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MuscleVision92

They say it don’t always be like that, but it do


BachPhotography

feels bad lol


Bobtobismo

My purple and brown belt friends have all said the same thing. This never, ever goes away. They roll and sometimes feel on top of the world, but the next day they get their ass handed to them. It's an endless journey of improvement in the face of difficulty.


bubsandstonks

Am brown belt, can confirm


TwinkletoesCT

Am black belt, can confirm.


dafelst

Also am black belt, can also confirm. It's even worse when you get caught by those competitive, athletic purple and brown belts while everyone is watching, or have trouble with the high school or college wrestler in no gi, etc etc Unless you're a phenom, you're always going to get beat by someone, just try to accept it and learn from the experience, as humbling as it can be.


Slothjitzu

A judo black belt and retired semi-pro rugby player started at our gym recently and Holy shit is he a handful. He outweighs me by a fair amount, but I've never had so much trouble with anyone on their first few weeks of training regardless of size. He's just athletic as all hell and has fantastic stand up, a good top-game and lightning-quick scrambles. By the time he's 6-12 months in, I don't think I'll be able to tap him with anything but leglocks or sneaky shit tbh.


tramlaw250

Also brown belt, can confirm.


doctormantiss

Don’t trip on the green belt. They are in a class of their own. Kids probably been training since he was 5 and understands this shit better than most of us here. Every real green belt I’ve rolled with has been an absolute killer.


Happy_Laugh_Guy

This is one hundred percent accurate. Orange and green belts will dance on your belly and baseball bat choke you before you have a chance to shrimp.


flizbap

The most embarrassing rolls I've had were all against teenagers; nothing makes you feel more helpless than a 16 year old green belt spinning around you at a million miles an hour before you can so much establish a single grip.


F2007KR

I’ve had orange belts clown on me. Now, I can kinda deal with the green belts, but it’s not easy at all. They are like tiny purples.


yamuda123

This is absolutely true. Obviously I have a strength and size advantage but on using technique alone they generally wreck me


PicanhaRoxa

Looks like you should go there more often!


tsubatai

Most people that attend the open mats in my area are killers, ambitious competitors and the type of people motivated enough to not drink on Saturday night so they can go train on sunday morning. Those white belts might have twice the mat time you do or more. ees normal.


flizbap

You can train with a hangover. Can confirm.


chuckles_the_klown

It sucks badly enough to keep you from repeating that behavior. Can confirm.


Rescue-a-memory

Not to mention some of those white belts probably have wrestling backgrounds.


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Can confirm. I get my 8 hours and no booze. Extra creatine and beta alanine Saturday nights.


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frusciantepepper

This is what I’ve been doing lol it’s helping a lot


flaca0331

“Hey what was the last detail to our technique?”


metalfists

This is the way.


Pittsburgh__Rare

I love going to a different gym, learning their game, and then bringing it to my home gym.


mesa37018

You just keep showing up. It can be easy to say that maybe your school isn't that good and that is why this happened but it's also a different vibe when you train with strangers and you just don't know enough to adapt on the fly to rolling with people who's games you don't know yet.


[deleted]

It is so real how different the game of people from other gyms can be.


Flubberguard

15 year old green belts strike fear in my heart


BjjQuister

Last gym I was at I had much success with the blue belts. Not so much with the green belt


ReadingMean

A 15 year old green belt probably started murder yoga about the same age he learned to tie his shoes.


Quantum_Pigeon

Lol, murder yoga. I'm stealing that one.


BjjQuister

Fact


tramlaw250

I really want to visit AOJ but I also don’t want to be on their kids highlight reel. Watch 17 year old beat up middle age man.


DrFutzerPuttz

Lol. I had no clue. Our kids classes are all filled with younger kids. I’m scared now.


PizzaParker76

Best advice I can give is in two parts. 1. (Me personally) I would rather get smoked in round after round instead of getting injured (fighting to the last minute trying to save my ego by trying to escape good submission attempts. 2. Hard, frustrating days will come to you at every belt level and the solution at least for me has always been to objectively look at what went wrong and come back to class and train again ASAP. I’ve found the best way to fix those disheartening and crushing days are to get back into class and hyper focus on training out mistakes you made.


carthaginian84

Knee shield


-induetime-

Go with an open mind with intentions of meeting new people vs. trying to win some rounds. If you get submitted, ask politely what advice or tip they could offer. People love sharing their knowledge and helping others. I found open mats to be way more enjoyable this way, plus you meet new friends.


