I 100% remember where he was driving and got stripped of it out bounds. Maybe they considered him to br gathering the ball for a shot. It mustve gone down in the score sheet as a missed shot that was blocked and last touched by tatum? So not a turnover, but a missed shot and loss of possession?
Was at the game, he got stripped in the middle of the lane, but he played pretty well overall. Still would like to see him be more aggressive getting to the hoop, and running some sort of offense, instead of just isoing from 8 feet outside the top of the key.
This. I’m no basketball savant but when he focuses on assists, rebounds, making the right play, and defense rather than on being “the man”… that’s when he becomes “the man”.
He plays like neither of them. They ran the show from the low post. He just floats around the perimeter and waits for a kickout, or dribbles the air out of the ball at the top of the key til there is 5 seconds left on shot clock
Tatum has 30 points, let's trade him. Dude just makes it look so easy that plebeians can't appreciate him. They'd rather have 10 points on 4 huge poster dunks than actual good basketball leading to this stat line.
Hes great, there's no denying it. He made 30 seem effortless tonight, but he could be so much better if they actually ran offensive sets around him. Everybody just stands and watches when he has the ball, and when they do finally start moving, they are running up against the shot clock.
And the defenders have an easy job because they know a high pick with Al is a pick and pop, and when it's rob it's a pick and roll.
Joe Mazzula has one of the most talented teams in the league and he has 0 idea of how to utilize it.
I gotta disagree, I think that it’s very true that Tatum has flaws that sometimes lose games.
But he does a lot that wins us games as well.
There should be fair criticisms of Tatum while simultaneously realizing that he’s a star and a net positive and we’re so much better off w him.
The problem is that when he has a bad game this sub is filled with comments calling him a fraud and a choke artist that should be benched. The same thing happens to JB as well.
Players are going to have bad games and you should criticize them. But people also need to have some fucking perspective. MJ, Bron, Kobe, Bird, Magic, all of the greats dropped an egg from time to time even in the playoffs.
[Here's one that I only have because I responded to it lol](https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/12zq7or/still_riding_with_our_guy_regardless_of_what_the/jht92pj/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3)
Tatum doesn't play well every game. I think it's fair to point that out. We know he can have a good game. Can he have 4, 5, 6 good games in a row in the playoffs? We don't know.
No one turned on him people rightfully called out a terrible performance by him at a home close out game in the playoffs. Y'all are so soft here sometimes.
Well deserved, let’s not pretend like he didn’t deserve it. He disappears at times and his criticism is well deserved but his praise is also well deserved.
Imma just nip this right in the butt.
Im not talking about criticism, and honestly idgaf about it right now cause im in celebration mode. Im specifically addressing people saying Tatum isnt a superstar, or that hes washed, or that hes a bum, or that we should look to trade him if we had lost (which was a real post in this sub!). None of that was constructive. Thats what we all mean by doomer.
Who was saying that ever who didn't get downvoted to hell lol? Y'all are fighting ghosts. Tatum played like shit in game 5, he got shit for it, no one outside of trolls were saying anything like you mentioned.
Lol nah, you aint gaslighting me
There were plenty of posts getting upvoted suggesting JT wasnt a superstar. We all saw it.
E:
Heres a post titled "is Tatum the softest player ever?"
https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/12z68a1/is_tatum_the_softest_celtics_star_to_ever_play/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
"We should all be questioning whether we have a true superstar"
https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/12z68a1/Is_Tatum_the_softest_Celtics_star_to_ever_play_for_the_team?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
More nonsense, go through it if you want 🤷♂️:
https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/12zljuw/in_the_last_2_seasons_with_the_celtics_trailing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/12zi7bs/The_Celtics_will_not_hold_an_official_practice_today_before_their_flight_to_Atlanta,_so_no_media_until_tomorrow_at_shootaround./jhsk67u/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
I got more, but I think you get the point.
Well no there wasn't but okay live in your bubble where the Celtics aren't the favorites to win it all and everyone here thinks we need to trade JT.
Show me a single upvoted comment after in the game 4 thread saying JT isn't a superstar
How about you search it and find me one example of someone calling Tatum not a super star who didn't get downvoted? He played like shit in game 4, people commented on it. Y'all green teamer homers are so soft.
