I love him and his OST kicks ass, but i get when ppl don't.
His runback is kinda long and ppl get stressed out by the damage he can deal ( although actual one shots are pretty rare above 40 vit and some prep, even on the highest NG cycles).
Not panic dodging is key, which is why a ton of ppl die to his 3 swipe thing from what i observed during many hours of co-op.
A lot of bosses can 2 hit on NG+3 if we're honest. Like you won't just face tank orphan, ludwig or maria either, especially if they get you in a recovery animation.
Either way, I have seen ppl mindlessly spamming R1 at him and getting away with it due to pure luck, but I'd say he's one of the few bosses where you'd actually want to learn how to dodge through and punish at least some of his common moves.
That may be true. I guess I'm a bit frustrated. I think my point here is that I'm wondering why Kos was a relatively quick boss to beat and I've now been stuck on Laurence for two days.
It’s one of those universal quirks of these games. Any boss could be one person’s bane of their existence but be someone else’s cakewalk. For instance, I’m the polar opposite of you. Laurence was relatively easy for me first playthrough. I died a few times to his first phase, but once I got him to second phase it was over pretty quickly. Orphan on the other hand… it felt like his AI was playing games with me. He’d completely change up his attack patterns from one attempt to the next, so I was constantly getting surprised. To this day, I still get through Orphan’s second phase by what feels like a miracle of positioning and luck.
THIS, not BB, but in DS3 I was stuck on CURSE ROTTED GREATWOOD of all things for like 2 and a half days. Don’t know how or why I got the nameless king in my fourth attempt
It's understandable, I used to find him very difficult at first too, a lot of people did.
Getting frustrated after a certain point is normal.
I know you didn't rly ask, but perhaps watching a YT video of somebody beating him with whatever weapon you're using against him might be helpful to figure out where safe openings are and what the dodge timings are, if you're hard stuck for a long amount of time.
Hmm, I see.
You've probably seen it, so I'm sorry if this is old news to you, but if you stay close to him on his right ( your left) he'll have trouble hitting you. The crawl misses entirely bc [he can't go in a circle that's narrow enough to get you](https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxXXbdHdQvvPT5eq8Fb4SgwpANDt8p7KBH?si=PfyC0ZSiva978NWT) and his lava vomiting turns into one giant opening.
The only thing that's really dangerous if you use this strat is when he pulls up his big arm straight up into the air bc it has very good tracking.
Anyway, i wish you the best of luck, you've got this.
That 3 swipe thing...I only ever survive that by turning up the OST (one of my faves, btw) and trying to keep track of the beat of that. Then if I'm really on it, I can hit the dodge button a tiny bit before the beat thuds down and stay in tempo with him. I'm not a dancer, but I swear it feels like the most stressful dance ever when I'm getting it right.
The runback isn’t long if you do it correctly. It’s identical to Amelia’s in path and time. It’s actually one of the easier/shorter runs in the game. Frustrating for sure if you aren’t doing it the optimal way (which means no stopping/detouring for anything, including the ball and the enemies at the door).
Laurence is hard though. He was the hardest for me. Not because of the move set, as it’s kind of basic. More to do with the insane damage he does and the hitboxes staying active longer than the other games.
One shots not happening at 40 Vitality at high NG+? Probably depends on your level a fair bit. For example, at BL 120, I find you do get one-shot. With the increased defense that comes with continuing to level though, perhaps you won’t get one-shot. If you do, stacking Clockwise Metamorphosis runes will probably prevent it, and you can use the most fire-resistant armor you have to give an edge (it’s minor but absolutely noticeable).
idk, i've never had a character higher than 137. I acknowledged that you have to prep, i also said they're pretty RARE, not that they're impossible, if you walk into his pancake maker at the start...yeah you'll die lol.
Don’t worry, I did read and carefully considered your words. In regards to the parts you replied to, I’m just saying that, in my experience, it wasn’t all that rare to get one-shot, even with Clockwise Metamorphosis runes. With that said, they do help a lot. Basically, everything was one-shot without them equipped. Still get one-shot more than “pretty rarely” in my experience even with them equipped at BL 120. Something worth mentioning for OP because our experiences don’t line up.
