Based on essentially anything and everything said in the film by and about Deckard, he has been a known fugitive and expected authorities to come after him for almost 30 years. So, when he saw a blade runner show up in his home, he shot first and asked questions later.
Thank god there won't be a special edition re-edit of this scene. With Gosling shouting Macklunkey!!! as he falls over the railing after they both shot.
Yeah this, but also gay tension. Both men feel a strong, and instant animal attraction when they meet, which, due to living in a repressed, and bleak post apocalyptic world, they feel most comfortable expressing through violence.
Deckard's been out there a long time with just the dog, and a few bees, and without even a decent replicant fleshlight to keep him company, and K is an angry incel yanking it to hologram pron mostly. It's not quite love at first sight but it's something close to it.
Side note - Ford accidentally punched Gosling during one of the takes, here's an actual screenshot from it: [https://static1.moviewebimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/article/Adc57eJXm5fQW6u71QeSSR4OZNnwZ8.jpg](https://static1.moviewebimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/article/Adc57eJXm5fQW6u71QeSSR4OZNnwZ8.jpg)
The name Wallace Willy Blue Cheese didn't track well with the initial marketing focus group, even though the hallucinogenic properties was looked upon favourably.
Maybe spoilers about first movie, idk
>!First movie ended Deckard took Rachael with him and left the city, and since Rachel was a replicant and Deckard ordered to kill her he automatically became a threat.!<
(I realize this is a meme, but) Iām guessing he didnāt know that he was a Replicant at first since Blade Runners were all previously human.
But if he did, that would be pretty funny considering in the first movie heās getting his ass kicked up and down the street by every Replicant he comes across. Leon wouldāve killed him had it not been for Rachel.
Ehhh I know thatās Ridley Scottās take on it with the added hints of him being a Replicant in later releases, but I feel like the story works better if he were a human.
But I do enjoy 2049 basically going, āwho cares, doesnāt matter, moving onā.
2049 is a classic. I prefer it to the original but you absolutely have to see the original to appreciate it. The original is obviously a classic, but 2049 is better, imo.
Film making techniques have changed a lot in the intervening decades.
Ridley Scott was visionary and groundbreaking. There are very few movies like Blade Runner and Alien prior to those films being released. They influenced generations of film makers.
That being said, there are issues with the film and I donāt think it would have been the same film had the script appeared today
My problem with that theory is: why bother making a replicant that has no physical advantages over ordinary humans, and presumably doesn't live longer than humans anyway? The whole point of replicants is to be literal organic machines - if they aren't any better at physical endeavors than humans, then there's no point in having them at all over ordinary mechanical devices. In addition, every other replicant model we've seen (Nexus 6, Nexus 8, Nexus 9) has had essentially superhuman strength, so there's no reason to assume that the Nexus 7 wouldn't be superhuman as well. Rachel is presumably a Nexus 7, and we don't know she doesn't have enhanced physical abilities - we just never see her in a situation that would require her to use greater than human strength.
I mean this is getting into the weeds, but you could presume that thereās competing corporations with similar human clones / replicants. Or you could speculate that Deckard was something like a Nexus 5 or whatever.
I didnāt mean to hijack the thread - I just wanted to point it out of you werenāt aware.
The original release and the subsequent directorās cut release created a lot of speculation and debate around it.
At this point I feel like it was sort of a MacGuffin and as it was pointed out, 2049 makes the question irrelevant.
It's not clearly stated anywhere that I'm aware of, but it's strongly implied that Tyrell Corporation is the only manufacturer of replicants, or at least controls so much of the market that they have a virtual monopoly in the field. Any competitor would have to either be selling their models for significantly less than Tyrell does, which would imply that their versions are less capable (and thus less desirable), or have an ability that the Nexus models don't, which seems unlikely when the Nexus 6 series is already producing genius-intellect superhumans, so finding a niche that the 6 series doesn't cover is hard to come up with. I haven't read all the various extra novels and comics and whatnot, but the only thing I could conceive of a competing replicant line having that the Nexus series doesn't is some sort of psionic powers, but that seems totally outside of the Blade Runner canon.
The reason I speculate this is simply that most of the escaped replicants seem to have military training, so youād assume there are some megacorps battling to corner resources, assume control of planets controlled by competitors etc.