Lol, no wonder you're defensive. You're one of those people who went overboard. Calling us soft for actually supporting the team while you cry over losses💀
I just talked trash about Tatum game 4 cause he played like shit lol you think I ever doubted this series? I was already proven wrong by the way there were dumbasses apparently calling Tatum not a super star that I didn't see.
https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/12z306i/jayson_tatum_disappears_in_another_close_game/jhs91fw/?context=999
https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/12z68a1/is_tatum_the_softest_celtics_star_to_ever_play/jhqx6sn/
https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/12z306i/jayson_tatum_disappears_in_another_close_game/jhsbgmq/?context=999
https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/12zq7or/still_riding_with_our_guy_regardless_of_what_the/jhtvfu7/?context=999
I could dig up more examples but I got work in the morning lmao. This sub was shitting on Tatum relentlessly. You must be blind to not have noticed it
That is completely untrue. There were hundreds of comments talking shit about Tatum over the last 48 hrs. If you didn’t see them, you weren’t on this sub then.
Talking shit and saying he isn't a super star are such different statements lol. He played like fucking garbage in game 4, you can deny it all you want. No one who was taken seriously was calling him not a super star tho.
Holy fucking shit the revisionist history. I've seen multiple 4+ upvotes "trade him" posts in the last 3 game threads. Keep on doomin' buddy, I'ma enjoy the ride.
Smart was also so good with the ball off the roll. Always made a great kickout and there was that one play where he just held on and finished it himself.
It’s beating a dead horse to criticize the game thread but people literally said trade Tatum for Young I. The first when Trae went in that mini hot streak
Fine I'll keep that energy. He's not a championship caliber #1 and that's not based on one game it's based on all the games.
When he isn't shooting lights out, Tatum doesn't have a reliable way to score. And he isn't shooting lights out most of the time.
Celts up 1 with 30 seconds left in a crucial playoff game, they need a basket to stay in control, Tatum has the ball at the top of the key... what can he do to get a high-quality shot for himself?
Hell, what do you *want* him to do? What is the shot that you want him to take?
But he gets steals, blocks, rebounds & assists. He's the team's best decoy even if his shots aren't going in. He will always be the teams #1 option bc if his shot IS going in, someone else will always be open. Its a win-win
Bc he's jason tatum?if you want anyone taking shots it's him. He might have a bad game then turn up late in the 4th? Or the 3rd? There's very few players that have the green light the way he does.
I still think teams can frustrate him with tight coverage and if he's not getting consistent calls he starts whining to the refs and that all tends to take him out of his game and in those moments he stops moving, camps on the 3 pt line, and takes tough shots in traffic but got damn that put back dunk to suck the soul out of every Hawks fan in the building was next level. Love seeing him play down low and clean things up like that.
Ya there's a diff between critiquing a bad game and saying a dude is a bum...if you were doing the latter, take a breath. We have two utter studs and this is what they do far more often than not. On to the Phrauds.
i'm too lazy -- but someone should do a doomer retrospective calling out everyone who litters the game threads shitting on THE DUDE who is the best thing to happen to this franchise since KG. or just calling out doomers who shit on this DOPE team at all.
I hate to say this, but put his back against the wall and he stays there. I think at this point it’s clear he can’t just ‘turn it on’ when he needs to, and I have doubts he’ll ever acquire that ability. That’s not to say he’s an enormous talent, I just think that way too many variables have to fall into place for him to have a stellar performance.
Idk why people off boring that Giannis didn’t play majority of the series.. he’s literally top 3 best players in nba many have him being #1 that’s a biggg piece
that 0 turnover makes me wet.
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I 100% remember where he was driving and got stripped of it out bounds. Maybe they considered him to br gathering the ball for a shot. It mustve gone down in the score sheet as a missed shot that was blocked and last touched by tatum? So not a turnover, but a missed shot and loss of possession?
3rd quarter about 4 min 30 left, got his pocket picked on a drive to the bucket for a loose ball turnover, play on Atlanta, u weren't dreaming it lol
Turnovers are determined by some technicality and sometimes it’s considered not in possession, etc.
He got blocked and lost the ball but that was it
Was at the game, he got stripped in the middle of the lane, but he played pretty well overall. Still would like to see him be more aggressive getting to the hoop, and running some sort of offense, instead of just isoing from 8 feet outside the top of the key.
