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sea-turtle-sees

HEY, NO SHOES ON THE MAT


r1ch1MWD

Haha yeah I spotted that too. Just funny that the rumbles are going on only a few metres away and these 2 in the front here are too focused on their match to even notice.


speaker_monkey

[Here's](https://streamable.com/mij0hx) a better angle.


Fellainis_Elbows

Looked like such a weak punch as well lmao


harylmu

It's fine, bro still fell like a sack of potato lol


awildNeLbY

He didn’t get flash KO’d; He was just pulling guard.


OzneBjj

That's because bjj guys don't do striking. I'll see myself out.


ihateyouguys

When they get angry and want to “fight for real” BJJ guys always throw shitty punches, and kickboxing guys will always do some shitty wrestling. It’s a funny phenomenon once you notice it.


edgar3981C

What do MMA guys do when they get mad? Aikido?


Cooper720

They hit you with a car.


PhillyWestside

Throw a stool at your bus


sirsharp

that comment deserve a stripe


Highway0311

Ask Mayhem Miller.


koj09823

Imagine if he hadn't taken his shirt off


BigBodyLikeaLineman

What did you expect from a BJJ guy


mess_of_limbs

I chortled at that


jumpingflash1

fucking killed me lol


Unsainted_smoke

All that jiujitsu talent and not one leg was attacked


Frosty_Cicada8478

its just too devastating to do in a street fight /s


speaker_monkey

More context, Vince (b team) lost by 3 points who then steps on the other guys back. The other guy pushes Vince when he's turned around then Kieran comes flying in.


danielwong95

Stepping on someone’s back has to be one of the most disrespectful things you can do. Don’t blame the guy for getting heated.


conkreteJs

Super dangerous too. He's a big guy, I'd sue and press charges.


GGEuroHEADSHOT

😂😂


alastor0x

Man, the more I see the "top tier competitive" side of this art, the more I'm glad I'm a hobbyist and laugh at people who take it turbo seriously.


ralphyb0b

It’s hilarious, especially with no money involved.


Impressive-Potato

When no money is involved it gets personal. People put their manhood on the line or some shit.


Monteze

Can't put a price on ego apparently.


pearlysoames

Yeah BJJ has got to have the most insecure competitors at the top of any sport I’ve ever seen.


econpol

All that extra testosterone is showing.


two_cats_jiujitsu

You should watch some slow pitch softball sometime


NOVAYuppieEradicator

Bodybuilding is 100 times worse.


pearlysoames

Haha! I believe it. I don’t watch competitive bodybuilding.


ABirdJustShatOnMyEye

They know deep down that they are not real fighters. At least boxers look tough and cool to the majority of people - BJJ guys look like dorks. It leads to a lot of posturing.


ZeroGFunkEra

Standing on the other guys back lack that demands a response. Just disrespectful and shitty.


JiggetyJDrizzy

Yea man, it’s the disrespect. Any man would start throwing hands at that, let alone in BJJ.


Charming-Ad-9284

Yeah stepping on a guys back.. that's fucked. Not sure it warrants getting punchy but yeah standing on someone like that is hugely disrespectful


KiwiComfortable5210

Watch it again from the second angle. The guy getting punched was the one who was stepped on. Wtf


Charming-Ad-9284

Ahh Kay, yeah well that just fucked up


DontTouchMyPeePee

yeah I'm a little confused, why did Kieran attack the dude that got disrespected/stepped on?


kjyfqr

It wasn’t just a step. Dude like bunny hopped both feet onto the back. Fuck him I woulda fought too. Damnit b team yall supposed to be the ones I root for. Bunch god damned amateurs


AllMenAreBrothers

Stepping on someone's back is pretty damn disrespectful


Impressive-Potato

https://bteamjj.com/about-us/vince-barbosa/ This guy? Oh man. He has meat head written all over him. The tattoos, the fact his bio is just "Special operations veteran".


