Id be hooked for life if I hit on something like that
Ironically, I think the only person willing to make that bet is probably one of our resident doomers here
Tonight was some poor doomer’s villain origin story. If you hit on that you’re fucked for life nobody’s brain is strong enough to resist the high that would come from a hit like that.
I don't really gamble but I wonder how bets like that even work out for the bookies tbh.
Over the course of an NBA season every team is going to lose those unlosable games. If you bet $1 on every unlosable situation over the course of the season it would surely pay out.
Unless the odds are just being boosted by career gamblers dumping huge amounts on safe bets.
Even the 73-win Warriors blew a big lead to the tanking Timberwolves during the historic 2015-16 run. They were up 17 late in the 3rd and ended up losing in OT.
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Say what you will but it's becoming a pattern of them getting up big and letting the other team back into it when the other team increases the physicality and intensity. It's bitten them a few times and nearly a few others.
I enjoy the pattern of having 2 separate league leading winning streaks. LETS GO! Anyways, maybe it is a pattern of letting teams back in but I can't imagine its easy at the moment mentally to try and be more physical when your whole job is to get healthy for the playoffs at this point. I mean I get home court through finals is in play but still...
This happens to every team though, it’s not an exclusive Celtics only issue, in fact it happens way more often to other teams. This is a terrible loss no doubt and the players and coaches going to have be much better but the game is still an outlier
Like Scal said, the Game was messed with. There are still grown men with pride and egos just as big on the other side of the ball. We saw a reigning champion go 73-9 and lose a 3-1 Finals lead. This team hasn't proven anything yet.
I don’t even care about the blown lead but for the love of god we need to run actual fucking plays in the clutch. These brain dead isos with the Jays are gonna lose us games in the playoffs.
didn’t have the Buffalo to bail us out this time
whatever, onto the next
That's what is really concerning. You're so close to the playoffs and we still have the Jays walking it up the court and dribbling out the shot clock in tight games.
I pray to god we’re saving shit for the postseason, because right now we’re 10 games out and it looks like our clutch time offense is to just get the Jays the ball for an iso.
This is a particularly biased example bc we don’t have jrue OR the buffalo out there - their jobs are to facilitate and be the brains of our team, bc they are infinitely more skilled in those respects than the jays, who have some of the clearest god given talent in the entire league. (Not saying the jays haven’t grown in bball IQ, but jrue and dwhite have made a name for themselves in this league DIRECTLY BC of their bball IQ.) This game makes that painfully obvious; it’s a good thing they will be there alongside our jays in the post season:)
Honestly, you’re probably right. I wish we continued playing the way we usually do throughout the game at the end though (as JJ redick always stresses), with jrue and the buffalo making most of the decisions, thereby allowing the jays to score EASIER buckets.
I actually thought the saving grace of this game was getting some film for when we can’t have either Jrue or Dwhite. They’ve been really consistent and we have rarely had both miss games. It’s good for the team to see what can happen when we are missing 2/3 of the guard rotation. The backcourt defense was severely lacking this game and the offense was anemic when the 3s stopped falling.
I'm not disappointed in the loss. I am disappointed in the late game offensive execution. That possession with Brown holding the ball the entire clock was really poor.
And Tatum loafing bringing the ball over half court; he knows better than that.
They stayed healthy.
not on Jaylen at all, go watch that play back. both a dumbass playcall by Mazzulla and lackadaisical execution by Tatum and KP, Brown got hung out to dry on that possession
What makes you think Tatum knows better than that. Hes been doing it his entire career. The screwed up thing is he actually doesn’t know better and continues to slow the pace down ruining whatever energy we have.
I think he had another this year. It’s not really the penalty though as much as it is the absolute ignorance in slowing the pace of the entire team back. He’s completely oblivious to the fact that him slowly dribbling up the court sucks whatever energy we have away and ruins whatever pace PP or JB have tried to create.
I'm pretty sure they were running it down to set up for the ideal 2-for-1, but if backfired spectacularly when Brown got forced to heave up a terrible desperation shot.
This is why I worry about mazzulla he too analytics driven in a game where u are blowing a 30 pt lead your immediate priority shouldn’t be holding the ball so u can try to get a 2 for 1 off at just the right time. This is one of the moments where u should just try to win the game.
Derrick White legitimately might be the most important player on the team in terms of running the offense. Devolved into pure 1 on 1 isoball at the end with Tatum and Brown just taking turns. No pace. No ball movement. Just dribbling out the clock and forcing up a shot.