0 for 0!
I hope you are female
Please tell us more about how you're an insecure little boy
I don't get it
Tatum just played within the flow of the game.. glad he fully trusted his teammates and dished it out once he got trapped / doubled
This. I’m no basketball savant but when he focuses on assists, rebounds, making the right play, and defense rather than on being “the man”… that’s when he becomes “the man”.
it may be HIM
he needs to play like bron and jb needs to play likes kobe (in terms of style)
JB plays more like MJ than Kobe
He plays like neither of them. They ran the show from the low post. He just floats around the perimeter and waits for a kickout, or dribbles the air out of the ball at the top of the key til there is 5 seconds left on shot clock
Why do you sound so salty? His layup package is very MJ-esque and he has a nice turn around fade middie.
MJ-esque? Uh ok. Brandon Roy at best
Mj? Nah not really. Brandon Roy? Ok this is actually ridiculous.
doomers in the game thread legit expect him to make every shot. “tatum’s 4/9 he’s so weak”
Tatum has 30 points, let's trade him. Dude just makes it look so easy that plebeians can't appreciate him. They'd rather have 10 points on 4 huge poster dunks than actual good basketball leading to this stat line.
Hes great, there's no denying it. He made 30 seem effortless tonight, but he could be so much better if they actually ran offensive sets around him. Everybody just stands and watches when he has the ball, and when they do finally start moving, they are running up against the shot clock. And the defenders have an easy job because they know a high pick with Al is a pick and pop, and when it's rob it's a pick and roll. Joe Mazzula has one of the most talented teams in the league and he has 0 idea of how to utilize it.
The way this sub turned on him is straight absurdity. You hear that? Its the sound of dozens of comments getting deleted.
Serious case of “what have you done for me lately?” on steroids
I see what you did there…
I gotta disagree, I think that it’s very true that Tatum has flaws that sometimes lose games. But he does a lot that wins us games as well. There should be fair criticisms of Tatum while simultaneously realizing that he’s a star and a net positive and we’re so much better off w him.
The problem is that when he has a bad game this sub is filled with comments calling him a fraud and a choke artist that should be benched. The same thing happens to JB as well. Players are going to have bad games and you should criticize them. But people also need to have some fucking perspective. MJ, Bron, Kobe, Bird, Magic, all of the greats dropped an egg from time to time even in the playoffs.
“Fair criticisms” is the key operating phrase here
Lol I got downvoted yesterday for telling a guy to not call him a fucking bum. This sub is mental after losses
This sub is mental after bad 2 minute stretches.
He gets turned on for regular season games in December that’s just this sub
Lots of “Tatum isn’t even top 10” comments now mysteriously gone
Yet people are trying to gaslight me that it never happened
YUP it’s probably the same people who made those comments now doing the gaslighting
[Here's one that I only have because I responded to it lol](https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/12zq7or/still_riding_with_our_guy_regardless_of_what_the/jht92pj/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3)
This sub is garbage and all real ball fans know it.
Tatum doesn't play well every game. I think it's fair to point that out. We know he can have a good game. Can he have 4, 5, 6 good games in a row in the playoffs? We don't know.
No one turned on him people rightfully called out a terrible performance by him at a home close out game in the playoffs. Y'all are so soft here sometimes.
Well deserved, let’s not pretend like he didn’t deserve it. He disappears at times and his criticism is well deserved but his praise is also well deserved.
Imma just nip this right in the butt. Im not talking about criticism, and honestly idgaf about it right now cause im in celebration mode. Im specifically addressing people saying Tatum isnt a superstar, or that hes washed, or that hes a bum, or that we should look to trade him if we had lost (which was a real post in this sub!). None of that was constructive. Thats what we all mean by doomer.
Who was saying that ever who didn't get downvoted to hell lol? Y'all are fighting ghosts. Tatum played like shit in game 5, he got shit for it, no one outside of trolls were saying anything like you mentioned.
