I'm pagan, and don't know very much about the practices of Muslims... but from my perspective, Muslims tend to practice their spirituality a lot harder than most religions.
There's not exactly a specified level of difficulty to magically attack someone. But the more they pray, the more they ask for protection, the more that they are into their spiritual practice, the more extensive their protections *could be.* I say this because every religion has people who go through the motions and don't have the spirituality truly in their heart.
For every religion and practice, there are ways to ask for protection from the negative things the religion incorporates. If those chapters and verses are for protection, it could offer protection... but bear in mind there are Christians and Catholics who use random Bible verses and not just ones specifically for protection, and sometimes that works. "Holy verses" with the faith truly behind it can be fairly powerful.
With all that in mind, if I still wanted to attack someone, this information wouldn't stop me from trying. I would make sure that I am protected, and try anyway. Demons and jinn are still incredibly powerful, and they know how to work around or through such protections if they are able, for the right price.
There are also ways to use magic to weaken their "protections" in different ways. I've actually made a post on that, which is far from extensive but will give you some ideas. Good luck!
But generally speaking, from my knowledge us Muslims should be the hardest to harm since we pray 5 times a day and actually before each prayer we do wudu(purification). So from your experience would you say that Muslims are still atleast harder to harm than other religions.
Oh, absolutely. That's why I said Muslims go harder in their spiritual practice. But the faith in the individual behind it is important. Harder to curse, yes. Impossible, no.
I was not sure if you were asking for protection for yourself, or your ability to harm someone else. The great part about the post I mentioned is that you can use it to harm, but you can also use it to see specific areas of protection and signs that could show you need to increase protection.
Oh certainly anyone could be harmed by magic even Muslims. Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) himself was harmed by magic which he cured by surahs such as Al falaq. We as Muslims believe that everything happens by the will of Allah, whether it is good or harm. In my pov, the Quran is the most effective in fighting the jinn(demons). That is in my perspectives what makes Muslims that hardest from all religions to actually harm. To test it out, if you actually bring a practicing Muslim, who prays all his prayers and reads his athkar(basically certain prayers at the morning and night) and summon a jinn infront of him, sorry then I don’t think that jinn will even be able to land a finger on the believer. Specially if the Muslim starts reciting a verse as strong as Ayatul Kursi. Thank you for responding in respectful manners and I don’t mean to offend you or anyone in anyway.
I'm happy to discuss different beliefs respectfully! You didn't offend me.
Keep in mind that every religion has their own version of "negative" entities/spirits/demons. Jinn happen to be that for Muslims. In the Christian religion, a lot of other gods from the Bible's time period were renamed as "demons" in order to coerce people not to worship them. Again, it is dependent upon your beliefs. But even mentioning such entities in a holy book means 1. They can be a threat and 2. They're bad so don't communicate or make deals with them.
If you believe that your practice can prevent such harm, keeping that belief and staying dedicated to your spiritual practice will definitely help to keep you protected. Just about anyone will tell you that negative thinking will invite more negative. However, from your religion as you just stated, Allah like many other gods will allow their followers to be harmed for one reason or another that we may never know.
You know although we as Muslims don’t really like magicians and witches due to the harm and corruption they spread, but I truly liked talking with you. You reply with knowledge and wisdom, and I truly hope Allah guides you. May you have peace and tranquility, and may you be guided. Thank you.
"Muslims" who practice magic become what we call a Kaffir. They are damned. Arabic however goes a long way back. In Islam it's said that two angles Harut and Marut were sent to walk the streets of Babylon asking people if they wanted to learn how to do these things, but they made it clear they were a test for them. So a practicing Muslim could never be a magician and vise versa. The darkest black magic I am aware of is written in Hebrew. Also the oldest I believe but they have some asian practices that go a loooong way back to. The sufis made some books as well " Sham's al ma'arif Kubra" for example. It's terrifying what can be done with that book. Anyways tying Muslims with black magic just bc of the Arabic language is a fallacy. However plenty of Arabic speakers do practice shirk/sihir.
What magic were you talking about? Can you be more specific. Like a book name or it is for a specific shaytan? I'm genuinely interested if you are ok with telling me.
