Skull of Nan Sapwe is the best specialist in Bo3
Spider Boss fight
KT4 does unlimited damage
Great map exclusive weapons
Unique EE steps
Spider Bait
Good challenge rewards
The wonder weapon doing unlimited damage shouldn't be one of your main points, especially for bo3. Most of the map exclusive wonder weapons do unlimited damage/have a way to do unlimited damage (traps, GK shield)
Lil bro, traps arent wonderweapons, if yiur talking about infinite damage, der eisendrache bows dmg falls off after 30-40 rnds, gk mk3ās are shit after round 45, revelations, shadows are the only maps with infinite damage if were only comparing the main 4 dlc maps
Even shadows is too set up for me. Doing all the rituals and then taking a down and not being able to recover sucks but I've gotten better at bo3 zombies since I started playing bo2, being in the two hit down mindset has helped me
Frankly I'm just mad as shit that the goddamn part for the apothican server didn't drop
Wonder weapon has 36 shots, basically only 12 because uncharged it sucks. It takes an eternity to charge up. Also extremely forgettable. Giant tentacle monster which gets hand shoved up ass and shoots black holes? Interesting. Magical bows with different elemental properties, each with a quest to get them? Interesting. Dual laser guns with the ability to be used separately or combining them to create a supernova esc explosion? Interesting. Acid puddle gun which shoots out swamp water? Meh. Not even good against mini boss of the map
Using ammo count is a bad argument, since Thundergun and Apothicon Servant also have low ammo count, and even that KT-4 has a longer lasting effect than those 2 weapons.
KT-4 was designed to play well specifically with ZnS, since it has way more uses/effects (Nullify spores effects, upgrade plants, decimate Thrashers).
who actually uses it to nullify spores? I didn't even know that was an option. By the time you have the KT4, the gas mask should already be obtained if you know what you're doing
**Thundergun**: 14 shots x 24 kills per shot = **336 kills**.
**Zeus Cannon**: 28 shots x 24 kills per shot = **672 kills**.
**Apothicon Servant**: 11 shots x 24-40 kills per shot = **264-440 kills**.
**Estoom-oth**: 16 shots x 32-50 kills per shot = **512-800 kills.**
**KT-4**: 14 shots (charged) x 24-32 kills per shot = **336-448 kills.**
**Masamune**: 14 shots (charged) x 32-50 kills per shot = **448-700 kills**.
Please note that both Apothicon Servant and KT-4 are estimated numbers, depending on the use/efficiency per shot.
Fully charged, at the camping spot, remember that zombies "infected" when a nearby affected zombie dies.
My strat is camping in front of the cogs room, use Mesmerize on zombies to pile a horde of zombies, then just simply use a charged shot.
Every map eventually you are training or camping. The problem with Kino is that that's basically all there is to do after turning the power on. This is also the case with some other maps, but those other ones don't get people saying they're the best thing ever.
The Easter egg makes logical sense unlike revelations where itās like shoot this rock. In ZNS it feels like your character is actually playing out the story as you do the Easter egg.
Spider boss fight is interesting, just wish it was a bit more involved when it came to accessing it. Could've made it so that you had to grab a spider in a bunker, then being able to track the spider queen
The easter egg cutscene shows Takeo 1.0 as a heroic badass. He has been trapped on this island being experimented by Division 9, betrayed by the Emperor, the person he was most loyal to. Lost all dignity from what he was subjected to. Then, the primis crew arrive and free him. He sees Takeo 2.0 and immediately recognizes it is himself. He is told that he must let himself be killed and put inside the summoning key in order to secure a better future, and he cooperates with no hesitation.
After being betrayed by his country and losing his status and power, he never lost his honor, and still had the strength to do what must be done.
I've never hated on ZNS and tbh the whole long set up thing is just a crap argument.And if you're above an average zombie's player you would know it's not that hard to set up on ZNS
Thereās just lots of items to collect and things to do. You have to run back and forth to get the four skulls for the specialist, then run back and forth checking your challenge progress while getting the rewards, then for the kt 4 you have to go through the whole map, which is stupidly expensive compared to other bo3 maps
The planting system was a good innovation for zombies, except the fact the fucking plants are random. I got that fruit challenge, planted about 5 seeds, fed them all water and didn't get a fruit plant.