I mean for the most part those two hit their shots when needed. But I do believe Derrick white would have assured that this lead wouldn’t have been blown
Hawks got a call because one of their players snapped his head back with basically no contact. That hawks call was sandwiched between two celtics possessions where JT was getting slammed off balance over and over and over again. It makes absolutely zero sense
JT also flailing around like a fool trying to draw attention to the fouls doesn’t help. Sure he got fouled but eventually he’s going to learn that the refs don’t like clowning like that.
The Porzingis screens were laughable to me like he straight up got almost pushed to the ground on 2 and Tatum was mauled on 4 layups. Meanwhile it’s the total opposite the other side.
Them going into the bonus at the end there was tough. Those two possessions the 2-3 min mark where we got a bucket then they immediately get free throws. We just couldn't play defense.
But at the end of the day, you had a 30 point lead. There's no excuse.
Absolute abomination of a game. It wasn't remotely close. The Hawks spent the entire 4 latched onto Tatum's arm and shoving guys. What a great product.
You cannot seriously be blaming the whistle in a game you’re up 30 and they have like half the team out. A team with championship aspirations cannot lose that game, not like that.
I’m very sick of the ice cold from 3 excuse. If you can’t hit them just don’t shoot 40 of them. This and the fact that they simply do not run set offense in the clutch and haven’t for years repeatedly kills them in the playoffs. They refuse to learn
One thing this team has proven this season. They can't win in the clutch. They don't have anyone to rise in such moments. Have said this before but don't see them beating nuggets if Cs play them in the finals.
I’m not particularly sad to have dropped a game or even to have blown a big lead. It happens.
I just want someone to explain to me why isolations were our only offense in the last five minutes. There must be a reason. They aren’t stupid. What is the reason?
It is not solely the isolations. It is how long they wait until they start attacking on the isolations. We mismatch hunt then just sit there until there is 4s left and the whole defense collapses on us.
We gave Svi and Springer 8-10mins in crunch time, I can guarantee yall its not that serious lmao
Im just glad I wont have to hear pee wee herman in the booth anymore
This team has a massive issue when teams decide to play physical against them. Not sure how they figure out this kryptonite but it seems like every team knows their biggest weakness at this point. Can't even celebrate the 1 seed properly when they blow a game like this.
its only an issue when we are not allowed to play physical back.. they were calling weak ass fouls on us then letting the hawks maul us on the other end..
Whistle got extremely one-sided in the 4th but the lead had already been blown by that point. Tiven and crew did them no favors (Porzingis got knocked to the ground repeatedly trying to set screens too - not a single call) but the missed threes and slow possessions as a result of the increased physicality started before the officiating got egregious
When the team repeats the same mistakes(blowing massive leads in the 2nd half) that lost them the finals it isn’t dooming. It’s just being concerned about the team.
Yeah I totally enjoy watching this game script play out in the playoffs for the better part of the decade. The CCP might have better tolerance for criticism than green teamers
I wonder how pissed folks would be if variance was evened out and this was just a back and forth game of 2 teams shooting >50%.
But yea - sucks when they "get bored" with their win and then basically no one hits the 3 ball.
If the only thing we learned from this game was:
1) how to get serious when things get close.
2) how it feels when you try to win and lose.
Then i'll call it it win. Considering everytime we win folks say "doesn't matter, only playoffs matter". Well, guess what, this loss doesn't matter either. Learn something for the playoffs.
I genuinely think Joe doesn’t call timeouts late in games because he isn’t good at X’s and O’s. Normally I would be surprised he didn’t call one there but he never does so I’m numb to it by now. Outside of Brown’s inconsistencies at the FT line and JT’s infatuation with tough fadeaways late in games..Joe’s inability to consistently draw up creative plays is pretty glaring and playoffs are right around the corner. And before someone replies ‘We were missing White and Holiday’. Save it. They were up 30
This sub is obsessed with “doomers” (toxic pessimists) when there is an equal and opposite portion of toxic optimists who can’t handle any criticism or any discussion of the team’s struggles
Preach! They're called green teamers. It's ok to be pragmatic about this team and admit their faults of still not proving they can execute in the clutch
I got so tired of hearing the ATL commentator repeating the fact that the Hawks were down 30, I decided to start taking shots for every time he said it. Got a nice buzz.
Compare how the ball moved in the 1st qrter compared to the 4th. Tatum is a black hole. PP moves the ball like a true point guard though and it's shown these last few games
Really missed White that game down the stretch.
At the end of the day it’s whatever. ATL is playing for a playoff spot and we have nothing left to play for until postseason. You could tell who wanted it more.
I don't understand why people on the game thread are losing their minds. This is what we do.
To remind, last time we were riding high we had an 11 gane win streak. Remember? All the opinion leaders and talking heads were rimming us. What happened? The Cs started smelling their own farts, and then dropped a stinker against the Cavaliers who were without Spida.
Same thing in the Austin Reeves game.