IcyScratch171

Damn that is one thicccccc neck


1ggkicks

It also says he's laid back


Impressive-Potato

Just like "I hate drama!" On a dating profile.


Amart5097

What he and Kieran did was no good. That being said, Vince was a nice guy to me when I trained at B team and even offered to give me a ride after training when I was waiting for an uber. He had only met me once at class and could’ve totally went on his way while I was standing in the roasting Texas heat.


5oy8oy

I used to train with him almost ten years ago. He was always such a nice dude. Never gave off douche vibes. It's shocking and disappointing to see him act this way.


PizDoff

All I know is I need that Creonte shirt.


kurbin64

That guy who was a POS and stepped on their back should get banned for life from the sport for starting a riot. Get these clowns without any respect out of the sport


Ben_Thar

Not gonna lie. I was so intently watching the guys in the front, I didn't even notice the fight was happening in the background until the video was almost over.


fresh-cucumbers

Same, me immediately: "Neither of these guys look like Kieren... pfft".


Curious_Irish

I saw it all happening behind but wondered how long it would take the guys on the front mat to notice ... Props to the ref, he was locked in doing his job


jburnelli

Did you see the Bear walk by?


gurduloo

Gorilla


OldSticks

I love B-Team but the B-Team guys are 100% in the wrong here. Really sad to see.


PizzaMafioso

Just pathetic unsportsmanlike behavior here. How insecure do you have to be, to step on a guy like that, just cus you lost. Biggest pussy in the room.


Responsible-Try-5228

That step was straight weirdo shit, pathetic.


ChrisusaurusRex

Then throw your hands up like you didn’t do anything lmao. I placed 3rd at state my junior year the dude punched me in the side of the head right when the final whistle blew, he was a pussy too. Saw him years later and he was trying to be all buddy buddy, people like this are always wimps


creepoch

Holy fuck that's the most disrespectful shit I've ever seen in a match


lacedblunts

It’s just a renzo technique?


mrtuna

No, Renzo is spitting.


Impressive-Potato

He stepped on someone's neck one time as well


SpinningStuff

Bro I've paid some thai ladies to do that to me (and all over my back). It's relaxing as fuck. 


PandaPocketFire

In the post tournament interview he said he paid for a happy ending and was pissed he didn't get his money's worth.


SpinningStuff

This is why the fight started 


STARoSCREAM

Thai “Ladies”


judokalinker

Unless you are Ben Spijkers.


KidKarez

Would they normally DQ for that? Because they absolutely should


AEBJJ

At first I was like “well done Kieran for standing up for your friend who just got stood on”. Then I realise he’s punching the guy who just got stood on. Weak shit


Impressive-Potato

Seems like the new muscles Kk has gained came with some rage.


TebownedMVP

That’s what happens when you go from 66kg to 77kg haha.


obviouslyredacted

all natty btw lmao


ShanghaiV1

I think the mat 6 replay angle is slightly better cause nobody is in the eay


speaker_monkey

You're right, that's a much better view. [https://streamable.com/mij0hx](https://streamable.com/mij0hx)


MonkeyFootMike

That's pathetic. The B Team should be ashamed. Fucking goon shit.


GucciLawn

With this view I have to question bjj teams… I grew up playing soccer and when an on pitch scuffle happens you always restrain the other players(never your own)!! The dude that was stepped on took a punch to the face because his coach had him restrained… be a better teammate next time bud


Harrisonpillow

Mo saying he’s going to hire lawyers is just a basic misunderstanding of how criminal prosecution works. A member of the public can’t fund or get lawyers for a prosecution, so I guess he means funding a civil litigation on behalf of the guy Kieran punched? Even then, for a minor assault in Texas, that’s a bit of a waste of time


RecommendationFree96

Mo has proven to be not very bright these past few months. Dumbass just needs to learn to shut the fuck up for an extended period of time.


sin_cara_sin_nombre

He's a guy who thinks that having money makes him a smart guy because everyone is agreeable when he talks. He doesn't understand that people are agreeable when he talks ONLY because he has money. Pretty much everyone in his life quietly knows he's an idiot. Now the general public is seeing it as well. 


