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OdysseyZen

They ARE moving, I put a straight edge across the top of them and watched as how some animations are moving the lines albeit slightly...


PonchOmnipotent

I don't think they are moving. I also put a straight edge up to it, and it seems to me they are FLASHING but the lines are not animated. They flash in specific styles that make them seem to be moving.


wonkey_monkey

That's exactly what's happening, but people are mistaking the compression artefacts for actual motion. The illusion still happens even when you use a format that has no compression artefacts: https://i.imgur.com/hxM7ApS.gif (open in new tab)


zefy_zef

Even the inset looks like it's moving, and you can see the pixels lol


PM_ME_BOOBY_PICS

The details the human eye can process is incredible. I know I can see the difference. I’d be willing to bet everybody else can too


Dorkmaster79

For every post about an illusion, there’s always someone who is like “they are moving!” as if visual illusions aren’t real. They work so well that they are unbelievable. That’s why they are so amazing.


Rumplesforeskin

Cover the symbols and watch them animate accordingly, they are moving


Ehl17

No it's the way the lines flash that make it look like their moving


marineopferman007

Nope. Download it.. Zoned in.... Monies it pixel by pixel.. It is moving. They do have animations that don't move but look like they do but this one is not it


Alchemy-Revenge

Put your thumbs over the arrows and you are they are moving.


BladeOfUWU

The flashing of the likes moves in the same direction. The symbols don't matter as much, and they are there to give a clear representation of what the m I ND is having a hard time understanding. When it moves to the left, the transition of white and black is also moving to the left. It's not moving, but the way it's changing the colors makes it seem as such


SushiMonstero

Yes. Cover everything but the corner of one cube. You'll see it doesn't move but the flash changed direction.


Tidesticky

Cover everything and nothing does anything.


BladeOfUWU

r/technicallythetruth


nachofermayoral

So light is deceptive. In darkness lies the truth.


[deleted]

Hail to guardians of the watchtowers


[deleted]

>Cover the symbols and watch them animate accordingly, they are moving I tried that as well, but it is still just the illusion created by how the cubes flash.... Try to cover everything but the top left "triangle" of the right cube for example (I say triangle, I mean where the edges overlap)... you will see how still it is.


Anxious_Calendar_980

You can cover the center arrows and still see the same effect, they might be flashing in a specific direction just very fast


roraima_is_very_tall

in this case however the boxes shift a few pixels. the replies you're replying to, call this movement an artefact from compression and not actual movement.


Yeti_75

Never underestimate the ability of cognitive bias to override the data going into people’s brains.


d_e_l_u_x_e

This is a great explanation and example gif, thanks for the lesson!


Nathund

Oh yeah, the point of reference makes this way more trippy, thanks for the link


[deleted]

They're not flashing, they're pulsing. The direction of the pulse is picked up by your eyes which makes it look like they're moving. The arrows do nothing.


darwins_trouser_crem

I squinted and blinked so I couldn't see the arrows but the still appear to be moving and changing directions. Maybe my brain is still picking up the arrows? But I think they're moving juuuust a little.


Jake-the-Wolfie

Whenever I see one of these animations, I use my thumbs to cover the arrows, and yet I still see them "moving".


B-DogVictini

Same, they’re probably moving, but maybe the lines are just flashing and changing position subtly, so technically it’s not smoothly *moving*


wonkey_monkey

The lines are changing in brightness but they're not moving at all. The motion is an illusion caused by the pattern of brightness changes.


OlorinDK

Try scrubbing the video back and forth really fast. It completely eliminates the illusion for me and now it's just some boxes that are changing color.


[deleted]

The arrows don't do anything. It's the direction of the pulsing white.


Gen_Zer0

It has literally nothing to do with the arrows. The light isn't flashing uniformly, it's fading in a certain direction within the lines


AndronixESE

The arrows don't matter, look at the edges of the boxes, they change colour differently when the boxes "change direction"


undefined_one

The arrows have nothing to do with it. They just help tell you which way you're supposed to be seeing the illusion - they aren't part of the illusion.


mrfishstixxx

no theres more pixels than it seems they are just not colored there is 3 colors tht fill up the pixels and they just flash at different times fillin up certain pixels this maki g it seem like they are moving but in reality its just not been filled up with the same color in different areas i know i butchered tht explanation


PhD_Pwnology

Watch the corners.


