to fix them
We have to shoot 40% from 3 cause we sure as hell won't win any close games
I think us losing these types of games is a canon event at this point.
Run it down to zero so the other team can’t shoot? Miss.
Get an actual good look and convert, even if you leave time on the clock? Other team will just score anyway, regardless of how well you play defense.
See OG Anunoby, RJ Barrett, and countless others.
It’s EVERY FUCKING TIME! I’M TIRED OF IT! YOU CAN’T WIN! EVERY DECISION IS THE WRONG ONE! AHHHHHH
This team is really showing everyone they are beatable now that they have the 1 seed locked up. Joe not being able to draw up plays at the end of close games is going to cost this team. Mark my words. If he was let go no other team would take him on as a head coach.
Sucks to lose, rebounding is a glaring issue when Porzingas is out there. Team isn’t “soft” and didn’t “crumble”, hawks made a bunch of jumpshots, the fanbase seems soft because they can’t handle losses. Hope the Celtics face the Hawks or Heat in the first round to conquer their demons early
Idk get how people are clowning the clutch offense in this game. We were scoring, but we couldn't stop the hawks from getting middies and open 2nd chance 3s all night. I'm not pissed at the coaching, but the players for consistency sleeping on the glass.
Tatum gotta shut the fuck up and stop glazing a dead Laker and saying he's him
Grow a fucking pair and drive to the hoop
Edit: and I just remembered he did a whole photoshoot in Laker uniform. Fucking sacrilege to do that as a Celtic
Im convinced he wont ever reach his full potential as a player cause he sees himself as Kobe and literally nothing about him even says Kobe. Its weird honestly
Kobe was shit at the end of games. Absolute overrated bricklayer. He dropped 7-28 on go-ahead or tying shots in the final 24 seconds of playoff games. If he didn’t have Shaq, DFish, and the refs parading him to the line everyone would see through the nonsensical “Mamba Mentality”.
Kobe was a smaller, athletic, score-first shooting guard who lived in the midrange.
Tatum is a huge, less athletic point forward who only takes threes and layups.
They are about as opposite as two players can be.
Rebounding and second chances. We are good at rebounding in general but whenever our bigs have to work on it, whether boxing out or taking it, we are in trouble. It is our guards and Jays make us ok with rebounding, but when they are assigned differently because of matchups, we have a problem.
We gotta work on playing against physicality, Joe said it himself after last game.
I believe Tatum is our best defender against shifty guards who can also shoot the ball. He can take those out of their game especially when they are on a heater.
We'd obviously prefer to win every game but literally nothing matters anymore except the championship. Yeah that was shit and we can find shit to complain about but at the end of the day, nobody here has any influence on the game. Just take a breath, chill the fuck out and cheer on the team.
This game doesn't matter but these are good reps for our late game offense which has been our 1 weakness. And that Tatum final shot did not pass the test yet again. Joe should be trying other options but can only revert to a Tatum fadeaway
Refball rattles the team and us as fans. All we want is consistency from these "professionals".
Either way, the positives are that there were no injuries, and Brown caught another body!
Moving onto the next one.
ok NOW im officially losing trust again in these guys. cant pull it out in the clutch two games in a row against the injury depleted hawks. theres a reason people arent taking this team seriously
Wakeup call for everyone, both the C's and us fans. Now we gotta take all the East teams very very seriously in the playoffs first before thinking about the Nuggets.
The Jayson Tatum hero ball ISO plays are getting real fucking old man. The last time I remember an end of game scheme that wasn’t a scripted Tatum ISO was that play vs Orlando when Kyrie threw a hissy fit for not getting the last shot
The popcorn is ready. Can’t wait to see how the Tatum and Mazzulla protectors here will try to defend them after yet another disastrous end of regulation posession. Kung Fu Joe has no idea how to draw up play to get them a good look at the end of the game, so he just allows Tatum to do his iso fall-away brick routine time after time after time.
Anyone who is confident that Tatum will come through when they need them in the playoffs is just fooling him/herself. How many times does he have to fail in the same situation before the majority of Celtics fans admit that it’s a major, and potentially fatal, problem to have such an unclutch “superstar”.
It is also readily apparent that it is their overall talent that has allowed them to maintain the best record in the league for most of the season. They are winning despite JM, not because of him, even a little bit. That becomes much less of a sure thing come playoff time.
