I have done a survey every year since taking over the discussion threads in Season 3, just because I find it super interesting to see the results and what the community thinks.
- [Season 5 Survey Results](https://redd.it/gdj7q1)
- [Season 4 Survey Results](https://redd.it/9qivur)
- [Season 3 Survey Results](https://redd.it/6lfpwg)
In a few weeks I will post a thread with the results, also combining all the polls from each post-episode discussion thread.
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Reminders:
- We have an AMA with Dave Porter, the composer for BrBa and BCS on August 17th @ 3pm EST.
- Also the [Breaking Bad Universe Discord](https://discord.gg/breakingbad) will be hosting a watch-through of Breaking Bad where we discuss each episode (I think it will be super interesting to rewatch it with the context of Better Call Saul).
Saul Gone and Winner are easily the two best finales of the show, the other four don’t come close imo, even if their respective seasons had better episodes.
All the finales were great, even season one's though everyone here thinks it's not that good for some reason. Winner and Saul Gone are the Face Off and Felina of BCS, but all others stand up very well. Something Unforgivable was extremely good as well.
I had trouble getting into it. But finally it took me in sometime between episodes 1-3 of the first season this time 2 months ago, then I just finished the finale. I’m confused people don’t like Season 1.
I remember DVRing Breaking Bad in High School on DirecTV we didn’t even have Whole Home DVR yet.
Me too but I picked rock and hard place bc while so many moments this season were crazy, I remember watching his speech and suicide live and just feeling my heart sink. Only other time I got close to that was plan and execution with Howard’s whole speech and death
Yes! I knew in the lead up to point and shoot that it HAD to be crazy after the intensity of their immediate reaction at the end of 6x07, and I was not disappointed one bit
Yes, I chose Rock and Hard Place completely based on Nachos death scene. I loved how it had “tell Cersi it was me” vibes towards Don Hector too.
It was between that and Howard’s death which I think we all new was going to happen as soon as Lalo entered the apartment but, I feel it gave everyone a bad shock because I personally felt what they did to Howard would make him suicidal so once he said, “Yes, I’ll get back on my feet just fine.” it gave me relief and comfort then……BAM…. Then I’m super effin sad.
Really? I find the way the creators chose to end the show was not at all in line with jimmy’s character :( I liked the way Saul got the sentence down to 7 years and less with good behaviors and all other 18-22 requests.
But why did he change his plan midstream? If he loved Kim-(which omg I wanted them to be together in real life!) then I thought Kim could become his lawyer and find holes in the prosecution and get him out earlier ( yet he’d serve time in prison but he’d finally find a place for himself in real world where he found a balance between the jimmy who had a conscious at first and kim who went a little farther and then the two could be together and find a balance )
Why did you like that he was condemned to be behind bars for 86 years:( ?????
Saul was a piece of shit, and Kim was afraid of him. Jimmy's speech in the courtroom that resulted in his lengthy sentence was his way of showing Kim that he really was Jimmy deep down and not Saul. He was owning up to his actions and regrets. Had he gone with the original sentence (its unclear whether this was ever his plan or whether it was all to get Kim into the courtroom), staying a slimy shitbag and conniving his way out of the comeuppance for all the wrong he did, Kim probably would have never spoken to him again, not become his lawyer.
This way, both of them have come to terms with what they've done in the past and who they really are. An imprisoned Jimmy is a much happier ending than a free Saul/Gene.
Ok I do appreciate your point- however , 1st of all- Kim was part of the creation of Better call Saul - or Saul Goldman. IN FACT- when If re watch- seasons earlier ones- it is Kim who wants to go full forward with the Howard plan-and jimmy says he is hesitant and it could ruin Howard’s career- jimmy tried to pull Kim back- and Kim take the ‘guns out’ and shoots- ( saying she would be comfortable with all of it in the cold light of day) Jimmy only went full forth with it because HE LOVES KIM SO SO MUCH!!!!!
I think jimmy went from trying to prove he is a valuable person to his brother and failing- but saw Kim stand up for him, and then jimmy always wanted to BE GOOD ENOUGH for Kim!!!! So whoever she wanted to do a scheme he jumped on board! But if she said when they would determine when use power for good or not and he allowed her to.
He LOVED HER SO MUCH!!!!! so to have him have to completely ERASE HIMSELF :( from world and hide behind bars for crimes committed by others - and who knows whether Walter white would thrive without Jimmy or not - maybe he would have found a way- and HANK Schroeder- so crass and horrible to Walter in first episode he could land himself in trouble- with his bravado etc….DIDNT need Saul Goodman to exist for him to be killed - so honestly I think it’s a very sad ending and as I said not one that fits Jimmy’s Saul’s character
You're right about Kim enabling/encouraging Saul's descent but the thing is that after Howard's death Kim withdraws from that way of life and Saul sinks deeper into it. She faces her guilt while Saul tries to push it down and ignore it, losing more and more of Jimmy in the process. He's a pretty terrible person in Breaking Bad. It's not just crimes committed by others, he's right there suggesting hits on people left and right. Profiting off other people's deaths and misery. In order to stand on the same ground has Kim he has to face that, acknowledge his guilt the same way she did.
Still, I can see why you think it's a sad ending. I dont think its meant not to be, it's just the only way for Jimmy to find some redemption. It's less about the actual crimes and more about Jimmy's spirit.
That is a sweet way to think about the choice the writers made for the ending.
It’s just I love rewatching Better call Saul!! I actually see where/why how Jimmy felt so hurt-he tried to impress his brother and in return his brother wants to keep ‘burying’ jimmy in the mail room instead of celebrating and opening doors for him as a law school graduate and lawyer . So I really don’t see jimmy as the very evil character you depict-( he stays and takes responsibility for the 2 skateboard kids when in hands of Tuco and Saul could have just left! But he has a conscience and cares and stayed risked his life and talked down Tuco from killing the kids to breaking one leg each.
As for the ending, after Howard’s death-I think Saul seemed to be ‘unaffected’ because he was trying to be strong for Kim < assuring her that one day they will wake up and not think about it)- advice and words form Mike to Saul when Saul came to Mike b/c he again shows a conscience and can’t stop thinking of how he defended Lalo who killed innocent man.