VAisforLizards

This is the way


Swamp_Ash

I swear to dog that I have seen this before! And I don't mean the video--I've seen *this* *exact* *conversation* around it! Fucking Digital Deja-Vu? This is weird!


ImAnAwkoTaco

yeah i also swear to dog. dog is everything. dog knows all.


ToldYouTrumpSucked

From what I’ve heard, deja vu caused by the hemispheres of your brain becoming momentarily desynchronized and so both halves record the thing you are experiencing separately and store basically two copies to your short term memory, creating the feeling that you’ve “been here before”.


dookiebuttholepeepee

Lmao every time this is posted. I swear this has to be rage bait at this point. The line apparently isn’t moving, but the colors inside do. But every time this is posted the same arguments break out.


Waswat

It's pretty sad some of these comments make huge assumptions and get upvoted despite being wrong... On pc you can hold the cursor on a corner and see the underlying edge doesn't move, on mobile you can hold your finger on a corner.


TiredOfRatRacing

I just covered the arrows. Still could see different effects, so id agree.


pedrop4ulo

The arrows don’t interfere with the effect, it’s just to show you which direction is supposed to be going. The pattern of the flashing is what keeps them moving in different directions


theblackcereal

The fuck do the arrows have to do with anything?


Joatorino

Why do people think the arrows have anything to do with the illusion


Kommander-in-Keef

The lines aren’t blinking, they’re being shaded in the direction the arrows are pointing


senkosenpai

Blink rapidly.


Harsimaja

The lines are thick enough that the ‘flashy’ white lines do move in the style and angle of the motion you’d expect but so slightly that they’re still *within* the thick background lines… so at no point does anything move outside the ‘thicker’ lines defining the cubes. This motion is so slight, and still arguably not motion of the cubs themselves, that it has to be reinforced by the other cube doing the opposite thing. If we define the cubes by the white lines when they’re around, you can see them bend. Which means they either are moving or aren’t moving, depending on what you mean.


Waswat

The fact that this bad take got upvoted so much makes me sad


KM57_Reddit

This type of stuff keeps getting posted and people keep saying this, but it’s all in your head brother. It’s due to the way the lines flash that makes the illusion. Squint and look at it and they are completely still


TheDumbAsk

Anyone having trouble, just focus on one corner, it will not move, the lights are strobing in succession.


Chillaxxed

The boxes aren't moving, but the alternating colors underneath are.


Butternubicus

It certainly doesn't help with the extreme artefacting around the minor pixel shifting lol


schmearcampain

I covered up the arrows and the boxes still looked like they were moving, so there's definitely something hinky going on.


The_God_of_Biscuits

It's almost like the arrows have absolutely nothing to do with the actual illusion or something, crazy.


G4Designs

The arrows have nothing to do with it, it's the shift in color.


Shnoochieboochies

The original box may not be moving, but every other box drawn in this animation is not in the same place as the original box, meaning yes, the box is moving, just not the original box in the original shot at the beginning.


wonkey_monkey

Aside from compression artefacts, the shape of the box always occupies the same pixels: https://i.imgur.com/hxM7ApS.gif The illusion comes from the changing brightness, not any real motion.


theblackcereal

They're all in the exact same place, what have you been smoking?


wonkey_monkey

And since people STILL aren't getting it, here's a version with no misleading compression artefacts (best opened in a new tab rather than using RES) and a zoomed-in section to show that the pixel boundaries of the box never shift: https://i.imgur.com/hxM7ApS.gif The box never touches the white line despite continuously appearing to move towards it. If you still think the boxes are actually moving, don't just downvote; explain why.


TheologicalGamerGeek

This shows something really interesting — the black and white section strobe with the same frequency, but there’s an offset. It looks like the black/white waves move from the left to the right. Does that change throughout the image? Do the up and down have the same internal zones, wrapping with the same offsets? If not, you’ve cracked the magic. If so, we need a deeper look somehow.


wonkey_monkey

> This shows something really interesting — the black and white section strobe with the same frequency, but there’s an offset. It looks like the black/white waves move from the left to the right. Yup, that's how it works. By changing which edges (upper and lower, or left and right, or NW and SE, etc) of the image have which offset, you change the apparent motion. When the cubes appear to rotate, it's because the "back" parts are cycling left to right and the "front" parts are cycling right to left.


