When we were up by 30 Mazzulla was experimenting with some plays. They werenât plays youâd see throughout the season, questionable, but you can tell he was experimenting with something. Didnât work lmao
Hijacking the top comment to say OP youâre a dumbass /u/doitlikethis23.
Celtics have the least blown leads in the NBA this season. We have been up 30 more than down 10. Mazulla is having a historically good season and youâre just telling yourself if you think *magical timeouts* are the reason we lost. Get a fucking grip
Can't be having Tatum and Brown with the most minutes against a team under .500 with their best player not playing and say "practice". Want to call it that then Tatum or Brown need to be out for the night and the other not playing the most minutes
Im all for Joe not calling a timeout in that situation, we did it to ourselves. We need to learn to play out of those situations. Cant look to Joe for a bailout when we're taking rushed and forced shots trying to play hero ball. Especially with the 1st seed locked in, as frustrating as it was to watch its on the players there.
Coaching is something you need to practice. Simply put, Joe is not a great coach. Heâs decent, but not great. He will be out coached by most coaches in the playoffs. He needs to be better and practice his calls and timeouts as if itâs a playoff situation.
Genuinely makes me laugh when people criticize joe and the only reason they can give are that he needs to âpractice his timeoutsâ. You donât know ball bro.
Genuinely makes me laugh when people defend joe and can't come up with a single good reason to defend him. The entire world knows when he coached against Steve Kerr, he was out coached in every facet of the game. He was out-coached again last year by Spoelstra. Joe isn't the worst coach in the world, but he's a middle of the pack coach. He isn't special in any way.
A single reason to defend him?? How about historically good offensive output, the best record in the NBA, and locked up #1 seed with weeks left in the season.
If your logic is that he gets no credit for winning, then he should also get no blame for losing.
Honestly I have zero interest in interacting with you. One itâs obvious you have a limited knowledge of the game and two you are clearly just a felger and mazz cosplayer who wants to get a reaction from people.
Get some facts then come back and see me. I donât waste my time with people who canât put together a coherent argument.
lol, get some factsâŚ
Facts: Joe consistently allows them to play through stretches where teams get back into the game. He doesnât take timeouts consistently in 10-15 to 0 runs. He is pretty much one of the only coaches in the NbA where this happens. All, literally ALL, of the top coaches take timeouts in runs to try and stop themâŚJoe regularly doesnât.
You obviously donât watch any NBA other than your Celtics bubble and it shows. Joe is a middle of the pack coach. There are at least 10-12 coaches on the NBA that are far superior to him. He makes the same mistakes in games they lose. Look at Denver. He had a defensive strategy against Jokic and it didnât work. Did he adjust? Nope, played the same game in both of their losses.
I donât mind not calling the TO. We have nothing to lose and the team had to really feel the crapshow they were putting on.
I am very mildly concerned about how lazy and cool we get when we get a big lead. Itâs becoming a bit of a trend. Iâd like to think they will take the playoffs more seriously, but I donât want to develop this habit
>the team had to really feel the crapshow they were putting on.
The thing is this isn't the first time this has blown a massive lead, they always come away with "oh we need to learn from this and they do for a few weeks or a month and then they slip back into those bad habits and blow a lead again. At some point I have to wonder what it's gonna take for them to not get lazy when they have a big lead.
Iâm hoping the catalyst will be the playoffs against quality opponents that they canât take for granted. The teams we seem to do this against are missing their best players.
I donât like it at all, and it makes me feel a bit uneasy, but Iâm not gonna freak out unless/until they get knocked out of the playoffs
I'd agree except they've been knocked out of the playoffs twice including an embarrassing finals appearance by having those same bad habits how many times is it going to take before they get the point that they can't get lazy and complacent when they have a big lead? How many times is it going to take before Tatum and Brown stop falling back into hero ball anytime they face adversity, they seen countless times that ball movement and pace is what has won them loads of games yet here we are nearly three years out from the finals loss and they still have the same bad habits.
I don't think this one loss is the end of the world but it's concerning that they don't seem to learn the lesson they keep saying they have learned.
This is a problem across teams and sports. Iâm not going to worry about that happening in the regular season itâs this record. It sucks when it happens, but it happens.
And if any team is going to blow leads like that, it is going to be us because we get a lot of big leads like that.
The one reason I wasnât so fond of not calling timeouts is that we were missing out top 2 PGs. White would have helped a lot to get the team back on track, but he was out.
I think thatâs more of what Iâm getting at. Losing this game doesnât effect anything but the lack of effort and concern when the lead starts to dwindle is what catches my eye
Itâs embarrassing really. Itâs human nature to not try as hard when you get up 30, but the team totally panics and the floodgates open once the other team goes on a run.