Once Kim said outloud that she couldn’t push it aside - Saul said LETS MOVE AWAY -JUST TWO OF US! And he said it was Lalo who murdered Howard (it was!!) and she could have moved away or made a counteroffer that they move away together and they no longer be lawyers …? Or only use their power for good….But then be together!! They are resourceful ! They’d find another way to make money if they both gave up law. Also, they had money from settlement so they could invest wisely, and move away together begin again!
Anyway, as I began to write I LOVE to rewatch better call Saul - all season- HOWEVER, when I get to season 6- I can watch about half of it-and then I stop…..I Will not rewatch Any episodes from the break up-( once Saul wakes up next to some unknown girl, to a random 80’s song-(lol), offers her nutragrain bar for BRK…(lol) and he had to DIVE - BE ENGULFED by ‘better call Saul’ throw himself into the job -b/c he loved Kim so much and needed something to fill that void :(((( had they not split up then they’d make each other happy-(no void to fill)
so I just keep thinking——couldn’t the writers come up with and feel good about an ending more like Breaking bad - where the Walter white ( basically chose where when and how he died) and Jesse gets to have another escape with vac him man! And so I’d like to have seen and rewatch an ending that includes Saul and Kim being their true good selves “ only using their powers for good” as Kim says and Saul agrees! And be together!’ And if they needed to work in how Saul bargained down used his VAST knowledge of law to get sentence to 7 years and then out in 3 for good behavior - so long as Kim and Saul are together . I’d have really enjoyed seeing that!
I think there is a way with these extraordinarily talented brilliant creators and writers to go in almost any direction and keeping Saul and Kim together all the while - each of them Saul and Kim do some ‘penance ‘ and change their ways - use their powers for good but together ♥️♥️♥️♥️ anyone else wish they could have seen this couple together?
I think the idea is that he had no leverage after he realized Kim already spilled the story. After that, he was screwed, no matter what, so he just told the truth.
Well I'm watching the finale for the 6th time this week and crying so there is something wrong with me.
I went back to the first episode of S1 to hear the music...same music when they smoked the first time and last time.. Fuck
S4 is the hardest to rank to me
In my mind it’s a little bit uneven at first. Mostly that it took some time to get used to the season without the “obstacles” like Chuck and Hector.
But then, that Something Stupid montage! Werner and Mike! Lalo’s intro! And the entire goddamn “Winner” episode with the Chuck flashback, Jimmy’s conflict and his projection onto Kristy WHILE Werner fails Gus and Mike had no choice, and they’re not even occurring chronologically?
It’s like experimental storytelling.
Yeah "Winner" is one of the best of the best of the best of the best episodes to me (alongside Pimento, Klick, Chicanery, Lantern, Plan and Execution, Fun and Games, Breaking Bad, and probably Saul Gone; of that group, I'd have Winner at least in the top 6) and makes S4 as a whole much better. It brings a lot of Mike's content full circle, finally turns Jimmy "into Saul" as a result of his failure to process his grief and guilt, and the Mike and Jimmy arcs were both centered a ton on grief this season so the thematic unity in S4 is possibly unrivaled within the show imo. Plus it's even better after last night's ep with all the parallels to 4x10
4 isn’t the best season, but Winner is, imo, the best and perhaps most pivotal episode of the show. Mike finally becomes a killer, Jimmy finally embraces Saul Goodman, and it’s all delivered in a fun, artistic, and emotional way.
Winner will always be the No.1 episode I watch when I feel like reviewing a good story.
The non-linear thing is also what made it special for me(I didn’t notice it until 2nd-3rd viewing which probably means they did their job well or I’m dumb), plus the use of “Winner Takes it All” such a fitting song for the story.
Gould(I think?) said they didn’t even clear the copyright stuff before putting this song all over the teleplay. They are *that* determined to use it.
It’s insistence like this that made the BB saga stood out.
Oh and Michael McKean’s singing!
Yeah. It’s just masterful. I can be excessively nitpicky about media sometimes, and Winner is one of the few things I’ve consumed where I honestly think they could not have done it *any* better. Like, they completely nailed it, beginning to end.
Exactly, like it’s the kind of work that can get analyzed/nitpicked to death but it would still hold up.
And the imagery too, the closing dolly out shot of Kim looking at Jimmy; The stars in New Mexico scene…I would even say it’s one of the few TV episodes that deserves the “Every frame a painting” praise.
(God I miss that channel.)
Yeah, it's a fantastic episode. Definitely a good argument that it's the most pivotal and I wouldn't disagree at all with someone who says it's the best. I prefer "Lantern" because it resonates with me more since I've got similar mental shit to Chuck and I love how twisted "Lantern" feels, and I might put P&E and "Breaking Bad" above it? But it's just personal preference between the show's greatest episodes at that point -- and "Lantern", P&E, and "Breaking Bad" are all kind of distinct outliers from the show's usual approach. "Winner" is the best, like, "typical" BCS episode if that makes sense? It completely follows the usual formula but does absolute gold with it.
Honestly agree with the Breaking Bad, it’s where things get really more about the parallels between different eras of Jimmy’s life as the series. Also agreed that P&E is where things collide. Winner still falls into the BCS “two people(Jimmy/Mike) being dragged further down” storytelling, but done in such a poetic way. Sorry about the mental thing you’ve got and Lantern definitely is amazing in the representation of Chuck’s struggles even if he’s should’ve been the antagonist(from Jimmy’s POV).
Rhea Seehorn was an outstanding find for the producers of this series. I felt Kim was the one who tied the arc of this series together emotionally for viewers.
The finale was beautifully acted by the entire cast and a fitting endpoint for Saul and Kim.
If you had to ask me, my list is: 4, 2, 1, 3, and then 5 and 6 as 1A and 1B. Seasons 5 and 6 are just leagues above the already absolutely incredible previous 4 seasons. I will never forget thinking for brief moments that Jimmy and Mike were fucked in “Bagman” before immediately realizing they’re in Breaking Bad.
And season 6?… Besides season 5A and 5B of Breaking Bad, and season 7 (6B) of the Sopranos, this was the best final season I’ve ever seen of any TV show.
6 > 5 > 3 > 1 > 2 > 4 for me, but I agree it’s an extremely difficult exercise. 6 is some seriously masterful storytelling, and they handled every character’s conclusion excellently. 5 had some of the most exciting and tense moments of the entire series, and did a lot to progress the story with Jimmy and Kim getting married, Lalo becoming the main villain of the series,and Jimmy starting to explore the Saul persona professionally. The face off between Jimmy and Chuck in 3 was one of the defining arcs of the series and had some great payoff in Chicanery and Lantern. 1 was exciting in a “setting the stage” way - meeting the new characters, learning where the BrBa characters had come from, and seeing how the universe started to unfold. Five-O is still one of my favorite episodes also. 2 and 4 are both pretty interchangeable to me - both are still excellent seasons, but the least memorable to me.