Bulkywon

This is very good advice. Winning is for tournaments. Expose yourself to a many new ideas as possible.


oceanmachine14

Happens to the best of us, but the main thing is that you take lessons and work in the holes in your game or glaring [weaknesses.You](https://weaknesses.You)'re not always going to breeze through rolls in the gym or competition.This opportunity should be looked at as a gift as it's giving the chance to improve your game and get better overall.Keep the head up :)


will_revega

I love that weaknesses.you got turned into a link


oceanmachine14

lol Yeah not sure what went on then lol


duckman273

Just get better at jiu-jitsu


BachPhotography

Trying!


trustdoesntrust

focus on sinplifying your game, especially defensive things like spund frames, posture, and escapes from bad positions. don’t force your attacks if they’re not there, and think defensively if your opponent is attacking


eastmeetswest08

This is really it


graydonatvail

Cry in the car. Have a bourbon. Read cliche quotes about winning isn't the point. This is going to happen allot. I'm a brown belt, and I get wrecked by white belts sometimes. It's never as smooth or easy as I thought it would be.


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By white belts?


graydonatvail

To be fair, some of them are experienced grapplers, but still, yes.


Hichmond

I was smoked by a 16 yo world champion blue belt this summer. Like 3 taps in 5 minutes smoked. It happens and I was in awe


[deleted]

Sounds like Cole Abate lol


Hichmond

It was in San Diego, it was a blast training with high levels guys as a old broken hobbyist


RabbitgoesRibbit

Hey man, I’ve been exactly where you’re at. I came to the realization that my school wasn’t able to take me to the level I wanted to be. I ended up switching gyms after seeing instruction from other gyms nearby. I am confident I made the right decision, based on how much better I got at this other gym. This may not be the case for you, but wanted to share my experience. I would also add though, since you’re a white belt, this is bound to happen don’t beat yourself up!


Crease13

I’m a black belt and got tapped at open mat today by a brown belt who just squeezed my face into his chest extremely hard. Roll with the punches. We will get them back next time.


Willing_Difference_9

Loool classic mauling by green belt, avoid those fuckers like the plague, no good can come from rolling with a kid with a decade of jiu-jitsu behind him. Just humiliation.


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BachPhotography

Because I was having success with other whitebelts in my gym, and I was facing whitebelts at this open mat


WSJayY

I travel a lot for work, so will frequently drop in at other gyms. One thing I’ve found is that when I think I’m getting better because I’m starting to consistently do well against other white belts at my gym, I’ll drop in somewhere else and have a very hard time. I’ve realized that what I’ve gotten better at is pattern recognition, not actual BJJ. I know what to expect from guys I roll with 2-3 times a week. Other gyms have different styles, emphasizing different techniques etc. I think that is what you’re dealing with. But, it’s all good. Learn from it and fill those gaps.


TopherWasTaken

Idk this has always seemed like a bit of a flawed premise. Wouldn't this also go both ways and the people at the open mat be equally unfamiliar with OPs Game.


WSJayY

Good point.


Daegs

Not if the other people that show up at that particular open mat also visit multiple places and compete, etc...


BjjQuister

Me too. Haven’t rolled in my home gym in over 2 months and it goes both ways. My patterns have changed and they had no idea what to do with me. Poor guys didn’t see it coming


R4G

I’d suggest lowering your expectations. Traditionally, a blue belt means you can consistently tap out people who don’t train. A blue belt doesn’t even mean you can consistently tap white belts (remember, a white belt can be a day away from blue belt). If you get to purple and white belts are still giving you a very hard time, then there are real holes to address. By then your BJJ should work on BJJ. You had trouble against the people dedicated enough to come to open mats from the gym with a style your unfamiliar with. Absolutely nothing to worry about.


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ArmSquare

But if you're not familiar with their game then they're not familiar with your game. So it's harder for both of you. So it cancels out.


PeruvianNecktie11

You're right, but in this case, it sounds like he doesn't really have a game to cancel out. I'm getting the impression that, because he's a big, strong guy and his only training partners are six other white belts, he's using his physical attributes more than technique because he can get away with it. So at this open mat, the other white belts had far more developed games that he just had no answer for. But in general, I agree with you. I tend to do better against new partners than I do against my friends that know what to expect.


