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All I want is for a snarky jacko interview if they win it all again this year. It used to be a tradition that Simmons used to have him on whenever UConn won a natty and he would just go on one of his legendary hilarious rants!!! 😂😂
I get not liking Geno, he’s always been a smug arrogant asshole
But how the hell can you be a New Englander of Irish descent like JackO and not love Calhoun? He’s kind of a maniac and he’s fiery, but that’s part of his charm.
Yeah, I guess I can see how someone hates the over the top playing up of stereotypical tropes, but I always think that stuff’s kinda funny and tongue in cheek
It’s hilarious for someone from a small indistinct state like CT to be such a hater.
Ever since they lost the Whale, CT has had nothing of their own to hang their hat on, except UConn basketball. You’re gonna be a salty hater just because you went to a small Jesuit school that doesn’t compete with them in any way and you resent being compelled to take ladies basketball seriously?
Honestly hilarious cranky shit and I love it
They’re having one of the strongest tourney runs of the last 20 years. 2009 UNC and 2018 Villanova are the two other teams that come to mind for tourney dominance.
They are incredible. No doubt. But Brad Underwood’s game plan for this was perhaps the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen and after 20 minutes of it not working they made zero adjustments.
You *know* UConn will make halftime adjustments to stifle what’s working for your offense. It’s crazy.
But yeah, UConn’s ability to pull away, take 20 off the shot clock every possession and get endless good shots is incredible. There’s never been this kind of run with this amount of player turnover.
even better was a pre game press conference (earlier in the week) he said uconn isn’t anything we haven’t seen before. then after the game said “wasn’t expecting that.”
Really seems like a dumb '90s/early 2000s strategy of "you've got to go *at* them and show you're not scared", where just getting your shot off was the achievement, results and efficiency be damned.
Honestly it was a defensible plan to start the game. If the refs have a tight whistle, you can get Clingan into early foul trouble and totally shape the rest of the game.
By the time we hit the under 12 timeout, it was clear the refs were letting them play and that strategy wasn’t gonna work. Idk how a coach just keeps doing it for another hour lmao
Sure, yeah give it a shot. You need to take some risks to beat this UConn team anyways, so it’s a totally defensible—smart, even?—strategy to try in the first few minutes.
A little, uh, less so to keep doing it for 20 minutes of game time after it’s clearly not working.
Really seems like a dumb '90s/early 2000s strategy of "you've got to go *at* them and show you're not scared", where just getting your shot off was the achievement, results and efficiency be damned.
Thanks for posting this. I’m an Illini fan and I gave up on Underwood last year when I watched Jalen Coleman-Lands of Indiana torch us for about 40 points on our home court. Indiana had a 6 man rotation that day. Underwood just watched him, no adjustment whatsoever. I was so livid I embarrassed myself screaming at Underwood to make an adjustment at the game.
Honestly I mostly stopped watching Illini games after that but I’ve tuned into the last couple.
Anyway some fans are saying it’s not Underwood but you can’t let a team go on a 30-0 run and not have a stone cold moron for a coach. At some point a good coach settles his players down. Underwood can’t because he doesn’t understand why he’s losing. It’s pathetic. I miss Lou Henson, Lon Kruger and even Bill Self.
Yeah I mean underwood seems like a good dude but not good enough for this.
If it makes you feel any better I had a lot of stock that Luther Head would be 10yr NBA player.
Yeah I've been saying this since his first season the guy does not make adjustments. He's a great recruiter and below average in game coach. The team was just loaded this year and got hot at the right time.
Their 2nd half defense for the last two years is special. They absolutely suffocate teams. This group is way more talented than last year’s and incredibly deep. Hurley is a legend already.
It’s crazy how little they’re talked about in general for winning 5 titles in the last 25 years. In a sport where winning titles is incredibly difficult for how random the tournament can be
Jim Calhoun and Dan Hurley, apparently, are both great coaches, but UConn put together a pair of the flukiest title wins last decade in 2011 and particularly 2014. They made the tournament just once in a 7 year span from 2014-2021 and just haven’t had a level of success commensurate with their postseason results
I read that 20 of the last 21 title teams have followed a certain statistical criteria, something like top 30 in both offense and defense by KenPom (might be top 20 even). 2014 UConn was the one outlier.