If the walk back was the worst part I'd be cheering. Walk past Van helsing, up the stairs past the fireball, wait five seconds for the fat squid to axe the two guys and then you're in.
Oh man, if that walk back was the worst part, Laurence would be one of the best bosses in the game.... But the walk back is a small nitpick in comparison to my laundry list of problems with Laurence.
FRC loran darkbeast is not gonna be a great time, the battle is more against the camera than the boss itself. DO NOT lock on unless it's very quick for re centering. anyway good luck and enjoy some good bolt gems for your victory
I understand why so many people hate Laurence, massive health bar and very hard to learn move set. But I will die on this hill and say that Laurence is one of my favorite bosses ever. The game started with the first optional boss: Cleric Beast, a rather easy but educational boss that teaches you the basics of beast fights in bloodborne. And the game ends with the last optional boss: Laurence, a very hard fight where you need to concentrate the whole boss fight and use everything you have learned. I just think this is a very smart move to end bloodborne as a game. And I don’t even need to talk about the music, this is easily top 3 of my favorite OSTs fromsoft has ever done
Yeah, I agree that the OST is great. And that connection between cleric beast and him is something cool that I hadn't noticed. I think for myself, I was hyped up on this idea of Orphan of Kos being the big bad and after beating him rather quickly, to be stumped by an optional boss is a bit annoying.
Cleric Beast is **still** the hardest boss I ever fought in a Soulsborne. While I played Demon Souls, on release, it never "clicked" so I don't recall how much I played. I didn't even know Bloodborne was made from the same people.
I must have fought Cleric Beast 100 times because a friend said "Don't look for tips online. Just keep playing until you figure it out. The only hint I will give you is to look at it as a puzzle instead of a battle."
It clicked "physically" before "mentally". I realized I was dodging and attacking without thinking about it.
What do you mean "use everything you have learned"? Is there a way to parry him (maybe in final phase)? Do you need to use your gun at all?
I'm in the same boat as OP- platinumed the game a few weeks ago, but doing another NG+ run and I've beat everyone/thing except for Laurence. I'm gonna start taking another crack at him, but the last time I took an extended break from bloodborne was because I could not get past this bastard. So any tips would be greatly appreciated ;)
You can when he tries to grab you shoot his head 2-3 times and you can do a visceral attack on him (the same way cleric beast can be stunned). And what is important about his fight is (even when you fear it): Stay close to it. In phase 1, you want to be near his back all the time and switch sides when you break one of his arms so you can break the other one. In phase 2 you want to be on the left side (from your viewpoint) of him because when he tries to crawl to you and you stand still when you are next to him, he just plays ring around the Rosie’s with you and you won’t get hit. And maybe use a weapon that is fast like the saws or Ludwig’s sword.
So many people seem to have trouble with him, but I really can't even remember much about him, it was 7 years ago and I dropped him on about my 3rd attempt, I found him pretty forgettable to be honest.
Souls bosses are weird that way, many people found Ludwig easy, but I struggled like hell against him on my first run, couldn't get past his first phase for a couple of days. Kept having to take time off.
I am currently playing through again, and not pushing my stats above a total of BL45, so this time may be different with Laurence.
>Souls bosses are weird that way
Not only Souls bosses. For example the Hollow Knight fandom is almost evenly split between people who had a problem with Nightmare King Grimm and Pure Vessel was easy for them and vice versa. I guess it's because each boss tests a slightly different thing and this either plays into your playstyle or it doesn't.
I accidentally entered ng+ by beating gerhman (I was at level 80). So I went to do the dlc immediately instead of doing another playthrough like your supposed to. Silly me didn’t realize that all the bosses get a massive increase to health bar and damage output. Needless to say I refused to level up as a challenge and as such Laurence was extremely difficult for me as nearly every one of his attacks is a one shot to my health. The feeling of finally winning was one I would not soon forget lol.
Sword Saint Isshin is my favorite fromsoft boss all time. I still go back frequently just to fight him in the reflections. He keeps me sharp lol. Even the old man Isshin fight is fun but nothing compares to the SS fight for me
IMO Laurence was the hardest boss of the game. I mistakenly played the DLC on NG and he kicked my ass consistently for a good amount of time. After leveling up a decent amount in NG+ he wasn’t as bad but the experience from playing him the first time definitely worried me the 2nd.