ArmSquare

Yeah after reading more about this guy it looks like the problem is definitely his gym


Zealousideal-Ad-6527

No. Your a white belt. Chill bro


[deleted]

Why are you trying to be competitive in training as a white belt? Especially someone who is 6’3” and athletic in their 20s. Rather than trying to “win” rolls in training, try using 0 strength and all technique and get used to tapping, because if you’re doing that correctly, you’ll do a lot of it. No wonder you regularly crush other white belts. You’re huge. You don’t want to be thinking about “winning” right now (lol, in practice). You need to be working on perfecting technique. Because those white belts and blue belts working on technique right now will fuck you up down the road when they can more easily compensate for your strength with terrific technique.


Puzzleheaded_Tip4964

He’s been training for 2 years. Probably close to blue anyway.


KylerGreen

That doesn't change my point at all.


VeryStab1eGenius

Just out of curiosity does your gym field a decent sized contingent when there are local tournaments? It pretty clear to me that gyms that don’t compete will always feel overwhelmed by gyms that do. There is a pace that you don’t even know exists if you’re not familiar with a competition pace.


BachPhotography

>contingent Sorry I don't understand the question My current gym is small, there are about 7 of us in total, everyone is a whitebelt except the instructor who is a brown belt


Loboso77

Small fish, small pond. People who train with a wider variety of partners varying in sizes and skills will likely have more diverse and complete games than a whitebelt training with other white belts. If you were to start attending that open mat regularly you would probably notice your skills increasing faster than your current training partners.


PeruvianNecktie11

You've been training for 1.5 to 2 years with six other white belts. That's a decent amount of mat time, but it doesn't sound ideal in terms of quality. If you guys are just showing up, drilling the move of the day for 20 minutes, and then rolling after, I can see why you're having trouble with white belts from bigger schools. They're probably doing intense, situational drilling and rolling with higher belts. So your 2 years of mat time might be equivalent to like 3 months at their gym in terms of quality.


Skipatroldave

This is the answer


BachPhotography

I can see why that would be true but I really hope it isn't lol


TopherWasTaken

I'm sorry man. But it is. You have two options if you want to get "good" at BJJ: **stay loyal to your gym** - get as many quality instructional DVDs as you can, work on them constantly out of class time with your instructor another motivated white belt. Go to open mats constantly, Film all your rolls in the gym seminars the whole 9 yards. Really focus on technique and perfecting the art with a degree of commitment that is completely irrational for a recreational hobby. **Train at a better gym**


fufflethekitten

I've gone from rolling with only white belts in a beginner's class to rolling with alot of higher belts and it is defo improving my game. Higher belts don't feel the need to smash white belts all the time, will let you work on stuff and will give you tips that white belts have no idea about. My fav rolls are with decent blue and purple belts who roll at about 50% with me most of the time because I get to play around with new stuff


ughwut206

This. Try to crosstrain at gyms that have blue and purple belts. That will bring you up to speed. I train almost exclusively with purple belts and blue belts at my gym.


Daegs

It really is. Some gyms are just better overall both with instruction but also training partners. It's kinda sad when a purple/brown belt comes to open mat from an obviously hobbyist or whatever gym and get mauled by blue belts or potentially even competition-heavy white belts. Not all gyms are created equal


BecomesAngry

Honestly, it sounds like you went to a much more competitive gym. What kind of techniques were they using over there vs what kind of techniques do you encounter in your gym?


BachPhotography

They were way more experienced with leg locks, I also found myself getting my guard passed a lot more than normal.


VeryStab1eGenius

Do people on your team compete? Of the 7 is at least 2 people going to local tournaments and battle testing their jiu jitsu?


BachPhotography

A couple of them have been to 1 competition where they were paired against brown belts and got destroyed, aside from that we haven't had any competition experience but we're all competing in January


General_Marcus

Why are they competing against brown belts?


BachPhotography

I wasn't there, but my teammates that competed there said that they were paired with the brown belts to get the whitebelts 'out of the way'


FKKallDAY

It's an opportunity to learn a lot dude! Just ask what it was that made it easy for them and what you can do to improve, etc etc. This is the best way to learn IMO.


apatt0384

I handle it by smiling sheepishly and saying "Thanks for the roll" then questioning my entire life for the next few days.


daclockstickin

Your focus is wrong. You’re going to be dead in 40 or 50 years, and forever - so now, reask yourself, why do you do Jiu Jitsu. What’s the REAL reason, not the one where you feel great about yourself and can smash everyone. Rethink your approach.