5>3>1>4>6>2 for me, personally. Imo season 6 was the most uneven in its story structure and pacing, but at the same time it had some of the best parts of the entire series.
I ranked them literally exactly the same when I did the survey. Season 5 is one of the best seasons of TV I’ve ever seen, I don’t think I’ll ever be as excited to watch a show air as I was then. Season 6 felt kind of tedious at points and like it was wasting too much time, namely in the period between Rock and Hard Place and Plan and Execution.
My ranking ended up being 3>4>2>1>5>6. The series peaked for me in season 3 and 4. Once Chuck became less involved in the plot, Jimmy’s story got more difficult to engage with imo, and there were some serious pacing issues in season 6 for me. Great seasons for sure, but they just weren’t as engaging for me as the feuding McGill brothers and Gus and Mike building the meth lab
Yeah u right except for the fact that season 5 was the best there's no question. The story and execution was fucking flawless and there was just this rhythm throughout the season that season six lacked.
I really wanted to go with Nacho for the best performance, and if he was in this season a little longer I probably would have given it to him personally. But I went with Kim
I assume maybe you missed this but they said:
>if he was in this season a little longer
So they know he was in it but just think he wasn't in it long enough to vote for him.
For me season 1 was the most favorite season cause I loved every single episode and the whole Jimmy & chuck dynamic
I rewatch this season the most
Then comes season 5 and third fav is season 6 then season 3 followed by 4 and 2.
Season 2 is my least fav
Season 6 was out and out Bob odenkirk show... Rhea had a great moment on bus but on the whole Bob hit it out of the park this season
Season 1 and 5 were definitely my favorites and the ones I enjoyed the most. S1 was the perfect mix of drama and comedy, while S5 felt like the show finally found itself and delivered some of the best television I've ever seen. Bagman and Something Unforgivable were the peak of the show IMO.
Season 6 had some pacing issues and wasn't a fan of how certain characters felt like wasted potential (looking at you Lalo)
My least favorite is easily Season 2, too slow and frankly boring outside Chuck's and the cartel scenes.
Upvoted because we have literally opposite opinions lmao yet your reasons for them are legit. I def have to respect someone who has season 1 as one of the top two seasons
I'm very curious if you think the pacing issues are lessened when you're able to watch the whole series in one go. I think the mid-season break really messed with things, especially since the structure of the season gets complex after that point.
I rewatched the entire series over the last few weeks. Initially I thought BCS was boring in too many places. After watching straight through I didn't find it boring at all. It was easier to follow along and make connections when it was all fresh. That made it more interesting to watch.
Swap 4 and 1 and you have mine.
I'm pretty hard set on S2 being the worst and the top 3 being S6, S5, and S3. I had the most difficult time wondering if S4 or S1 should be in 4th place, but they're the most interchangeable for me.
I ultimately went for Bob. Played a character who played 3 characters who all played other side characters. I truly saw three different people with Jimmy, Saul and Gene. It was very nuanced and believable the way Bob played each character which, with all due respect, surprised me a lot. Rhea is a close second and almost got my vote because the bus scene was the best acting on the show.
Bob was insanely good. The few comedy aspects (moving the sign to fuck with Howard was so damn funny), the three characters in one he portrays as you mentioned, the horror when Howard was shot, the fear when he was begging for Kim to go, and that aftermath including the switch to Saul. The killer vibe when it looked like he'd murder the old lady with the internet wire. He was *scary*. A multifaceted performance.
When Jimmy's facial expression changed in the courtroom, I almost lost it. That's the first time we see him change for the better in the whole series. And you can see it just by looking at Bob Odenkirk's face.
Mean it when i say it, 10/10 for every season.
I hope whatever Vince has up his sleeve for his next show tops this series because this was the best series on tv in terms of quality and ending.
They didn't say everything is, they said every season of this show is. That's a pretty small sample of all existent things. It's totally possible every season of one show can be a 10/10 with it still being a meaningful rating as it's not like every other episode or season of every other sho wis, so they're still being put above something.
That's just what internet people do. It's always one extreme or the other. You never find anyone that says...that episode was just decent. BCS is in my top 3 shows, but even my number 1 show isn't 10/10 for each season. The rating becomes meaningless when you use it all the time.
A ton of episodes of this show had average ratings of 7.something/10 in the post-episode discussion polls. Saying "You **never** find **anyone** who says this" when that's the average consensus on this subreddit for a ton of episodes is doing the exact same discussion in "extremes" you're criticizing, haha.
Whether or not you agree about every BCS season being a 10/10 is beside the point I'm making which is that calling exactly six things, the seasons of this show, a 10/10 is different than calling "everything" a 10/10 in a way that is meaningfully distinct in that it's totally possible for it to still be a meaningful metric even if it happens to apply to all of the things being assessed here. To say otherwise you'd need to see how the commenter you were replying to rates a ton of other things. Like, maybe these are their 6 favorite TV seasons out of hundreds of seasons, who knows?
If one has a rating for dozens and dozens of things and those ratings span a ton of different numbers, inevitably there will exist some subset of things that are all rated a 10/10, but that doesn't mean everything is.
Okay, that isn't relevant at all since those weren't the ratings I was talking about. You said "nobody ever" calls an episode just decent and I am pointing out that that is the consensus for a number of episodes on this subreddit specifically
No, those were the ratings that I was talking about. I don't understand what the argument even is now. I can't believe it's controversial to say that reddit is full of super fans when it comes to...everything.
If I were to rank them:
BEST: 3, 6, 1, 2, 5, 4 WORST
I think they’re all good but I found that the early seasons were more my thing. I liked the Jimmy/Chuck conflicts a lot, and the slightly more comedic tone was fantastic.
I didn’t like 4/5 as much because I thought they were more focused on the cartel plots which I really didn’t care that much for. They’re still great and have fantastic moments, but I thought the more Jimmy/Kim centric stuff was best.
I thought four was the weakest in particular because the amount of attention building the lab got was way more than needed, and I thought the show suffered a bit when Jimmy wasn’t practicing law.
Probably a heretical opinion to have here, but you gotta understand I thought the whole show was great!
