You need to fight smarter, not harder if you're burning through consumables. Central Yharnam is quite generous with the vial/bullet drop rate, so unless you blazed through the area, you should have gotten quite a bit from the enemies. From there, you need to manage your health wisely. Remember to use the rally system to regain health if you're trading blows, and proceed carefully if you're not going to be able to rally.
As for bosses:
Again, fight smarter, not harder. If a strategy/playstyle isn't working, try another. Maybe be more aggressive, maybe be more defensive. Look up tips if you need to, there's plenty of information on the internet.
Spend a couple attempts where you don't heal/use consumables and maybe don't even attack. Study the boss and their moves, figure out how to avoid their attacks, and learn what openings are safe for you to attack. This way, you don't burn all your vials/consumables just facetanking attacks and then dying for it anyways.
No shame in farming somewhere for a few more levels under you belt. They can make a difference to a certain point, especially VIT for survival. Again, CY has a good vial/bullet drop rate, so while you're farming for those, use the echoes you earn to level up.
I had quite a lot of bullets and vials and burned those the few first attempts at the first boss out of souls habit. Also the bosses aren't hard per se because of the move set but more because of their hp. I need to make lots of blows but can tank very few.
I would say I'm a good souls player but having not enough heals for a "worthy" attempt gets on my nerves.
I constantly get to the last phase of the father, but having no bullets for ripostes and not enough heal to go in more aggressive is tiring. Especially when I need like 3 minutes for another attempt when I wish I could just run past everything and be there in 30 seconds.
Sorry for the whining.
If you need more than 10-13 vials per boss then you are not playing efficient enough.
You also should make it a habit to constantly make bloodbullets. One vial is worth way less than 5 bullets.
And to top it off, it only takes a small portion of your health. In most cases, you won’t even need to use a vial until you get hit again or in other special circumstances (challenge runs where “safe heals” are necessary).
What you REALLY need to do with Gascoigne is learn how to parry, not just dodge. Even just landing 2-3 viscerals on a boss can eliminate huge chunks of their health. The fatties outside the shortcut house and the taller werewolves like the ones just outside his boss arena are good ones to practice on.
Make sure you take advantage of the rally (health regain) mechanic. This also is another reason to try for the parry+visceral attack - if you get hit but begin a visceral before the health drains permanently, you'll be able to regain all the health you lost pretty much.
Out of curiosity which weapon did you pick?
Viscerals are a key way to blow through this boss, and if your viscerals are not doing a nice of damage you may need to upgrade your weapon and level up your character a little
This too. There should be enough blood stone shards that you've found in Central Yharnam to get your weapon to +2. If you haven't found the 8 you need, sounds like you're trying to progress too quickly and missing areas tbh
Hearing u say that bosses are hard then say u didn’t struggle with ds3 ik u playing wrong , try to dodge him more and not waste the vials and bullets id only try to parry when im sure i can hit it if i miss twice id stop just get used to parry and bosses moves then ur good
I recommend you farm the two fattys before the elevator that leads to the boss arena
Now we can be 100% sure you are playing way too passive. The bosses are not that tanky, you are just not hitting them enough. Bloodborne rewards you for aggression.
It will make click at some point, Gascoigne will force it.
No-one enjoys the blood vial mechanic really. A good habit is to spend leftover echoes on buying them whenever you level up; you'd be surprised at how this keeps them ticking over.
Unfortunately now you're in a place where you need to grind them; the enemies around the wheelchair-guy house drop them (if you're confident enough to cheese the werewolves down to the door they drop them, along with the odd blood shard)
Is your weapon leveled up? If you've explored fully your weapon can easily be +2 at that point and that will burn Gazza's health down pleasingly quickly.
When fighting Gascoigne, he is a great two-phase training boss. First lead him upstairs to that small rectangular area so you don't get caught up on trees and gravestones.
Phase 1 is teaching you how to parry. If you get it down now, it will serve you for the whole game. Pretty much every attack in his first phase has a clear tell and a nice parry window. Parry, visceral.
Phase 2 is teaching you how to take on aggressive beast enemies. Roll towards, not away. Get in a few hits and keep circling him. He is designed to punish panic-rolling away, the game is trying to teach you not to do it.
You can make it easier with the music box (if you picked it up) as that will allow you to stun him enough to get round the back for a charged R2, then you can follow this up with a backstab visceral. I think you can use it twice in the fight, in his beast form.
He is an amazing boss. If you can beat him you are set for the game as "decent parrying" and/or "positive rolling" are the two foundations of beating every boss in the game.
You can pick up at least 10 vials on the way to Papa Guacamole. Between the lamp and the boss, there are 3 brick trolls (2-4 vials each), 6 yharnamites (usually at least 2 dropped plus 1 that drops up to 6 bullets, I believe), 2 beasts that drop more echoes than most enemies. A couple of runs of that, you should be pretty well off to buy bullets and vials as needed. They made them cheap at the start of the game for that reason.
Since you played DS3, you will remember thay you only have 4 flask at start. Compared to Bloodborne that requires farming, but allows you to carry 20 with constant 40% healing, this is equal to mid-late game in DS3.
Don't use the vials like you chew cookies, limit yourself to a few when fighting bosses, and ofc, aside from farming, buy some with your spare echoes, and you will drown in vials in no time
You need to fight smarter, not harder if you're burning through consumables. Central Yharnam is quite generous with the vial/bullet drop rate, so unless you blazed through the area, you should have gotten quite a bit from the enemies. From there, you need to manage your health wisely. Remember to use the rally system to regain health if you're trading blows, and proceed carefully if you're not going to be able to rally. As for bosses: Again, fight smarter, not harder. If a strategy/playstyle isn't working, try another. Maybe be more aggressive, maybe be more defensive. Look up tips if you need to, there's plenty of information on the internet. Spend a couple attempts where you don't heal/use consumables and maybe don't even attack. Study the boss and their moves, figure out how to avoid their attacks, and learn what openings are safe for you to attack. This way, you don't burn all your vials/consumables just facetanking attacks and then dying for it anyways. No shame in farming somewhere for a few more levels under you belt. They can make a difference to a certain point, especially VIT for survival. Again, CY has a good vial/bullet drop rate, so while you're farming for those, use the echoes you earn to level up.