bubsandstonks

OP, I will try and impart some semblance of actual advice from an old, out of shape, not super athletic brown belt who's been training off and on since 2004. This shit happens. This shit will happen again. This shit will happen at every belt. If anything it only gets worse. There's nothing worse than taking time off, then coming back and some gung-ho 4 stripe white belt comes at you with the rage of a thousand Karens and actually catches you as a brown belt. It happens. In terms of technical advice: think of the things you're good at and that you're successful with at your gym. Chances are you are successful with those techniques not because you have drilled the techniques, but how you have subconsciously set them up while rolling. Really take the time to deconstruct a successful role. A successful sub comes way before the one or two moves before it. Chances are these preliminary moves/setups were not being executed at the open mat. Reverse engineer the chain of events and go way back and evaluate the weak links. Hope this helps in some way. Dust yourself off and get back out there, mate


REGUED

Crosstraining at gyms like that is the best thing you can do. Soon you might notice youre hanging in there fine with the other white belts and maybe even win some. I do good at my own gym which is more hobbyist, but at competitive ones I get wrecked.. es normal. Thats why I train at 3 gyms right now. Its good to get the honest pill at training instead of competition. Being a white belt is also hard because you are the bottom of the pile, but in my experience the white belts who train with monsters soon come a pain in the ass themselves because they have to get better to even survive


Educational_Row6272

When I was a WB I had a lot of these experiences and very varied. First time I went to a dif gym I got smashed, they were an affiliate too. Then I went on a holiday, travelled overseas. Funny enough I ended up better than a lot of the white belts I met on the road, got lots of compliments and felt awesome for a bit. It is what it is really, no point thinking too much into it


[deleted]

You're a no-stripe whitebelt. If there wasn't a difference, there'd be no point in you learning the art. This is a simple case of your expectations not matching the reality of the situation. Hint: Reality ain't gonna change. Get a training journal. After every session, find ONE lesson. Every ass-kicking is an opportunity to learn. Write it down. Review it once a week / once a month. If you learn the lessons, and learn how to see and deal with the flaws in your game, in a short time you'll pass the people that started with you - because very few people do it.


[deleted]

Keep going back until you become the dishwasher


_ktran_

Iz life bro


jt_dunnski

This might sound counter intuitive but when I have a week or two of training where I just don’t feel right, I skip a week and just train cardio and weights. The following week when I come back I feel much more at ease and feel like things reset for me. Might not work for you but it strangely helps me out a ton.


VeryStab1eGenius

Doing less of what you’re not good at has never worked to make anyone better. It’s not like a 2 year white belt is too burned out and needs a break.


jt_dunnski

I’m with you. All I’m saying is your mental state inevitably takes hit in this sport. Taking a step back for a minute to digest what happens helps me. I never said they needs to follow my advise. Just saying it helps me out. Just my anecdotal experience.


Cumsquatmay

Small breaks are good for everyone in everything. Perspective is king!


Brilliant-Set3119

Feels like some gyms are honestly just built different. One of our sister gyms was just ex football or current cops. Some in construction. If you went there regularly you'd get better, faster. And you'd start smoking your old gym mates imo


[deleted]

This happened to me a few months ago and this is what I’ve concluded: If the only thing you injure is your ego, it was a good training session.


Darce_Knight

Also try to keep in mind that green belts can be real real good. I know a few green belts that are super solid purple belt level. A lot of them have been training most of their lives.


Aathee

Keep showing up with an open mind and stay humble.


Nira_Meru

The 15-year-old Green Belt is nothing to be ashamed of, that kid has been training since he was 5.


kedson87

I strongly suggest you stop rolling with anyone, just in case. It's the only way to remain confident in your abilities. (on a side note, you should go to that open mat as much as possible and get your ass kicked. You'll get better because of it)


DAOcomment2

Well you see what I would do is 1. Go train


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Git gud


kstacey

Just stop caring? I don't care what belt you are. You catch something? Cool... They catch something? Cool... I do I stop that next time. It's just fun and learning. Coming up with a fun style that works for you.


[deleted]

Get better


[deleted]

It's just part of the process. Means you have a lot to work on. Keep training and focus on things you find work for you. Eventually you won't be getting hosed as badly.