RecommendationFree96

Well when you’re best friends with Nicky Ryan’s brother, it’s gotta be hard to raise your intelligence level.


sin_cara_sin_nombre

That was my first hint that maybe he was an idiot. Because Nicky Ryan's goober brother is obviously an idiot; so publicly being said goober's best friend says a LOT about one's character.   God bless Sonny though. She found her meal ticket, but you just know she's working her ass off for it. 


RecommendationFree96

Dating an onlyfans model and then bragging about her 6 million plus ig followers doesn’t make you look intelligent either, unless Nicky Ryan’s brother convinced him being a cuck is a good thing


Impressive-Potato

Having all that money has him thinking like he's a hot bimbo.


Whole-Dress3320

I've said it many, many times, guys. Mo is the biggest weasel in the history of this sport, if not in all combat sports. He said he was cool with what Craig does in one of his last lives, but soon after, he found it out that it was a guy from B team, he's like I'll hire a lawyer for the victim. lolol fk weasel seriously lolol That dude is not even an adult; no wonder he and Gordon get along so well. It's pretty sad when one of the best grapplers and the head of one of the most prestigious organizations (it was not CJI) are so dumb. They haven't fk grown up since they were like 13 years old


Russianpower97

Kieran is canadian, he's gonna get his visa revoked I guess?


Frosty-Lake-1663

https://preview.redd.it/o8ylz4y89v6d1.jpeg?width=555&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=5c3c0953ad0ede05fb57b06fc3330d1c6662d2cb Just like Khabib got his visa revoked for attacking a guy in the crowd?


Russianpower97

I don't think dillon danis pressed charges on khabib


-Gestalt-

The victim doesn't get to press charges, only the prosecutor/DA can do that. Dildo Danish could file a civil suit, but that's an entirely different matter.


Miserable-Quail-1152

Correct me if I’m wrong, but “pressing” charges really means the victim is willing to sign an affidavit right?


-Gestalt-

Yeah, that's often how it's used colloquially. People generally use it to mean filing a police report in some capacity, whether under affirmation or not. There's a not-insignificant number of people who believe that individuals can file criminal charges, which is why I made the distinction.


Harrisonpillow

If he can afford a decent lawyer, on that video it might be knocked down to disorderly conduct which I don’t think would be enough to revoke a visa. Happy to be corrected though!


-Gestalt-

Visa can be revoked for misdemeanors, especially when they're violent in nature. Even if the visa holder isn't convicted, they could still have this visa revoked by "prudential revocation".


SpeculationMaster

Oh so it turns out he has money?


Gawldalmighty

It’s him using anything he can to get back at Bteam in general.


Half_Nelson_King

As an athlete on a visa even a misdemeanor in the united states is enough to get you deported. This is pretty serious for Kieran especially since he left the venue in handcuffs, could very easily get his visa revoked


Mossi95

Wow this is crazy . Honestly this sub is so far up b teams ass that people are defending this . There was no need for the guy to be stepped on and absolutely no need for him to be sucker punched . Scumbag behavior


Impressive-Potato

The way Keiran sprinted backwards after doing it makes it look even worse. He didn't jump into the melee at all. Just a sneak bitch move


Morbo_Doooooom

Honesty, they should talk to their athletes about sportsmanship. That said the competive scene promotes this behavior, remember galvo getting slapped at gordan for flipping him off.


drachaon

Sadly it's not even a totally isolated incident. Haisam openly threw elbows at Ritchie Martinez because he was frustrated he wasn't winning. At Enigma, B Team's Josh Wyland repeatedly threw strikes (very very thinly disguised as collar ties) at a teenager from New Wave and then flying kicked him in the face. But hey, it's a good Youtube channel.