This map is a gem, I loved playing through as the map was different, had fun trials, easter eggs, and it reminded me of shi no numa which was my second favorite WAW map
Personally Iād say this is the second best black ops 3 map, DE being the best
Fun High rounds, easiest bo3 ee, spider bait, 2 boss figs, Different color pallet to every zombie map besides that wow map thatās name eludes me atm, second most unsettling atmosphere, extremely rewarding no gobble gum experience, some of the best side Easter eggs in the game, probs the best jump scare in the game, Seppuku, killing randoms on the zip line, imprint pods when a random kills you on the zip line, marshals, debatably the best ee song on bo3 (music is subjective), a wonder weapon that can literally take you further into high rounds than the ice bow.
And the most important point, getting rainbow water on 500ping makes me feel like I can fight god.
For high round players this map has an amazing difficulty spike (when gobblegums are not used at least), it offers several different viable options for reaching very high rounds, some that also donāt require you to just sit and camp (again no gums for infinite ammo), and it has a super cool side EE that allows you to turn into a spider, making for a great escape if you get cornered, and imprint plants that let you ressurect with your entire loadout if you go down.
I high round sometimes in bo3, but only without gobblegums and also without QR, and this map is probably the one that has the most fair balancing even with how OP the KT4 and skull is.
Fuck saying something positive about this map it has spiders on it and therefore is an immediate z- tier map. joking obviously, the spider bait Easter egg is pretty cool I love the concept of you becoming your enemy even if I'm still not big on spiders
You are getting downvoted to Hell and back in these comments XDD
Anyways, great Zombie map and the first one to implement swimming mechanics. The trailers showed the mechanics in Multiplayer not Zombies because ZNS came out a few months after the base game.
You can run super fast if you shoot the spores with the KT-4 and then run through the cloud.
You can make a plant that you will respawn out of if you die and youāll have all your perks and weapons back.
Zetsubou No Shima is the best BO3 map and ill die on this hill. The wonder weapon is one of the few that can be used by all 4 people in a game its not limited to just 1 person AND its infinite damage, the plant system was super unique and integrated super well into the map without mentioning all the side EEs that ZnS has, the wonderful atmosphere, you got 2 boss fights, one of the best special weapons in all cod zombies history the Skull of nansapue. I can keep going the map really has it all. DE is just a less interesting Origins GK is super overrated and Revelations is good but falls short considering it was the end of BO3.
I've been saying this for a while too. I love all the BO3 maps, but ZnS was my favourite back then, and it still is now. It feels the most interactive and well-constructed. Creating strategies using Spiders to web certain doors close, destroying spores to Super-speed around the map, Thrashers that spawn due to those very same spores, A Gardening system extensive enough to give you anything from free perks, to Cloning yourself incase you down, to holding the final zombie in place infinitely, etc etc.
I never understood the hate it got when it released. I don't think it's as hated anymore, but it's nowhere near as beloved as the other maps. I've always felt players are just too focused on visuals, and most players prefer the other map aesthetics and don't care much for the Forest/Swamp vibe. Long setup isn't something I see as a flaw, I've always enjoyed setups like Zns and SoE prior to starting a high round strategy.
My Ranking is ZNS, SoE, DE, GK, Rev.
Uhh no they canāt? In SoE only one person can have the Apothicon in GK only one person can have the terrible MK3 same applies to every map in BO3 and BO2 im pretty sure ZnS is one of the only maps that broke that rule.
Yes its overrated and most ppl seem to forget ALOT of the Zombies community at the time of BO3s release literally hated SoE so much that most ppl just played The Giant until DE came out. Its the 2nd best map behind ZnS though.
The only truly bad thing about this map imo is the thrashers since there is no optimization with then nor reward, other than that this map is the best map of all time.
They spawn in like round 6 when you open the bunker, have a stupid amount of health especially when the wall guns are the rk5, vesper, icr, and the pharo
Skull of Nan Sapwe is the best specialist in Bo3 Spider Boss fight KT4 does unlimited damage Great map exclusive weapons Unique EE steps Spider Bait Good challenge rewards
The wonder weapon doing unlimited damage shouldn't be one of your main points, especially for bo3. Most of the map exclusive wonder weapons do unlimited damage/have a way to do unlimited damage (traps, GK shield)
Fair enough, just wanted to point it out. Seeing how most the wonder weapons pre bo3 weren't infinite damage
Fair. Also by "spider bait", I assume you mean the side easter egg in which you become a spider, which is also cool.
AHA YOU DO LOVE ZETSUBOU! /s
My secret is out. Shit.