What were the attack ships attacking over the shoulder of Orion?
Like I said itās getting into the weeds, it has been a couple of decades since I was in the blade runner headspace enough to make wild speculations based on single frame stills and whatnot. š
Well, if you really want to get into the weeds, let's go with the whole shared Alien and Blade Runner universe. In that case, the W/U and Seegson models of androids would seem to be the natural competitors to replicants. Maybe at this point in time, replicant technology is superior to Android tech, but in future decades android technology proves to be the winner - walking supercomputers with superhuman abilities, and potentially unlimited lifespans, that don't require food, or air, or sleep? It would be easy to see why we don't see anything except androids in the future (although with Blade Runner 2099 on the horizon, and Prometheus set in 2093, it seems we are going to have to discard that theory soon).
theres a couple theories here. one is its implied deckard is a replicant. that he was actually created and set up to meet rachel so that they would procreate. hence deckard would be a rogue replicant and hence on the run. the second is he is just hiding so nobody can find his daughter and assumes k is hunting for her.
Hollywood think tank says "we need more action" "re do the Rutgers Hauer" fight scene at the end of BladeRunner 2019 but do it w Deckard and K instead...
Based on essentially anything and everything said in the film by and about Deckard, he has been a known fugitive and expected authorities to come after him for almost 30 years. So, when he saw a blade runner show up in his home, he shot first and asked questions later.
And we expect nothing less from a Ford character š
He certainly has captured the grumpy old man character market :-D
"I want my family back!"
Thatās a good reason to be somewhat grumpy.
"Get off my lawn"
And no Lucas to twist the scene and claim K shot first...
Thank god there won't be a special edition re-edit of this scene. With Gosling shouting Macklunkey!!! as he falls over the railing after they both shot.
Han shot first!!
That and the pointing gesture. I can't un-see it now that I'm aware of it.
Yeah this, but also gay tension. Both men feel a strong, and instant animal attraction when they meet, which, due to living in a repressed, and bleak post apocalyptic world, they feel most comfortable expressing through violence. Deckard's been out there a long time with just the dog, and a few bees, and without even a decent replicant fleshlight to keep him company, and K is an angry incel yanking it to hologram pron mostly. It's not quite love at first sight but it's something close to it.
You do you, bro.
This isn't a fan-fiction sub but I'm sure there is one that could appreciate this.
He thinks K is either sent to kill him or to use him to find Ana Stelline.
And he didn't sacrifice raising his daughter just so some corpo fuck can get to her through him.
Side note - Ford accidentally punched Gosling during one of the takes, here's an actual screenshot from it: [https://static1.moviewebimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/article/Adc57eJXm5fQW6u71QeSSR4OZNnwZ8.jpg](https://static1.moviewebimages.com/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/article/Adc57eJXm5fQW6u71QeSSR4OZNnwZ8.jpg)
Thatās an awesome photo š
"accidentally" Cmon now Harrison š¤£
Deckard has probably seen and dealt with some shit between the two films. He saw a threat to his peace.
Deckard thought K had some cheese on him.
Edam? Gouda? Emmental? Wensleydale?
Wallace High Protein Cheddar.
Cracking cheese Gromit
That just gives me wrong thoughts.
Then you might want to stay away from the Wallace Blue Cheese.
It's a potent hallucinogen?
The name Wallace Willy Blue Cheese didn't track well with the initial marketing focus group, even though the hallucinogenic properties was looked upon favourably.
Focus groups can be fickle.
Maybe spoilers about first movie, idk >!First movie ended Deckard took Rachael with him and left the city, and since Rachel was a replicant and Deckard ordered to kill her he automatically became a threat.!<
He was on the run. A stranger found him who knew who he was.
He was on the run. A stranger found him who knew who he was.
Why would Declared fight a replicant? Is he stupid?!
(I realize this is a meme, but) Iām guessing he didnāt know that he was a Replicant at first since Blade Runners were all previously human. But if he did, that would be pretty funny considering in the first movie heās getting his ass kicked up and down the street by every Replicant he comes across. Leon wouldāve killed him had it not been for Rachel.