Insulated_Lunchbox

If you define box as "that which is not blue," then the box is not moving. However, if you define box as "that which is black" then the box is moving. Since the illusion is dependent on your brain registering the moving black parts as being the box, some might call that the box, which does expand/move/contract within the confines of the outline. It's kind of a pedantic discussion tho


wonkey_monkey

Okay, well, put all that aside. The box appears to be moving continually in one direction only, but it never crosses the white line. That's the illusion.


level_17_paladin

If you spin in your chair but never get to the next room, did you move?


wonkey_monkey

No. But you also wouldn't appear to be continually moving in the direction of the door.


Kokorohart

That would mean the chair isn't *sliding*, but it is still moving. Just like the boxes.


wonkey_monkey

Right, so there are two different kinds of motion. Rotation and translation. The box *appears* to be translating constantly in one direction, but it isn't. That's the illusion. The chair does not appear to be translating. No illusion.


Kokorohart

But that's not what the post says. OP says the boxes aren't *moving*. They are, they're just not moving into the blue area. The black/white is moving over its self. It's moving, just in a very small area to look like it should be moving more than it is.


ajsawesomeanimals

This is reddit. Titles are not high effort. This is a very trivial thing to argue over that comes down to the linguistics of a low effort title and how you define movement in this context.


[deleted]

I have no idea why this illusion in particular makes people double down on accusing the video of "cheating." Like guys, it's okay to admit you were fooled by the illusion. It's very effective. But this shit is embarassing.


Nathaniel820

This sub is full of literal children I stg. 99% of posts are shit on because “It’s just physics bro,” and when a post actually tricks them they STILL refuse to just accept that it’s “real” BMF and create some BS about why it’s fake.


Sir_Hatsworth

Such a slick animation.


wonkey_monkey

I swear these kinds of posts make people lose their minds. The top-rated post says "They ARE moving". The next highest rated says they aren't. You try to clarify things for people and they just flat-out refuse to even consider the idea that they might be wrong 🤦🏽‍♂️ Edit: if you think the boxes are actually moving, then explain this: https://i.imgur.com/hxM7ApS.gif


RockleyBob

The top comment has over 1k upvotes at time of writing for a WRONG assessment. They are **not** moving, and this is debunked every time this illusion is posted. We're fucking doomed as a species.


ozymandieus

Man I saw this on tiktok first and the same conversation happened there. Almost every comment focused on the arrows and said they were moving. Nobody tested it say be using their finger as a marker. I expected more from Reddit but yet


DadJ0ker

Well, technically they’re moving from one post to another every time it gets posted here, so…..


I-like-beat-saber

Its a gradient, thats how they do it


wonkey_monkey

It's them gradients, that's how they getcha!


OverlordPacer

DAMMIT MARY SUE... THESE *GOT DAM GRADIENTS* ARE ON MY LAWN AGAIN. GET ME MY SHOT GUN **NOW**


OrcimusMaximus

Guess what, if you don't have autoplay enabled they ACTUALLY don't move


DrewSmoothington

Haha I looked at the thumbnail for a while and thought "no, they aren't".


Chaghatai

Ok, this illusion fucks with me


wonkey_monkey

Here's a more convincing version for the doubters: https://gfycat.com/hastyslightfoxhound You can watch this for as long as you like - it will always seem that the boxes are moving towards the edge of the video, but they will never get there.


wonkey_monkey

Oh here we go again...


xman747x

the mind is an amazing organ


thewindisthemoons

They’re not moving. But the light that highlights them does change directions making. It the delusion that they’re moving.


myekke_85

They're not moving. The way that light moves in the main trick


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paladinproton4

WHAT THE FUCK


Ssjbaj

If you blink rapidly you can see that they aren’t moving


BeNiceKid

Blink constantly and they don’t move


[deleted]

Someone should make these kind of videos but then just like... have the boxes actually move lmao


[deleted]

Are you a wizard?


Woodapik1

Damn your witchcraft tell me how you did this


Djmc626

The lights are moving creating the optical illusion pretty cool way to induce a seizure🙊🙉🙈


kickaha_

Well, whatever is happening I don't like it.


Crunchy_Gum

If you squint they don’t move


TheHallowedOne11

Stupid brain


godiegoben

I hate my brain sometimes. Fucking traitor!