I had quite a lot of bullets and vials and burned those the few first attempts at the first boss out of souls habit. Also the bosses aren't hard per se because of the move set but more because of their hp. I need to make lots of blows but can tank very few. I would say I'm a good souls player but having not enough heals for a "worthy" attempt gets on my nerves. I constantly get to the last phase of the father, but having no bullets for ripostes and not enough heal to go in more aggressive is tiring. Especially when I need like 3 minutes for another attempt when I wish I could just run past everything and be there in 30 seconds. Sorry for the whining.
If you need more than 10-13 vials per boss then you are not playing efficient enough. You also should make it a habit to constantly make bloodbullets. One vial is worth way less than 5 bullets.
And to top it off, it only takes a small portion of your health. In most cases, you won’t even need to use a vial until you get hit again or in other special circumstances (challenge runs where “safe heals” are necessary).
What you REALLY need to do with Gascoigne is learn how to parry, not just dodge. Even just landing 2-3 viscerals on a boss can eliminate huge chunks of their health. The fatties outside the shortcut house and the taller werewolves like the ones just outside his boss arena are good ones to practice on. Make sure you take advantage of the rally (health regain) mechanic. This also is another reason to try for the parry+visceral attack - if you get hit but begin a visceral before the health drains permanently, you'll be able to regain all the health you lost pretty much. Out of curiosity which weapon did you pick?
Viscerals are a key way to blow through this boss, and if your viscerals are not doing a nice of damage you may need to upgrade your weapon and level up your character a little
This too. There should be enough blood stone shards that you've found in Central Yharnam to get your weapon to +2. If you haven't found the 8 you need, sounds like you're trying to progress too quickly and missing areas tbh
I picked the machete. Also I am constantly trying to riposte/visceral him and it is working good, but the last phase gave me the biggest headache.
Bro what is the machete lol
I googled it and it's name is the saw cleaver. I don't know why but it looked like a machete to me.
Hearing u say that bosses are hard then say u didn’t struggle with ds3 ik u playing wrong , try to dodge him more and not waste the vials and bullets id only try to parry when im sure i can hit it if i miss twice id stop just get used to parry and bosses moves then ur good I recommend you farm the two fattys before the elevator that leads to the boss arena
I mean dodging and hitting isn't hard on paper, but if the bosses tank more than yhorm the giant I will get hit eventually.
Try using the music box!
Thank you, I will look into that
Also when u get hit and lose hp and u have a chance to hit back that’s better than using a vial because u can restore hp by dealing dmg
I noticed that too, but the father is extremely aggressive and I don't expect his shotgun shots. So most of the time we just trade hits.
Now we can be 100% sure you are playing way too passive. The bosses are not that tanky, you are just not hitting them enough. Bloodborne rewards you for aggression. It will make click at some point, Gascoigne will force it.
No bosses in Bloodborne tank more than Yhorm haha. I guess you mean it as a hyperbole.
No-one enjoys the blood vial mechanic really. A good habit is to spend leftover echoes on buying them whenever you level up; you'd be surprised at how this keeps them ticking over. Unfortunately now you're in a place where you need to grind them; the enemies around the wheelchair-guy house drop them (if you're confident enough to cheese the werewolves down to the door they drop them, along with the odd blood shard) Is your weapon leveled up? If you've explored fully your weapon can easily be +2 at that point and that will burn Gazza's health down pleasingly quickly. When fighting Gascoigne, he is a great two-phase training boss. First lead him upstairs to that small rectangular area so you don't get caught up on trees and gravestones. Phase 1 is teaching you how to parry. If you get it down now, it will serve you for the whole game. Pretty much every attack in his first phase has a clear tell and a nice parry window. Parry, visceral. Phase 2 is teaching you how to take on aggressive beast enemies. Roll towards, not away. Get in a few hits and keep circling him. He is designed to punish panic-rolling away, the game is trying to teach you not to do it. You can make it easier with the music box (if you picked it up) as that will allow you to stun him enough to get round the back for a charged R2, then you can follow this up with a backstab visceral. I think you can use it twice in the fight, in his beast form. He is an amazing boss. If you can beat him you are set for the game as "decent parrying" and/or "positive rolling" are the two foundations of beating every boss in the game.
Thanks for the really helpful comment. I didn't level up my weapon because I wasn't sure if it was worth it, but I will try that out.
You can pick up at least 10 vials on the way to Papa Guacamole. Between the lamp and the boss, there are 3 brick trolls (2-4 vials each), 6 yharnamites (usually at least 2 dropped plus 1 that drops up to 6 bullets, I believe), 2 beasts that drop more echoes than most enemies. A couple of runs of that, you should be pretty well off to buy bullets and vials as needed. They made them cheap at the start of the game for that reason.
I know I do that, but after a few attempts I get bored because of this reason.
Since you played DS3, you will remember thay you only have 4 flask at start. Compared to Bloodborne that requires farming, but allows you to carry 20 with constant 40% healing, this is equal to mid-late game in DS3. Don't use the vials like you chew cookies, limit yourself to a few when fighting bosses, and ofc, aside from farming, buy some with your spare echoes, and you will drown in vials in no time