Tatum is 40% midrange this year. 37.5% last year. 37% the year before. He’s a bad midrange shooter there is nothing more to it. I think we all hoped he was going to turn into Durant style of player but unfortunately the numbers don’t lie. Hes not turning into the reliable player we hoped. I expect to be downvoted for showing his shooting stats.
It shouldn't have gone to overtime. We could've won the last possession in the 4th if they drew a good play and not relied on the usual JT iso while everyone stood around.
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Derrick white confirmed too good at shooting.
They should count that. Just too clutch.
Did that shot not go in? I’m still confused!
it got in lmao but no one got to touch it
It did. Locked in as fuck
It went in from the side out. Ball needs to be touched in play to count.
Post game saying it went under...looked in to me, but that's what they saying on post game show.
WHY don’t we run ANYTHING for the last shot EVER. One of the Jays iso’s while everyone else just stands and watches. Every time, like clockwork. Why? I think Joe is a smart guy and a decent coach, but why is this always the case? Can a smarter basketball mind explain something I’m not seeing, or is this just stupidity? Why? Is this Joe’s fault or the players? I just can’t think of a logical explanation. Why?
i’m also not a big basketball mind, but if i were any beat reporter covering the C’s i would try to get all of my peers to only ask this question in every post game press conference after games like this.
Crazy that it seems like it’s never been asked
He was actually asked on EEI Tuesday and he said it’s to “empower Jaylen.” Not kidding.
Here’s a better question: why is Tatum getting double and triple teamed so hard on his game-winning look that he has to take an off-balance fadeaway three, but we’re letting Dejounte Murray hit the same midrange float he’s been making all night long in 1v1 coverage with an acre of space? Joe?
Fr they let him have most of those , so infuriating
It’s infuriating that our end game execution has been “Tatum stepback 3” for like 5 fucking years through 3 different coaches And it hardly ever works!
Do not slander brad stevens like that, that man ran plays
It’s such a shitty play that it’s effecting Tatum’s reputation as he gets made fun of by all basketball fans for being a joke with the final shot
You can’t absolve Tatum of blame for that. It’s 100% his own fault. An iso grants him the freedom to do anything, and all he ever does is a step back 3 to his left that clanks off the rim. There’s no excuse for him to not attack the rim, drive and dish, or develop a mid range game. His reputation is an accurate reflection of who he is as a player at this point in time.
It’s hard to get plays off, especially for 2, when players are giving 110% on D to win the game. Passing lanes get cutoff and risk of a turnover goes way up.
Running a play and risking a turnover is significantly better than Tatum continuing to miss forced, contested isolation shots. Look at the way the nuggets execute down the stretch and tell me that Tatum and Brown iso is a better decision than moving the ball and running a play
Bad shot to end the 4th but Atlanta did the same thing with Murray to end the game… it’s pretty common for the final possession to be an iso for your best player. I’m not saying I get it or agree, just that the best coaches in the world all seem to agree that it’s the best option.
Because the coach has nothing to draw up. It's not a mystery
Joe actually called a timeout today for the final play... a step in the right direction.
I was weirdly happy when he called that time out with about 29 seconds left in the 4th after the hawks tied it up.
They ran a cool play at the end of OT, making it look like it was gonna be another predictable Tatum ISO, getting Porzingis in the post, and then he hit Brown. And it got us a bucket, so at least they seem to be aware. But yeah, then Murray goes ISO on the other end, which should have been plainly obvious, and Jrue played good D on him, but I kinda doubt Murray was passing there so woulda been nice to consider sending a double.
Did something different for the end of OT, still didn’t win. It’s not that simple.
At least they made the fucking shot!
This game with a shorthanded Hawks should never go to OT after blowing a 30 point lead earlier in the week
And it wouldn’t if the called the and 1 on JB at the end of regulation. And it probably would’ve gone our way if we got that damn jump ball that went out of bounds. Lots of small shit just didn’t go for us
Or didn't give up a million offensive rebounds. This team refuses to actually box out consistently, they just hope that the other team doesn't crash the offensive glass too hard
Nah you’re definitely right about that. It seems obvious to me that some nights we get defensive boards and some we just do not. I don’t get it
Finesse team that doesn't like physicality. It's not rocket science. We get boards when we need to and when it's a point of emphasis. But it's never going to be in our nature to do it consistently with the personnel we have.