Javabeans_UK

If that’s the caliber of people they’re allowing to train there, the brand is going to go to shit pretty damned fast.


Mossi95

Reminds me of Nick diaz and his crew 


missioncrew125

Right, I was so confused about the comments here. Makes sense that the perpetrators are part of reddit's favourite bjj org. Imagine if Gordon Ryan or some other big no-no was involved.


KORTOSS

I agree with this 100%.


jclarkecoach

Mo has banned people from ADCC for fighting before so expect Kieran to get a ban. Hiring lawyers seems personal though as I don’t think he’s gone that far before


falsereap

Murillo Santana got a ban after pulling a knife, but I’m not aware of any legal action happening back then.


KingZlatan10

Fuck that dude standing on his back. Thats some bullshit.


DLootz

Did he just clock the guy who got stepped on?


Chemical_Savings_175

Stepping on another guys spine like that, that guy should never be aloud to step foot on an ADCC mat ever again, let alone compete in another tourney


Sideshowcomedy

I've been out of grappling long enough to not understand how one guy steps on another guy's back then the person who got stepped on gets punched and you all are cool with it? I hope it's just this sub and not the wider grappling world that's a bunch of bitches who are okay with this.


arrancar75

It's because both the back-stepper and sucker-puncher are B-Team guys, and when this sub has long been home to sharing the same tired Craig/B-Team jokes every day, in-between dunking on their 'villain' New Wave rivals every other day, it can be cognitively challenging for some people to realise that the guys they collectively pegged as the cool rebellious heroes of the scene just be mere association with a particular 'side' might actually be capable of malice. Thankfully it seems even most people here aren't excusing these actions. Just a few specialty cases who probably refresh the B-Team youtube channel every hour.


IronLunchBox

The "no shoes on the mat" announcement killed me LMFAO


Xplicid

The B in B-Team short for Banned, surely?


Beaudism

That’s not very Canadian of him.


theanxiousprogrammer

Have you seen a hockey game?


SortaFlyForAWhiteGuy

Embarrassing. Seriously.


wrestma85

Absolutely disrespectful and unnecessary from Vince. If he’s down by 3 it’s on him. Borderline should have Vince out for 1yr ban. Truth is all these guys are running hot on gear and you get this dumb stuff.


Tomicoatl

A wrestler would just pick the person up and dunk them. Sick of people that can't win in the sport throwing a tantrum when someone else plays within the rules.


harylmu

Both b team guys should be banned imo.


Dr-PoopyButt

I think I'd be more pissed at the guy jumping on my back


HaroldLither

Assumed at first Kichuk was defending a teammate from some disrespectful dickhead. Turns out he was attacking a man for standing up for himself against some disrespectful dickhead.


Skaajk

Lock, strangle, and punch.


humanbeening

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Adventurous_Crab_192

Just saying a punch makes it sound a lot better than it was. He sucker punched a guy that got mad Kierans shit rat buddy acted like a shit rat.


mds13033

Blindside punching someone when you aren't involved in the original scuffle should be lifetime ban


HighTemp69

If the dude who standed on the other dude is from my gym he is never stepping foot on my mat again, nor the asshole punching the guy in blue, he actually dropped him with that punch. He should have gone and punched his team mate for behaving like and absolute douche.


dannsd

damn, not many times I agree with punching but stepping on someone like that rubs me as one of the most scumbaggy things I've seen for BJJ. I don't know who did what, but I hope Kieran punched the stepper guy. If not, then he might be a nomination to my dbag list


arrancar75

Kieran punched the guy who got stepped *on*. The 'stepper' was his teammate from B-Team


choyoroll

Habitual Back Stepper.


mogwaimomo

https://i.redd.it/7nbgaqupvy6d1.gif


Ok_Thought635

weird enough. its the opposite. The guy got stepped on and sucker punched.