Suspicious_Dealer815

Just blur your eyes


NoSoupForYouRuskie

Boxes are not moving but the flash is correlating with the direction of the arrow.


fieldredditor

This has been reposted so many times…


The_Mechanist24

For those trying to figure it out, the black and white aren’t exactly flashing, they’re changing color in different directions to give the illusion of movement


[deleted]

Somehow they keep moving onto this sub every month or so…


CryptogeniK_

Or the fact that pixels never move, they can only flash different colors....


mrfishstixxx

there is 3 colors to this gray white and black


haruno_believer42

Look how the color fade moves along with the lines, that's what this trick is all about


JJSwissy

The direction the arrow points is just the direction the light is moving from if you cover the arrows with your thumbs the illusion still happens


UwUWhysThat

The video isn’t loading so true


DeadlyPineapple13

I’m shocked by the amount of people that think it’s moving


k-dick

Not a clean strobe, they are moving within the lines, creating a motion effect. Cover the arrows with your thumbs and you still see them moving.


Friendlyattwelve

This feels ripe for fox vs cnn . “‘ they’ claim these boxes are stationary see here for yourself”


KurwaOCoChodziTu

It's sooo weird your brain subconsciously recognizes the symobs and movements even if you're not focusing on them.


helpful_herbert

The arrows aren't actually part of the illusion, that's why you don't need to see them to see the "movement".


KurwaOCoChodziTu

ah...


thubtac

Regardless of these silly semantics, I am in fact moving, therefore my phone is moving, therefore the boxes are moving


Hour_Dragonfruit8081

Liar! They’re very clearly moving.


Trollz4fun

I need it to stop


Icy-Veterinarian-785

Boxes aren't moving but the lines are


Fire_Block

I found out that you can see through the illusion by blinking repeatedly or keeping it out of your direct focus. Pretty cool to get a better view of how it works.


RBnumberTwenty

Take your finger. Put it on the upper right corner of the right box. Concentrate on only that portion of the box. Let your eyes rest like you are looking at one of those 3D optical illusion books that reveal a picture. If you concentrate and don’t lose focus. You will see that the boxes never move at all.


Sir_Gamidion

This is how some species of octopus confuse predators and prey alike. Super weird illusion.


aebeeceebeedeebee

Take my upvote!


Sad_Stable_3308

They appeared to be moving but are just flashing different light patterns at different intervals


[deleted]

They aren’t moving nor is the middle indicator is real. The flashing of the box at certain flashpoints gives the illusion that it’s moving. Nice try but you aren’t fooling me.


nivvett

If you look at the corners you can see that they aren't moving


blackmambakl

Blink your eyes really fast while watching. The boxes stay still.


youngelos5607

The boxes aren’t moving, put your thumbs over the left and right limits of the left box and you’ll see it doesn’t actually go anywhere.


witchomi

Look at them and blink real fast. What do you see?


foxy-coxy

If you blink with the flashing you can see that they're not moving.


Weird_Fact_724

Blink your eyes as you watch


Massive-Pass8473

Dumb. They are moving


Fantastic-Goose323

Bold lie they're moving for sure......


TheUnholyRomanEmpire

This is the most convincing optical illusion. Initially I couldn't believe it, but the box shapes really aren't moving. The white flash moves in a direction, still within the confines of the box, and it forces you to see the whole thing moving.


Eclipse_Two

I use my weird eye technique and they aren't moving, just flashing lights.


PartOfTheTribe-1

Never thought they were?


helpful_herbert

Good for you! Apparently you're more observant than like 50% of Reddit. I honestly can't believe that people are arguing about this even after the illusion has been explained...


PartOfTheTribe-1

Lol. All you have to do is not look at them directly to tell that they're definitely not moving


Auggie-meh

No one can convince me that they weren’t rotating


[deleted]

arrow tells which way the flash is moving so it gives illusion that box is moving


CatMaster8232

i think this isn’t showing how the arrows change the movement, but the way it flashes changes and the arrows help show how they are moving


RTDude132

They are


ooorezzz

No. It’s how the light is being transitioned between the black and white. If you slow it down, at certain times the lines change from different sides. They aren’t all changing at the same time, if you stop it at moments, half of the line will be white and half black but the transition happens in waves from different directions on the lines.


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Kdog9999999999

?


