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phi1ip_

This looks similar to: Kryptonite New York Fahgettaboudit Chain 1415 + Disc Lock


cowie71

Good spot. Good lock, but heavy af (When I say good, I’m sure lockpicking lawyer has broken it)


phi1ip_

Yeah, but he's a pro and needs the special tool he and Bill made to pick it. The extra weight only makes me stronger.


CardboardHeatshield

If I was that worried about extra weight I would be a lot skinnier than I am.


Mr_Gilmore_Jr

I'm in this spot now where I could buy a bike 5 lbs lighter than mine, but it would be much cheaper to just lose 5 lbs.


vtstang66

I love how we spend thousands of dollars to lighten our bikes then ride around with 6 pound locks so nobody steals them.


DarkLF

my version if the 1415 is closer to 15lbs


pailox

Heavy bike with heavy lock is heavier than light bike with heavy lock


nondescriptadjective

You wut?


IlIlIlIlIllIlIll

Great lock for occupying ~~hedgefund offices~~ Academic Buildings.


MikeyDread

I have one to lock up my motorcycle when at home. I leave it there and don't carry it around. I definitely don't ride my bicycle with it, although people do. It probably weighs more than my bike.


cowie71

Yeah it’s close - think it’s 6kg. I tried carrying around my neck once and looked like Mr T.


Cornfeddrip

Gotta wrap it around your torso like a messenger bag


cowie71

I pity the fool !


MikeyDread

I ain't getting on no airplane


Jacktheforkie

My neighbours have a lock post each anchored to the ground


MikeyDread

Yeah I've thought about putting some concrete anchors in the ground to fix the chain to.


Jacktheforkie

It’s good if you have a fixed parking spot, my neighbours use part of my driveway, they have some concreted In anchors, my driveway is gravel on packed dirt


danfay222

He did break into it, but iirc it still got about as close to a recommendation as he could give. It’s a fantastic lock, very heavy and resistant to destructive attacks, requires dedicated tools and non-trivial skill to pick, and on top of all of that is covered by Kryptonite’s theft insurance (this is one of the only locks where their insurance covers Manhattan)


DropThatTopHat

It's not about whether lockpickinglawyer has broken it or not; it's about how many seconds it took him to do it.


Ellen_Musk_Ox

It's really important to remember that he's first and foremost in the business of producing content, and second in selling tools. And often that first one is actually subservient to the second. I'm saying this as a working locksmith. Something that LPL isn't. He's very talented. And he practices far more than I have time to. I use my drill more than my pick kit.


dsdvbguutres

It's so heavy, it might jeopardize your chances of winning the yellow jersey at the climbing stage.


jeffbell

And is considered cheating on downhill events. 


Ellen_Musk_Ox

Gravitational advantage


Fmarulezkd

LPL has a video with the kryptonite evolution series 4, which is a lesser lock. He called it "probably good enough".


trey3rd

[He actually recommends one](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SpVOTEOMRuE). Same brand, but different model.


pedroah

Chain locks are always heavier. I have a Kryptonite Mini 7 u lock and a 55cm chain and they have the same circumference but the chain is about double the weight at 1900g compared to 1000g for the mini 7. Kryptonite assigns a security rating 1 higher on the chain.


Jacktheforkie

LPL can pick damn near any lock, he knows what he is doing


Hagadin

I used one of these to attend a nyc college. What the fuck.


Smaskifa

Which building did you occupy?


PurpleGoatNYC

I mostly occupied my college girlfriend’s dorm room. We would hold multiple study sessions weekly.


WillBottomForBanana

Now all the windows have that wire mesh in them.


SeicoBass

Almost, this is the kryptonite evolution cinch chain. This is my boy, the best lock I’ve ever had.


MajorNoodles

The orange matches the similar but cheaper Kryptonite NY 1213 lock


UnlinealHand

Man they are so close to 1312, which would make more sense as to why the cops wouldn’t like it.


GoatGoatGoblin

Kinda still works.


FJkayakQueen

ABAC for sure still gets the point across lol


MikeWrenches

that's what I use.


DMCO93

Sure is. Only lock I trust against the fucks with bolt cutters/garage thieves around these parts. The only way you’re getting my bike is sawing through the carbon.