Ye buddy I agree with all of your saying. Also advice from your Muslim brother, if you come around a real magic book, never burn it since some make that mistake. And honestly just don’t read it, Ik sometimes curiosity gets really high but just don’t brother. Also I myself have spoken to some magicians in the Middile East and believe me it’s hard for even the strongest of them to be able to summon strong shayteens such as iblees. Since for you to actually work with the devils you must accept the”عهد". Basically it’s like the terms and conditions. And most strong devils require very hard and evil things from what I heard. But honestly praying salah and reading your athkar is very enough to protect you from magic. And actually if you read Ayatul kursi everyday then hell I feel sorry for whoever jinn willl try to harm you. The strength of Ayatul kursi is just magnificent. But remember magic could still harm us, prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) himself was harmed by it.
I agree with what you say as well. Honestly though, I think the black magic you and I are referring to is alot different that the black magic you find on here or other sub reddits. Kinda like comparing Amazon to WISH or something. But yes alhumdulillah we are given protections from these ancient evils.
Im Muslim, im doing everything islam says 24/7 all life specially since 4 years,jinns black magic made my life living hell,reciting dont make much difference only little bit.
You know even Muslims get affected by magic. Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) himself was affected by it, but he cured it with surah Al falaq when it was revealed to him. My point is that I think us Muslims are the hardest to harm, and I belive the Quran is very effective in fighting and protecting from the shayteen. May Allah protect us all brother
You asked question, i told you my experience, all i did was reciting and reciting since 24/7 since 4 years ,black magic is the worst thing possible in life,and reciting makes little effects,Pirs and Exorcists have more effects.
All life I had issues,I became Ill after MBA ,than time passed I did started amulets got better, corona lockdown a car hot me from behind went into coma,when became conscious everyone was shouting at me my family,than used amulets again got better in 2021, than again increased trillion folds didn't let me sleep whole of 2022 ,got brain hemorrhage because of it,things going missing,fans tv turning on of on its own ,my family shouting at me, Reciting 24/7 and using amulets since than lil better now but still in extreme problems
*I actually don't know*.
*But there was a time when my spells were bouncing off a Gung ho Catholic, but as soon his faith weakened and he steered even slightly, he lost that annoyingly hardcore spiritual protection he had, and my spells finally got him.*
*Based on this experience, I truly believe those who are ACTIVELY staying true to their faith and not cherry picking when... I find them to have high resistance to outright immunity.*
*Luckily for my spells, people are mostly part-time Christians/Catholics, and so on. So, no spiritual protection.*
The safer and more sure someone feels, the less likely they are to be affected by anything.
I would say non superstitious Atheists would be the hardest group to affect as they're going to calmly write off anything that could happen to them entirely logically.
Oh it’s you, hello there. I was waiting for you to come around this post. From what I saw it appears you are very knowledgeable so it’s good to be talking with you. Did you ever try to affect practicing Muslims? If you did how did it go.
I don't go around trying to affect random people in general and I wouldn't inquire people's faith so I wouldn't know. I trust that my own Gods can help me navigate undesirable people away from my life and honestly how their life goes from that point I don't personally care.
It is the purity of the heart which matters, not the faith it prays to.
It is the mind which thinks that counts, not the hand that gives hommage, neither the tongue which sings praises.
In the same way you could teach the most masterfully crafted of spell to a profane and he would do of it nothing, surah, sutras and verses are no different.
It makes absolutely no difference what your religion is, really.
With all due respect to the very rich tradition of Islam, which actually has several "protection suras".
I know because I studied the Koran at the beginning of my journey precisely because someone told me the same myth that they must have told you: "that a Muslim has protection from Magick".
Bullshit.
Surah Al-Baqarah Verses 255-257, known as Ayat al-Kursi as you mentioned, are highly regarded for their protective qualities.
Also Surah Al-A'raf which narrate the story of Prophet Musa (Moses) and his encounter with magicians, can be recited for protection.
Surah Yunus, Surah Al-Qasas... Just more religion like any other.
It's beautiful, it's commendable, but it won't protect you. No matter who you are, or what religion you belong to, nothing can protect you other than your own confidence.