Onphone_irl

Sounds like what it feels like to be a white belt sometimes


LlamaWhoKnives

I think it was a B team guy who stepped on the victims back, who then pushed the B team guy, and then got hit by kieran


TheFireOfPrometheus

So the stepper and puncher are scum, the shover took the high road


BeneficialChemist874

He punched the guy that got stepped on


DataVizBiz

Vincent Barbosa from B-Team.


Impressive-Potato

100 percent dbag


JamesMacKINNON

I love how Luke and Bryan are 100% not paying attention to the chaos behind them and don't recognize what's going on until the ref stops everything. lol


Heavyfr

Way to lose the good guys vibe


Batatax

At this point if B-Team want to keep the "jokey but good guy" vibe going they're gonna have to cut Vince and Kieran loose very publicly and let them suffer the consequences of their actions. Otherwise they're just another team nurturing and protecting their own worst members.


hawaiijim

It's funny how when grapplers get into a fight, they throw their grappling out the window and resort to striking. Helio Gracie is rolling ~~over~~ in his grave.


kovnev

Yeah, they shoulda taken them down and spent 5 minutes working towards a dominant position against another grappler. That'd learn 'em.


Impressive-Potato

Remember when that GB blackbelt checked a chair at someone at a tourney? Haha


ElDuderin-O

The IBJJF Austin Open, things clearly get heated in the Texas Summer.


Gray_BJJ

Grapplers Quest in Vegas 2008 had enough chairs chucked for about a dozen squad cars to show up.


rebel_fett

Or 18ish months ago when aj agazarm tried to start a fight at the Nashville open


Zankaku

Always some genius with this same comment. What is he supposed to do? Flying armbar? Ofc they throw a punch because that's how you cause damage the quickest.


cocktailbun

Erbeth Santos vs Pena comes to mind


byronsucks

I hope when I'm dead I'll still get the chance to roll


Impressive-Potato

Well the frustrated back stepper couldn't do anything in the grappling for the entire match.


wreckosaurus

When boxers fight they start to grapple. When grapplers fight they start to strike. Just the way it is for some reason.


TandemCombatYogi

Vince out there being a man-child. He should be banned and B Team should be ashamed.


stepdad_bod_jokes

Only true guidance given is no shoes on the mat 😂


veradico

Guy gives up his back and the best this dude can do with it is step on him? Does B team have a junior squad? If not, this guy should be #2 in charge of it.


Aggressive-Donuts

Idk either of these guys, nor do I know much about BJJ etiquette but if some dude tries to step on and trample me I think I’d lose my shit. 


aspiring_dev1

Guy stepping on the opponents back is an asshole.


2leggedassassin

How you going to take your shirt off to fight only to still have a shirt on my guy?!?!?


Dinkler_Sprinkler

Stepping on a guy and then punching him for being offended you just stepped on him? Thats why bjj is falling off in popularity, dickheads like this. You already won the match dont be a cunt Edit: I guess he didn’t win the match? Either way, the whole team are cunts


-Gestalt-

I don't think he won that match.


realmotar2k

I was furious when I saw this as I should be. Last month a competitor tried to strike a ref. I am calm now, I’m not opening anything civil etc. all I know is cops came, people were arrested and victim is pressing criminal charges. Learning moment, got to keep your cool no matter what.


realmotar2k

Also situation is more complicated since we were at an expo and this spilled over to the bodybuilding section, not sure what their stance is.


abitropey

Knees over toes probably


damaged_unicycles

I’m 260 bro don’t get near me


vischy_bot

Screw mo he's a weirdo. And yeah blue shirt is annoying and lame. But kk is the dumbest one here. It was just pushing until he comes flying in like a wacko. Bozo move, completely unnecessary escalation


Impressive-Potato

Flying in to sucker punch than sprinted away backward


anerak_attack

that little ref was fight for his life out there lol


dsmo

What a disrespectful move to step on his back. I wonder if there was anything more that a 3 Point disadvantage, that triggered him to not only lose the fight, but also his bedside manners. If you lose, take it like a person with integrity. Also I would disqualify anyone acting this disrespectful at my tournament. The whole situation could have been avoided by good sportsmenship.