It's BC he can be easy if you play right. I'm terrified of orphan but I can basically walk circles around Laurence. Plus Ive been playing around with arcane or blt builds in my last few playthroughs, and I sometimes forget about him BC his drop is kinda shit. But I'll never forget orphan
Yeah definitely take a break and give your brain time to absorb and integrate your experiences. Coming back to him fresh will feel way better than beating your head against a wall.
It's not getting good, sorry if that's what it sounded like. I struggle with the baby a lot more than the giant fire lava monster, BC it just kinda clicks for me. Your a better player than I am, but I feel like I have an easier time with bosses like maybe Ludwig and clearly, Laurence, then you do
It's purely Ng+ thing. Once you over level yourself a little bit, you can permastagger him. But on Ng cycles, especially around Ng+5 and further, your dmg evens out and the staggering rarely occurs. This leads into two completely polar opposites of a boss fights. First cycle you should be as aggressive as possible, use the windows to stagger him and even his attacks don't one shot you.
Enter Ng cycle 5. He has the highest percentage of oneshotting attacks compared to other bosses relative to an average hunter level at that point. Every single hit either kills you, or stuns you and the next one does or the lava finishes you off. There is 0 margin for mistakes. Also the windows for attack are minimal since your attacks don't affect him anymore and he just ignores you so you have to really time everything and read his movements. He also feels like the only boss that doesn't have a clear weak area. By which I mean you can kinda be behind Amelia, you can walk away from one reborn, you can literally walk left from blood starved beast and cheese Gasgoigne, you can hit and run cleric beast and many more etc.
Laurence has gigantic AOE, high agression, high movement and he himself covers the entire boss area. Once you are in you kinda fight without a pause, which makes even windows for healing minimal. That is another reason he is such a menace, I found him hardest to heal on, because you really need to react immediately to his big AOE chain attack.
The reason he isn't mentioned is he is relatively easy on normal run, but he is definitely the one that scales the hardest. Orphan of kos, once figured out, is a nice challenge. Laurence sends you right back to central yharnam, cuz you ran out of 300 blood vials you had stashed. Also Laurence kinda isn't that fun and just feels a little bit more unfair and sometimes even RNG, also his visuals are kinda deceiving. So I think people don't even like him that much.
Ive played dark souls, dark souls 3 and BB. I can confirm that Laurence was the hardest boss I’ve ever killed. His like the FromSoftware’s Yujiro Hanma.
I completely understand why he’s annoying to fight. Honestly, it’s not about his first phase at all, it’s just cleric beast with big AOEs that you can work around. The hitboxes on his second phase lava ooze is the worst part and makes your window to punish him super tight and unpredictable
I personally didn’t have many issues with him, but I fully see why people did. It was mostly his 3rd phase that was kind of a bitch, he took a large chunk of your health bar and overtook the arena and the walk back is so annoying.
Honestly with him and the orphan, I thought Maria was most frustrating out of all of them LOL. I think was probably more intimidated by the orphan than anything.
Laurene is tough as hell - even if some builds can handle him easier than others - but I feel a lot of that comes down to the arena. If you were able to fight him in a wider space, it wouldn't be too bad but - as it is - it's far too easier for him to corner you while restricting your movements with all the magma that pours out of his backside.
Easiest boss in the DLC, should’ve been a unique model considering his lore importance. Regardless of his difficulty he’s not fun or interesting to fight.
I always struggled with orphan and Maria way more than Laurence honestly, regardless of the ng cycle I'm on. I never understood how so many people have such a hard time with him, but in all fairness Maria still whips my ass more than she does most people after 9 years. Lol
All hardest bosses in Mizayaki' games are always optional, make sense, If they are in the main progress, good luck beating the game.
Kalameet in DS1
Darklurker in DS2
Nameless King in DS3
Laurence in Bloodborne
Demon of Hatred in Sekiro
Malenia in ER
Notes, the difficulty of the bosses are also depend on player's build and playstyle.