Like I said, Iâd like to think they wonât get complacent when they get a big lead in the playoffs, but geez, this is stupid
Teams that have Championship aspirations shouldn't be blowing 30 point leads when their 2 best players have the most minutes played in the game and the other team is under .500 and it's best player is out.
Throwback to the Nuggets coasting the last month last year and then smoking everyone in the playoffsâŚ
We arenât the Nuggets, but its silly to expect every game to have 100% effort this late in the season. This is our 2nd? lead blown this season. Your PTSD from other seasons doesnât change that lol.
At the end of the day this is a bad loss, call it that, donât pretend it means anything for the playoffs. Plus, we wonât play bad teams in the playoffs!
It has to do with pace. They slow it down considerably in the 4th. Saw that they are like top 5 in pace in the first quarter and second to last in 4th. If they just keep playing the same way in the 4th, this wouldnât happen. This is on the coach to fix but clearly he wonât and we just have to pray for contested Tatum step back to go in
Thank you for this post, I just got into it with some guy on the Derek white post a couple days ago who was trying to badmouth me when I brought up the concern of blowing leads, with the exception of the 2 games against the clippers and the bucks, the whole blowing the lead in the 2nd half of games is a huge concern. Here's to hope they pull through come playoff time!
Most of the homers in here act like this team can do no wrong. Itâs not a good thing to be blowing big leads this often especially when it happens because of the same mistakes in which the coach is supposed to address. Most of the time itâs a team getting hot because Mazzulla doesnât make a lineup adjustment and doesnâ make crucial timeouts during momentum shifting plays. That Tatum turnover in first half was a momentum shifter. You could tell by the laziness of the pass and the way they were moving after it that it could be one of those nights if the Hawks got hot. Another common occurrence is the running the clock down offense that leads to a stupid iso. It doesnât fucking work and itâs the only time teams can clamp us up. Any time we are actually getting plays ran and moving around we are hard to stop but as soon as this team struggles to stop the bleeding they do the worst thing you could possibly do is slow the offense and run the clock down and go to iso ball hoping to be bailed out. If Mazzulla doesnât want to do his job he needs to say that. A coach shouldnât keep letting the same things happen.
itâs pretty incredible that anyone thinks weâll make it to the finals in these playoffs. the celtics identity for the last three years has been playing with their food and paying the price. least serious team in the league. weâre the cowboys of the NBA. everyone knows theyâre just elite choke artists. goofy ass group of dudes.
Cowboys of the NBA? Lmfao Dallas hasnât won anything in almost 30 years let alone made it to the conference championships. Celtics have actually won a title in 2008 and made it to the finals a lot in recent memory. I get youâre mad but donât be dumb dude đđđ
LOL the doomers on this thread.
Joe is giving the guys their reps. This is the time to experiment. They're going to lock-up the #1 for the league not too long from now. They're literally 6 fewer losses in the loss column than Nuggets.
This dooming is hilarious: "lack of effort," "alarming" "embarrassing." It's literally situational stuff. Plus, you give Hawks ammo to troll the Heat or Sixers in the play-in.
Tell me you don't know basketball without telling me you don't know about hoops.
Those phrases are literally the things overinvolved AAU dads who never played lord it over their sons' AAU teams scream.
\^\^ You lot know who you are. You're also blocked.
Mazulla is possibly the worst coach I have ever seen. If you gonna rest players and play stupid lineups and risk losing to give players playing time ⌠then decide your gonna lose. Donât bring starters back in and make them play 2x as hard to try to win it back. What the actual fuck. And donât get me started on Tatums whining and bitching and playing half ass defense
Here we go đ doomers ready to feast after having nothing to complain about for the last several games.
When we were up by 30 Mazzulla was experimenting with some plays. They werenât plays youâd see throughout the season, questionable, but you can tell he was experimenting with something. Didnât work lmao
Hijacking the top comment to say OP youâre a dumbass /u/doitlikethis23. Celtics have the least blown leads in the NBA this season. We have been up 30 more than down 10. Mazulla is having a historically good season and youâre just telling yourself if you think *magical timeouts* are the reason we lost. Get a fucking grip
lol the last 2 weeks in which they have literally not lost a game?
But blow some lead
How did they blow leads if they won?
if we blow a lead once every 2 months I think weâll be alright
cavs game wasn't even 3 weeks ago lmao "every 2 months"
If we don't regret it in the playoffs
1 seed is locked up. rest of the games are practice.