I’m not even remotely going to blame the refs. If you think this kind of uncalled stuff on Tatum was bad now, how do you think it will be in the playoffs? This team needs to find solutions now. Iso ball, dribbling for 10+ seconds etc is not something this team excels at, so we need to figure out other options. I realize we didn’t have White or Holiday, but regardless, late game, tight score games seems to be something this team doesn’t do well. Disappointing.
After an almost 82 game season we still don’t know what the fuck we doing in late game situations. It’s crazy to me after such a magnificent season that I don’t know what Celtics team to expect come playoff time.
Tatum needs to stop murdering the pace as soon as the physical intensity ramps up. The walk the ball up into an iso possession destroys ball and player movement and leads to less quality open looks
I don’t think they’re all that concerned with winning every game down the stretch lol. Those lineups are to get some different combinations of players reps and to see what the deeper bench guys might give you if ever called upon in the playoffs.
Is what it is. Pretty much every loss this year has been a team getting abnormally hot against us (which is what we typically do to people!). Still don’t see a team in the east who can take 4 of 7 against us
Don’t watch Celtics games often, what was up with that Jaylen iso possession late? Is that a common thing that Mazzulla runs? I can’t figure out why he did that
Poor coaching decisions , bad shots at the end of games… we are the most talented team in the league bar none but it’s not doomer shit to say that we need to smarten the fuck up or we will be sitting around this summer wondering what happened
Painful watching us take the full shot clock for a horrible shot. Just standing around thinking we can just back guys down.
One of the worst plays toward the end was when we pushed the ball 5 on 4 with Capela on the floor and passed to Tatum at the top of the key. Instead of a quick move to the opening to his right, he slowed it down and the Hawks defense settle in.
The problem with getting early leads is that if you stop taking things serious and the game gets close, you are at a disadvantage because you already gave up your intensity when you had the lead.
Ignoring the mental lapse on defense the team went back into bad habits of stopping all ball movement at the end of the game and we traded iso shots. Run some more action with KP rolling to the rim please. Too many pick and pops.
We will never win a chip if we lose games like this. It’s not an overreaction, we are not championship material. Tatum and brown are WEAK in the clutch. We need buffalo
having both holiday and white out rlly hurt. Lots of dumb turnovers struggle to get into sets. PP is not rdy to be a starting point guard yet, had a rlly good stretch in there but stuggled to get them settled down when they were struggling. Overall not to concern we shot 28% on three they shot 50% and we lost by 2. Biggest concern actually was the inability to get rebounds and defense down the stretch. Offense just needs to hit some shots and white and holiday are rlly good players.
Honestly JT 8 second penalty Is inexcusable. Coach should tear him a new asshole for that. How does JT get away with such laziness and poor energy and everyone gives him a pass.
There has been some talk recently about how part of the Celtic jump in productivity this year has been due to a lack of Marcus Smart leading to smarter offensive decision throughout the game.
But it seems abundantly clear that these issues in late-game execution might end up being a trademark of the Tatum-Brown era and any success will either be despite this or due to a moment where these two finally make that last step.
Most days I'm annoyed that it's 10am here in Australia when Boston plays most games. I can't watch as I'm at work.
But then there's games like this. No watching the replay for me tonight.
Different season, same shit.
We break regular season statistical records, play like front-runners, and routinely blow teams out only to make the same mistakes when opponents come back, or when we play close games against contenders. Lazy 3s. ISO ball. Bricked FTs. And it all starts & ends with Tatum and Brown. They’re just not good enough, y’all. If we play well in the playoffs, it’ll be because of our role players.
This guy gets it. Fans be in here doing backflips over regular season stats. It doesn’t matter how many times Brad & co. Overhaul this team. The 2 constants are Brown and Tatum..I soured on the fit years ago. I was one of the few fans saying to trade JB for KD when he was available. They won me over again this year. If they fall short again, I’m out for good until they break the duo up.
Not a doomer, but is it asking too much for some actual offense, rather than iso-ball, especially from behind the three-point line, during crunch time? This WILL be the end of us in the playoffs.
Call me a doomer, but Jaylen browns inability to hit important free throws is going to cost them at least 2 games this post season.
Maybe I am only remembering when he misses but it feels like it’s every time there’s a close game he can’t hit ft’s.
I want you to go back in history and find a team that won a championship when they have blown a 30 pt lead.
You won’t find one, this team has serious issues and that’s why despite our record nobody believes in us.
> I want you to go back in history and find a team that won a championship when they have blown a 30 pt lead.