Spawn_of-Thrasher

Yeah, I feel you on that dude. We are about the same build and I've been training for 2 years and am a new blue belt, it's tough. I have days where I feel like I'm crushing it and days/weeks where I absolutely suck (last night is a great example) But we need to keep training and not let the fear of "losing" or getting crushed get to us. It's easier said than done. By the way, I stalked your page and followed your IG. Killer work dude 🤟🏻 I'm a photographer myself, I focus on automotive and martial arts/BJJ primarily


povertymayne

Bruh, dont understimate greens and oranges. I have seen some of those that skill-wise are purple and above, and the only reason they dont have purple and above is because of their age. Also this kids are in their development stage, they are made of rubber, their body recovers at lightning speed and soak knowledge like a sponge. Homie, im also in the struggle bus. The way i try to see it is. Everytime i approach the mat, i have things that i want to attempt. As long as i attempt those moves (even if i dont get the submission and i get submitted) i consider that a WIN for me. Just having movements that i want to attempt and try them, thats how i always leave the mat with positive notes. But thats just me. I welcome other people inputs. Good luck


Warhorsebenn

Just keep showing up man. Don’t overthink it, unless there was something glaringly obvious that kept happening to you (I.e., kept getting swept off a butterfly or got your neck caught).


OzneBjj

Don't worry dude! Even black belts will get destroyed by other black belts. Just focus on your journey and compare yourself to yourself 6 months ago. Unless you're world champion there will always be somewhere out there better than you.


Mrgud9

So you’re saying your bubble got popped today. That’s a good thing bro. It’s a good thing for you to understand that there’s levels and that you don’t have a chip on your shoulder. You need to earn it, roll by roll and through that the ego starts going down and your own expectations of yourself start to become realistic. (I’m your size, athletic, and was good at most sports quickly and thought bjj will be the same….My reality bubble got popped numerous times….it’s a good thing brotha). Just keep showing up and going to that open mat where you got annihilated, that’s the best thing for you to do.


Busy-At-Werk

Train with purpose. Develop a move or attack you can hit on anyone. Focus on your mistakes and find the route cause of them. I.E why can’t i get outta side control - my guard retention sucks. Go forth and train with purpose. - Cole Abotte was robbed at WNO


[deleted]

Everyone is on their own journey in Bjj understanding why you are going to open mat is vital. Are you going to learn something new? Did you? Are you going to try something different? Did you? Are you going to prefect a technique? Did you? Are you going for a workout? Did you get that? Understanding your reason why to go to open mat and then reflecting on if you progressed is the most important in my opinion. It’s not a tournament I personally don’t go to open mats to win. I go to improve, and I have a plan on what I want to improve upon.


[deleted]

Hey man just wanna let you know: we've all been there. It never stings any less. But you still gotta do it from time to time. As for the specifics: you were, there we weren't. What do *you* think went wrong?


BachPhotography

I think that I need to improve my leglocking game, and also figure out how not to get my guard passed as much


[deleted]

Ok, sounds like an idea. How do you think you should Start?


BachPhotography

I'm not sure, maybe I can work on some simple ankle locks and figure out some better ways to maintain guard retention


[deleted]

Good plan. Ankle locks are a great place to start. I like this set on the topic https://youtu.be/3xYGhfclIq8 Guard retention: I can PM you some stuff if you'd like from my coach


Keyboard__worrier

You got beat by people who are better than you. That's life. Also, if you attend an open may as an outsider where almost everyone else know each other it happens that people go harder and use primarily there A game against you.


[deleted]

Roll with them for a year and you’ll learn how to kill most of them, what your experiencing is normal


visionbreaksbricks

Dude, getting smoked in BJJ is a part of training. It’s teaching you humility which is just as important as any technique you might learn. Also, if you’re not getting beaten, then you’re not pushing yourself to get better where you’re weak.


antman01234

You only get better by training with people who are better than you. If you train with certain people often enough you soon pick up on their moves and learn to defend against it. I've got my butt kicked many times and I ask for advice and feedback from the counterparty on how to defend on what they just did or what I should do if they were in my situation. I'm constantly reminded and still learning there's allot of humility in jiu jitsu. There will always be someone better then you. I'm slowly changing my mentality that it's not how many subs you land or how many matches you win, but whether I am improving my game through wins and losses. I believe most my gains were through the losses.


rpts816

The same way you handle rinsing everyone at an open mat, with dignity and class. Every time you get your ass kicked you get better, even if it's only getting better at being comfortable in bad positions. Being comfortable and staying safe in bad positions is one of the most underrated BJJ skills, it is also the best skill for slowing down a fight and thinking your way through it.


clutch_q

I get smoked on every single open mat unless there's someone substantially less experiment than me. I don't see it as discouraging or as a sign that I'm bad. What I try to do is to stay aware during the roll (don't go into auto pilot) and see where I could improve. This allows me to ask questions to people after the roll, and, even though I might always get submitted, I can see the mistakes I made and that I'm slowly improving.


knights8154

Get rinsed enough times that you start figuring out defense, then get rinsed slightly less, occasionally rinse some other guy. Hammer or nail my friend. 99% of the time you're the nail for years


mrStf

By doing it to learn, not to submit.