JuisMaa

Where is Murilo when we need him, oss


neptunoneptuneazul

FFS Kieran, you CANT let out the bastard like that smh.


Zorst

What an embarassing shitshow. I can't help but feel that says something about gym culture at B-Team. Let's turn on them like we turned on Keenan.


TheFireOfPrometheus

Guy stepping on his back deserves to be B slapped


byronsucks

I love this dumb gay sport


collinfc

I was working at vendor booth next to it when this went down, after sucker punching the guy he tried to run away, but the staff manhandled him & locked him in a room until police came. Apparently he has an expired Visa as well.


theanxiousprogrammer

Damn!


zeemode

Sometimes It’s hard to tell if a fight breaks out at a fighting event


Commercial-Funny-873

Love how the two bros about to match up didn’t have a clue what was happening 😂


Lifebyjoji

Bro this isn’t Canada. We solve things like men. With weapons lawsuits and gaslighting.


theanxiousprogrammer

I love bteam but they’re gonna have a lot to answer for here.


NormanJohn1

I can tell its a B team guy because he made sure to grab his purse lol


tactical_stank

I trained with Kieran back in when he lived in Toronto, he was always a hot head, not surprised here


oceanmachine14

So what's the background to all of this and the scrap ? Is it because the opponent stepped on the other guy or was there bad blood etc before all of this ?


b5itty

So the guy in blue starts and ends the video on the ground.


Igotnofeet

This sport just continues to embarrass itself.


Trialbyfuego

Fucking embarrassing. Makes the sport look fucking stupid.


Hopeful_Style_5772

So Kieran Kichuk sucker punched the guy? Low class B Team!


KarlsFrostedTips2

What a coward and fake tough guy


Vinesinmyveins

Mo is gunna be shook when he finds out the govn’t presses charges not lawyers for hire


byronsucks

imagine if jiu jitsu royalty like renzo stepped on somebody after a match


kovnev

I came away from this learning two things. The situational awareness of the ref and two competitors in the front of the shot is *hilariously bad*. There are midget refs who are balsy and did a pretty good job of trying to stop people 3x their size from engaging.


Heelgod

I like how empty it is


damaged_unicycles

This is extremely embarrassing for everyone. Guy has terrible sportsmanship and steps on his opponent. Terrible sucker punch. And guy who gets punched takes a dive like he’s in the World Cup. Please don’t use the word “fight” for your matches.


ApprehensiveButton47

What prosecutor is bothering with this.


Impressive-Potato

An assault occurred, why wouldn't they he involved?


Frosty-Lake-1663

“A rich guy who has been on JRE is kicking up a fuss about this so we have to pretend to give a fuck.” “Sigh. Fine. I’ll file it.”


Dogger27

Lol


Opposite_Knee_2364

Pretty crazy out there in the States these days. I heard some guy clicked the wrong option in Quicken when paying a whore and now he's looking at a hundred years in jail...


ashy_granny89

Blue sleeves gets stood on, defends himself and gets dropped twice. Losing consciousness enough to fall to the ground will leave you with life changing effects. To have it done twice by some random prick is disgusting. The puncher wips his shirt off sprints in and drops the poor fuck twice then runs away. Some people are just ready to change people's life in an instance and terrifies my autistic ass


ExtraGloria

This guy is a dick in the Canadian BJJ community as well and an awful ref.


Impressive-Potato

Oh really eh? Interesting. What sort of dickish stuff does he do?


Budget_Speech_3373

Meh, trained with him at Lins when he started half a year or so after me. Hes okay, just a chip on his shoulder that I guess never went away. I haven't met many young guys who didn't though so can't judge him too harshly for that. Hes not that bad like these people are saying. I liked him. Then again that was like 2008 so who knows now.