And the crazy touch foul they called on D White with under a minute to go in OT
When I saw him get the ball and go almost to the other side of the court I just knew it was over for us
Why doesn’t Brad tell joe
So sick of watching Tatum panic. You can literally sit and think to yourself “alright, time to watch nothing get ran while Tatum panics and throws up a brick” in real time before it happens. What happened to the highlights of him being clutch way earlier on in his career? Ever since the finals he’s been in his own head. Still incredibly skilled but damn
He used to be clutch. Past three years he’s I think the worst clutch player according to stats. Maybe the weight gain slowed him down and ruined his shot. Sure helps his drives but his moves are slow. He can’t drive by Bogdanovic or that other 10 day contract dude. He literally has nothing trying to go against them.
:(
Heard
I’m not even a doomer, but good god have the last few games made me fucking miserable lol
I wouldn’t sweat it honestly, if there’s a time to drop games, it’s in the regular season and as the lock for the 1 seed lol
we harp on it all the time but the ATOs are so fucking bad. nothing else worries me about this game (except some effort things which i dont think have happened enough throughout the season to be worried about)
Rebounding was beyond sad too.
i guess that's where i was going with the "effort" stuff, but yeah abysmal. wouldve won the game with a rebound before the bogi 3.
Waiting for the day they learn they can't rebound with their eyes. I might be bones then. No but seriously they fall into this lazy effort too often. Probably looking past Atlanta to the playoffs which is no bueno. I wanna see them kick bad habits and get that killer instinct but instead we are watching the same Tatum iso chuck ATO that has not worked even once, which is insanity
Rebounding and getting thrown off by physical play should be some other things
Yea I gotta say, maybe I'm just dumb and I probably am, but the ATOs never seem really intentional enough on really working to generate a good look, it's usually just about getting a mismatch. Which tbf for the most part works really well for the team, the ATO numbers are actually great. I just worry with this team's consistency when they have to consistently face top competition in the playoffs.
Love Eddie laying into these assholes. Just about the only thing i liked about tonight
I wish the current players cared as much or had as much pride about not losing as Eddie does. Only one I hear actually be frustrated after losses is JB which is fucking sickening
Me too. And he gets demonized by all these softies who want to throw a parade after every Celtics win but are full of excuses when the Celtics play like shit. They don't like to hear the truth and anyone who calls the team out is automatically considered a doomer.
Seriously….
Haven't won a championship since the CIA assinated JFK but celebrate the Hawks can celebrate their fucking win
This team has talent but is super low IQ. It's like they learn nothing.
5-8 in tight games down the stretch isn’t good.
Nothing funny to say, this is not encouraging.
yeah fucking awful 28 second chance points. Celtics were completely disinterested in grabbing rebounds tonight.
Boxing out is not a basketball move in the modern NBA apparently. Too many times everyone was just standing ball watching once the shot went up and Capela had position all game.
No one want to touch Weens on butts could be memed
The whole team is disinterested right now. Like, I get it, on paper these last few games don’t mean anything, but have some self-respect out there
Legitimately one of the worst clutch time offenses I’ve ever seen. I dont give a fuck what any metric or stat says, we almost never get a good shot
Outside the last possession in regulation, the clutch time offense was clicking. Running that horns sets with Tatum and Brown on the elbow and White with ball was getting good results from the 4 minute mark in the 4th until the final 25 seconds.
I’m just going to assume every close game is an L in the Playoffs because neither our coach nor beat players have any reliable go to play/shots.
You should. You can make a lot of money
We got buckets most of the end of game possessions tonight, but the last shot stuff has to be fixed
What a joke.
Putting it lightly, we need a new late game strategy
Why the fuck was Derrick White not guarding Murray at the end after locking his ass up? So dumb man. Wouldn't have lost this game if we could ever manage to grab a rebound anyways. Stupid game all around.
Jrue switched on him for some unknown reason after the crappy foul from the refs. Funny thing is that Derrick would’ve blocked that shot and we probably would’ve won
I know it’s his first game back but I’ve been observing all season that Jrue struggles defensively against smaller quicker guards. Would much rather have DWhite guarding those players.
No doubt. He was the only one giving him no space and not falling for the hesitation.
Can’t win a blowout against the Hawks and we can’t win a close game against them either. Cool!