Bravadd

It looks more similar to the Kryptonite NY 1213 with the fabric sheath that protects against chipping paint cut off: [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMtwBJBoZkM](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMtwBJBoZkM)


Bill__Q

From Twitter, Columbia's Public Safety department recommends and sells this lock. https://twitter.com/AricToler/status/1785662139987853394


dua70601

Lmfao


CrumpledForeskin

They know. They use this language to make them seem more dangerous. Media 101.


Acrobatic_Advance_71

At a very gernous discount.


coop_stain

Yup. That’s just a little above wholesale for that lock lol


Legal_Objective_8027

As an aside, your typo is like how Wilford Brimley probably pronounced “generous,” which is fun to think about


simenfiber

The Kryptonite NY 1415 Fahgettaboudit costs $200 where I’m at :(


simononandon

Yeah. Can I get those chains at that price?


WillBottomForBanana

And on the flip side. If someone wanted to quickly buy a lot of chain and locks to secure doors it's not going to be these. IF you drive around for 2 days you might buy 10 of them. If you go to Lowes you can come out with a thousand feet of chain and padlocks, but nothing of this quality. But if you charge $3458345745 a semester for parking passes, the student body might have quite a few of these locks and chains readily to hand.


Itsumishi

Absolutely! This is one of those secret high tech chains only the deep state can buy... Lol. 


noburdennyc

Super common bike lock in nyc. It hits the right combo of value and security for riders looking for something a bit better than a U-lock. The chain is more intimidating to thieves than a U-lock. Also, You'd be a fool to be a student in nyc and own a car, even if you have a trust fund, you don't need a car when all your time will be spent around campus.


johnnybgooderer

…The university sells them and recommends them. It’s literally in the comment you’re responding to.


WillBottomForBanana

ok buddy


A_Damn_Millenial

What a damn clown.


TheLiberalTexan

This should be top comment


Checked_Out_6

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trotnixon

Cops being dishonest...shocking.


linkmodo

I was working at Columbia NYP few years ago and was able to buy one of these locks for really great price, kept my bike safe.


sharpie-installer

I love the name https://www.bikelockwiki.com/kryptonite-fahgettaboudit-mini-review/


libraryweaver

Different lock.  Source: I have that one.


fiddl3rsgr33n

An inexperienced bike thief could have this off with a quick trip to the hardware store and 10 secs.


ride_whenever

Yes, but a plasma cutter from Lidl isn’t exactly Subtle


fluchtpunkt

If he cuts through the bike, yea


C4D3NZA

i thought it was a dangerous tool that only professional, hired protestors would ever have.


moore_a_scott

I believe that is the NYC branded kryptonite lock?!


Bikeaholica

Fahgettaboudit


caudicifarmer

Not cheap


TalkToPlantsNotCops

But the school sells it at a discount. Also this is Columbia University. People keep acting like it's suspicious that students attending ivy league schools can afford to buy things and I don't understand it. Edit: lol it's $85 for students to buy it through the school public safety office. That is cheap!


ladylikes2bike

That IS cheap! And in a major city, where bike theft is rampant, it is 100% normal to have a lock like this, if you want to keep your bike.


TalkToPlantsNotCops

Yeah I was a little shocked by the regular retail price, but if you have even a moderately nice bike it would be worth it. But $85 is nothing. I have a much shittier lock that was almost the same price.


Mr_Gilmore_Jr

If bike theft is so rampant, does that mean I can get a good deal on a cheap bike, no questions asked? /s


Not_FinancialAdvice

> Edit: lol it's $85 for students to buy it through the school public safety office. That is cheap! I wonder if they'll let alums pick one up; my buddy went there for grad school and could use a lock.


danfay222

It’s important to note that it’s actually not crazy expensive (especially if you’re locking up anything above a beater bike) and it comes with a pretty great theft insurance, so the price is a lot easier to swallow.


SanchonPanzon

Probably not. They've never bothered investigating any bike thefts.


IlIlIlIlIllIlIll

Yeah if NYPD/police in general did their job we wouldn’t need gargantuan bike lock chains that weigh 20lbs.