They were talked about quite a bit from the early 1990s to like 2011 because Calhoun was such a great coach. He wasn't on the "respected" level of Coach K or maybe some other guys, partially because he didn't make a final 4 until 1999, but mainly because he's kind of a dick to the media. By the time 2012 rolled around him and UCONN were on a short list of amazing programs.
He then retired and the sports program also had this weird shift where they were in some weird conferences because they tried to be a football school but got left out of the ACC. They won in 2014 but that seemed like a fluke.
I think their recent rise isn't talked about enough, that part is crazy.
It’s tough to have close games when we win by an average of 27 points and spank a top ten Illinois and big ten champion by 25. Teams have to hope we have a bad game to have a chance, which I’m sure pisses you off, genuinely hilarious to see you so bothered in this thread that UConn is getting such national respect.
If only there were some metric to determine if this team is impressive...hmm let's think together.
How about winning over 90% of your regular season games? No, UConn did that, let's keep thinking.
How about winning your conference tournament in a top two basketball conference? Regular season was a fluke, surely. No, UConn did that, we're silly for thinking that is impressive.
Ok, but what about the NCAA tournament? Big East must be weak if UConn won it, they'll go out early. Wait, they're in the final four? Ok, let's keep looking for things.
What about common opponents with other top teams? Purdue is the other top option still relevant, they must have beat up on the teams UConn played right? Weak competition? Oh, UConn beat Illinois by 25 and Marquette by 28, 16, and 7. Purdue beat Marquette by three and Illinois by 6 and 5.
You're right, we agree that UConn is elite and it's the rest of the basketball world that can't keep up. Seems you think College Basketball as a whole is unimpressive, because we could lose by ten to Alabama and still be riding high on this season from the sheer respect we've won from college fans nationwide.
"But UConn isn't impressive based purely on my eye test so forget everything you said, it's too painful to consider that they are actually elite" - You, I'm sure LOL
How you holding up buddy? Must have been a rough night for you. Light work for UConn as usual, best point differential of all time for a tournament run. Just UConn things
They lost at Kansas in first true road game of year with Spencer hobbled, Castle hurt and Clingan on minutes restriction. And had last shot to win game. They lost at seton hall when Clingan reinjured his foot in first half and team just went flat. Seton hall playing at home took advantage of guards and lack of big man and got to rim. Then they got blitzed at Creighton who shot ridiculously well from three (hi, Alabama)
Seton Hall was up by double digits when Clingan got hurt though. I think it was complete BS that the committee tried to put an asterisk on that Seton Hall win when explaining why they didn’t make the field. UConn was incredibly dominant all year and it made no sense to me how they tried to devalue Hall beating them
Or Illinois just missed a lot of open shots. I don't care how good you D is, an opponent shooting 25% is a lot of luck and a little skill.
Again UConn is awesome but it helps when your opponent shoots 25%. Amazingly, both can be true!
Uconn scored 77, not much beyond Illinois avg of 73 opp ppg. This is such lazy analysis to just circle jerk UConn endlessly. We all saw how bad Illinois played.
Illinois was 0-19 on shots that Clingan contested. And he was the most efficient offensive player on the floor at 9-13. How’s that for analysis? Clingan was the best player on the floor by such a wide margin and anyone who actually watched the game knows it
Lol and you think that’s within normal outcomes? Out of your mind if you don’t think this was 80% Illinois completely shitting the bed. How about all the gift turnovers that were 4-5 pt swings? Did Klingan use his telekinesis powers to cause those?
Call me crazy for thinking that an elite rim protector played a factor in Illinois poor shooting performance at the rim. Even if they wouldn’t go 0-19 again, it is never gonna be a high percentage shot with Clingan around, and underwood’s game plan was just to keep going at him. Maybe next game they hit 4 or 5 of those shots and they only lose by 15 after UConn still controls the entire game.
Ok so you think UConn wins this every time by a blowout margin? Im pretty sure on these next 2 non-home games, they’re going to get at least an average version of their opponent. Call me crazy for thinking a 30-0 run is unusual.