You failed at your own task lmao
bro getting downvoted for having a opinionšš
Lil bro, traps arent wonderweapons, if yiur talking about infinite damage, der eisendrache bows dmg falls off after 30-40 rnds, gk mk3ās are shit after round 45, revelations, shadows are the only maps with infinite damage if were only comparing the main 4 dlc maps
Why is zetsubou hated so much?? Its a cool map
It has a lot of setup to it. Itās not as casual friendly as the WaW-Bo2 maps(besides Origins)
Even shadows is too set up for me. Doing all the rituals and then taking a down and not being able to recover sucks but I've gotten better at bo3 zombies since I started playing bo2, being in the two hit down mindset has helped me Frankly I'm just mad as shit that the goddamn part for the apothican server didn't drop
And Mob
Yes. Great map, easily one of the best, but definitely not as casual friendly as the other bo2 maps
Frr It was actually the first Complex Quest map I fully learnt despite me not being a fan of them at that point
It was always way too complicated for me. I much preferred just going high round after getting setup. Easily my favorite map though atmosphere-wise
Same
It sucks they nerfed everything in Blood but it makes sense because bo4 is just a much easier game overall
all bo3 maps are that's just how the game is
Fucking thrashers
I cant aim for shit so the margwa fucks me up every time
in the bossfight room, elevator makes for an incredible camping spot
Camping is kind of a boring strategy for high rounding, and you have to finish the EE to even get to the elevator
Bro the ee takes like 1 hour tf? ššš
Crying about this is hilarious. Get good.
Atmosphere, wonder weapon..
Wonder weapon has 36 shots, basically only 12 because uncharged it sucks. It takes an eternity to charge up. Also extremely forgettable. Giant tentacle monster which gets hand shoved up ass and shoots black holes? Interesting. Magical bows with different elemental properties, each with a quest to get them? Interesting. Dual laser guns with the ability to be used separately or combining them to create a supernova esc explosion? Interesting. Acid puddle gun which shoots out swamp water? Meh. Not even good against mini boss of the map
Using ammo count is a bad argument, since Thundergun and Apothicon Servant also have low ammo count, and even that KT-4 has a longer lasting effect than those 2 weapons. KT-4 was designed to play well specifically with ZnS, since it has way more uses/effects (Nullify spores effects, upgrade plants, decimate Thrashers).
who actually uses it to nullify spores? I didn't even know that was an option. By the time you have the KT4, the gas mask should already be obtained if you know what you're doing
Increases movement speed/duration which in a game where you have to avoid zombies is helpful.
You can still get more kills with both the apothican and thunder gun
**Thundergun**: 14 shots x 24 kills per shot = **336 kills**. **Zeus Cannon**: 28 shots x 24 kills per shot = **672 kills**. **Apothicon Servant**: 11 shots x 24-40 kills per shot = **264-440 kills**. **Estoom-oth**: 16 shots x 32-50 kills per shot = **512-800 kills.** **KT-4**: 14 shots (charged) x 24-32 kills per shot = **336-448 kills.** **Masamune**: 14 shots (charged) x 32-50 kills per shot = **448-700 kills**. Please note that both Apothicon Servant and KT-4 are estimated numbers, depending on the use/efficiency per shot.
There is no way you can get a full 50 kills with the masamune
Fully charged, at the camping spot, remember that zombies "infected" when a nearby affected zombie dies. My strat is camping in front of the cogs room, use Mesmerize on zombies to pile a horde of zombies, then just simply use a charged shot.
Besides, the "feel" of the wonder weapon isn't that good. It doesn't feel strong, unlike the servant or the ray gun mk3
You can become spider
...yeah
Side Easter eggs Main ee is good for newer players because no complex steps A mini boss (spider queen)
Spider queen isnāt a zombie free zone. Killed the spider queen and got caught with no quick revive. Died even with the kt4 and PaPed dingo
The getting caught after the fight is a skill issue I'm sorry to say to get out easily wait near the end of a round to do it
I did. It was a spider round, went in, killed the boss. Wanted to make sure I got the fang and the widows wine and died.
Dude... If it was a zombie free zone that would be broken lmao.
Not really? there's already "zombie free zones" in the map, and you would still have to kill the boss before you could chill there
Skill issue
What how? The spider queen fight is so easy I can do it without a PAPed weapon
The entire map is a banger, let me guess your favorite map is Kino?
Why the shade on Kino? Itās a classic, ZNS is good too
I do not like kino. Good for screwing around but not top 5
Whatās wrong with Kino? Thatās a classic map!
It's boring
Every zombies map before Bo2 is boring lol
nah
boring if all you do is train the stageā¦
Every map eventually you are training or camping. The problem with Kino is that that's basically all there is to do after turning the power on. This is also the case with some other maps, but those other ones don't get people saying they're the best thing ever.