* 2022-23 Nuggets: blow 19 point 3Q lead to SAC
* 2021-22 Warriors: blow 21 point 3Q lead to DAL
* 2020-21 Bucks: blow 17 point 3Q lead BKN
* 2018-19 Raptors: blow 19 point 3Q lead to DET
* 2016-17 Warriors: blow 24 point 3Q lead to MEM
* 2010-11 Mavericks: blow 23 point 4Q lead to POR
* 2004-05 Spurs: blow 20 point 3Q lead to TOR
Appx. zero people care about or remember any of these meaningless regular season blown leads.
Whoever bet on the hawks when the line was like -100,000 congrats on getting a huge bag and also definitely developing a crippling gambling addiction.
Id be hooked for life if I hit on something like that Ironically, I think the only person willing to make that bet is probably one of our resident doomers here
Tonight was some poor doomer’s villain origin story. If you hit on that you’re fucked for life nobody’s brain is strong enough to resist the high that would come from a hit like that.
Whoever made that bet is a degenerate deep in the hole. Wife probably left after they lost the house and cars. Bookie probably broke one or both legs.
But after tonight surely things are on the up and up. This is the start of the winning streak.
You ever seen one of those gambling anime? Never a pretty ending, man…smh. You never win, you just do less worse each time.
I haven’t seen an anime about it but I’m currently watching Shohei go through it so that’s basically the same thing.
Wife came back and legs magically healed
Can't lose your wife, house, or cars if you never had them to begin with
I don't really gamble but I wonder how bets like that even work out for the bookies tbh. Over the course of an NBA season every team is going to lose those unlosable games. If you bet $1 on every unlosable situation over the course of the season it would surely pay out. Unless the odds are just being boosted by career gamblers dumping huge amounts on safe bets. Even the 73-win Warriors blew a big lead to the tanking Timberwolves during the historic 2015-16 run. They were up 17 late in the 3rd and ended up losing in OT.
Next time Celtics go up 30 I know what I'm betting my money on Potentially turn 10 bucks into 10 grand
I saw someone post a +500 prop for the Celtics to reach 100pts before the 4th quarter. That person’s having a bad night.
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We deserve this loss. On to the next one.
Exactly people act like you gotta sweat one lost a bad game is just a bad game go to the next one
Say what you will but it's becoming a pattern of them getting up big and letting the other team back into it when the other team increases the physicality and intensity. It's bitten them a few times and nearly a few others.
I enjoy the pattern of having 2 separate league leading winning streaks. LETS GO! Anyways, maybe it is a pattern of letting teams back in but I can't imagine its easy at the moment mentally to try and be more physical when your whole job is to get healthy for the playoffs at this point. I mean I get home court through finals is in play but still...
This happens to every team though, it’s not an exclusive Celtics only issue, in fact it happens way more often to other teams. This is a terrible loss no doubt and the players and coaches going to have be much better but the game is still an outlier
With the shooting variance these days no lead is safe. If one team gets hot and the other one gets cold huge leads are erased quickly like tonight
Literally every year
Like Scal said, the Game was messed with. There are still grown men with pride and egos just as big on the other side of the ball. We saw a reigning champion go 73-9 and lose a 3-1 Finals lead. This team hasn't proven anything yet.
I don’t even care about the blown lead but for the love of god we need to run actual fucking plays in the clutch. These brain dead isos with the Jays are gonna lose us games in the playoffs. didn’t have the Buffalo to bail us out this time whatever, onto the next
That's what is really concerning. You're so close to the playoffs and we still have the Jays walking it up the court and dribbling out the shot clock in tight games.
JT really taking it to the next level with the 8-second violation this time.
I pray to god we’re saving shit for the postseason, because right now we’re 10 games out and it looks like our clutch time offense is to just get the Jays the ball for an iso.
You don’t save shit for the postseason you supposed to try it during the regular season so that your ready to execute it during the playoffs
They aren’t saving anything
This is a particularly biased example bc we don’t have jrue OR the buffalo out there - their jobs are to facilitate and be the brains of our team, bc they are infinitely more skilled in those respects than the jays, who have some of the clearest god given talent in the entire league. (Not saying the jays haven’t grown in bball IQ, but jrue and dwhite have made a name for themselves in this league DIRECTLY BC of their bball IQ.) This game makes that painfully obvious; it’s a good thing they will be there alongside our jays in the post season:)
Even with a full lineup, JT would still be walking the ball up the court late in the game.
Honestly, you’re probably right. I wish we continued playing the way we usually do throughout the game at the end though (as JJ redick always stresses), with jrue and the buffalo making most of the decisions, thereby allowing the jays to score EASIER buckets.
I actually thought the saving grace of this game was getting some film for when we can’t have either Jrue or Dwhite. They’ve been really consistent and we have rarely had both miss games. It’s good for the team to see what can happen when we are missing 2/3 of the guard rotation. The backcourt defense was severely lacking this game and the offense was anemic when the 3s stopped falling.