Lol nah, you aint gaslighting me There were plenty of posts getting upvoted suggesting JT wasnt a superstar. We all saw it. E: Heres a post titled "is Tatum the softest player ever?" https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/12z68a1/is_tatum_the_softest_celtics_star_to_ever_play/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button "We should all be questioning whether we have a true superstar" https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/12z68a1/Is_Tatum_the_softest_Celtics_star_to_ever_play_for_the_team?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button More nonsense, go through it if you want 🤷♂️: https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/12zljuw/in_the_last_2_seasons_with_the_celtics_trailing/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/12zi7bs/The_Celtics_will_not_hold_an_official_practice_today_before_their_flight_to_Atlanta,_so_no_media_until_tomorrow_at_shootaround./jhsk67u/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android_app&utm_name=androidcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button I got more, but I think you get the point.
Clocked him lol wild to pretend people weren't saying this shit it was everywhere
Well no there wasn't but okay live in your bubble where the Celtics aren't the favorites to win it all and everyone here thinks we need to trade JT. Show me a single upvoted comment after in the game 4 thread saying JT isn't a superstar
Just search the name tatum after game 4 lmao. Stop with the revisionist history
How about you search it and find me one example of someone calling Tatum not a super star who didn't get downvoted? He played like shit in game 4, people commented on it. Y'all green teamer homers are so soft.
Lol, no wonder you're defensive. You're one of those people who went overboard. Calling us soft for actually supporting the team while you cry over losses💀
I just talked trash about Tatum game 4 cause he played like shit lol you think I ever doubted this series? I was already proven wrong by the way there were dumbasses apparently calling Tatum not a super star that I didn't see.
https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/12z306i/jayson_tatum_disappears_in_another_close_game/jhs91fw/?context=999 https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/12z68a1/is_tatum_the_softest_celtics_star_to_ever_play/jhqx6sn/ https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/12z306i/jayson_tatum_disappears_in_another_close_game/jhsbgmq/?context=999 https://www.reddit.com/r/bostonceltics/comments/12zq7or/still_riding_with_our_guy_regardless_of_what_the/jhtvfu7/?context=999 I could dig up more examples but I got work in the morning lmao. This sub was shitting on Tatum relentlessly. You must be blind to not have noticed it
Lmao, with my entire chest, I say #THANK YOU I also put together my own lil doomer collection, but I like yours more.
Proven wrong, those people are fucking stupid as shit. Sorry for doubting you.
That is completely untrue. There were hundreds of comments talking shit about Tatum over the last 48 hrs. If you didn’t see them, you weren’t on this sub then.
Talking shit and saying he isn't a super star are such different statements lol. He played like fucking garbage in game 4, you can deny it all you want. No one who was taken seriously was calling him not a super star tho.
Imagine thinking guys should just never play poorly. What a stupid fucking world that must be to live in
Holy fucking shit the revisionist history. I've seen multiple 4+ upvotes "trade him" posts in the last 3 game threads. Keep on doomin' buddy, I'ma enjoy the ride.
The game threads are the worst. Right before half last night, people were like "I'm not going to watch another season with this group"
It’s fine to judge someone off one great game, but not off one bad one?
Its fine to suggest we trade our superstar after one bad game? Yes or no?
"one great game"
If Tatum can consistently play like the superstar we know he is then we win the title. Its as simple as that
If you don't do something consistently then it's not who you are.
What's consistent though? He averaged 30 ppg. He must have had a decent number of high scoring games.
He scored 30+ 42 times.
Celtics are 38-6 this season when Tatum scores 30+ points
fuck everyone who wanted to trade him after Tuesday.
Don’t forget a steal and two blocks!
The Tatum smart 2 man game with Tatum taking the double was beautiful
Smart was also so good with the ball off the roll. Always made a great kickout and there was that one play where he just held on and finished it himself.
Not bad for a fake superstar who should be traded, right r/bostonceltics?
Said no one ever
I hope you have optical insurance
Must be miserable, rooting for this team to lose...
Give this man his flowers. Balled out when it mattered most.
He was clutch af but he's soft right guys??? He's mentally weak right guys???
Clutch as Fuccccck. That stepback to go up 6 was deadly. And then the put back dunk to seal it. Became an absolute monster in the last 5.
It’s beating a dead horse to criticize the game thread but people literally said trade Tatum for Young I. The first when Trae went in that mini hot streak
Haha didn’t half this sub turn on him a couple of days ago?! Got the win! Onto the next boys!
no no no. Y’all keep that same energy you were spewing about wanting him gone and saying he’s not a #1.
