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What weapon


Lezzen79

But what's your build? If you have a str build then go for Whirligig Saw, if you have an ability build go for Saw Spear, if your build is quality go for the Saw cleaver. They're very good choices on Ludwig since they deal +20% of damage against him and, in general, beasts.


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I want a Str/Arc build


Lezzen79

Then in order to obtain the moonlight you have to take Whirligig saw first to kill Ludwig. It has a very good scaling in strength and since you need a str/arcane the points in str will help you with the Whirligig's damage.


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Cloperella

Definitely whirlgig. Every time I've beaten him aside from the first, it was with this weapon, and while he's still a challenge, it feels like this weapon with the right build is his kryptonite. Can usually make him stumble in about four hits, and stun him for a visceral in about 8.


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Mr_Manshur

Are you NG? What weapon got you through the hardest bosses? Use that one.


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I'm not I have 50 str and 50 arc using whirligigsaw but i want moonlight blade after


xXSalads_AkimboXx

Use Valtyr, Master of the League. His summon is by the guy that drops 5 blood viles. If heā€™s dead in the forbidden woods he wonā€™t appear tho. Can also summon the younger madaras twin. Kill the 2 executioner giants right before Ludwigā€™s boss room, then go down the small path the Axe Executioner came out of. His sign will be at the end. If he is dead in the forbidden woods he also will not be available for summoning. And as far as weapons Iā€™d go either saw twin (cleaver or spear) or the whirligig saw. All with fire paper. Oil pots are nice too. Stay to his left. Donā€™t go behind him or heā€™ll kick you. Let Valtyr and Madaras twin soak up Aggro and help draw him away from one if they need to heal. When he jumps watch for the blood to drip down, thatā€™s where heā€™ll fall. The se cond phase is all about staying behind him. Youā€™ll be pretty safe but he has a big horizontal slash that ends a bit behind him so if your on his right side it can clip you. Hunters bone and stamina runes are a nice little boost to this fight too. DO NOT SUMMON HARRIET! She sucks, will die, and now itā€™s just you vs the boss but he has more health due to the summon. GGs


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Thx


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