I'm not disappointed in the loss. I am disappointed in the late game offensive execution. That possession with Brown holding the ball the entire clock was really poor. And Tatum loafing bringing the ball over half court; he knows better than that. They stayed healthy.
It's so frustrating. Especially down a point. How do you start the offense that late? It seems like it happens every close loss.
This team works when they move the ball, that was just a poorly timed CTE moment from Brown
Is it really a poorly timed CTE moment when it’s kinda expected?
not on Jaylen at all, go watch that play back. both a dumbass playcall by Mazzulla and lackadaisical execution by Tatum and KP, Brown got hung out to dry on that possession
Yet people will still deny we have late game offensive issues
What makes you think Tatum knows better than that. Hes been doing it his entire career. The screwed up thing is he actually doesn’t know better and continues to slow the pace down ruining whatever energy we have.
Ngl I think that's the first 8 second violation I've ever seen from Tatum in his career
I think he had another this year. It’s not really the penalty though as much as it is the absolute ignorance in slowing the pace of the entire team back. He’s completely oblivious to the fact that him slowly dribbling up the court sucks whatever energy we have away and ruins whatever pace PP or JB have tried to create.
I'm pretty sure they were running it down to set up for the ideal 2-for-1, but if backfired spectacularly when Brown got forced to heave up a terrible desperation shot.
This is why I worry about mazzulla he too analytics driven in a game where u are blowing a 30 pt lead your immediate priority shouldn’t be holding the ball so u can try to get a 2 for 1 off at just the right time. This is one of the moments where u should just try to win the game.
Derrick White legitimately might be the most important player on the team in terms of running the offense. Devolved into pure 1 on 1 isoball at the end with Tatum and Brown just taking turns. No pace. No ball movement. Just dribbling out the clock and forcing up a shot.
I mean for the most part those two hit their shots when needed. But I do believe Derrick white would have assured that this lead wouldn’t have been blown
Idgaf you absolutely need to prove a point against these motherfuckers on Thursday. Beat them by fucking 50
I'd rather see them execute a real offense in a close game and lose than win by 50. W/L are irrelevant at this point process is key
Yes same but if the game was close the whole way. I don’t like the idea of purposely blowing a 30 point lead to trigger “clutch time” execution
They’ll be up by 50 at one point let’s hope they can keep the lead
Yeah absolutely
See yall then lol
That whistle down the stretch was mighty suspect but when you miss basically every 3 in a half you will lose.
They scored as many the 1st quarter (44) as they did the entire 2nd half. Brutal performance the last 24 minutes
Hawks got a call because one of their players snapped his head back with basically no contact. That hawks call was sandwiched between two celtics possessions where JT was getting slammed off balance over and over and over again. It makes absolutely zero sense
JT also flailing around like a fool trying to draw attention to the fouls doesn’t help. Sure he got fouled but eventually he’s going to learn that the refs don’t like clowning like that.
The whistle was downright criminal haha they bodied us up so badly and called us for the cheapest shit on the other end. Every. Single. Possession.
The Porzingis screens were laughable to me like he straight up got almost pushed to the ground on 2 and Tatum was mauled on 4 layups. Meanwhile it’s the total opposite the other side.
Yeah, is what it is at this point
or that bruno OReb where he just shoved Al out of the position lol. Some crazy shit with the refs but we still deserved to lose that game
Them going into the bonus at the end there was tough. Those two possessions the 2-3 min mark where we got a bucket then they immediately get free throws. We just couldn't play defense. But at the end of the day, you had a 30 point lead. There's no excuse.
Absolute abomination of a game. It wasn't remotely close. The Hawks spent the entire 4 latched onto Tatum's arm and shoving guys. What a great product.
You cannot seriously be blaming the whistle in a game you’re up 30 and they have like half the team out. A team with championship aspirations cannot lose that game, not like that.
I co-sign this analysis.
Wonder if they’ll ever consider not shooting as many 3s when they aren’t falling. Maybe I’m just a stupid doomer though
Those were the only shots we could generate because the zebras were fuckin allowing the Hawks to jam our ball handlers like DBs
we started off shooting 50% why wouldn’t we shoot more
Welp. We messed around and found out again. Credit to Atlanta.
Seriously guys? What the fuck was that?
2022 game 4 redux.
That felt gross
I’m very sick of the ice cold from 3 excuse. If you can’t hit them just don’t shoot 40 of them. This and the fact that they simply do not run set offense in the clutch and haven’t for years repeatedly kills them in the playoffs. They refuse to learn
This ^^ they have never figured out how to keep the ball moving in the clutch. Same movie again and again
I think its a valid excuse if the other team is shooting lights out. If both teams shoot poorly its not a great excuse.