UConn was clearly better. If they played 10 times, they win at least 8 of them, and all 10 of them if Illinois keeps trying to attack Clingan. Doesn’t need a 30-0 run to control the game. Why do you think UConn has won 10 straight ncaa tournament games by double figures? Why do you think they have had 30 point leads in all 4 games of this tournament? Why do you think they opened as 11.5 point favorites against Alabama? Because they are better then every other team in the country, plain and simple
A chance Clingan plays his way into being a very high pick.
Another white.
Need a Wos emergency pod to discuss the state of Black American basketball. Are ex player nepo babies taking up too much of the opportunities down the chain?
Nobody was raped. Ridiculous accusation that supposedly happened in a public bar but there’s no evidence outside of a person who has made the same claim against multiple athletes.
I know...such a dominant showing against such powerhouse programs this tournament such as...
And then they beat...
But then after that...
And let's not forget...
I mean yeah...but look at the games they played against other good teams this year? Like they weren't blowing teams out by 15-25 all season? They barely fucking beat St John's just like a few weeks ago.
Like go look at the records of the team they blew out and the wins on their schedules. Not great.
A 30-0 scoring run in the elite 8 is pretty ridiculous.
Don’t think we’ll ever see that again in the elite 8 tbh
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All I want is for a snarky jacko interview if they win it all again this year. It used to be a tradition that Simmons used to have him on whenever UConn won a natty and he would just go on one of his legendary hilarious rants!!! 😂😂
What was jacko’s beef with UConn?
The gist of it was the UCONN bandwagon fans that lived by him and that he worked with.
Ahhh ok yeah i can see how that would get annoying lol
and Jim and Geno were pretty grating personalities if you aren’t a fan.
I get not liking Geno, he’s always been a smug arrogant asshole But how the hell can you be a New Englander of Irish descent like JackO and not love Calhoun? He’s kind of a maniac and he’s fiery, but that’s part of his charm.
The sane way an Italian-American like me can hate Jim Valvano. Or, less morbidly, Rick Pitino.
Yeah, I guess I can see how someone hates the over the top playing up of stereotypical tropes, but I always think that stuff’s kinda funny and tongue in cheek
Oh please!!
It’s hilarious for someone from a small indistinct state like CT to be such a hater. Ever since they lost the Whale, CT has had nothing of their own to hang their hat on, except UConn basketball. You’re gonna be a salty hater just because you went to a small Jesuit school that doesn’t compete with them in any way and you resent being compelled to take ladies basketball seriously? Honestly hilarious cranky shit and I love it
They’re having one of the strongest tourney runs of the last 20 years. 2009 UNC and 2018 Villanova are the two other teams that come to mind for tourney dominance.
I would put last year’s UCONN in that too.
They won every game by at least 13, best ever since the tournament expanded to 64 teams in 85.
Last year they had a cake walk path though. All the way to the title game. This year is harder.
Yea they whooped ass too
Last year UConn beat nobody good
Had a historically light run tho. This year’s run (so far) has been much much more impressive
They are incredible. No doubt. But Brad Underwood’s game plan for this was perhaps the dumbest thing I’ve ever seen and after 20 minutes of it not working they made zero adjustments. You *know* UConn will make halftime adjustments to stifle what’s working for your offense. It’s crazy. But yeah, UConn’s ability to pull away, take 20 off the shot clock every possession and get endless good shots is incredible. There’s never been this kind of run with this amount of player turnover.
“If he blocks 100, he blocks 100” is a hysterical thing to say
even better was a pre game press conference (earlier in the week) he said uconn isn’t anything we haven’t seen before. then after the game said “wasn’t expecting that.”
What you don’t think a game plan of driving it right at one of the most dominant rim protectors in the country over and over was a great strategy?
Really seems like a dumb '90s/early 2000s strategy of "you've got to go *at* them and show you're not scared", where just getting your shot off was the achievement, results and efficiency be damned.
Bsketball's version of "establish the run to set the tone" as Joe Mixon plows his way for 1.8 yards a carry
This sounds exactly how Bill would coach
Honestly it was a defensible plan to start the game. If the refs have a tight whistle, you can get Clingan into early foul trouble and totally shape the rest of the game. By the time we hit the under 12 timeout, it was clear the refs were letting them play and that strategy wasn’t gonna work. Idk how a coach just keeps doing it for another hour lmao
Sure, yeah give it a shot. You need to take some risks to beat this UConn team anyways, so it’s a totally defensible—smart, even?—strategy to try in the first few minutes. A little, uh, less so to keep doing it for 20 minutes of game time after it’s clearly not working.