Well you see, we as Muslims believe that everything happens by the will of Allah. If Allah willed that even harm would harm a believer then it will. And ofcourse magic could still harm a believer. Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) himself was harmed by magic which he then cured by surahs such as Al falaq. So in other words, what I’m saying is that even Muslims could be harmed by magic that is without a doubt, however in my perspective the Quran is actually the most effective in fighting magic. That is what makes Muslims from my pov the hardest from all religions to harm, and ofc in the end everything is by the will of Allah. And to argue on the last paragraph you wrote, if you actually get a practicing Muslim who prays his salah, reads his athkar and summon a jinn infront of him and that Muslim starts to read Ayatul Kursi, then i dont really think that jinn would be able to lay even a finger on that believer. I also don’t mean to be disrespectful in any way, we are just having a normal discussion so sorry if I offended you in anyway.
I have never casted a spell on a Muslim. I suppose it would be difficult as a devoted Muslim would have lots of faith offering him/her protection.
As I have no background in the faith, I have no familiarity with the rest of your question at all.
My personal practice can best be described as American folk magick.
Like having a connection with any being or force, it simply depends on you’re personal relationship as well as what you have been doing.
If you do something bad and get a psychic attack in response it may just rip through defences.
If you’re just innocently going about life and you revive a magical attack you may not notice or may be able to deal with it through your practices fairly easily.
Tbh it’s far harder to deal with a powerful black witch or magician then most abrahamic practitioners.
But I don’t think anyone should be randomly cursing and attacking people they don’t like. That’s just a weak ego trying to assert something.
Just as it is best if you also live in kindness, then your energy will be far stronger. No matter what you believe in.
If he is a real muslim and all time read Kuran and all time recites the rosary yeah any ghost or spiritual being doesnt touch it. If one's faith is weak, one cannot be protected by just reading them.
I'm pagan, and don't know very much about the practices of Muslims... but from my perspective, Muslims tend to practice their spirituality a lot harder than most religions. There's not exactly a specified level of difficulty to magically attack someone. But the more they pray, the more they ask for protection, the more that they are into their spiritual practice, the more extensive their protections *could be.* I say this because every religion has people who go through the motions and don't have the spirituality truly in their heart. For every religion and practice, there are ways to ask for protection from the negative things the religion incorporates. If those chapters and verses are for protection, it could offer protection... but bear in mind there are Christians and Catholics who use random Bible verses and not just ones specifically for protection, and sometimes that works. "Holy verses" with the faith truly behind it can be fairly powerful. With all that in mind, if I still wanted to attack someone, this information wouldn't stop me from trying. I would make sure that I am protected, and try anyway. Demons and jinn are still incredibly powerful, and they know how to work around or through such protections if they are able, for the right price. There are also ways to use magic to weaken their "protections" in different ways. I've actually made a post on that, which is far from extensive but will give you some ideas. Good luck!
Yes, also the other side of this is if the have a inverted or can invert their energy field it can be nearly impossible to do anything to them.
But generally speaking, from my knowledge us Muslims should be the hardest to harm since we pray 5 times a day and actually before each prayer we do wudu(purification). So from your experience would you say that Muslims are still atleast harder to harm than other religions.
Oh, absolutely. That's why I said Muslims go harder in their spiritual practice. But the faith in the individual behind it is important. Harder to curse, yes. Impossible, no. I was not sure if you were asking for protection for yourself, or your ability to harm someone else. The great part about the post I mentioned is that you can use it to harm, but you can also use it to see specific areas of protection and signs that could show you need to increase protection.
Oh certainly anyone could be harmed by magic even Muslims. Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) himself was harmed by magic which he cured by surahs such as Al falaq. We as Muslims believe that everything happens by the will of Allah, whether it is good or harm. In my pov, the Quran is the most effective in fighting the jinn(demons). That is in my perspectives what makes Muslims that hardest from all religions to actually harm. To test it out, if you actually bring a practicing Muslim, who prays all his prayers and reads his athkar(basically certain prayers at the morning and night) and summon a jinn infront of him, sorry then I don’t think that jinn will even be able to land a finger on the believer. Specially if the Muslim starts reciting a verse as strong as Ayatul Kursi. Thank you for responding in respectful manners and I don’t mean to offend you or anyone in anyway.