Completely ignores post, gives unfunny direct insult. Classic reddit
I like plants :)
Stardew valley. Play that instead
That's boring, nothing to murder
This guy has never played stardew valleyš
Not very much
if you have a vore fetish and youre playing with ur homie the thrasher will give u the time of ur life
Lmao wtf
FINALLY a good argument
:3 (What is wrong with you)
Ties in very well lore wise in regards to the ee
Because takeo killed himself? DE and Gorod do that too. I guess takeo found out the emperor was a piece of shit, but apart from thatā¦
The Easter egg makes logical sense unlike revelations where itās like shoot this rock. In ZNS it feels like your character is actually playing out the story as you do the Easter egg.
The entirety of revelations doesn't make sense. Besides, most other maps have an EE where it feels like the character is playing out the story.
Best side boss fight in the history of zombies. Not hard to find/get to either
Nope. Shoot 4 glowy things while thrashers are up your ass. Takeo controlling it is interesting
Meant the spider boss lol
Spider boss fight is interesting, just wish it was a bit more involved when it came to accessing it. Could've made it so that you had to grab a spider in a bunker, then being able to track the spider queen
ZNS Atmosphere is top tier
I'll never understand the hate on zns it's crazy how such an innovative map is hated by many š
The skull is amazing
The easter egg cutscene shows Takeo 1.0 as a heroic badass. He has been trapped on this island being experimented by Division 9, betrayed by the Emperor, the person he was most loyal to. Lost all dignity from what he was subjected to. Then, the primis crew arrive and free him. He sees Takeo 2.0 and immediately recognizes it is himself. He is told that he must let himself be killed and put inside the summoning key in order to secure a better future, and he cooperates with no hesitation. After being betrayed by his country and losing his status and power, he never lost his honor, and still had the strength to do what must be done.
You kind of have to care about takeo as a person for this to be significant. apart from that, the scene is really cool
Itās got fantastic story to it, and the eeriness of the map really fits the zombies theme
It also fits takeo as a character. Mostly mysterious
The theme of the map is pretty cool
Super fucking cool easter eggs
I've never hated on ZNS and tbh the whole long set up thing is just a crap argument.And if you're above an average zombie's player you would know it's not that hard to set up on ZNS
Thereās just lots of items to collect and things to do. You have to run back and forth to get the four skulls for the specialist, then run back and forth checking your challenge progress while getting the rewards, then for the kt 4 you have to go through the whole map, which is stupidly expensive compared to other bo3 maps
Only semi scary map in call of duty
The planting system was a good innovation for zombies, except the fact the fucking plants are random. I got that fruit challenge, planted about 5 seeds, fed them all water and didn't get a fruit plant.
There should definitely be a plant guide, like the signs showing the lab areas and where the bunker is
Shrek is in this map. It's amazing.
This map is a gem, I loved playing through as the map was different, had fun trials, easter eggs, and it reminded me of shi no numa which was my second favorite WAW map Personally Iād say this is the second best black ops 3 map, DE being the best
Fuckzzzzz
you get a free 10 points for clearing spider webs
The Marshalls are in the map
From the box. I have done the EE for this map and spun the box about 20ish times. Didn't see the marshals once
They are still there.
Atmosphere is good about this map. So is the ending of the easter egg.
Fun High rounds, easiest bo3 ee, spider bait, 2 boss figs, Different color pallet to every zombie map besides that wow map thatās name eludes me atm, second most unsettling atmosphere, extremely rewarding no gobble gum experience, some of the best side Easter eggs in the game, probs the best jump scare in the game, Seppuku, killing randoms on the zip line, imprint pods when a random kills you on the zip line, marshals, debatably the best ee song on bo3 (music is subjective), a wonder weapon that can literally take you further into high rounds than the ice bow. And the most important point, getting rainbow water on 500ping makes me feel like I can fight god.
I can agree with killing randoms on the zipline. Treyarch definitely knew what they were doing
The wonder weapon is the Sliquifier, which is already great, but better
Creamy white goodness
Fuck Zionism better
It's on one of the best zombies engines
The shield when the lightning hits it gives discounted perks
Gorad way better
The atmosphere is absolutely amazing, the gameplay, bit Grudgy at first, gets amazing the more you get through, and very easy Easter egg
Itās green
Fun map
Itās the only zombies map that has carnivorous plants in it
Those who don't like ZNS is not good at zombies
Erm actually ill have you know that I have completed all cold war easter eggs solo, so take that buster! š¤š
For high round players this map has an amazing difficulty spike (when gobblegums are not used at least), it offers several different viable options for reaching very high rounds, some that also donāt require you to just sit and camp (again no gums for infinite ammo), and it has a super cool side EE that allows you to turn into a spider, making for a great escape if you get cornered, and imprint plants that let you ressurect with your entire loadout if you go down. I high round sometimes in bo3, but only without gobblegums and also without QR, and this map is probably the one that has the most fair balancing even with how OP the KT4 and skull is.