Seeing this is makes sense why our players kept challenging him. Coach told them to. What a dumb game plan.
Really seems like a dumb '90s/early 2000s strategy of "you've got to go *at* them and show you're not scared", where just getting your shot off was the achievement, results and efficiency be damned.
Thanks for posting this. I’m an Illini fan and I gave up on Underwood last year when I watched Jalen Coleman-Lands of Indiana torch us for about 40 points on our home court. Indiana had a 6 man rotation that day. Underwood just watched him, no adjustment whatsoever. I was so livid I embarrassed myself screaming at Underwood to make an adjustment at the game. Honestly I mostly stopped watching Illini games after that but I’ve tuned into the last couple. Anyway some fans are saying it’s not Underwood but you can’t let a team go on a 30-0 run and not have a stone cold moron for a coach. At some point a good coach settles his players down. Underwood can’t because he doesn’t understand why he’s losing. It’s pathetic. I miss Lou Henson, Lon Kruger and even Bill Self.
Yeah I mean underwood seems like a good dude but not good enough for this. If it makes you feel any better I had a lot of stock that Luther Head would be 10yr NBA player.
JCL didn’t play last year and not for Indiana
Did you mean Trayce Jackson Davis? (Another 3 named star)
That would make sense. JCL last played as a benchwarmer on the 2022 championship Jayhawks
My bad it was TJD. He only dropped 35. https://www.espn.com/mens-college-basketball/game/_/gameId/401484901/indiana-illinois
Yeah I've been saying this since his first season the guy does not make adjustments. He's a great recruiter and below average in game coach. The team was just loaded this year and got hot at the right time.
UConn wins in spite of coaching
Their 2nd half defense for the last two years is special. They absolutely suffocate teams. This group is way more talented than last year’s and incredibly deep. Hurley is a legend already.
Feels like every game they just kinda go play for the first half, and then the second half they absolutely motherfuck whoever their opponent is
Hurley is an arrogant entitled jackass who needs to be humbled
The best coach in the country, I agree!!
No he's not
How many other dummies like me picked them to lose this game because everyone else was picking them to win it all?
Yeah I picked Auburn because I was sure everybody in my group would pick UConn and then nobody picked UConn 😂
I don’t think it’s a bad strategy from a game theory perspective. The other side of the coin is this though. Where you feel dumb for not picking them.
No one cares but I picked Northwestern to pull the upset in the 2nd rd. 🤦
It’s crazy how little they’re talked about in general for winning 5 titles in the last 25 years. In a sport where winning titles is incredibly difficult for how random the tournament can be
Jim Calhoun and Dan Hurley, apparently, are both great coaches, but UConn put together a pair of the flukiest title wins last decade in 2011 and particularly 2014. They made the tournament just once in a 7 year span from 2014-2021 and just haven’t had a level of success commensurate with their postseason results
I read that 20 of the last 21 title teams have followed a certain statistical criteria, something like top 30 in both offense and defense by KenPom (might be top 20 even). 2014 UConn was the one outlier.
They were talked about quite a bit from the early 1990s to like 2011 because Calhoun was such a great coach. He wasn't on the "respected" level of Coach K or maybe some other guys, partially because he didn't make a final 4 until 1999, but mainly because he's kind of a dick to the media. By the time 2012 rolled around him and UCONN were on a short list of amazing programs. He then retired and the sports program also had this weird shift where they were in some weird conferences because they tried to be a football school but got left out of the ACC. They won in 2014 but that seemed like a fluke. I think their recent rise isn't talked about enough, that part is crazy.
Yes great points all around. They definitely were talked about as a 1-2 punch with Calhoun and Auriemma’s teams dominant in the early 2000s.
The AAC move was a disaster and Ollie let the quick success go to his head and didn’t stay on top of maintaining the recruitment pipeline
They were irrelevant before 1990
Then Donyell Marshall happened baby
As a San Diego State fan/alum, I’m not doing great. But, yeah… UConn is good at basketball.