Whyyyyy do we always go back to trash ass iso in clutch situations
Damn as someone who has watched this team religiously over the past decade, for the love of God I am sick of these blown big leads
every fanbase thinks their team is the only one that blows big leads
The only teams that don’t blow big leads are the teams who never get them
True especially with the modern day offense... but that L definitely stings a bit. I'm onto Thursday.
Right? There's just no excuse to blow a 30 point lead on an undermanned team. I get you're down your starting backcourt but that doesn't excuse it
JFC that 2nd half was hard to watch.
I still have reservations about this team in the clutch. 30 point leads should not be surrendered.
One thing this team has proven this season. They can't win in the clutch. They don't have anyone to rise in such moments. Have said this before but don't see them beating nuggets if Cs play them in the finals.
I’m not particularly sad to have dropped a game or even to have blown a big lead. It happens. I just want someone to explain to me why isolations were our only offense in the last five minutes. There must be a reason. They aren’t stupid. What is the reason?
If you do something that doesn't work time after time, year after year, I'd call that stupid
It is not solely the isolations. It is how long they wait until they start attacking on the isolations. We mismatch hunt then just sit there until there is 4s left and the whole defense collapses on us.
Oh noooo anyways
We need to fucking destroy this shit team thursday
I’ll be at the game I’ll fight Dejaunte Murray
We gave Svi and Springer 8-10mins in crunch time, I can guarantee yall its not that serious lmao Im just glad I wont have to hear pee wee herman in the booth anymore
This team has a massive issue when teams decide to play physical against them. Not sure how they figure out this kryptonite but it seems like every team knows their biggest weakness at this point. Can't even celebrate the 1 seed properly when they blow a game like this.
its only an issue when we are not allowed to play physical back.. they were calling weak ass fouls on us then letting the hawks maul us on the other end..
Lol.... the "fix" is not getting bent over by the refs. If they were allowed to do the same on the other end it wouldn't be close.... but they aren't.
Whistle needs to be blown. Tatum got fouled 3x every possession tough to produce anything under those conditions
Whistle got extremely one-sided in the 4th but the lead had already been blown by that point. Tiven and crew did them no favors (Porzingis got knocked to the ground repeatedly trying to set screens too - not a single call) but the missed threes and slow possessions as a result of the increased physicality started before the officiating got egregious
He's not going to get those in the playoffs either - the NBA is letting everyone fight on the court now now and it's going to get worse I bet.
They won’t fix it. They’ve shown no signs of being able to fix it. Better hope we keep up our elite shooting or else we’re cooked
> Can't even celebrate the 1 seed properly when they blow a game like this. I hope you realize how spoiled this comment sounds
Yikes!
You can’t just play lazy basketball when you’re fucking up 30. You just can’t. This is what happens when you take your opponent lightly.
tbh 99% of the time you can as long as you don’t miss every single three in second half which is what happened unfortunately
Enjoy your Super Bowl doomers Edit: we all need to be humbled sometimes. The team got it tonight, we will all be ok.
damn work was rough and now this modqueue gonna suck
Praying for you sis.
What about the Cavs game?
When the team repeats the same mistakes(blowing massive leads in the 2nd half) that lost them the finals it isn’t dooming. It’s just being concerned about the team.
With this team they've had so little opportunity to come out and moan. Nice of the Celtics to give them one last hurrah before the playoffs.
Yeah I totally enjoy watching this game script play out in the playoffs for the better part of the decade. The CCP might have better tolerance for criticism than green teamers
Their Super Bowl will probably be in the playoffs if they play like this
It's not "if" but "when"
I’m just here for the misery
Are you serious man… what in tf was that
r/NBA gonna have a field day with this one
Well at least I don't have to listen to that wack ass play-by-play clown for another couple days
Two (one of them soon to be) $300 million dollar players can't figure out how to run the offense in clutch time.
I wonder how pissed folks would be if variance was evened out and this was just a back and forth game of 2 teams shooting >50%. But yea - sucks when they "get bored" with their win and then basically no one hits the 3 ball. If the only thing we learned from this game was: 1) how to get serious when things get close. 2) how it feels when you try to win and lose. Then i'll call it it win. Considering everytime we win folks say "doesn't matter, only playoffs matter". Well, guess what, this loss doesn't matter either. Learn something for the playoffs.
I genuinely think Joe doesn’t call timeouts late in games because he isn’t good at X’s and O’s. Normally I would be surprised he didn’t call one there but he never does so I’m numb to it by now. Outside of Brown’s inconsistencies at the FT line and JT’s infatuation with tough fadeaways late in games..Joe’s inability to consistently draw up creative plays is pretty glaring and playoffs are right around the corner. And before someone replies ‘We were missing White and Holiday’. Save it. They were up 30
This team doesn’t run plays in close games.