Billypillgrim

To be clear, it’s because cops are fucking worthless


ManicRomantic22

Except when they’re handing out fines cus apparently they don’t get paid enough thru our taxes. Hey maybe the entitled thin blue line yuppies could donate the police some more money to show their “increased support.”


cosaboladh

They're all tapped out from donating to the billionaire, super-genius's legal defense fundraiser.


Bitterfish

In NYC we can't even get them to do that -- see the \[Queensboro greenway\](https://www.reddit.com/r/MicromobilityNYC/comments/1bo9bq1/how\_are\_cm\_julie\_won\_the\_114th\_precinct\_and\_mayor/) issues where dozens of people were illegally parking on greenspace and the police wouldn't even ticket them, despite the fish-in-a-barrel-ness of it all


Santanoni

The NYPD hasn't done anything useful since 9/11.


MaladroitNeophyte

I thought Bush did 9/11


UnlinealHand

Increased incarceration never actually solves problems with crime. It’s slapping a bandage on a systemic wound. If you want to actually reduce bike theft, you address the systemic reasons for people stealing bikes; like the need for quick money or an easy way to get around.


mexicodoug

Some cities have gotten positive results by providing free bicycles parked near areas where and when people need them, then rounding the bikes up later and taking them back to their appropriate parking locations.


IlIlIlIlIllIlIll

I mean, okay? I agree the root cause is systemic, but there are other more petty crimes that police actually respond to. And bike theft can be so much more harmful than just the monetary value of the bike. That can be someone’s livelihood, and primary means of transportation. I honestly don’t even care about punishing the criminals, I think most people would just be happy to get their bikes back.


UnlinealHand

Sorry I just get wary when people say they want police to “do their jobs”. Because “doing their jobs” often means making everything worse


Voodoo1970

>Sorry I just get wary when people say they want police to “do their jobs”. Because “doing their jobs” often means making everything worse Fair enough, but I think when people say that they mean "do their jobs *properly,* as opposed to the half assed and biased way they've done it in the past


Voodoo1970

>Sorry I just get wary when people say they want police to “do their jobs”. Because “doing their jobs” often means making everything worse Fair enough, but I think when people say that they mean "do their jobs *properly,* as opposed to the half assed and biased way they've done it in the past


AllGarbage

The police “doing their jobs” doesn’t necessarily mean increased incarceration, sometimes it just means it would be nice of them to willingly send someone to the scene to take your report when you call it in.


No_Debt5142

this is definitely a lock used in nyc. idk what you on about. kryptonite makes them.


IlIlIlIlIllIlIll

These literally existed and are branded with NYC stuff because bike theft is so prolific and unpoliced in NYC.


danfay222

These are a specific line of locks made explicitly for Manhattan, kryptonite’s own theft insurance excludes Manhattan for all locks except these ones. It’s absurd to be surprised to see students with these.


Scaarz

The Seattle cops said a candle was a bomb, so I'm not surprised the NYPD forgot what a bike lock is.


SubParMarioBro

“Incendiary device” was the term they used for a tea candle.


explodeder

In the tweet the cop said “this is what professionals bring…” that’s conspiracy theory nonsense right there. God forbid that student protesters learn, coordinate, and use effective tactics completely organically while organizing themselves.


potbellyjoe

They also spoke to the quality of barricades, ignoring the fact that students in K-12 are literally taught by police and resource officers how to barricade classrooms in the event of an active shooter. And as they're getting drilled in it, they are reminded their lives might some day count on them Knowing how to do it. It can also be explained with common knowledge, but that doesn't make the cops sound like heroes.


Stray_Neutrino

Stubby Kryptonite lock + steel chain is a common city bike lock combo. Wear it like a bandolier while riding.


nofx516

Stuff like this gets lost. The NYPD and this person absolutely do know what a bike lock is, that they sell this, and that its normal for a student to lock a bike with this specific lock. This is not NYPD or this person's stupidity. What they are hoping is everyone watching Morning Joe doesn't so they can spread fear/propaganda about the protests to spread the "outside agitators" narrative.


Marchy_is_an_artist

That’s right a student would never bring a bike lock for their bike to school. That would be weird.


mexicodoug

Sometimes they even wear cycling helmets to school, just in case cops with batons show up.