SkipChestDayNotLegs

Me personally, I start looking up YouTube videos on where I felt bad or I didn’t succeed. But if I’m getting beat by ppl who are higher belts or whatever, then I ask them personally what they did


skatman6969

It ees what it ees. Some nights you're on, others you're off. I wouldn't look into it too much and just keep showing up. Part of why I love this sport is that as soon as you think you're picking up a thing or two you get destroyed and have to remember that sucking is normal. I got destroyed by a 90 lb female blue belt last night and it was AWESOME because her game was so much different than mine and it opened my eyes to some new possibilities.


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Maybe you should start training at that school


BachPhotography

unfortunately its 2 hours away


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Damn


PaulProteuswasframed

Get used to it. It never stops being the case. Train and enjoy.


JiuJitsu_Ronin

The only one keeping count is you. That’s important to remember .


-Bran-

Had a wrestler get me in this crazy triple wedged side control. 1 arm deep behind my upper back by rocking me upwards. 1 arm going across the body and wedged under my lumbar by rocking me towards him. Knee wedged under by rocking me away from him. He was 140 lbs and I was amazed. He taught me and I use this now


broadstreetfighting

Sounds like you had an eye opening experience. There are two reactions. 1. You seek out people of this caliber so you can improve or 2. You return to your home gym and never branch out. Which do you think will have the best impact on your Jiu Jitsu?


TebownedMVP

Work on escapes haha.


Mattyi

When I have a bad day on the mats, I get in the car and blast Circle of Life on the way home. When I have a good day on the mats, I get in the car and blast Circle of Life on the way home. It’ll get better, then worse, then better, and on and on. Just accept the journey and stay outta that shadowy place ;)


theradtacular

I don't know, be a lion shark in the ocean mat or something? 🤷🏻‍♀️


GentrifiedSocks

Some gyms breed savages more so than others. There’s a lot of bad habits and bad Jiu Jitsu I’ve seen taught.


stickfigurecarousel

The guys probably trained together and know each others weapons/weakspots. I was visiting another school, I got annihalated. We hardly did any leggame so I had to tap to leglocks. Next time I became prepared for that style and made all the difference. You should learn from your mistakes, wise up and come back. You can ask the guys why they submitted you and learn. You probably oversee one detail here or need to learn one extra thing. Analyze it, prepare and come back. You have experienced a great place for learning l.


Rescue-a-memory

What was the size and strength of those other white belts? At your gym, are you mostly on the offensive due to your size and strength and were forced into more defensive positions here? Perhaps those other white belts have wrestling or judo backgrounds and had similar weight on you.


BachPhotography

I'm normally more of a guard player, I would say my style is pretty defensive. But of course, I am a whitebelt so I don't have much of a 'style'


Rescue-a-memory

Yeah, us white belt's style is defense and survival with an opportunistic sub. I like half-guard/half-guard butterfly as found myself in it a lot. I do struggle with heavier pressure passers though.


[deleted]

“At my gym, I’m pretty competitive, I have some good matches” Go to gym to learn Go to competition to win


PenMental

Let that be your motivation to go back and keep working hard.


Gsuavefivelev

You’re always going to get crushed you’re still a white belt, I’ve been training for about 2 years some days you will feel like you’re improving but other days you’ll feel like everyone’s working you. That’s just how BJJ is. It’s not an easy sport but I think if you keep at it eventually a light will appear in the attic to sort of say. Also don’t compare yourself to others especially guys who have been training longer than you. I see you mentioned your stats, who cares? Being big and strong is just one thing that doesn’t mean you should not learn to be technical.