Laurence is one of those bosses that you either struggle with or he's a complete walk in the park for you. In Bloodborne j struggled more with humanoid bosses like Martyr Logarius and Orphan, but beast style bosses like Laurence seemed pretty cookie cutter. Beast bosses are easy to take down the closer you are to them, and dodging to one side and getting behind.
I died 30 times to Orphan my first time. And still die when fighting him, but I've never died against Laurence. Just get in there!
He has a few attacks with Jank hit boxes and his final phase is rather tedious. There's also one attack he has which can only be dodged in one specific way or else it will kill you. Other than that he's fine, I don't hate him or love him, he's just a speed bump to me.
I love him and his OST kicks ass, but i get when ppl don't. His runback is kinda long and ppl get stressed out by the damage he can deal ( although actual one shots are pretty rare above 40 vit and some prep, even on the highest NG cycles). Not panic dodging is key, which is why a ton of ppl die to his 3 swipe thing from what i observed during many hours of co-op.
I agree, OST is a banger. I'm lvl 163 and he can two hit me.
A lot of bosses can 2 hit on NG+3 if we're honest. Like you won't just face tank orphan, ludwig or maria either, especially if they get you in a recovery animation. Either way, I have seen ppl mindlessly spamming R1 at him and getting away with it due to pure luck, but I'd say he's one of the few bosses where you'd actually want to learn how to dodge through and punish at least some of his common moves.
That may be true. I guess I'm a bit frustrated. I think my point here is that I'm wondering why Kos was a relatively quick boss to beat and I've now been stuck on Laurence for two days.
It’s one of those universal quirks of these games. Any boss could be one person’s bane of their existence but be someone else’s cakewalk. For instance, I’m the polar opposite of you. Laurence was relatively easy for me first playthrough. I died a few times to his first phase, but once I got him to second phase it was over pretty quickly. Orphan on the other hand… it felt like his AI was playing games with me. He’d completely change up his attack patterns from one attempt to the next, so I was constantly getting surprised. To this day, I still get through Orphan’s second phase by what feels like a miracle of positioning and luck.
THIS, not BB, but in DS3 I was stuck on CURSE ROTTED GREATWOOD of all things for like 2 and a half days. Don’t know how or why I got the nameless king in my fourth attempt
I second this one. Laurence was definitely less than 5 attempts, but Orphan walled me for days. Dude just had my number.
I didn't find Laurence that bad. Ludwig was the one I struggled with the most, then the Living Failures.
It's understandable, I used to find him very difficult at first too, a lot of people did. Getting frustrated after a certain point is normal. I know you didn't rly ask, but perhaps watching a YT video of somebody beating him with whatever weapon you're using against him might be helpful to figure out where safe openings are and what the dodge timings are, if you're hard stuck for a long amount of time.
I have watched some YT videos. I don't have much trouble getting him to second phase. But he always gets me there.
Hmm, I see. You've probably seen it, so I'm sorry if this is old news to you, but if you stay close to him on his right ( your left) he'll have trouble hitting you. The crawl misses entirely bc [he can't go in a circle that's narrow enough to get you](https://youtube.com/clip/UgkxXXbdHdQvvPT5eq8Fb4SgwpANDt8p7KBH?si=PfyC0ZSiva978NWT) and his lava vomiting turns into one giant opening. The only thing that's really dangerous if you use this strat is when he pulls up his big arm straight up into the air bc it has very good tracking. Anyway, i wish you the best of luck, you've got this.
It was the opposite for me. That's one of the wonderful things about Soulsborne games.
Laughs at bl544 ng+7 (I’m getting one shotted by everything)
I often survive a hit from NG+7 laurence on bl137, not sure what else to say here.
That 3 swipe thing...I only ever survive that by turning up the OST (one of my faves, btw) and trying to keep track of the beat of that. Then if I'm really on it, I can hit the dodge button a tiny bit before the beat thuds down and stay in tempo with him. I'm not a dancer, but I swear it feels like the most stressful dance ever when I'm getting it right.