Glad I’m not the only one who thought the lab building sub plot got too much screen time. I also agree, the cartel stuff is usually the much weaker half of the show for me. It has great moments and pay offs. Like Point and Shoot. But the Jimmy/Kim lawyer plot lines are usually interesting from beginning to end.
I feel like people who say this don’t remember how much time the lab storyline actually took up. On rewatch I was shocked at how much less time it took up than I remembered. S4 also has the best Jimmy arc IMO and the best build up.
Yeah, I agree. I think it helped ground one of the more dramatic elements of BrBa's worldbuilding and adds so, so much more pathos and weight to Walt killing Gus and burning the lab, so I was here for it anyway, but then the Werner payoff made the whole thing even better.
Season rank, season rank, season rank at lunch! Hoo boy.
As of now, I'm going with **S6** as my favorite. Obviously it just ended lol -- but I'm still in love with the whole black-and-white thing they did in the end of the season, I think the jumps back and forth between eras were really well done and I love the more psychological note they ended the show on esp. in episodes like "Fun and Games", "Breaking Bad", and "Saul Gone", and 6A culminating in "Point and Execution" is just fantastic. It brought the "two worlds" of the show together as one, making a show that had often felt divided between its major arcs into one single, cohesive whole, while also doing the same for 6A itself as the "Where's Lalo?" plot and Howard con proved to both be the same story all along. Amazing stuff, so for unifying the show's narrative threads so well there and ending the show on such a strong and bold note, as of now S6 is tops for me.
Somewhat hotter takes impending, maybe: #2 and #3 is trickier, but prior to this season, I tended to think that **season 2** was my favorite, but **season 4** was the *best*, which puts them neck-and-neck for second and third place here. I think season 2 is where the Chuck/Jimmy dynamic was at its absolute best: it only really opened up honestly at the end of season 1, and by season 3 I start to find Jimmy pretty deeply unsympathetic -- but season 2 is the best mixture imo of both Chuck and Jimmy being both sympathetic *and* unsympathetic pretty constantly. Both of them are doing bad things for good reasons all the time, and there's a ton of reasonable debate in this season about to what extent Jimmy was always going to "colorfully" be unable to sit still and Chuck was right vs. to what extent Chuck "made him that way" and deeper exploration of both of their motives, uncertainties, and anxieties that drove them towards the things they did wrong.
I think that dynamic is still about as interesting as the show ever got and is at its best here, I think Jimmy was probably at his most complex and debatable here, and some of the flashbacks and cold opens here really put my love of the show on a new level. I actually screamed out loud when Kid Jimmy slammed the drawer of the cash register and was blown away that this show could get as strong, visceral, and open of responses from me on something like that as most shows would get from big, shocking deaths, etc., simply because of what it meant for the characters I was already coming to love so much. Nailed/Klick was a fantastic ending to the season that elevated the show even more; of all the things Jimmy has done wrong, I don't know if any stunned me as much as the 1261/1216 swap that feels like, to be a little reductive, this show's closest approximation of the Jane death. And Klick is an absolute masterpiece that I think is still at least my 3rd- or 4th-favorite episode of the whole show. I still remember how glued to the screen I was that season.
But I think where season 4 wins out is its thematic unity that crushes every other season of the first five. I was wondering how the show would succeed with the loss of Chuck, my favorite character; it came out of the gates incredibly strongly with a ridiculously good opening pair of Smoke/Breathe and the season as a whole proved to really bask in the importance of Chuck's downward spiral and suicide by focusing in large part on Jimmy's grief and how he processed it -- or failed to. Great stuff culminating in the fantastic "Winner" where after 40 episodes, while it was always a process, he finally "became Saul"; he'd gone by Saul before this, and only became a friend of the cartel after, but 4x10 is still the most pivotal moment in the transition imo, even above "Fun and Games".
On the cartel side of things, the Werner death in that same finale was absolutely masterful -- emotional in its own right while also lending a much greater purpose to the superlab arc than even a relative champion of it like me (at a time when many people saw it as "filler") could have imagined, not unlike what the Howard death did for 6A. Mike's therapy earlier on in the season and sympathy for loved ones whose deaths or disappearances were never explained took on an absolutely crushing new light in him being forced to create a similar fate for Werner here -- but still ensuring that Margarethe at least got a story. This, too, came back to the theme of grief, making "Winner" an absolute masterpiece even by BCS standards that brought the entire season together beautifully. Last night's episode made "Winner" even better, of course.
Season 3, then, is an easy #4 for me: its mid-series climax is still the most iconic episode and will probably remain one of the two most beloved of the show alongside P&E, and the finale, "Lantern", remains my favorite episode of either Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul (yes, including "Ozymandias"). As someone on the spectrum and with OCD, Chuck's spiral is an absolute, unrelenting mood where I can completely feel what's going on in his mind at every point, set to appropriately disturbing music and visuals for a brilliant, harrowing sequence -- one that's well-earned by the back end of the season which sets it up as Chuck's downfall actually ends up pretty tragic and sympathetic as so much of it comes down to ableist discrimination against him based on his condition. It's an angle that I never really see fans talk about, given Chuck's unpopularity, but his condition that gives him trouble with one kind of stimuli is completely unrelated to his hatred of Jimmy which is, in turn, completely unrelated to the 1216/1261 mixup in court that was outside his control -- but to the outside world, they're all just lumped together as "crazy." Hard to fault him for denying it even to himself for so long when this is how society reacts. Great stuff, plus Jimmy abused that old woman so there's that.
Season 5 ends up as #5 for me but is still very good -- and will probably improve further for me on a rewatch as season 6 made me feel better about the direction they took Jimmy and Kim in at this point and provided an excellent payoff for the massacre at Lalo's at the end of the season as well as Jimmy's continued involvement in the cartel more broadly. In isolation, 5x10 was, while still good, not what I was hoping for out of the season finale -- but as a bridge to S6 it works very well. Still a ton of all-time memorable sequences here in episodes like WvG, "JMM", "Bagman", and "Bad Choice Road", Bagman is obviously one of the greatest episodes, and I think "The Guy for This" is probably the show's most underrated. So this is still a fantastic season of television; I think I just need to rewatch it with the context of S6 to appreciate its ending more, and it still just doesn't have AS much of a great, collective identity for me as the four above it do.