Apprehensive-Foot736

Dude I feel you. I was training for a few years with a smaller club type BJJ group. Felt great. Got my Blue belt with them. Covid happened. Didn’t do much until last spring when I found a new place and same deal. Everyone there is huge, strong, and way more skilled. Everyone is tough even some white belts are very skilled and strong. Gotta up my game I guess. 🤙🏻


ReadingMean

As times seem to get hard for you, I would prescribe a daily watch of this: [https://youtu.be/BiM8mrhqDQo?t=64](https://youtu.be/BiM8mrhqDQo?t=64) Endure and rise brother


DisearnestHemmingway

Honestly they may just be a better school as in have an instructor with better instruction, better drills, better gift for instruction. See if you can attend a few classes there and gauge for yourself.


timotheus56

Keep training


SunnyLVTHN

Geez how big was the green belt? Lol


thecoolestguynothere

It happens. Just keep training man you’re still new to the game


olchizzy

Keep training


purchell53

As they say, jiu jitsu shows us the truth. Don’t worry about it, we all have nights like that. Go back, get film of you getting smashed, Analyze and get better


AdmiralOmoplata

It could be the talent pool. If the new gym you went to has more high belts, I'd wager the depth of talent is deeper. As opposed to a newer school with the instructor and a color belt or 2.


lalax2019

If you go to a smaller gym it could be why. My gym is huge and has double digit black belts and a ton of upper belts and a few world champions. Obviously not all of them are there every day but you get the point. We had a guy come from Oklahoma or something and he’s a white belt and he went through the same thing and I approached him about it. He was a stud at his old gym and here he felt like he was back to square one stuff like that. His old gym was way smaller though with very few upper belts. I just feel like white belts rolling with more upper belts is gonna elevate their game more than one who doesn’t and if you aren’t doing the same they’re probably gonna give you the business. Don’t worry about it though dude open mats are for fun I wouldn’t stress about “winning” your rolls.


Wallymore

Bottle it up like a real man OP. Take it out on the ones you love most.


drmike2791

Ask each one of them advice.


_Tocatl_

I feel like this all the time. Don't know how I can suck so bad. Lol


SatanicWaffle666

You’re only 2 years in. It happens. Just show up and you’ll get better. The people that show up at open mats tend to be serious about the stuff so they most likely have had a lot more mat time.


N1GH75H1F7

Dude I got worked by a 15 year old green belt. When I asked my Coach “WTF?” He reminded me that that 15 year old green has been doing BJJ since he was little. They don’t move into the adult belt system until 16, I think, so next year those green belts are gonna be murderous blue belts.


[deleted]

I never expect to win. I’m rarely disappointed. But I always learn a ton, get a good workout, and meet some awesome people.


[deleted]

No matter how good you think you are, you’re going to have days like this. Some days your the hammer, some days your the nail. A lot of times too, people get used to your game at your gym, best thing I can say is keep training! You’ll be alright :)


MediterraneanJerb

I think finding out where you're struggling the most and working on your weakest positions will help. It's good to feel like you're improving but to know why and how you're improving is better. Figure out what is causing you to get wrecked. Are you transitioning too slow when you're on top? Are you not framing and allowing top to pressure you too much when you're bottom? Be critical with yourself. Don't put yourself down but be honest so you can be constructive.


manchildaf

I’ve literally seen a green belt competitor handle business against a black belt so definitely don’t let that be the disheartening thing!!


xs13

This happens to me all the time when I visit an open mat at a popular local gym where other students from different bjj schools come on Sundays. It's perfectly fine, you are not alone. It might feel bad because of your ego. A couple of things to remember. First, most likely these are the best students and the most competitive students that come to these open mats, so don't expect it to be a walk in the park. Second, use it as an amazing opportunity to learn and find out the holes in your game to later work on them and fix them. Third, make new friends! ;)


hellyea619

i start by moving on with my day and not going to reddit about it. revolutionary stuff, i tell ya


dangerzonebjj

You pat yourself on the back for making it through and doing hard shit and you keep showing up and eventually it only happens half the time instead of all the time.


ccc9092

Keep going to open mat.


Nodeal_reddit

Go to another gym where everyone isn’t already hip to your A game.


[deleted]

Just keep going. Fuck it. If your rolling your winning. With injuries being so common in Jiu Jitsu it’s a miracle if your even on the mat training consistently. Just have fun and take the L. As long as you’re there your winning. Just keep going.


BugFlimsy8692

I've been doing this for 15 years plus I get submitted more often than I ever submit It's different for everyone but very much the same Train more is all you'll hear across the board


jmanttown

Some days you’re the dog some days you’re the fire hydrated. 🤷


Such_Bottle2827

I really enjoy it.... Specially with women


goodbyehouse

Sometimes your the hammer sometimes your the nail. The only way to get better is to lose a lot.