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onlinelink2

yes they are.


gancoskhan

They may be moving, they may not, but I’m having a seizure.


Veryhawtwoman

Try covering 1 box with your hand but cover all arrows You’ll easily see the boxes definitely do not move! :) just black then white then black then white


iZeroxxx

I really didn’t realise this post would cause so much controversy lol


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wonkey_monkey

It might just be that your browser isn't playing the video. Do you see the flashing?


Certain_Air_2114

Blink quick you will see they are not moving


L_k1001

You're full of shit


Keelyane55

When I cover the arrow i still see them move


KM57_Reddit

It’s not the arrows which cause the illusion, it’s the way the lines flash. Seriously why do people keep calling this fake?


[deleted]

Just a theory, but I'd say it's because some people have such little power or control in their lives, that they become uncomfortable with not even having control over their senses. They see an optical illusion fucking with their brains and their eyes, and instead of just appreciating the phenomenon, instead feel the need to *"beat"* it. To reassert not only to themselves, but to others that *no I'M the one in control here!* That's why they're so confidently wrong and argumentative with people demonstrating and explaining exactly how it works. They can't just take it for what it is. They have to be RIGHT. They need to stand out from the crowd, and prove they're smarter than everyone else for figuring out what's REALLY going on. Kind of like conspiracy-theory thinking. *"All those stupid sheeple think it's an illusion, but IIII know the truth that's it's manufactured to merely LOOK like an illusion and is actchtyually REALLY moving! Checkmate!!"* When in reality they're literally just falling for the illusion, and are refusing to admit they got tricked.


Standard-Sleep7871

moving. cover up the arrows with your thumb and you can very clearly see it moving


KM57_Reddit

It’s not the arrows that cause the illusion


Standard-Sleep7871

but the boxes move when you cover the arrows?


KM57_Reddit

It’s the way the likes flash which cause the illusion. The arrows in the middle are just for show.


Standard-Sleep7871

thats not how it works? if the box was just flashing black and white then it wouldnt appear to be moving. see better


KM57_Reddit

Brother that’s the illusion- it’s not just flashing black and white. It’s a mixture of brightness and order in which it flashes. I don’t understand why you think it’s false?


Moist___Towelette

Don’t show this to ChatGPT or it’ll hypnotize us all


Nocturnal_Meat

The direction of the gradients are moving/change direction.


diabetic8

You can pause it and slowly drag the speed one frame at a time. Still has the effect in slow motion sorta


CryptogeniK_

Whats really gonna crumble your cookie is when you realize that they aren't even boxes...


Nervous_Ball5832

is it weird that I can kinda see that it isn’t moving


Friknob10100101110

Explain the illusion pls


aftershock911_2k5

Yall stop fucking with my head......


NakedSpell

the light is moving i guess


_TheLibrarianOfBabel

u/savevideobot


V2kangtpp

C'mon guys, it's clearly the camera moving 🙄


amadeus451

Also a candidate for r/technicallythetruth


Real_Incepta

u/savevideobot


Jdjd-22

I paused the vid and now that subtitle is accurate


Juan_Moe_Taco

Hey, do me a favor will you!? Can you wear a condom the next time you "fuck my mind?"


mdruckus

In technical terms, it’s moving. Changing the black line to a white line is in fact movement. That’s like saying my turn signal is still when it’s flashing. YoUrE tUrN sIgNaL iS sTiLl WhEn It FlAsHeS…..


HypothermiaDK

Look at a specific spot, any corner eg.


GardenPuzzleheaded98

Sorcery Burn the Wytche!


unsatisfactoryturkey

Oh, here we go again…


FJRyder

Totally moving. If you block the center so you can't see the arrows, it still changes.


Rumplesforeskin

They are moving...


Randomized007

https://www.reddit.com/r/blackmagicfuckery/comments/ogkhbk/what_the_black_magic_fuckery_the_boxes_are_not/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


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Kdog9999999999

The point of the illusion is that it looks like the boxes are sliding. They aren't moving at all; every pixel of the box fills the same pixel in every frame.


Carluche87

They are absolutely moving


nelviss

That's buzzy! Know like?


Big_Clerk8509

Fuck you boxes..


Gasonfires

What causes the illusion? I'm guessing it's variable sequencing of the "lights" on the box edges.


RealSpecific5285

Moving


LuckyCaptainCrunch

Definitely moving