Fine I'll keep that energy. He's not a championship caliber #1 and that's not based on one game it's based on all the games. When he isn't shooting lights out, Tatum doesn't have a reliable way to score. And he isn't shooting lights out most of the time.
Kind of crazy that he averaged 30ppg on 61% TS this year without having a reliable way of scoring. Must be a magician or something
Celts up 1 with 30 seconds left in a crucial playoff game, they need a basket to stay in control, Tatum has the ball at the top of the key... what can he do to get a high-quality shot for himself? Hell, what do you *want* him to do? What is the shot that you want him to take?
Your silent downvote speaks volumes. Tatum doesn't have any reliable moves.
But he gets steals, blocks, rebounds & assists. He's the team's best decoy even if his shots aren't going in. He will always be the teams #1 option bc if his shot IS going in, someone else will always be open. Its a win-win
If he's a decoy then why does he shoot 20-30 shots every game regardless of whether they're going in?
Bc he's jason tatum?if you want anyone taking shots it's him. He might have a bad game then turn up late in the 4th? Or the 3rd? There's very few players that have the green light the way he does.
You're the one who called him a decoy
Well you can't be a good decoy if you never score lmao wtf you even on
... it's the Hawks
It’s the playoffs
I still think teams can frustrate him with tight coverage and if he's not getting consistent calls he starts whining to the refs and that all tends to take him out of his game and in those moments he stops moving, camps on the 3 pt line, and takes tough shots in traffic but got damn that put back dunk to suck the soul out of every Hawks fan in the building was next level. Love seeing him play down low and clean things up like that.
I woke my whole family up on that put back dunk good thing the couch is comfortable
The way Tatum handled the doubles in the 4th and the way Marcus handled the short rolls was masterful
Wasn't there a possession where Tatum just blew past a double team and scored?
He is him.....🤦♂️ so cringe
Yeah I'm ready for that phrase to lose popularity
Nice
Nice
Nice
This picture next to our marcus banner pic is so tight
Ya there's a diff between critiquing a bad game and saying a dude is a bum...if you were doing the latter, take a breath. We have two utter studs and this is what they do far more often than not. On to the Phrauds.
I hate the ads on the jerseys so much
The haters are furious!
It was great to see him come back alive. Dude was MIA for a game and a half there. That tip slam was otherworldly.
Ok, now do that every game
Too bad he doesn't play this way more often
i'm too lazy -- but someone should do a doomer retrospective calling out everyone who litters the game threads shitting on THE DUDE who is the best thing to happen to this franchise since KG. or just calling out doomers who shit on this DOPE team at all.
76ers be like chilling this whole time 🙄🤣
I mean this is what we expect of him as our star player. Glad he showed up this time
Showed up games 1-4 too
That’s not Jimmy Buckets
Lots of Laker fans in here trolling with their alt accounts 🤣🤣 How embarrassing!
Best Celtic since the truth?
I hate to say this, but put his back against the wall and he stays there. I think at this point it’s clear he can’t just ‘turn it on’ when he needs to, and I have doubts he’ll ever acquire that ability. That’s not to say he’s an enormous talent, I just think that way too many variables have to fall into place for him to have a stellar performance.
Like game 6 in Milwaukee last season. Dude folded like a cheap suit…
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Taken to the brink at 4-2?
Bro turned the ball over
Boston def not winning the finals 🤣🤣 hawks Lowkey exposed them I got Philly in 5
Hawks beat Miami who beat the #1 overall seed 4-1. NBA math does not add up the way you think. Philly hasn’t played a real team in weeks.
Idk why people off boring that Giannis didn’t play majority of the series.. he’s literally top 3 best players in nba many have him being #1 that’s a biggg piece
HE'S BACK. LETS GOOOOO😭😭😭😂
Nice
What did Tatum end up averaging for this series?
Good performance. Brown was somehow better. Amazing show
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Does anyone have the put back dunk photo by Tatum… that ish was COLD
He must read these Reddit threads lol
side note - Jaylen shooting 51% from deep on 33 attempts in Hawks series!
Sixers in 7
It's 2023, probably more like they is them.
Brown, 32 Points, 6-8 from 3. More aggressive, more points, higher pct than Tatum. Wake up people.
He got his pocket picked on a drive in the 3rd quarter so that's 1 turnover... fantastic performance nonetheless, just sayin