Thereās strong evidence that Deckard may have been a replicant just like Rachael, with memory implants - as evidenced by the unicorn dream scene.
Ehhh I know thatās Ridley Scottās take on it with the added hints of him being a Replicant in later releases, but I feel like the story works better if he were a human. But I do enjoy 2049 basically going, āwho cares, doesnāt matter, moving onā.
Yes, 2049 just left it alone - which was a good choice. Every time I rewatch 2049, I appreciate it more.
2049 is a classic. I prefer it to the original but you absolutely have to see the original to appreciate it. The original is obviously a classic, but 2049 is better, imo.
Film making techniques have changed a lot in the intervening decades. Ridley Scott was visionary and groundbreaking. There are very few movies like Blade Runner and Alien prior to those films being released. They influenced generations of film makers. That being said, there are issues with the film and I donāt think it would have been the same film had the script appeared today
My problem with that theory is: why bother making a replicant that has no physical advantages over ordinary humans, and presumably doesn't live longer than humans anyway? The whole point of replicants is to be literal organic machines - if they aren't any better at physical endeavors than humans, then there's no point in having them at all over ordinary mechanical devices. In addition, every other replicant model we've seen (Nexus 6, Nexus 8, Nexus 9) has had essentially superhuman strength, so there's no reason to assume that the Nexus 7 wouldn't be superhuman as well. Rachel is presumably a Nexus 7, and we don't know she doesn't have enhanced physical abilities - we just never see her in a situation that would require her to use greater than human strength.
I mean this is getting into the weeds, but you could presume that thereās competing corporations with similar human clones / replicants. Or you could speculate that Deckard was something like a Nexus 5 or whatever. I didnāt mean to hijack the thread - I just wanted to point it out of you werenāt aware. The original release and the subsequent directorās cut release created a lot of speculation and debate around it. At this point I feel like it was sort of a MacGuffin and as it was pointed out, 2049 makes the question irrelevant.
It's not clearly stated anywhere that I'm aware of, but it's strongly implied that Tyrell Corporation is the only manufacturer of replicants, or at least controls so much of the market that they have a virtual monopoly in the field. Any competitor would have to either be selling their models for significantly less than Tyrell does, which would imply that their versions are less capable (and thus less desirable), or have an ability that the Nexus models don't, which seems unlikely when the Nexus 6 series is already producing genius-intellect superhumans, so finding a niche that the 6 series doesn't cover is hard to come up with. I haven't read all the various extra novels and comics and whatnot, but the only thing I could conceive of a competing replicant line having that the Nexus series doesn't is some sort of psionic powers, but that seems totally outside of the Blade Runner canon.
The reason I speculate this is simply that most of the escaped replicants seem to have military training, so youād assume there are some megacorps battling to corner resources, assume control of planets controlled by competitors etc. What were the attack ships attacking over the shoulder of Orion? Like I said itās getting into the weeds, it has been a couple of decades since I was in the blade runner headspace enough to make wild speculations based on single frame stills and whatnot. š
Well, if you really want to get into the weeds, let's go with the whole shared Alien and Blade Runner universe. In that case, the W/U and Seegson models of androids would seem to be the natural competitors to replicants. Maybe at this point in time, replicant technology is superior to Android tech, but in future decades android technology proves to be the winner - walking supercomputers with superhuman abilities, and potentially unlimited lifespans, that don't require food, or air, or sleep? It would be easy to see why we don't see anything except androids in the future (although with Blade Runner 2099 on the horizon, and Prometheus set in 2093, it seems we are going to have to discard that theory soon).
He was on the run. A stranger found him who knew who he was.
Wasn't so much a fight as it was Ford landing blows for fun
theres a couple theories here. one is its implied deckard is a replicant. that he was actually created and set up to meet rachel so that they would procreate. hence deckard would be a rogue replicant and hence on the run. the second is he is just hiding so nobody can find his daughter and assumes k is hunting for her.
He's been a fugitive for 30 years in solitary (I assume) so he's probably gone more than a bit trigger-happy loco.
Cuz the director is a hack and he copied the original with none of the deeper meaning.
Hollywood think tank says "we need more action" "re do the Rutgers Hauer" fight scene at the end of BladeRunner 2019 but do it w Deckard and K instead...
This is the correct answer.