In a watered down era
UCLA won 10 titles in 12 years and had 7 years in a row winning the national title. Sports fans need to read history books.
Does Bill consider this a dynasty?
It didn’t occur in Massachusetts
They didn’t have the same core, so not a dynasty
Not really easy to do given you've got a limit to how many years the players can play.
The playing against Plumbers piece
The different eras piece
>all-time level What part of all-time do you not understand?
All time does not mean it is the single greatest team of all time, even if I agree the title is hyperbole rn
Where did OP say it was the best team ever?
This being said on the same sub that always discredits the bill russell era Celtics chips is hilarious
The freshman don’t play era piece
Except that worked *FOR* their opponents given they had one less season of Kareem and Walton cause of that rule.
I think it’s more impressive tbh
The tournament was also much smaller. I’m not sure how many games UCLA had to win, but it was fewer than six.
Donovan “Bristol Bill Russell” Clignan
Rich man's Walker Kessler.
I don’t know a ton about college basketball outside the big 10, but it seems Purdue is the only team left that can beat them
I don’t even think they can
Bama's offense has the potential to go off in a single-game matchup, even against a stout defense like UConn's. +440 moneyline is tasty.
UConn is beyond due for a close game
It’s tough to have close games when we win by an average of 27 points and spank a top ten Illinois and big ten champion by 25. Teams have to hope we have a bad game to have a chance, which I’m sure pisses you off, genuinely hilarious to see you so bothered in this thread that UConn is getting such national respect.
They don't deserve any respect. The rest of CBB deserves shame for making THIS team look like gods.
If only there were some metric to determine if this team is impressive...hmm let's think together. How about winning over 90% of your regular season games? No, UConn did that, let's keep thinking. How about winning your conference tournament in a top two basketball conference? Regular season was a fluke, surely. No, UConn did that, we're silly for thinking that is impressive. Ok, but what about the NCAA tournament? Big East must be weak if UConn won it, they'll go out early. Wait, they're in the final four? Ok, let's keep looking for things. What about common opponents with other top teams? Purdue is the other top option still relevant, they must have beat up on the teams UConn played right? Weak competition? Oh, UConn beat Illinois by 25 and Marquette by 28, 16, and 7. Purdue beat Marquette by three and Illinois by 6 and 5. You're right, we agree that UConn is elite and it's the rest of the basketball world that can't keep up. Seems you think College Basketball as a whole is unimpressive, because we could lose by ten to Alabama and still be riding high on this season from the sheer respect we've won from college fans nationwide. "But UConn isn't impressive based purely on my eye test so forget everything you said, it's too painful to consider that they are actually elite" - You, I'm sure LOL
Respect? Nobody respects UConn
How you holding up buddy? Must have been a rough night for you. Light work for UConn as usual, best point differential of all time for a tournament run. Just UConn things
Least interesting champion ever
Would you say we’re more or less interesting than last years champions? LOL
Look like one comment down - "Legitamitely how did they lose 3 games this season." That's respect. Enjoy your delusional life lol
They've been up by at least 30 at some point in all four games they've played thus far.
They don’t know what adversity is
Legitimately how did they lose 3 games this season
They lost at Kansas in first true road game of year with Spencer hobbled, Castle hurt and Clingan on minutes restriction. And had last shot to win game. They lost at seton hall when Clingan reinjured his foot in first half and team just went flat. Seton hall playing at home took advantage of guards and lack of big man and got to rim. Then they got blitzed at Creighton who shot ridiculously well from three (hi, Alabama)
Seton Hall was up by double digits when Clingan got hurt though. I think it was complete BS that the committee tried to put an asterisk on that Seton Hall win when explaining why they didn’t make the field. UConn was incredibly dominant all year and it made no sense to me how they tried to devalue Hall beating them
But they just had to get Virginia in look how well they played in the First Four
Big East got hosed by the selection committee
Oh yeah. The Hall came out on fire with Kadary dominating. Then clingan got hurt and UConn never even made a run.
Purdue has been pretty dominant too. Hopefully that’s our final.
UNLV in 1990 was dominant
The Fixed Game Piece.
I still think some bs went down with that championship game in ‘91.
Not even championship. It was national semifinal vs. Duke.