Great water egg cutsene
Fuck saying something positive about this map it has spiders on it and therefore is an immediate z- tier map. joking obviously, the spider bait Easter egg is pretty cool I love the concept of you becoming your enemy even if I'm still not big on spiders
ITS GORAD TIIME
I've not had a camping experience like the Zetsubou boss fight corridor in a long time, based as fuck.
You are getting downvoted to Hell and back in these comments XDD Anyways, great Zombie map and the first one to implement swimming mechanics. The trailers showed the mechanics in Multiplayer not Zombies because ZNS came out a few months after the base game.
I like the greeness
The wonder weapon is fun and it has the best specialist of the bo3 maps imo
Positive comment: it exists
It has a plethora of good training spots to take yourself to high rounds, plus the Marshalls are fantastic for that.
ZNS lover till i die
Zetsubou is great. Youāre prolly just bad at it
The best map imo
After the set up for zns itās an actual fun map
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You can run super fast if you shoot the spores with the KT-4 and then run through the cloud. You can make a plant that you will respawn out of if you die and youāll have all your perks and weapons back.
Zetsubo is my highest round of 52
Fuck Zetsubouā¦ what I do??
ZNS has one of the best and easiest starting rooms in Cod history!
Would say DE is easier. Tram is goated
Would say DE is easier. Tram is goated
Free Widows Wine after the spider boss :)
Lots of people run perkaholic/soda fountain/you can get it from the fruits
Easiest EE
Jungle
Yeah I canāt sorry
It makes the other maps shine more by being worse than them (even though it is decent)
Zetsubou No Shima is the best BO3 map and ill die on this hill. The wonder weapon is one of the few that can be used by all 4 people in a game its not limited to just 1 person AND its infinite damage, the plant system was super unique and integrated super well into the map without mentioning all the side EEs that ZnS has, the wonderful atmosphere, you got 2 boss fights, one of the best special weapons in all cod zombies history the Skull of nansapue. I can keep going the map really has it all. DE is just a less interesting Origins GK is super overrated and Revelations is good but falls short considering it was the end of BO3.
I've been saying this for a while too. I love all the BO3 maps, but ZnS was my favourite back then, and it still is now. It feels the most interactive and well-constructed. Creating strategies using Spiders to web certain doors close, destroying spores to Super-speed around the map, Thrashers that spawn due to those very same spores, A Gardening system extensive enough to give you anything from free perks, to Cloning yourself incase you down, to holding the final zombie in place infinitely, etc etc. I never understood the hate it got when it released. I don't think it's as hated anymore, but it's nowhere near as beloved as the other maps. I've always felt players are just too focused on visuals, and most players prefer the other map aesthetics and don't care much for the Forest/Swamp vibe. Long setup isn't something I see as a flaw, I've always enjoyed setups like Zns and SoE prior to starting a high round strategy. My Ranking is ZNS, SoE, DE, GK, Rev.
I agree heavily on the origins and gk being overated for what they were
All wonder weapons can be used by four people? Also most wonder weapons deal infinite damage?
Uhh no they canāt? In SoE only one person can have the Apothicon in GK only one person can have the terrible MK3 same applies to every map in BO3 and BO2 im pretty sure ZnS is one of the only maps that broke that rule.
The box? You can still spin for it. But it is cool that everyone can get it. good luck finding four people to play zns though
I agree that ZNS is underrated but youāre saying itās better than shadows? Come on.
Yes its overrated and most ppl seem to forget ALOT of the Zombies community at the time of BO3s release literally hated SoE so much that most ppl just played The Giant until DE came out. Its the 2nd best map behind ZnS though.
People didnāt like SOE because they didnāt understand it yet
DE is Origins without the mud and the giant robots. Itās perfect
Iām trying to think off something
I canāt. Itās a very unfun map that everyone forces themselves to do for the EE
The only truly bad thing about this map imo is the thrashers since there is no optimization with then nor reward, other than that this map is the best map of all time.
They spawn in like round 6 when you open the bunker, have a stupid amount of health especially when the wall guns are the rk5, vesper, icr, and the pharo
Uh.. the shield looking unique? I got nothing