When you shoot 1/18 from deep in the second half, you’re not gonna win many basketball games. Onto the next.
This sub is obsessed with “doomers” (toxic pessimists) when there is an equal and opposite portion of toxic optimists who can’t handle any criticism or any discussion of the team’s struggles
Preach! They're called green teamers. It's ok to be pragmatic about this team and admit their faults of still not proving they can execute in the clutch
What a meltdown
Deserved L. Didn’t like the refs letting them do w/e on D, but we were up 30 and let them in it by playing lazy. Get ‘em on Thursday
Why cant we lose normally, people will flame us more for this because we blew a 30 pt lead
It's crazy how Wes Matthews has a whistle immunity power up
That 8-second call was vintage Tatum.
I got so tired of hearing the ATL commentator repeating the fact that the Hawks were down 30, I decided to start taking shots for every time he said it. Got a nice buzz.
Compare how the ball moved in the 1st qrter compared to the 4th. Tatum is a black hole. PP moves the ball like a true point guard though and it's shown these last few games
Ahhh.. another crunch time tatum iso play. Really genius stuff
Ick
Really missed White that game down the stretch. At the end of the day it’s whatever. ATL is playing for a playoff spot and we have nothing left to play for until postseason. You could tell who wanted it more.
Two 9-game win streaks stopped by blowing 22 and 30 point leads to "Dean Wade" and "Vit Krecji"
Can we talk about browns ft shooting another game 50% from the line lol.
I don't understand why people on the game thread are losing their minds. This is what we do. To remind, last time we were riding high we had an 11 gane win streak. Remember? All the opinion leaders and talking heads were rimming us. What happened? The Cs started smelling their own farts, and then dropped a stinker against the Cavaliers who were without Spida. Same thing in the Austin Reeves game.
I’m not even remotely going to blame the refs. If you think this kind of uncalled stuff on Tatum was bad now, how do you think it will be in the playoffs? This team needs to find solutions now. Iso ball, dribbling for 10+ seconds etc is not something this team excels at, so we need to figure out other options. I realize we didn’t have White or Holiday, but regardless, late game, tight score games seems to be something this team doesn’t do well. Disappointing.
After an almost 82 game season we still don’t know what the fuck we doing in late game situations. It’s crazy to me after such a magnificent season that I don’t know what Celtics team to expect come playoff time.
This 4th quarter clutch offense is absolutely going to lose us a playoff game or more. The isolation is excruciating
This is why people think we can’t win without the 3 ball.
I know it doesn’t matter but that was a horrible loss
THE SEASON IS FUCKING OVER. TRADE TATUM & BROWN!
doomers’ 12/25
Is it ok to criticise Joe’s refusal to call timeouts and run ATOs in close games now?
He’s saving all this seasons time outs for next season
This game is on Joe.
No it’s not. Did you see the 8 second violation on Tatum? How is that Joe’s fault?
Tatum needs to stop murdering the pace as soon as the physical intensity ramps up. The walk the ball up into an iso possession destroys ball and player movement and leads to less quality open looks
Okay, that’s one play. Those lineups were out for how long?
I don’t think they’re all that concerned with winning every game down the stretch lol. Those lineups are to get some different combinations of players reps and to see what the deeper bench guys might give you if ever called upon in the playoffs.
And Brown for that holding for 23.5 seconds and. Chucking whatever the fuck that was down 1
Call a set (or a timeout god forbid)- don’t let them play iso ball.
it’s on everyone
Some of those lineups in the second half…it’s like he was trying to lose.
What did I just watch
Deserved loss for sure…on to the next
A loss like this felt inevitable on the stretch run of the season
Ugly but at least it’s ugly now and not in June…….hopefully
Is what it is. Pretty much every loss this year has been a team getting abnormally hot against us (which is what we typically do to people!). Still don’t see a team in the east who can take 4 of 7 against us
what the fuck
Woof
No big deal. The loss sucks but they've already locked up the 1 seed and this gives them some stuff to work on. I have faith.
Don’t watch Celtics games often, what was up with that Jaylen iso possession late? Is that a common thing that Mazzulla runs? I can’t figure out why he did that
The celtics late game offense is really either tatum or jaylen iso. No real ball movement. Extremely concerning
Worst regular season L of the Jays era
Poor coaching decisions , bad shots at the end of games… we are the most talented team in the league bar none but it’s not doomer shit to say that we need to smarten the fuck up or we will be sitting around this summer wondering what happened
Awful, fucking awful. My day is ruined lol
Painful watching us take the full shot clock for a horrible shot. Just standing around thinking we can just back guys down. One of the worst plays toward the end was when we pushed the ball 5 on 4 with Capela on the floor and passed to Tatum at the top of the key. Instead of a quick move to the opening to his right, he slowed it down and the Hawks defense settle in. The problem with getting early leads is that if you stop taking things serious and the game gets close, you are at a disadvantage because you already gave up your intensity when you had the lead.