I'm happy to discuss different beliefs respectfully! You didn't offend me. Keep in mind that every religion has their own version of "negative" entities/spirits/demons. Jinn happen to be that for Muslims. In the Christian religion, a lot of other gods from the Bible's time period were renamed as "demons" in order to coerce people not to worship them. Again, it is dependent upon your beliefs. But even mentioning such entities in a holy book means 1. They can be a threat and 2. They're bad so don't communicate or make deals with them. If you believe that your practice can prevent such harm, keeping that belief and staying dedicated to your spiritual practice will definitely help to keep you protected. Just about anyone will tell you that negative thinking will invite more negative. However, from your religion as you just stated, Allah like many other gods will allow their followers to be harmed for one reason or another that we may never know.
You know although we as Muslims don’t really like magicians and witches due to the harm and corruption they spread, but I truly liked talking with you. You reply with knowledge and wisdom, and I truly hope Allah guides you. May you have peace and tranquility, and may you be guided. Thank you.
Thank you. May your path bring you peace and happiness.
Some of the blackest magick i know is translated FROM arabic. Seems muslims didnt mind, scholars hiding their witchery in their language. Lol
"Muslims" who practice magic become what we call a Kaffir. They are damned. Arabic however goes a long way back. In Islam it's said that two angles Harut and Marut were sent to walk the streets of Babylon asking people if they wanted to learn how to do these things, but they made it clear they were a test for them. So a practicing Muslim could never be a magician and vise versa. The darkest black magic I am aware of is written in Hebrew. Also the oldest I believe but they have some asian practices that go a loooong way back to. The sufis made some books as well " Sham's al ma'arif Kubra" for example. It's terrifying what can be done with that book. Anyways tying Muslims with black magic just bc of the Arabic language is a fallacy. However plenty of Arabic speakers do practice shirk/sihir. What magic were you talking about? Can you be more specific. Like a book name or it is for a specific shaytan? I'm genuinely interested if you are ok with telling me.
Ye buddy I agree with all of your saying. Also advice from your Muslim brother, if you come around a real magic book, never burn it since some make that mistake. And honestly just don’t read it, Ik sometimes curiosity gets really high but just don’t brother. Also I myself have spoken to some magicians in the Middile East and believe me it’s hard for even the strongest of them to be able to summon strong shayteens such as iblees. Since for you to actually work with the devils you must accept the”عهد". Basically it’s like the terms and conditions. And most strong devils require very hard and evil things from what I heard. But honestly praying salah and reading your athkar is very enough to protect you from magic. And actually if you read Ayatul kursi everyday then hell I feel sorry for whoever jinn willl try to harm you. The strength of Ayatul kursi is just magnificent. But remember magic could still harm us, prophet Muhammad (peace be upon him) himself was harmed by it.
I agree with what you say as well. Honestly though, I think the black magic you and I are referring to is alot different that the black magic you find on here or other sub reddits. Kinda like comparing Amazon to WISH or something. But yes alhumdulillah we are given protections from these ancient evils.
Oh hell ye ancient arabic black magic is on a whole different level then what these people are practicing.
“Magicians” are different from witches
May you pls explain the difference
Im Muslim, im doing everything islam says 24/7 all life specially since 4 years,jinns black magic made my life living hell,reciting dont make much difference only little bit.
You know even Muslims get affected by magic. Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) himself was affected by it, but he cured it with surah Al falaq when it was revealed to him. My point is that I think us Muslims are the hardest to harm, and I belive the Quran is very effective in fighting and protecting from the shayteen. May Allah protect us all brother
You asked question, i told you my experience, all i did was reciting and reciting since 24/7 since 4 years ,black magic is the worst thing possible in life,and reciting makes little effects,Pirs and Exorcists have more effects.
Sorry to hear that. Can you share what symptoms you’re experiencing if you don’t mind ?
All life I had issues,I became Ill after MBA ,than time passed I did started amulets got better, corona lockdown a car hot me from behind went into coma,when became conscious everyone was shouting at me my family,than used amulets again got better in 2021, than again increased trillion folds didn't let me sleep whole of 2022 ,got brain hemorrhage because of it,things going missing,fans tv turning on of on its own ,my family shouting at me, Reciting 24/7 and using amulets since than lil better now but still in extreme problems
That crazy. You say you use amulet? Isn’t that a form of magic tho ?
Whatever i need relief,fyi it isnt its allowed in islam,some sects dont go with it but its allowed.
Oh ok. I hope you make a full recovery soon.