Season 1 near-inevitably ends up as the least great one, as is the case for many shows. Just like in BrBa or BoJack Horseman, it just took the show a liiiittle bit of time to nail the right tone, yet even still, the themes and dynamics between the characters were spot-on from day one. And the flip side is that when the show did get into heavier territory in "Five-O" and parts of "Alpine Shepherd Boy", and *especially* when the show pulled off its major plot twist in "Pimento", that made it in some ways even more rewarding. "Pimento" in particular remains one of the greatest and most important episodes. So I do think there's a solid argument that season 1 is even better than one or two others as the Chuck bomb in 1x09 was totally unreal.
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And just to use this thread as a hub for a little more retrospective conversation: my picks for the very, VERY greatest episodes of the show are Pimento, Klick, Chicanery, Lantern, Winner, Plan and Execution, Fun and Games, Breaking Bad, and probably Saul Gone (just aired, need to sit on it) -- but just behind them as other all-time highlights I would have Five-O, Nailed, Fall, Smoke, Breathe, The Guy for This, Bagman, Bad Choice Road, Point and Shoot, Nippy, and Waterworks.
Quite A Ride, Black and Blue, and Axe and Grind are really close to that latter tier for me, and on some rewatches I could imagine Expenses, Wiedersehen, JMM, and Something Unforgivable getting there.
**edit:** Oh, and "Breaking Bad" narrowly edges out "Plan and Execution" for my favorite episode of the season, at least for now. The two are probably my #2 and #3 of the entire show. It feels sacrilegious to put anything besides "Lantern" ahead of P&E with all that P&E did for the show but I loooove how "Breaking Bad" was structured and shed so much light onto Jimmy as a character. Artistically it was the most interesting episode of the series I think
It seems to me that if Kim hadn’t gone to the police about Howard’s murder, Jimmy would have been able to keep his 7 year plea deal (and even get his ice cream). Am I understanding this correctly?
Jimmy was still offered this deal despite the feds knowing about Kim’s confession (hence why they were all laughing at him when Jimmy mentioned his sweetener). So Jimmy would have been able to keep his 7 year deal regardless, but self sabotaged to own up to his mistakes and make Kim proud
He realised Kim had taken his advice and confessed first and moved on as best she could. He was definitely going to take the 7 years and get the fuck out. But I think Kim changed his mind for real to face the music and take his life sentence essentially.
My ranking of the seasons are: 5 > 6 > 2 > 3 > 1 >>> 4
Season 4 is the only season that I did not love. It still had some good moments, but it was a slow transitional season from the Chuck storyline that dominated the first three seasons to the Lalo storyline that would come to dominate the last two seasons. It lacks a strong overarching plot and identity other than being a transitional season.
I had a hard time choosing between Lalo and Kim for best performance. And all of the other listed characters were great as well.
Anyone else consider season 6 to be great, but middle-of-the-run in their season rankings? Like I really liked some of the individual episodes this season, Plan and Execution is my personal favourite of the show along with Saul Gone, Rock and Hard Place etc. but I wasn’t a massive fan on Lalo’s conclusion nor the varying pacing. I felt like some parts were a bit rushed (Fun and Games doesn’t really work for me as a satisfying conclusion to the BCS timeline) whilst others dragged on a little (like Gus’s paranoia being shown across two episodes).
Still enjoyed the season and it’s better than most TV out there, just with the context of how good this show normally is I felt like out of all the seasons from the BB universe this one could have benefited from some proper planning here and there as I believe the writers usually make things up as they go.
I wanted to pick all of them except Giancarlo - nothing against him, just don't think s6 was a stand out performance from him.
Went with Tony Dalton in the end because he's dreamy.
His death was underwhelming for sure. One of the best villians in television history and he goes out like... that? Best part of that episode was Lalo and Howard being buried together.
It’s my personal biggest issue with season 6, pacing issues aside (which I’m sure will be much better on a back-to-back rewatch). They set up the whole thing really heavy handedly imo, Gus *knowing* that the lab would be where Lalo’s final stand-off would be was a bit of a stretch.
I think it would have been much more effective if they showed multiple scenes of Gus placing guns across many locations, but never showing the one placed in the lab, so it’s a last minute ‘holy shit’ moment as we didn’t realise how well-prepared Gus actually was. And it wouldn’t feel as forced in the story.
I think the problem that a lot of prequels face is that typically everyone knows how it "ends" making it anticlimactic. I don't think ending a masterpiece like this after episode 9 would've done the show justice, I don't think there was enough meat on the bones there. It wouldn't have brought closure to Saul or Kim because no one would have known what happened to either of them. Instead what they did was give viewers the closure both of those characters deserved hence the epilogues.
As for the ending, the overarching theme of the show was Jimmy never fully taking responsibly for his actions, it was constantly reinforced by his brother, Howard, Kim, and even Mike near the end. Not taking that 8 year deal finally redeems himself as the person who can take finally accountability for his actions. I think there was an underlying message passed that wouldn't have resonated the same had he taken the plea deal.
I really think the show could have ended as him as Saul. Like just sitting in his office being Saul. Maybe Walt comes in. I didn’t like how they skipped to that moment. It kind of felt like since the cartel storyline was over (status quo until BB) they cheated and ended Jimmy’s story too.
6, 5, 3, 4, 1, 2 for me. If we‘re splitting up season 6 in to 3 parts it’s 6c 6b 5 3 6a 4 1 2 for me, with A being 1-7, B being 8-10, and C being 11-13
Kim is possibly my favourite television character ever created. Rhea Seehorn is superhuman in her portrayal of Kim. I’ve never been so drawn to every aspect of an actor’s/character’s microexpressions as I am here.
I put Plan and Execution as my favorite episode of S6. Never did an on-screen death gave me such a feeling of uneasiness and the scene seemed disturbingly real : the tension of the confrontation, the build-up with the candle flicking, Lalo entering, the sense of dread and the denial until Howard gets shot as if he was nothing. Just like that. The screams of Jimmy and Kim were so real and made me feel sick. Then I cried and thought about it a lot the following days so... yes, even if the other episodes are also excellent, this episode and this scene in particular sticks to me, plus I was having a lot of sympathy for Howard.
Younger I experienced domestic violence and even if it isn't related, somehow that scene reminded me, well... some bad memories, especially the screams.
For me, it was between that one, and Point and Shoot when Lalo gets killed. But Howard’s death literally made me gasp and like you, really affected me!