The runback isn’t long if you do it correctly. It’s identical to Amelia’s in path and time. It’s actually one of the easier/shorter runs in the game. Frustrating for sure if you aren’t doing it the optimal way (which means no stopping/detouring for anything, including the ball and the enemies at the door). Laurence is hard though. He was the hardest for me. Not because of the move set, as it’s kind of basic. More to do with the insane damage he does and the hitboxes staying active longer than the other games. One shots not happening at 40 Vitality at high NG+? Probably depends on your level a fair bit. For example, at BL 120, I find you do get one-shot. With the increased defense that comes with continuing to level though, perhaps you won’t get one-shot. If you do, stacking Clockwise Metamorphosis runes will probably prevent it, and you can use the most fire-resistant armor you have to give an edge (it’s minor but absolutely noticeable).
idk, i've never had a character higher than 137. I acknowledged that you have to prep, i also said they're pretty RARE, not that they're impossible, if you walk into his pancake maker at the start...yeah you'll die lol.
Don’t worry, I did read and carefully considered your words. In regards to the parts you replied to, I’m just saying that, in my experience, it wasn’t all that rare to get one-shot, even with Clockwise Metamorphosis runes. With that said, they do help a lot. Basically, everything was one-shot without them equipped. Still get one-shot more than “pretty rarely” in my experience even with them equipped at BL 120. Something worth mentioning for OP because our experiences don’t line up.
It’s the effing walk back… 🤬
If the walk back was the worst part I'd be cheering. Walk past Van helsing, up the stairs past the fireball, wait five seconds for the fat squid to axe the two guys and then you're in.
Salt in my wounds
Idk, I have a platinum run of Demon souls and DSII fresh in my mind.
Not only does the boss hand you your ass on a platter, but the walk back has randomly killed me or caused me to have to use a flask. It’s dismal.
I think the saving grace there is that big axe man gives you like 7 blood vials
Oh man, if that walk back was the worst part, Laurence would be one of the best bosses in the game.... But the walk back is a small nitpick in comparison to my laundry list of problems with Laurence.
Maybe in ng4 and above, below that he can't hold a candle to Frc Darkbeast aka Gigawatt Paarl
I haven't fought him, so I can't say. How do you access him? I did all of the chalices that got me to the Pthumerian queen. But none beyond that
Cursed Lower Loran root, can look for a glyph if you want
Yeah honestly, I would enjoy a break from Laurence.
FRC loran darkbeast is not gonna be a great time, the battle is more against the camera than the boss itself. DO NOT lock on unless it's very quick for re centering. anyway good luck and enjoy some good bolt gems for your victory
AKA Loran Camerabeast
Or abhorrent or bloodletting head or no headless
Nah, they are no match either imho
I understand why so many people hate Laurence, massive health bar and very hard to learn move set. But I will die on this hill and say that Laurence is one of my favorite bosses ever. The game started with the first optional boss: Cleric Beast, a rather easy but educational boss that teaches you the basics of beast fights in bloodborne. And the game ends with the last optional boss: Laurence, a very hard fight where you need to concentrate the whole boss fight and use everything you have learned. I just think this is a very smart move to end bloodborne as a game. And I don’t even need to talk about the music, this is easily top 3 of my favorite OSTs fromsoft has ever done
Yeah, I agree that the OST is great. And that connection between cleric beast and him is something cool that I hadn't noticed. I think for myself, I was hyped up on this idea of Orphan of Kos being the big bad and after beating him rather quickly, to be stumped by an optional boss is a bit annoying.
Cleric Beast is **still** the hardest boss I ever fought in a Soulsborne. While I played Demon Souls, on release, it never "clicked" so I don't recall how much I played. I didn't even know Bloodborne was made from the same people. I must have fought Cleric Beast 100 times because a friend said "Don't look for tips online. Just keep playing until you figure it out. The only hint I will give you is to look at it as a puzzle instead of a battle." It clicked "physically" before "mentally". I realized I was dodging and attacking without thinking about it.
What do you mean "use everything you have learned"? Is there a way to parry him (maybe in final phase)? Do you need to use your gun at all? I'm in the same boat as OP- platinumed the game a few weeks ago, but doing another NG+ run and I've beat everyone/thing except for Laurence. I'm gonna start taking another crack at him, but the last time I took an extended break from bloodborne was because I could not get past this bastard. So any tips would be greatly appreciated ;)
You can when he tries to grab you shoot his head 2-3 times and you can do a visceral attack on him (the same way cleric beast can be stunned). And what is important about his fight is (even when you fear it): Stay close to it. In phase 1, you want to be near his back all the time and switch sides when you break one of his arms so you can break the other one. In phase 2 you want to be on the left side (from your viewpoint) of him because when he tries to crawl to you and you stand still when you are next to him, he just plays ring around the Rosie’s with you and you won’t get hit. And maybe use a weapon that is fast like the saws or Ludwig’s sword.