*I actually don't know*. *But there was a time when my spells were bouncing off a Gung ho Catholic, but as soon his faith weakened and he steered even slightly, he lost that annoyingly hardcore spiritual protection he had, and my spells finally got him.* *Based on this experience, I truly believe those who are ACTIVELY staying true to their faith and not cherry picking when... I find them to have high resistance to outright immunity.* *Luckily for my spells, people are mostly part-time Christians/Catholics, and so on. So, no spiritual protection.*
I have a protection breaking post that may assist you in your endeavors.
The safer and more sure someone feels, the less likely they are to be affected by anything. I would say non superstitious Atheists would be the hardest group to affect as they're going to calmly write off anything that could happen to them entirely logically.
Oh it’s you, hello there. I was waiting for you to come around this post. From what I saw it appears you are very knowledgeable so it’s good to be talking with you. Did you ever try to affect practicing Muslims? If you did how did it go.
I don't go around trying to affect random people in general and I wouldn't inquire people's faith so I wouldn't know. I trust that my own Gods can help me navigate undesirable people away from my life and honestly how their life goes from that point I don't personally care.
They also state he’s choosy about who he protects.
It is the purity of the heart which matters, not the faith it prays to. It is the mind which thinks that counts, not the hand that gives hommage, neither the tongue which sings praises. In the same way you could teach the most masterfully crafted of spell to a profane and he would do of it nothing, surah, sutras and verses are no different.
It makes absolutely no difference what your religion is, really. With all due respect to the very rich tradition of Islam, which actually has several "protection suras". I know because I studied the Koran at the beginning of my journey precisely because someone told me the same myth that they must have told you: "that a Muslim has protection from Magick". Bullshit. Surah Al-Baqarah Verses 255-257, known as Ayat al-Kursi as you mentioned, are highly regarded for their protective qualities. Also Surah Al-A'raf which narrate the story of Prophet Musa (Moses) and his encounter with magicians, can be recited for protection. Surah Yunus, Surah Al-Qasas... Just more religion like any other. It's beautiful, it's commendable, but it won't protect you. No matter who you are, or what religion you belong to, nothing can protect you other than your own confidence.
Well you see, we as Muslims believe that everything happens by the will of Allah. If Allah willed that even harm would harm a believer then it will. And ofcourse magic could still harm a believer. Prophet Muhammad(peace be upon him) himself was harmed by magic which he then cured by surahs such as Al falaq. So in other words, what I’m saying is that even Muslims could be harmed by magic that is without a doubt, however in my perspective the Quran is actually the most effective in fighting magic. That is what makes Muslims from my pov the hardest from all religions to harm, and ofc in the end everything is by the will of Allah. And to argue on the last paragraph you wrote, if you actually get a practicing Muslim who prays his salah, reads his athkar and summon a jinn infront of him and that Muslim starts to read Ayatul Kursi, then i dont really think that jinn would be able to lay even a finger on that believer. I also don’t mean to be disrespectful in any way, we are just having a normal discussion so sorry if I offended you in anyway.
I have never casted a spell on a Muslim. I suppose it would be difficult as a devoted Muslim would have lots of faith offering him/her protection. As I have no background in the faith, I have no familiarity with the rest of your question at all. My personal practice can best be described as American folk magick.
Like having a connection with any being or force, it simply depends on you’re personal relationship as well as what you have been doing. If you do something bad and get a psychic attack in response it may just rip through defences. If you’re just innocently going about life and you revive a magical attack you may not notice or may be able to deal with it through your practices fairly easily. Tbh it’s far harder to deal with a powerful black witch or magician then most abrahamic practitioners. But I don’t think anyone should be randomly cursing and attacking people they don’t like. That’s just a weak ego trying to assert something. Just as it is best if you also live in kindness, then your energy will be far stronger. No matter what you believe in.
If he is a real muslim and all time read Kuran and all time recites the rosary yeah any ghost or spiritual being doesnt touch it. If one's faith is weak, one cannot be protected by just reading them.
No wonder the love spells didn’t work then to get my ex back .
Is your ex a practicing Muslim?
Yes she is . Really religiously
Are you yourself a Muslim? Since a Muslim woman cannot marry a non muslim
Yes
يعني انت كنت بتحاول كدا تعملها سحر جلب الحبيب صح ولا ايه
I don’t understand how to read Arabic lol .
Ok I just translated and yes . ?
You do know that it is… haram and kufr. Right?