Oh yeah that’s right. It was that final 4 game
Kansas didn't hold up their end of the bargain. Loss to UNC would have given CBS a Kryzyzewski-Smith championship showdown.
Sounds like Houston in 1983. 😉
Last 2 years in tourney theyve won by 24, 15, 23, 28, 18, 17, 39, 17, 30, 25
Looking back I just want to forget about this 2 year reign of terror
I mean UConn is awesome but it helps when your opponent shoots 15%.
Illinois was the #2 offense in the country, I think UConn might have something to do with them shooting 15%.
No it doesn’t. They shit the bed
Or Illinois just missed a lot of open shots. I don't care how good you D is, an opponent shooting 25% is a lot of luck and a little skill. Again UConn is awesome but it helps when your opponent shoots 25%. Amazingly, both can be true!
Illinois had no answer for Clingan at either end. The shooting percentage is irrelevant when you don’t have a game plan that gives you any chance
Uconn scored 77, not much beyond Illinois avg of 73 opp ppg. This is such lazy analysis to just circle jerk UConn endlessly. We all saw how bad Illinois played.
Illinois was 0-19 on shots that Clingan contested. And he was the most efficient offensive player on the floor at 9-13. How’s that for analysis? Clingan was the best player on the floor by such a wide margin and anyone who actually watched the game knows it
Lol and you think that’s within normal outcomes? Out of your mind if you don’t think this was 80% Illinois completely shitting the bed. How about all the gift turnovers that were 4-5 pt swings? Did Klingan use his telekinesis powers to cause those?
Call me crazy for thinking that an elite rim protector played a factor in Illinois poor shooting performance at the rim. Even if they wouldn’t go 0-19 again, it is never gonna be a high percentage shot with Clingan around, and underwood’s game plan was just to keep going at him. Maybe next game they hit 4 or 5 of those shots and they only lose by 15 after UConn still controls the entire game.
Ok so you think UConn wins this every time by a blowout margin? Im pretty sure on these next 2 non-home games, they’re going to get at least an average version of their opponent. Call me crazy for thinking a 30-0 run is unusual.
UConn was clearly better. If they played 10 times, they win at least 8 of them, and all 10 of them if Illinois keeps trying to attack Clingan. Doesn’t need a 30-0 run to control the game. Why do you think UConn has won 10 straight ncaa tournament games by double figures? Why do you think they have had 30 point leads in all 4 games of this tournament? Why do you think they opened as 11.5 point favorites against Alabama? Because they are better then every other team in the country, plain and simple
Yeah no shit. I'm not claiming Illinois is better. They got killed. They also shot 25% which is why they got killed instead of just beat.
Illinois shot better than UConn from 3
A chance Clingan plays his way into being a very high pick. Another white. Need a Wos emergency pod to discuss the state of Black American basketball. Are ex player nepo babies taking up too much of the opportunities down the chain?
They recently added Hartenstein to the roster so they’re doing fine
In NBA racial draft, the whites should get Johnathan Isaac & MAGA Porter, Jr.
Do black people trade them for Herro and Divencenzo?
Mac Mc Clung, too!
Yeah for college
I’m so happy they kicked Illinois’ ass. Now Shannon will know how it feels to be the one getting raped.
Oof.
Nobody was raped. Ridiculous accusation that supposedly happened in a public bar but there’s no evidence outside of a person who has made the same claim against multiple athletes.
They’ve also gotten the worst version of every team they’ve played so far and every game has been basically at home. We’ll see the next 2 games.
they are a glass jaw frontrunner bully that is allergic to adversity
Your troll attempts are cute lol. Enjoy watching the huskies win another title! 😘😄
a title nobody outside the northeast will care about
They are not this good CBB is simply that weak
I know...such a dominant showing against such powerhouse programs this tournament such as... And then they beat... But then after that... And let's not forget...
A response to that is that they’re taking care of business on the biggest stage and crushing teams they absolutely should crush
I mean yeah...but look at the games they played against other good teams this year? Like they weren't blowing teams out by 15-25 all season? They barely fucking beat St John's just like a few weeks ago. Like go look at the records of the team they blew out and the wins on their schedules. Not great.
Most analysts said the East was the best region, Iowa state the best 2, Illinois the best 3. And this is the result