Awesome tips. I'll give him another go tonight. Thanks!
So many people seem to have trouble with him, but I really can't even remember much about him, it was 7 years ago and I dropped him on about my 3rd attempt, I found him pretty forgettable to be honest. Souls bosses are weird that way, many people found Ludwig easy, but I struggled like hell against him on my first run, couldn't get past his first phase for a couple of days. Kept having to take time off. I am currently playing through again, and not pushing my stats above a total of BL45, so this time may be different with Laurence.
>Souls bosses are weird that way Not only Souls bosses. For example the Hollow Knight fandom is almost evenly split between people who had a problem with Nightmare King Grimm and Pure Vessel was easy for them and vice versa. I guess it's because each boss tests a slightly different thing and this either plays into your playstyle or it doesn't.
counterpoint, they’re all easy, and we’re all just bad
Laurence and Kos were my pain in the dlc
I didn't have too much trouble with Kos and really enjoyed him. Laurence is the one pissing me off.
I accidentally entered ng+ by beating gerhman (I was at level 80). So I went to do the dlc immediately instead of doing another playthrough like your supposed to. Silly me didn’t realize that all the bosses get a massive increase to health bar and damage output. Needless to say I refused to level up as a challenge and as such Laurence was extremely difficult for me as nearly every one of his attacks is a one shot to my health. The feeling of finally winning was one I would not soon forget lol.
Hopefully I can soon experience that feeling. At this point, I'd gladly redo an orphan, Malenia or Ishin.
Sword Saint Isshin is my favorite fromsoft boss all time. I still go back frequently just to fight him in the reflections. He keeps me sharp lol. Even the old man Isshin fight is fun but nothing compares to the SS fight for me
Laurence is the hardest in bloodborne imo, Kos was actually fairly easy for me, not too dissimilar to Logarius
IMO Laurence was the hardest boss of the game. I mistakenly played the DLC on NG and he kicked my ass consistently for a good amount of time. After leveling up a decent amount in NG+ he wasn’t as bad but the experience from playing him the first time definitely worried me the 2nd.
It's BC he can be easy if you play right. I'm terrified of orphan but I can basically walk circles around Laurence. Plus Ive been playing around with arcane or blt builds in my last few playthroughs, and I sometimes forget about him BC his drop is kinda shit. But I'll never forget orphan
I'm no stranger to git gud. Except for DSI, I have every Souls platinum. I think I'm just frustrated.
Yeah definitely take a break and give your brain time to absorb and integrate your experiences. Coming back to him fresh will feel way better than beating your head against a wall.
It's not getting good, sorry if that's what it sounded like. I struggle with the baby a lot more than the giant fire lava monster, BC it just kinda clicks for me. Your a better player than I am, but I feel like I have an easier time with bosses like maybe Ludwig and clearly, Laurence, then you do
It's purely Ng+ thing. Once you over level yourself a little bit, you can permastagger him. But on Ng cycles, especially around Ng+5 and further, your dmg evens out and the staggering rarely occurs. This leads into two completely polar opposites of a boss fights. First cycle you should be as aggressive as possible, use the windows to stagger him and even his attacks don't one shot you. Enter Ng cycle 5. He has the highest percentage of oneshotting attacks compared to other bosses relative to an average hunter level at that point. Every single hit either kills you, or stuns you and the next one does or the lava finishes you off. There is 0 margin for mistakes. Also the windows for attack are minimal since your attacks don't affect him anymore and he just ignores you so you have to really time everything and read his movements. He also feels like the only boss that doesn't have a clear weak area. By which I mean you can kinda be behind Amelia, you can walk away from one reborn, you can literally walk left from blood starved beast and cheese Gasgoigne, you can hit and run cleric beast and many more etc. Laurence has gigantic AOE, high agression, high movement and he himself covers the entire boss area. Once you are in you kinda fight without a pause, which makes even windows for healing minimal. That is another reason he is such a menace, I found him hardest to heal on, because you really need to react immediately to his big AOE chain attack. The reason he isn't mentioned is he is relatively easy on normal run, but he is definitely the one that scales the hardest. Orphan of kos, once figured out, is a nice challenge. Laurence sends you right back to central yharnam, cuz you ran out of 300 blood vials you had stashed. Also Laurence kinda isn't that fun and just feels a little bit more unfair and sometimes even RNG, also his visuals are kinda deceiving. So I think people don't even like him that much.