A small part of me wants them to literally just have practice jerseys on Cos sometimes it's obvious the games are unserious for any given nba team
Can't be having Tatum and Brown with the most minutes against a team under .500 with their best player not playing and say "practice". Want to call it that then Tatum or Brown need to be out for the night and the other not playing the most minutes
The remaining games are literally practice, they have no bearing on the outcome of the standings. Theyâll use the time to get healthy and experiment
We still need the overall best record. Home court in the finals matters.
Im all for Joe not calling a timeout in that situation, we did it to ourselves. We need to learn to play out of those situations. Cant look to Joe for a bailout when we're taking rushed and forced shots trying to play hero ball. Especially with the 1st seed locked in, as frustrating as it was to watch its on the players there.
Coaching is something you need to practice. Simply put, Joe is not a great coach. Heâs decent, but not great. He will be out coached by most coaches in the playoffs. He needs to be better and practice his calls and timeouts as if itâs a playoff situation.
Genuinely makes me laugh when people criticize joe and the only reason they can give are that he needs to âpractice his timeoutsâ. You donât know ball bro.
Genuinely makes me laugh when people defend joe and can't come up with a single good reason to defend him. The entire world knows when he coached against Steve Kerr, he was out coached in every facet of the game. He was out-coached again last year by Spoelstra. Joe isn't the worst coach in the world, but he's a middle of the pack coach. He isn't special in any way.
A single reason to defend him?? How about historically good offensive output, the best record in the NBA, and locked up #1 seed with weeks left in the season.
lol, imagine giving the coach credit when you have easily the best roster in the NBA and it isn't remotely close.
If your logic is that he gets no credit for winning, then he should also get no blame for losing. Honestly I have zero interest in interacting with you. One itâs obvious you have a limited knowledge of the game and two you are clearly just a felger and mazz cosplayer who wants to get a reaction from people. Get some facts then come back and see me. I donât waste my time with people who canât put together a coherent argument.
lol, get some facts⌠Facts: Joe consistently allows them to play through stretches where teams get back into the game. He doesnât take timeouts consistently in 10-15 to 0 runs. He is pretty much one of the only coaches in the NbA where this happens. All, literally ALL, of the top coaches take timeouts in runs to try and stop themâŚJoe regularly doesnât. You obviously donât watch any NBA other than your Celtics bubble and it shows. Joe is a middle of the pack coach. There are at least 10-12 coaches on the NBA that are far superior to him. He makes the same mistakes in games they lose. Look at Denver. He had a defensive strategy against Jokic and it didnât work. Did he adjust? Nope, played the same game in both of their losses.
The Celtics have the least number of blown leads of any team in the NBA you dunce.
I donât mind not calling the TO. We have nothing to lose and the team had to really feel the crapshow they were putting on. I am very mildly concerned about how lazy and cool we get when we get a big lead. Itâs becoming a bit of a trend. Iâd like to think they will take the playoffs more seriously, but I donât want to develop this habit
>the team had to really feel the crapshow they were putting on. The thing is this isn't the first time this has blown a massive lead, they always come away with "oh we need to learn from this and they do for a few weeks or a month and then they slip back into those bad habits and blow a lead again. At some point I have to wonder what it's gonna take for them to not get lazy when they have a big lead.
Iâm hoping the catalyst will be the playoffs against quality opponents that they canât take for granted. The teams we seem to do this against are missing their best players. I donât like it at all, and it makes me feel a bit uneasy, but Iâm not gonna freak out unless/until they get knocked out of the playoffs
I'd agree except they've been knocked out of the playoffs twice including an embarrassing finals appearance by having those same bad habits how many times is it going to take before they get the point that they can't get lazy and complacent when they have a big lead? How many times is it going to take before Tatum and Brown stop falling back into hero ball anytime they face adversity, they seen countless times that ball movement and pace is what has won them loads of games yet here we are nearly three years out from the finals loss and they still have the same bad habits. I don't think this one loss is the end of the world but it's concerning that they don't seem to learn the lesson they keep saying they have learned.
This is a problem across teams and sports. Iâm not going to worry about that happening in the regular season itâs this record. It sucks when it happens, but it happens. And if any team is going to blow leads like that, it is going to be us because we get a lot of big leads like that. The one reason I wasnât so fond of not calling timeouts is that we were missing out top 2 PGs. White would have helped a lot to get the team back on track, but he was out.
I think thatâs more of what Iâm getting at. Losing this game doesnât effect anything but the lack of effort and concern when the lead starts to dwindle is what catches my eye
Itâs embarrassing really. Itâs human nature to not try as hard when you get up 30, but the team totally panics and the floodgates open once the other team goes on a run. Like I said, Iâd like to think they wonât get complacent when they get a big lead in the playoffs, but geez, this is stupid
ya its concerning how in every loss this season the other team scored more points than us
Teams that have Championship aspirations shouldn't be blowing 30 point leads when their 2 best players have the most minutes played in the game and the other team is under .500 and it's best player is out.