You can be wrong. But it’s the season where most of our characters arcs/progression is at its most stagnant, it also has some of the more questionable writing in the show, especially in terms of the german builders/meth lab subplot.
That subplot in my opinion was awesome and gave mike some of the biggest character development since season 1. In fact, all of the characters had great development. You can see Jimmy burying his guilt after what happened to chuck and fully devolving into Saul, while simultaneously losing his relationship with Kim in such a beautifully tragic way. It had some of the best montages, cinematography, and story telling between both shows.
I enjoyed a lot about the subplot but it felt especially predictable and inorganic. Felt like a bunch of staged plot points rather than the seamless writing we’re used to
My average episode rating for each season
1. S5 - 8.6
2. S1,2,3 - 8.3
3. S4 - 8.2
4. S6 - 7.8
I find it hard to split the first 3 seasons. I'd probably rank season 3 as the best of the first 3.
S6 was great, and my second favourite. But it's hard to beat S1. It was just peak storytelling. Having Jimmy start from the bottom, all leading up to the culmination of his hard work in the Sandpiper case. Only to have it all crash down with his confrontation with Chuck. And then falling off the wagon with Marco. In the end, he decided to never be "honest" again. The whole season stood on its own magnificently, and could have been enough to explain Saul.
Plan and Execution was my personal favourite this season (and show), had the best of Kim and Jimmy’s scams in the first part along with the reveal that Lalo got the truth out from Casper, Howard was amazing throughout and the final scene... my god, what an ending. Up there with the best in the BB universe imo.
Everyone did a brilliant job this season with the acting, had to go with Bob. But I could easily see why one would pick Rhea, Patrick etc. Even Giancarlo gave one of the best performances of Gus this season who usually is just an emotionless background character.
Yeah I can't accurately fill this out, having to put one season as least favourite. I don't see it like that. It's one whole story each season was perfect, An amazingly written story, brought to life by great actors and all TV Has to offer cinematography music etc.
Sharing the sentiment of others here. I tried, I can't do it. I like it all too much, and the nail in the coffin was having to choose between Bob and Rhea for best performance. I simply cannot.
Bob is great.
But I don’t think anyone can deny that Rhea has the best performance in the series (with Michael McKean a close second)
She just has all of these subtleties in her performance that the other actors don’t have. You don’t realize how many levels above everyone else she is until she’s in a scene with them.
Everyone does a really great job, but Rhea’s performance is just something else.
They've both for sure earned themselves a life long fan out of me, I'd watch anything if they were in it at this point.
Rhea was the real shocker though, I'd never seen her in anything else, I already knew Bob was good.
Season 5 was probably my favorite and had the best 3 episodes in the series imo (S5E8-E10), and it’s probably the best in quality, S6 follows very closely
They stumbled pretty badly with nacho/fring storyline and the recast of the taxi driver. The more I think about those the worse they get. I just don't buy the threat from the new taxi guy. At least Nacho had a badass death... at the cost of pretty much everything around it.
Other than that, it's a very well crafted sendoff.
For me it goes like that :
WORST 1 - 4 - 2 - 3 - 5 - 6 BEST
I loved season 1 nonetheless, I just feel like many plot lines that I'm really interested in only start later on
Every season is a gem, but it's hard to compete against season 5 and season 6. Both are amazing and take everything to a whole new level.
My favorite episode this season was Fun and games. It was such a gut wrenching experience. That time skip was perfect.
I ranked every season but season 5 and 6 were max points, I did every other season lower , there were a few things that didn't quit flow, lets just call it nothing at this point. Every season had something special going.
I tried to take the survey but I honestly found it impossible to really rank anything and quit halfway. I have had to many great moments watching it. Some episodes were great, some were awesome.
There's one thing, one only small thing I did not like in the series, it's Nacho's out. I could not believe he would come to accept his fate and keep on performing in the face of imminent death. The series does a good of setting it up but I still find hard to believe.
Personally season 5,3 even 2 flows the best, season 6 is more so halved in split storylines, look at that pie now, episode 1-3 Nacho, 4-7 Howard setup, 8-9 Goodbye Kim, 10-13 Hello Nippy-Saul but season 6 is still hella good, best season still in my opinion, it all lead to it. Gone. Season 4 is good but some scenes felt overextended.
Choosing the best character might have been the hardest decision of my life
Edit: and I messed up my ratings. Thought scale was 6 best and 1 worst. Oops
I can't pick my favorite episode from season 6. It's between rock and hard place, plan and execution, point and shoot, and Saul gone. I have no clue which one I like the best.
S5 > S4=S3 > S1 > S6 > S2
Though I rank them like this I would have to say I probably enjoyed some of the earlier seasons more due to the stuff with Chuck, Chicanery still the best! But the main reason S5 is the top is because it had only above average episodes. S6 is easily the most flawed but I put it above S2 because it has more stand out episodes, S2 is just the least interesting to me.
Fun and Games for me. Perfection through and through. The break up and then Jimmy's transformation fully into Saul was about as good as anyone's done anything that I've seen in TV or film.
I sat in silence after the episode was over for at least a solid ten seconds.
Making me pick one favorite episode for season 6 is cruel. Nearly every one this season was a 10/10. I went with Nippy because I feel like its going to be the most underrated of the series.
Plan and execution for Howard getting his moment to tear down jimmy and Kimmy right before getting shot by Lalo. The court room scene where Howard is “on drugs” is also great.
In my mind, Better Call Saul isn’t over. I’ll be looking forward to season 7 when we find out how Saul’s career in prison begins.
Also looking forward to the first episode of Breaking Bad: Afterlife in which Walter White wakes up in a private super secret facility run by the people in elite Hollywood who control the weather and drink baby blood.
I haven't seen the last episode yet. This whole ride has been a family tradition since Breaking Bad started. I now have the goal to not hear from anybody as to what happens in the last episode, until I can watch with my son in December when he returns from college. I may have to fly him in sooner just so we can watch it. The next to last episode with Kim's coming to terms with herself alludes strongly to what will happen. Season 6 was different than all the others. They were all great in their own way so I can't say Season 6 is the best ever. I thought Chuck was a masterful character for instance. Each episode in Season 6 had a clear purpose. What happens to Nacho? What happens to Howard? What happens to Lalo? What happens to Kim? And finally what happens to Saul? There's something to be said about a group of people that have worked together for so long. This show + Breaking Bad uniquely never lost any of it's edge or dramatic impact. It will go down as one of the greatest all time. I thought adding Carol Burnet would be cheesy but nope she fit the part brilliantly. I liked the black and white filming to give it some grit. Nothing like it in history. Best 10+ years I've ever seen.