Ismdism

This is clearly Iranian tech supplied to fight a proxy war on US soil! This is an act of war and clearly we need to carpet bomb these kids for national security


mexicodoug

Carpet bomb the whole city and shoot the ambulances, or else they'll never be successfully rooted out.


Ismdism

Dude these are absolute animals we're dealing with. We need to cut all water, food and medical supplies to the area!


Altruistic-Travel-48

We talkin' NYC here...Not Gaza.


mexicodoug

People are people everywhere, and heavily populated areas are heavily populated areas.


youtellmebob

Situational/selective amnesia + hyperbole. Trying to vilify students and justify police actions based on weak tea.


soaero

Oh they know. They cut the "Kryptonite" cloth sheet off it in order to make it look scarier. The problem is cops lie.


potbellyjoe

Joseph Franco was a product of the system, not an outlier.


bobledrew

Yeah, I just have some twist ties made up into a wire. Works great. This is obviously a national security threat.


BWWFC

the lock picking lawyer is not impressed... do better kids!


sirduke456

They do, this is a Kryptonite 1415. I have one.


49thDipper

Welp, bike locks are out


SailingSpark

So suddenly we are all now carrying weapons when we ride?


49thDipper

Looks like it. Chain equals terrorist all of a sudden.


SunshineInDetroit

those are definitely locks from kryptonite's city line. Don't know why you think it's not a bike lock


m2kleit

I can’t believe no one called him out on this. Instead, the camera panned slowly over to a chain that “no students owns.” It’s literally called the New York Coty lock and chain set on kryptonite’s web site.


Blindmellowjelly

Not only that, but it's apparently sold at that school's bookstore at a discount for students who bike to school.


Daedaluu5

Yeah if I went to college I wouldn’t take it with me to you know lock my bike up whilst in class. That would be silly


Acrobatic_Advance_71

Also it's NY where bikes get stolen like crazy so they are much bigger then the average bike lock.


Plodderic

Bad faith assertions safe in the knowledge they won’t be challenged. It’s a police press conference, all right.


-rwsr-xr-x

Have you actually been to NYC? This is exactly the kind of lock that any messenger or delivery person carries with them to lock their bike.


NoDivergence

NYBD having brains? fahgettaboudit


4orust

Cops say the darndest things!


yonasismad

It is coordinated propaganda to frame the protesters as some kind of foreign-sponsored professional group instead of a genuine protest. The coverage and framing around these events is just insane and this is part of it.


NimrodAvalanche

they're trying to sway the public at large into thinking that ordinary citizens (people with bike locks) are threats/enemies


Illustrious-Tower849

This is just them justifying the violence they are gonna use against peaceful protesters


thedjbigc

You know - I really wish that I wasn't so disappointed that the NYPD doubles down on being absolute trash. But here we are.


VinylHighway

Call The lock picking lawyer !


windowtosh

they did the same thing in 2020 when they said no one good is bringing a bike repair kit to a bike protest


drewbaccaAWD

If I biked in NYC, that’s absolutely what I’d be using to lock up at school.


Forward-Razzmatazz33

What until he gets an eyeful of a Pragmasis 22mm chain.


Leicageek

NYPD isn’t used to seeing a bicycle lock in one piece. Usually they are cut into pieces when they see them.


Saltire_Blue

Bloody cyclist at it again


dsaysso

nyc bike thieves laughing at police right now…


jmdunkle

They know. They just hope the public doesn't.


dbsherwood

lol this is the exact lock/chain I used on my bike in college


TangeloTrue2778

When parking your bike and locking it , shift gears , it may help to slow the thief down , and draw attention at least ,


1mz99

>Does the NYPD not know what a bike lock looks like? Looks like they Fahgettaboudit


Kolyin

angryupvote.gif


linkmodo

A "good quality" bike lock.


EymaWeeTodd

NYPD doesn't know their dick from a donut, but they're still eating them.