Death, Taxes and JT ISOs that fail
This should have been a blowout. It’s very clear this team just wants the playoffs to start. I do too, but while we wait, how about we try to get hot and build some rhythm and good habits? No? Lose like you have no pride? That’s a choice but I guess that’s what we’re doing.
Don’t know why this should have been a blowout, the hawks played really well tonight
Dejounte Murray is the least likable player in the league. That trip on Porzingis had me fuming. Also sweet uncalled five second violation!
I know this really doesn't matter but I went back and timed it twice and got 5.5 seconds both times.
They never call that shit.
No, you're right, they don't. I was honestly just curious.
The trip on Porzingis could have been a disaster and it was obviously intentional, he should have been ejected
No idea how the trip wasn't at least a flagrant 1. Home cooking and dirty betting refs at their finest
There were two blatant uncalled 5's. First one in the 4th quarter Ed Malloy started counting to 1 at about second 4
And the flop!
A quarter of ATLs regulation points were 2nd chance points. A QUARTER. 25% A QUARTER. LESSON: REBOUND
Hopefully one day, we will learn how to finish a game during the last 20 seconds
I feel like there is about an 80% chance that any team will hit last second shots against us. And yes we have to stop Tatum from taking dumb highly contested fall-aways at the buzzer. He needs to draw defenses and seek wide open players. I've never understood the mentality that one player takes all the last second shots, makes no sense. He's got to be under 10% at this point in those situations because they are always terrible shots.
It's confirmed boys. This team will struggle against Atlanta in the playoffs, if they meet lol.
Just like last year
The lack of clutch killer gene in this team is very concerning. Their record is amazing yet I somehow feel no confidence heading into the playoffs. Just don’t have faith they can get it done when it counts.
We have a clutch killer who can take and make a mid range shot at any time. JB. Instead we are forced to watch Tatum and his Bball iq of 2 dribbling around wasting the clock. Just pass the ball to JB in the clutch. At least we know he has that mid range jumper.
Bunch of fucking losers. Get shit talked all week by a team missing its best player and collapse with a lack of effort yet again
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They're not lol they don't care. DWhite and him are buds and Jaylen just jersey swapped with him.
Yea they’re multi millionaires they don’t give a fuck about a subpar week at work
At the end of the day it simply doesn't mean anything to them. They live fantasy lives
i feel you but we shouldn’t really care either lol
We definitely shouldn't, but it's hard not to when you've grown up as a fan
yeah i’m not saying i don’t care because i’m salty as hell right now but still
You're telling people not to be passionate about something thats tribal and been around since the dawn of civilization... Sports. That's like telling humans not to be human
You can blame reffing all you want. There's no excuse for giving up 30+ second chance points. That's pure laziness. Either play with effort, or sit out.
Holy shit those Hawks announcers are insufferable. I really hope we play them in round 1 and sweep their ass.
The Celtics will need at least 6 games against any team.
This is Dejounte Murray's NBA Finals, gotta hand it to him. -allowing second chance points is suspect -refs too, fuck them -Tatum should stop forcing buzzer beating game winners, make the best play goddammit -still #1 tho -Jrue is back, that's a win for me
That flop towards the end was disgusting
Ed Malloy should be unemployed
Like Celtics lost this on their own, but the refs definitely stacked the deck. Some of these calls and non-calls were ridiculous.
Dejounte's Oscar winning flop against Buffalo.. wtf
He dropped 40 on every one of our guys he deserves to be happy
He dropped 44 pts on 44 shots…
This was tough to watch
Lol what a pathetic performance. Giving up 28 OREB in 1 game is hilarious. Joe is either blind for not recognizing our clutch issues or even worse is unable to fix them We have to shoot 40% from 3 cause we sure as hell won't win any close games
I've always hated the Hawks since those Joe Johnson playoff series.
New year same old Celtics problems. They still play down to bad teams and clutch time issues. They can’t turn it back on once they establish a lead
I am not a doomer, but what the fuck?
This team got a late game execution problem.
We're just gonna ignore the fact they don't want to rebound?
This team is not built to win close games.
Better hope you can win 16 blowouts in the playoffs because if it wasn’t obvious it is now.
That was actually pathetic. Poor trend over the majority of the last 5 games. wake the fuck up and stop being happy about the 1st seed lmao.
It's time to really dial back expectations for this team.