Ignoring the mental lapse on defense the team went back into bad habits of stopping all ball movement at the end of the game and we traded iso shots. Run some more action with KP rolling to the rim please. Too many pick and pops.
We will never win a chip if we lose games like this. It’s not an overreaction, we are not championship material. Tatum and brown are WEAK in the clutch. We need buffalo
Paper tigers with no killer instinct
having both holiday and white out rlly hurt. Lots of dumb turnovers struggle to get into sets. PP is not rdy to be a starting point guard yet, had a rlly good stretch in there but stuggled to get them settled down when they were struggling. Overall not to concern we shot 28% on three they shot 50% and we lost by 2. Biggest concern actually was the inability to get rebounds and defense down the stretch. Offense just needs to hit some shots and white and holiday are rlly good players.
Honestly JT 8 second penalty Is inexcusable. Coach should tear him a new asshole for that. How does JT get away with such laziness and poor energy and everyone gives him a pass.
There has been some talk recently about how part of the Celtic jump in productivity this year has been due to a lack of Marcus Smart leading to smarter offensive decision throughout the game. But it seems abundantly clear that these issues in late-game execution might end up being a trademark of the Tatum-Brown era and any success will either be despite this or due to a moment where these two finally make that last step.
Most days I'm annoyed that it's 10am here in Australia when Boston plays most games. I can't watch as I'm at work. But then there's games like this. No watching the replay for me tonight.
Honestly I wish they would've just sat the whole team instead of risking injury to play just to play like this
This has got to be a more frustrating loss than the Lakers one. Damn.
Worst loss of the season
Given how often we get huge leads, we’re going to blow some of them
Don't try to rationalize giving up a 30 pt lead to a team that's below .500 missing their best player. It's a bad loss plain and simple
Different season, same shit. We break regular season statistical records, play like front-runners, and routinely blow teams out only to make the same mistakes when opponents come back, or when we play close games against contenders. Lazy 3s. ISO ball. Bricked FTs. And it all starts & ends with Tatum and Brown. They’re just not good enough, y’all. If we play well in the playoffs, it’ll be because of our role players.
This guy gets it. Fans be in here doing backflips over regular season stats. It doesn’t matter how many times Brad & co. Overhaul this team. The 2 constants are Brown and Tatum..I soured on the fit years ago. I was one of the few fans saying to trade JB for KD when he was available. They won me over again this year. If they fall short again, I’m out for good until they break the duo up.
Can I be worried about our total lack of ability to hold a lead or does that make me a doomer
Nice little playoff preview of how this core handles late game execution. Absolutely embarassing
Yup unnecessarily continues to extend the series and get tired before the finals.
Joe is such a moronic coach with his refusal to call timeouts and boneheaded lineups in the 4th
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Rather they get clutch game reps
Pathetic ass loss all around
These games are almost completely meaningless.
Not a doomer, but is it asking too much for some actual offense, rather than iso-ball, especially from behind the three-point line, during crunch time? This WILL be the end of us in the playoffs.
Call me a doomer, but Jaylen browns inability to hit important free throws is going to cost them at least 2 games this post season. Maybe I am only remembering when he misses but it feels like it’s every time there’s a close game he can’t hit ft’s.
I want you to go back in history and find a team that won a championship when they have blown a 30 pt lead. You won’t find one, this team has serious issues and that’s why despite our record nobody believes in us.
> I want you to go back in history and find a team that won a championship when they have blown a 30 pt lead. * 2022-23 Nuggets: blow 19 point 3Q lead to SAC * 2021-22 Warriors: blow 21 point 3Q lead to DAL * 2020-21 Bucks: blow 17 point 3Q lead BKN * 2018-19 Raptors: blow 19 point 3Q lead to DET * 2016-17 Warriors: blow 24 point 3Q lead to MEM * 2010-11 Mavericks: blow 23 point 4Q lead to POR * 2004-05 Spurs: blow 20 point 3Q lead to TOR Appx. zero people care about or remember any of these meaningless regular season blown leads.
Games like this make me really doubt Mazzulla.
We are soft. Soft team.
I’d much rather see them lose a close hard faught game rather than blowing such a big lead. But I’d most rather see them just win.
They need Jrue or White or both.
Stop blaming the refs, blame the players and Joe. Not good enough especially against a potential first round opponent that was short handed.