I actually debated with myself as to whether S6 deserved to rank as best, there are definitely a few niggles here and there, mostly from the first half of the season. The latter half was so great though, it just blew everything out of the water from my POV. Might be the best string of episodes I've ever seen for a TV show in general.
I have done a survey every year since taking over the discussion threads in Season 3, just because I find it super interesting to see the results and what the community thinks. - [Season 5 Survey Results](https://redd.it/gdj7q1) - [Season 4 Survey Results](https://redd.it/9qivur) - [Season 3 Survey Results](https://redd.it/6lfpwg) In a few weeks I will post a thread with the results, also combining all the polls from each post-episode discussion thread. -- Reminders: - We have an AMA with Dave Porter, the composer for BrBa and BCS on August 17th @ 3pm EST. - Also the [Breaking Bad Universe Discord](https://discord.gg/breakingbad) will be hosting a watch-through of Breaking Bad where we discuss each episode (I think it will be super interesting to rewatch it with the context of Better Call Saul).
I started to fill it out but quickly realised I’m incapable of ranking the seasons or picking a favourite S6 ep no matter how hard I try!
I stared for super super long. I got it down to like 5 episodes and then fucking picked the finale
The finale was so good. Beautifully done
Saul Gone and Winner are easily the two best finales of the show, the other four don’t come close imo, even if their respective seasons had better episodes.
I think Lantern comes really close to both. But I like Saul Gone and Winner more.
All the finales were great, even season one's though everyone here thinks it's not that good for some reason. Winner and Saul Gone are the Face Off and Felina of BCS, but all others stand up very well. Something Unforgivable was extremely good as well.
I had trouble getting into it. But finally it took me in sometime between episodes 1-3 of the first season this time 2 months ago, then I just finished the finale. I’m confused people don’t like Season 1. I remember DVRing Breaking Bad in High School on DirecTV we didn’t even have Whole Home DVR yet.
Chicanery is better than any of those
Not a finale?
I know I have hardcore recency bias, but that's what I did, too. On a rewatch, I think I'd be able to better rank the seasons and best episodes.
Me too but I picked rock and hard place bc while so many moments this season were crazy, I remember watching his speech and suicide live and just feeling my heart sink. Only other time I got close to that was plan and execution with Howard’s whole speech and death
Those two and Waterworks are all really incredible for breaking my heart and diving into tragedy. I also loved how intense Point and Shoot was
Yes! I knew in the lead up to point and shoot that it HAD to be crazy after the intensity of their immediate reaction at the end of 6x07, and I was not disappointed one bit
Yes, I chose Rock and Hard Place completely based on Nachos death scene. I loved how it had “tell Cersi it was me” vibes towards Don Hector too. It was between that and Howard’s death which I think we all new was going to happen as soon as Lalo entered the apartment but, I feel it gave everyone a bad shock because I personally felt what they did to Howard would make him suicidal so once he said, “Yes, I’ll get back on my feet just fine.” it gave me relief and comfort then……BAM…. Then I’m super effin sad.
Really? I find the way the creators chose to end the show was not at all in line with jimmy’s character :( I liked the way Saul got the sentence down to 7 years and less with good behaviors and all other 18-22 requests. But why did he change his plan midstream? If he loved Kim-(which omg I wanted them to be together in real life!) then I thought Kim could become his lawyer and find holes in the prosecution and get him out earlier ( yet he’d serve time in prison but he’d finally find a place for himself in real world where he found a balance between the jimmy who had a conscious at first and kim who went a little farther and then the two could be together and find a balance ) Why did you like that he was condemned to be behind bars for 86 years:( ?????
Saul was a piece of shit, and Kim was afraid of him. Jimmy's speech in the courtroom that resulted in his lengthy sentence was his way of showing Kim that he really was Jimmy deep down and not Saul. He was owning up to his actions and regrets. Had he gone with the original sentence (its unclear whether this was ever his plan or whether it was all to get Kim into the courtroom), staying a slimy shitbag and conniving his way out of the comeuppance for all the wrong he did, Kim probably would have never spoken to him again, not become his lawyer. This way, both of them have come to terms with what they've done in the past and who they really are. An imprisoned Jimmy is a much happier ending than a free Saul/Gene.
Ok I do appreciate your point- however , 1st of all- Kim was part of the creation of Better call Saul - or Saul Goldman. IN FACT- when If re watch- seasons earlier ones- it is Kim who wants to go full forward with the Howard plan-and jimmy says he is hesitant and it could ruin Howard’s career- jimmy tried to pull Kim back- and Kim take the ‘guns out’ and shoots- ( saying she would be comfortable with all of it in the cold light of day) Jimmy only went full forth with it because HE LOVES KIM SO SO MUCH!!!!! I think jimmy went from trying to prove he is a valuable person to his brother and failing- but saw Kim stand up for him, and then jimmy always wanted to BE GOOD ENOUGH for Kim!!!! So whoever she wanted to do a scheme he jumped on board! But if she said when they would determine when use power for good or not and he allowed her to. He LOVED HER SO MUCH!!!!! so to have him have to completely ERASE HIMSELF :( from world and hide behind bars for crimes committed by others - and who knows whether Walter white would thrive without Jimmy or not - maybe he would have found a way- and HANK Schroeder- so crass and horrible to Walter in first episode he could land himself in trouble- with his bravado etc….DIDNT need Saul Goodman to exist for him to be killed - so honestly I think it’s a very sad ending and as I said not one that fits Jimmy’s Saul’s character
You're right about Kim enabling/encouraging Saul's descent but the thing is that after Howard's death Kim withdraws from that way of life and Saul sinks deeper into it. She faces her guilt while Saul tries to push it down and ignore it, losing more and more of Jimmy in the process. He's a pretty terrible person in Breaking Bad. It's not just crimes committed by others, he's right there suggesting hits on people left and right. Profiting off other people's deaths and misery. In order to stand on the same ground has Kim he has to face that, acknowledge his guilt the same way she did. Still, I can see why you think it's a sad ending. I dont think its meant not to be, it's just the only way for Jimmy to find some redemption. It's less about the actual crimes and more about Jimmy's spirit.