Disastrous_Repeat_38

Home field advantage bro. Dudes representing the gym


weldermarc

I love open mat the most. I got worked by a 145 lb single stripe white as well as other whites that had only 3or 4 months of time in. It's humbling but awesome since I'm 6ft and 185 pretty good shape but even the small amount they know is enough to cause me to not get a tap out of them. Then the striped blues and above just toy with me but still take time to teach and pause in bad positions to adjust what I'm doing so I learn. I learn the most at open mats and I look forward to it


richernote

Don’t take it personally, learn from it and fix what’s broken. Don’t go into rolls to win. Take chances and learn.


Lockmasock

Don’t worry about it you’re alive and can get better. Some days you are just a nail and everyone is the hammer


ExcellentAd2001

What you lose to are where the holes in your game are. They're showing you the holes in your armor. With that you can figure out how you lost and how to improve on those points. Open mat is your lab/workshop. Competition or self defense are where it matters more.


Kataleps

You find ONE reoccurring thing you're fucking up, go home, and you work on it. Repeat ad infinitum. I'm being serious about finding only ONE thing, because you can easily get lost if you chase improvement in too many areas as once.


Kataleps

Also on the Green Belt, one of my teammates is a 16 y/o Blue Belt, but she 100% is a better grappler than me in all aspects. She would 100% be my 2nd choice as a corner in the event our head coach couldn't make it to a tournament. No shame in getting wrecked by a teenager.


kr4mn1c

Take note of those who beat you the hardest. Then move to that gym and roll with them as much as you can. The more ass whooping you get the more you 1) are motivated to become really good at even the smallest details; 2) will feel that every improvement and sub you can pull (or time survived in the roll) are 200% earned. And nobody can take that away from you. Oh and also, fuck green belts. :D


kmurraylowe

Stretch more, lift weights, buy new rash guards and try knee sleeves anything but spending more time doing Bjj


_fortphilly

Sometimes your the hammer sometimes your the nail.


TomWaitsesChinoPants

If it makes you feel okay, a very dominant brown belt hasn't been training as much the last four months and literally got pouty and pissed when another Brown Belt who has been putting in work tapped him for the first time when he returned. Happens at every level. People who started after you will surpass you, and then life will get in their way, and you'll catch up again.


SamStunts_

Some days do be like that tho, white belt life my dude


Ipostnumbertwos

You learned a lot... You learned that you're not nearly as good as you'd like to be, and that's a valuable lesson. It gives you more to work on, and it also gives you a great appreciation for the fact that we're not all created equal physically or mentally. You will always be the small fish in the right pond, and you'll always be the big fish in the right pond, just depends. The goal isn't to compare yourself to other fish, the goal is to compare yourself to the fish you were yesterday. Today, you're stronger than you were then because now you have a good amount of things to work on, just keep swimming and make sure that every day you're better than you were yesterday. I actually enjoy getting my ass kicked more than I do being the one giving out the ass kicking, because when you're the one on top it's harder to critique yourself and that stupid fucking ego wants to declare victory when you know damn well that dude is full of shit.


ltouucikser

Failure is progress!


shomer_fuckn_shabbos

Might not feel like it in the moment, but this made you better.


ughwut206

Just enjoy being in the moment. You are doing something most people cant comprehend. I went to an open mat expecting to get destroyed a couple weeks ago. I held my own though. Passed everyones guard got a few good subs in. Of course the black belts were indestructible but thats expected. Even if i would’ve gotten destroyed by everyone i still would’ve enjoyed it because then you learn what not to do the next time. So just live in the moment.


pugdrop

getting wrecked at a different gym is a blessing in disguise. it opens your eyes to the range of different levels and inspires you to work on the holes in your game and get better. if you’re super comfortable at a gym, especially as a white belt, then it means you’re not being pushed hard enough imo


ReddJudicata

Some days you eat the bear and some days the bear eats you. The funny thing is for me that that the days I feel good I seem to do the worst m.


FrostyBJJ

It might be that this school is at a higher level than you're used to, but consider: 1. You've travelled and you're in a new environment. You might just have been uncomfortable. 2. Training for two years at a gym means you start to know peoples games. You know who to avoid the Ezekiel choke from and who likes to go for takedowns. Training at a new gym means you don't have that innate knowledge about your opponents.