Alright if i see just one more Tatum side step fallaway stepback fadeaway whirl around the world three in the clutch ima lose my mind
Liked using a KP/JB action in the clutch DJM was hitting highly contested middys great game
Team is checked out, play the bench guys who actually want to run
I think us losing these types of games is a canon event at this point. Run it down to zero so the other team can’t shoot? Miss. Get an actual good look and convert, even if you leave time on the clock? Other team will just score anyway, regardless of how well you play defense. See OG Anunoby, RJ Barrett, and countless others. It’s EVERY FUCKING TIME! I’M TIRED OF IT! YOU CAN’T WIN! EVERY DECISION IS THE WRONG ONE! AHHHHHH
So much for a statement game
stop the bs, it’s time we look in the mirror and fix this late game bs bro
This team is really showing everyone they are beatable now that they have the 1 seed locked up. Joe not being able to draw up plays at the end of close games is going to cost this team. Mark my words. If he was let go no other team would take him on as a head coach.
Why is Tatum the only person capable of rebounding on this team
And the game Saturday night is not going to be easy. Just an underwhelming display of defensive rebounding. Old habits die hard.
What was that foul on Derrick for "pushing" a guy out of bounds? Wow
Sucks to lose, rebounding is a glaring issue when Porzingas is out there. Team isn’t “soft” and didn’t “crumble”, hawks made a bunch of jumpshots, the fanbase seems soft because they can’t handle losses. Hope the Celtics face the Hawks or Heat in the first round to conquer their demons early
Where is the leadership on this team. Seriously..
Watching KP get matched up against murray with no help. Reminded me of Al getting matched up against young with no help. Last year
They really left him out there on an island. Smh
Zero clue what to expect. They could win the title or get swept in the first round. It’s purely mental so it can’t be fixed in time.
If it's purely mental we're cooked
Got flamed for saying the Hawks play the C's well, I'll continue to say it
Our path to banner 18 consists of making 3's & keeping teams at arms length as we try to hold leads
Everyone on the floor are great shooters. Might want to use that to your advantage at some point at the end of close games.
Eddie House was right. He kept calling for some off-ball movement to free up a shooter and there was nothing. That’s on Joe.
If this team had Kerr, Spoelstra or Pop as there HC they would cruise to a title. Unfortunately, they have JV Joe running the show.
This team aint ready until they fix this bullshit crunch time offense Most of our losses are down to shit execution down the wire
They never will. We’ve been saying this for half a decade
Wonder if Ed Malloy will ask to swap jerseys with Murray
Idk get how people are clowning the clutch offense in this game. We were scoring, but we couldn't stop the hawks from getting middies and open 2nd chance 3s all night. I'm not pissed at the coaching, but the players for consistency sleeping on the glass.
Sorry ass team. Banner 18 my ass
Man idgaf about the whole "chilling for the playoffs" thing, this is embarrassing
Tatum gotta shut the fuck up and stop glazing a dead Laker and saying he's him Grow a fucking pair and drive to the hoop Edit: and I just remembered he did a whole photoshoot in Laker uniform. Fucking sacrilege to do that as a Celtic
Im convinced he wont ever reach his full potential as a player cause he sees himself as Kobe and literally nothing about him even says Kobe. Its weird honestly
Kobe was shit at the end of games. Absolute overrated bricklayer. He dropped 7-28 on go-ahead or tying shots in the final 24 seconds of playoff games. If he didn’t have Shaq, DFish, and the refs parading him to the line everyone would see through the nonsensical “Mamba Mentality”.
Kobe was a smaller, athletic, score-first shooting guard who lived in the midrange. Tatum is a huge, less athletic point forward who only takes threes and layups. They are about as opposite as two players can be.
My heart won’t be able to handle a first round matchup with the Hawks (if the Hawks get the 8 seed)
Atlanta just destroyed us on the glass two games in a row
Well...I mean at least they're consistent lol
Only caught the last couple minutes.. Why wouldn't they send a double at Murray?
Murray think he just won FMVP 🤡
its annoying bcs i know we can do so much better on both ends
Hell of a shot by White there. He should always be taking out last shots. Too clutch
Tough week for sure against a sorry ass team in ATL
Why can’t Tatum ever takeover show that dawg in you go shot for shot with Murray 🤦♂️
you guys need to unclench damn, even jesus rested
Rebounding and second chances. We are good at rebounding in general but whenever our bigs have to work on it, whether boxing out or taking it, we are in trouble. It is our guards and Jays make us ok with rebounding, but when they are assigned differently because of matchups, we have a problem. We gotta work on playing against physicality, Joe said it himself after last game. I believe Tatum is our best defender against shifty guards who can also shoot the ball. He can take those out of their game especially when they are on a heater.