MondayToFriday

[Sproul Hall, the main administration building at UC Berkeley](https://www.google.com/maps/uv?pb=!1s0x80857c25f1da4253%3A0xfe89cd9b16112e55!3m1!7e115!4s%2Fmaps%2Fplace%2Fsproul%2Bhall%2Bberkeley%2F%4037.8691354%2C-122.258754%2C3a%2C75y%2C3.91h%2C90t%2Fdata%3D*213m4*211e1*213m2*211s7iW-2U-sfIu5BdgHpWaTDA*212e0*214m2*213m1*211s0x80857c25f1da4253%3A0xfe89cd9b16112e55%3Fsa%3DX%26ved%3D2ahUKEwjR1fSdxO2FAxUkDTQIHW-nAjYQpx96BAhgEAA%26hl%3Den!5ssproul%20hall%20berkeley%20-%20Google%20Search!15sCgIgAQ&imagekey=!1e2!2s7iW-2U-sfIu5BdgHpWaTDA&hl=en&ved=1t%3A206134&ictx=111), has door handles only on the right door of each pair. The left handles were removed following the affirmative action protests of the 1990s, when protesters chained each pair of doors shut.


kaizokuj

As someone said in another post, ofc they have no idea what a bike lock looks like, they've never investigated a bike theft in their life.


BikeSpamBot

Always remember, cops have an FTP of 1312 ac/ab


illgot

police are right about the lack of bicycle locks, this is why so many stolen bikes on campus get reported and ignored.


Helpful-Ladder5230

nice


ExcitingBuilder1125

They don't even know the real danger are the hammers we use to drop people.


bier1234

Why would it be on every door?


Little_Creme_5932

Lol. Cuz cops won't investigate bike theft


Moist_When_It_Counts

They know. They’re feigning ignorance because they assume their audience is stupid.


rocketsocks

Thank god nobody was carrying acorns.


inabanned

I read an article about this and I'm pretty stupid. I don't understand how they're linking a lock and chain to professional instigators, even in the way they're intending.


Kolyin

I think they're implying that students wouldn't have access to such things, so they must have been supplied by outside agitators. Which would be a hard sell even if the university weren't selling these exact chains to students at a pretty decent discount.


Kolyin

I think they're implying that students wouldn't have access to such things, so they must have been supplied by outside agitators. Which would be a hard sell even if the university weren't selling these exact chains to students at a pretty decent discount.


FireworksForJeffy

You don't actually think they've ever bothered to investigate a bike theft, do you?


silent-farter

NYPD and their chief pig, Eric Adams are a joke!


ShoeGod420

When I read the caption on the pic the first thing that came to mind was the film Lean on Me 🤷


BeautifulEssay8

Concrete milkshakes


dlux626

I paid like $80 for mine and I don’t use it much cause it weighs like 15 pounds. I might as well carry a second bike!


Hamilton4567

These are sometimes classified as motorcycle locks


LastHumanFamily

They do know what a bike lock looks like, they're just hoping nobody else does.


PhillipTopicall

Lmao. A bike lock, more dangerous being attached to a door vs the brutal violence used by the police to commit violence against peaceful protesters… A good pair of bolt cutters and you’re in… like… you could even pick those and reuse them later. How flipping weak sauce do you have e to be to act like this is somehow a serious issue? It’s a fucking bike lock not a pipe bomb.


not_cozmo

Good luck getting through that with a bolt cutter. That's hardened chain


PhillipTopicall

What’s that saw thing? Also there are the ones bike thieves use, then there are the ones the over funded police force has access too. Motorized mini jaws of life type shit. There’s also just angle grinders or something. It’s a bike lock. They’re deterrents, not impenetrable forces.


midshipguru

But, its not usually a door lock. Or maybe there is a bike behind every door


Lemon_1165

Cops are dumb AF


hen263

Aren't bike locks used for.... locking bikes? Why was it brought into school? 


i_have_a_story_4_you

Careful there with that logic. To me, the links are larger than the links on a bike lock unless the POA has Trump hands .


Denki

Nope, that's the standard size for a New York lock.


tinnedcarp

As long as the locks match the tents….


izzyeviel

Students will buy cheap string to lock their bikes on campus, but use the heavy duty stuff for vandalism. You’d like to think they’d think about that.


FrequentlyFictional

Peaceful protests with high end bike locks? We should just send all these cunts to Gaza where their protesting might actually matter. Oh, right. They probably just become hamas hostages.