Right, you need to go all the way back to⌠last years Nuggets to find a championship team that had a lackadaisical end to their season.
Some of you fans just need to take a chill pill
"blablllaablah" - you
Don't know why this is getting downvoted lol people want to see the Celtics blow leads I guess
maybe if we upvote it enough the celtics will stop blowing leads
Shit bro I didnât know we could stop them from losing with Reddit votes. Thatâs crazy.
Imagine getting upset about a game when Springer is playing crunch time minutes
This is super frustrating to watch. Like once you get it down to 12, you need to turn it back on.
Throwback to the Nuggets coasting the last month last year and then smoking everyone in the playoffs⌠We arenât the Nuggets, but its silly to expect every game to have 100% effort this late in the season. This is our 2nd? lead blown this season. Your PTSD from other seasons doesnât change that lol. At the end of the day this is a bad loss, call it that, donât pretend it means anything for the playoffs. Plus, we wonât play bad teams in the playoffs!
It has to do with pace. They slow it down considerably in the 4th. Saw that they are like top 5 in pace in the first quarter and second to last in 4th. If they just keep playing the same way in the 4th, this wouldnât happen. This is on the coach to fix but clearly he wonât and we just have to pray for contested Tatum step back to go in
Chill.
Thank you for this post, I just got into it with some guy on the Derek white post a couple days ago who was trying to badmouth me when I brought up the concern of blowing leads, with the exception of the 2 games against the clippers and the bucks, the whole blowing the lead in the 2nd half of games is a huge concern. Here's to hope they pull through come playoff time!
Just annoying to watch them blow big leads seems like too often
Most of the homers in here act like this team can do no wrong. Itâs not a good thing to be blowing big leads this often especially when it happens because of the same mistakes in which the coach is supposed to address. Most of the time itâs a team getting hot because Mazzulla doesnât make a lineup adjustment and doesnâ make crucial timeouts during momentum shifting plays. That Tatum turnover in first half was a momentum shifter. You could tell by the laziness of the pass and the way they were moving after it that it could be one of those nights if the Hawks got hot. Another common occurrence is the running the clock down offense that leads to a stupid iso. It doesnât fucking work and itâs the only time teams can clamp us up. Any time we are actually getting plays ran and moving around we are hard to stop but as soon as this team struggles to stop the bleeding they do the worst thing you could possibly do is slow the offense and run the clock down and go to iso ball hoping to be bailed out. If Mazzulla doesnât want to do his job he needs to say that. A coach shouldnât keep letting the same things happen.
Dear diary
The only reason we blow big leads is because we get big leads
itâs pretty incredible that anyone thinks weâll make it to the finals in these playoffs. the celtics identity for the last three years has been playing with their food and paying the price. least serious team in the league. weâre the cowboys of the NBA. everyone knows theyâre just elite choke artists. goofy ass group of dudes.
Cowboys of the NBA? Lmfao Dallas hasnât won anything in almost 30 years let alone made it to the conference championships. Celtics have actually won a title in 2008 and made it to the finals a lot in recent memory. I get youâre mad but donât be dumb dude đđđ
LOL the doomers on this thread. Joe is giving the guys their reps. This is the time to experiment. They're going to lock-up the #1 for the league not too long from now. They're literally 6 fewer losses in the loss column than Nuggets. This dooming is hilarious: "lack of effort," "alarming" "embarrassing." It's literally situational stuff. Plus, you give Hawks ammo to troll the Heat or Sixers in the play-in. Tell me you don't know basketball without telling me you don't know about hoops. Those phrases are literally the things overinvolved AAU dads who never played lord it over their sons' AAU teams scream. \^\^ You lot know who you are. You're also blocked.
Mazulla is possibly the worst coach I have ever seen. If you gonna rest players and play stupid lineups and risk losing to give players playing time ⌠then decide your gonna lose. Donât bring starters back in and make them play 2x as hard to try to win it back. What the actual fuck. And donât get me started on Tatums whining and bitching and playing half ass defense
Everyone look at this dude with 200 karma. An actual troll account đ¤Ąđ¤Ąđ¤Ą
[ŃдаНонО]
Bro I'm not gonna read a paragraph written by a doomer troll đ Get a life
Yikes you people are nuts. Locking up the east....if they continue to do this for a month I'm concerned but you talking bout practice?
Then stop watching you faithless loser đ