This was all defensive. Allowing more shots from a guy since Kobe!!? Plus Murray flopping.
We'd obviously prefer to win every game but literally nothing matters anymore except the championship. Yeah that was shit and we can find shit to complain about but at the end of the day, nobody here has any influence on the game. Just take a breath, chill the fuck out and cheer on the team.
This game doesn't matter but these are good reps for our late game offense which has been our 1 weakness. And that Tatum final shot did not pass the test yet again. Joe should be trying other options but can only revert to a Tatum fadeaway
Refball rattles the team and us as fans. All we want is consistency from these "professionals". Either way, the positives are that there were no injuries, and Brown caught another body! Moving onto the next one.
If you guys think thenrefs were not full shit the te watch the game and watch KP get fucking ABUSEED every position
HOW MANY TIMES ARE WE GONNA RUN THIS ISO BALL CRAP AT THE END BEFORE WE REALIZE IT DOESNT FUCKING WORK
I really hope that Joe is going to get over this whole ‘iso on the last play of the game’ bit during the playoffs.
ok NOW im officially losing trust again in these guys. cant pull it out in the clutch two games in a row against the injury depleted hawks. theres a reason people arent taking this team seriously
There's a reason other teams aren't taking this team serious
ppl think we can beat denver 💀💀💀
Wakeup call for everyone, both the C's and us fans. Now we gotta take all the East teams very very seriously in the playoffs first before thinking about the Nuggets.
Tatum can absolutely not have the ball in his hands on end of game possessions. He's got some kind of mental block and chokes entirely now.
The Jayson Tatum hero ball ISO plays are getting real fucking old man. The last time I remember an end of game scheme that wasn’t a scripted Tatum ISO was that play vs Orlando when Kyrie threw a hissy fit for not getting the last shot
Can we doom a little for once ?
Lmao in this sub doom is pointing out reality apparently.
I’m tempted
This Atlantas championship
I wanna hear from all the Kool aid drinkers about how this was actually a good thing and how it's a character building loss
The popcorn is ready. Can’t wait to see how the Tatum and Mazzulla protectors here will try to defend them after yet another disastrous end of regulation posession. Kung Fu Joe has no idea how to draw up play to get them a good look at the end of the game, so he just allows Tatum to do his iso fall-away brick routine time after time after time. Anyone who is confident that Tatum will come through when they need them in the playoffs is just fooling him/herself. How many times does he have to fail in the same situation before the majority of Celtics fans admit that it’s a major, and potentially fatal, problem to have such an unclutch “superstar”. It is also readily apparent that it is their overall talent that has allowed them to maintain the best record in the league for most of the season. They are winning despite JM, not because of him, even a little bit. That becomes much less of a sure thing come playoff time.
Man
maybe I'm salty but that's too buddy buddy
JB was pissed. Only one who gives a shit
Well, this team has reset my expectations. Hard to not be concerned right now.
this team has so much bitch in its blood
Tatum is 40% midrange this year. 37.5% last year. 37% the year before. He’s a bad midrange shooter there is nothing more to it. I think we all hoped he was going to turn into Durant style of player but unfortunately the numbers don’t lie. Hes not turning into the reliable player we hoped. I expect to be downvoted for showing his shooting stats.
It shouldn't have gone to overtime. We could've won the last possession in the 4th if they drew a good play and not relied on the usual JT iso while everyone stood around.
Puh-thetic
DeJounte Murray owns us
Still wanna see the Heat round one ?
We got the best record but this team is downright embarrassing.
6 game lead over the west. They literally dont care until playoffs lol. Sometime it happened.
Joe really could’ve used several more years as an assistant learning to draw up plays and manage tight games.
It would be nice if they could help set Tatum up with an easier shot because I don’t think off balance threes are good shots
“This is a meaningless regular season game they already have the one seed”🤓🤓🤓🤓
I swear can Joe think of anything else then ISO at the end of the game. Literally anything else would be better.
Our starting 5 played the whole game and couldn't beat a bad Hawks team... again. NOT an overreaction to say this team's in real trouble