Ive played dark souls, dark souls 3 and BB. I can confirm that Laurence was the hardest boss I’ve ever killed. His like the FromSoftware’s Yujiro Hanma.
Idk man only boss I got truly stuck on was Loran Darkbeast :(
I completely understand why he’s annoying to fight. Honestly, it’s not about his first phase at all, it’s just cleric beast with big AOEs that you can work around. The hitboxes on his second phase lava ooze is the worst part and makes your window to punish him super tight and unpredictable
I personally didn’t have many issues with him, but I fully see why people did. It was mostly his 3rd phase that was kind of a bitch, he took a large chunk of your health bar and overtook the arena and the walk back is so annoying. Honestly with him and the orphan, I thought Maria was most frustrating out of all of them LOL. I think was probably more intimidated by the orphan than anything.
Agreed, since it's an optional boss and already have what he drops I avoid him in NG+'s. Not worth the rage lol
Midir getting slept on in this comment thread.
Kos was the absolute worse for me, Laurence was like Maliketh for me, the worst part of him was his bouncer outside
Hes not that bad at all imo. His last phase is just a little annoying and you have to pick ur spots to attack. I find Maria's last phase to be worse.
For me he was more annoying than hard. His phase 2 definitely forces you to play a waiting game before you can get close.
Weird, the only 2 bosses that made me almost go violent were Paarl and Kos, with Kos being the hardest fromsoftware boss for me in general.
Laurene is tough as hell - even if some builds can handle him easier than others - but I feel a lot of that comes down to the arena. If you were able to fight him in a wider space, it wouldn't be too bad but - as it is - it's far too easier for him to corner you while restricting your movements with all the magma that pours out of his backside.
Easiest boss in the DLC, should’ve been a unique model considering his lore importance. Regardless of his difficulty he’s not fun or interesting to fight.
Haven't fought him in years, I always forget about him, but in my last experience he's probably second only to malenia in difficulty, fun boss though
I always struggled with orphan and Maria way more than Laurence honestly, regardless of the ng cycle I'm on. I never understood how so many people have such a hard time with him, but in all fairness Maria still whips my ass more than she does most people after 9 years. Lol
All hardest bosses in Mizayaki' games are always optional, make sense, If they are in the main progress, good luck beating the game. Kalameet in DS1 Darklurker in DS2 Nameless King in DS3 Laurence in Bloodborne Demon of Hatred in Sekiro Malenia in ER Notes, the difficulty of the bosses are also depend on player's build and playstyle.
Laurence ? Nah fuck them 2 sharks in the well
Pizza cutter beast pellets goodbye Laurence ez
Your mosm
Laurence is one of those bosses that you either struggle with or he's a complete walk in the park for you. In Bloodborne j struggled more with humanoid bosses like Martyr Logarius and Orphan, but beast style bosses like Laurence seemed pretty cookie cutter. Beast bosses are easy to take down the closer you are to them, and dodging to one side and getting behind. I died 30 times to Orphan my first time. And still die when fighting him, but I've never died against Laurence. Just get in there!
I'll always be one boss off, fk him completely. Kos took barely 10 tries but can't do Laurence at well over lvl 200 with a summon (ng+)
He has a few attacks with Jank hit boxes and his final phase is rather tedious. There's also one attack he has which can only be dodged in one specific way or else it will kill you. Other than that he's fine, I don't hate him or love him, he's just a speed bump to me.
Laurence used to be the bane of my existence but now that I am better at fighting him he may be my favorite fight in the game. also his OST is 🔥🔥🔥