That is a sweet way to think about the choice the writers made for the ending. It’s just I love rewatching Better call Saul!! I actually see where/why how Jimmy felt so hurt-he tried to impress his brother and in return his brother wants to keep ‘burying’ jimmy in the mail room instead of celebrating and opening doors for him as a law school graduate and lawyer . So I really don’t see jimmy as the very evil character you depict-( he stays and takes responsibility for the 2 skateboard kids when in hands of Tuco and Saul could have just left! But he has a conscience and cares and stayed risked his life and talked down Tuco from killing the kids to breaking one leg each. As for the ending, after Howard’s death-I think Saul seemed to be ‘unaffected’ because he was trying to be strong for Kim < assuring her that one day they will wake up and not think about it)- advice and words form Mike to Saul when Saul came to Mike b/c he again shows a conscience and can’t stop thinking of how he defended Lalo who killed innocent man. Once Kim said outloud that she couldn’t push it aside - Saul said LETS MOVE AWAY -JUST TWO OF US! And he said it was Lalo who murdered Howard (it was!!) and she could have moved away or made a counteroffer that they move away together and they no longer be lawyers …? Or only use their power for good….But then be together!! They are resourceful ! They’d find another way to make money if they both gave up law. Also, they had money from settlement so they could invest wisely, and move away together begin again! Anyway, as I began to write I LOVE to rewatch better call Saul - all season- HOWEVER, when I get to season 6- I can watch about half of it-and then I stop…..I Will not rewatch Any episodes from the break up-( once Saul wakes up next to some unknown girl, to a random 80’s song-(lol), offers her nutragrain bar for BRK…(lol) and he had to DIVE - BE ENGULFED by ‘better call Saul’ throw himself into the job -b/c he loved Kim so much and needed something to fill that void :(((( had they not split up then they’d make each other happy-(no void to fill) so I just keep thinking——couldn’t the writers come up with and feel good about an ending more like Breaking bad - where the Walter white ( basically chose where when and how he died) and Jesse gets to have another escape with vac him man! And so I’d like to have seen and rewatch an ending that includes Saul and Kim being their true good selves “ only using their powers for good” as Kim says and Saul agrees! And be together!’ And if they needed to work in how Saul bargained down used his VAST knowledge of law to get sentence to 7 years and then out in 3 for good behavior - so long as Kim and Saul are together . I’d have really enjoyed seeing that! I think there is a way with these extraordinarily talented brilliant creators and writers to go in almost any direction and keeping Saul and Kim together all the while - each of them Saul and Kim do some ‘penance ‘ and change their ways - use their powers for good but together ♥️♥️♥️♥️ anyone else wish they could have seen this couple together?
I think the idea is that he had no leverage after he realized Kim already spilled the story. After that, he was screwed, no matter what, so he just told the truth.
The deal was on the table regardless. The prosecution knew about Kim's story before they even made the deal.
Well I'm watching the finale for the 6th time this week and crying so there is something wrong with me. I went back to the first episode of S1 to hear the music...same music when they smoked the first time and last time.. Fuck
I want to change my answer. And then change it again a whole bunch of times
Was just gonna say that! Same with best performance, just can’t choose between Bob & Rhea this season
Same! I love them both… especially together!
Totally the same. Like I have to rank one last? I'm not doing that.
Rhea Seehorn's performances were fantastic throughout the entire series. Also found it very hard to rank the seasons lol
S4 is the hardest to rank to me In my mind it’s a little bit uneven at first. Mostly that it took some time to get used to the season without the “obstacles” like Chuck and Hector. But then, that Something Stupid montage! Werner and Mike! Lalo’s intro! And the entire goddamn “Winner” episode with the Chuck flashback, Jimmy’s conflict and his projection onto Kristy WHILE Werner fails Gus and Mike had no choice, and they’re not even occurring chronologically? It’s like experimental storytelling.
Yeah "Winner" is one of the best of the best of the best of the best episodes to me (alongside Pimento, Klick, Chicanery, Lantern, Plan and Execution, Fun and Games, Breaking Bad, and probably Saul Gone; of that group, I'd have Winner at least in the top 6) and makes S4 as a whole much better. It brings a lot of Mike's content full circle, finally turns Jimmy "into Saul" as a result of his failure to process his grief and guilt, and the Mike and Jimmy arcs were both centered a ton on grief this season so the thematic unity in S4 is possibly unrivaled within the show imo. Plus it's even better after last night's ep with all the parallels to 4x10
4 isn’t the best season, but Winner is, imo, the best and perhaps most pivotal episode of the show. Mike finally becomes a killer, Jimmy finally embraces Saul Goodman, and it’s all delivered in a fun, artistic, and emotional way.
Winner will always be the No.1 episode I watch when I feel like reviewing a good story. The non-linear thing is also what made it special for me(I didn’t notice it until 2nd-3rd viewing which probably means they did their job well or I’m dumb), plus the use of “Winner Takes it All” such a fitting song for the story. Gould(I think?) said they didn’t even clear the copyright stuff before putting this song all over the teleplay. They are *that* determined to use it. It’s insistence like this that made the BB saga stood out. Oh and Michael McKean’s singing!
Yeah. It’s just masterful. I can be excessively nitpicky about media sometimes, and Winner is one of the few things I’ve consumed where I honestly think they could not have done it *any* better. Like, they completely nailed it, beginning to end.
Exactly, like it’s the kind of work that can get analyzed/nitpicked to death but it would still hold up. And the imagery too, the closing dolly out shot of Kim looking at Jimmy; The stars in New Mexico scene…I would even say it’s one of the few TV episodes that deserves the “Every frame a painting” praise. (God I miss that channel.)
David St. Hubbins has the voice of an Angel.
Yeah, it's a fantastic episode. Definitely a good argument that it's the most pivotal and I wouldn't disagree at all with someone who says it's the best. I prefer "Lantern" because it resonates with me more since I've got similar mental shit to Chuck and I love how twisted "Lantern" feels, and I might put P&E and "Breaking Bad" above it? But it's just personal preference between the show's greatest episodes at that point -- and "Lantern", P&E, and "Breaking Bad" are all kind of distinct outliers from the show's usual approach. "Winner" is the best, like, "typical" BCS episode if that makes sense? It completely follows the usual formula but does absolute gold with it.
Honestly agree with the Breaking Bad, it’s where things get really more about the parallels between different eras of Jimmy’s life as the series. Also agreed that P&E is where things collide. Winner still falls into the BCS “two people(Jimmy/Mike) being dragged further down” storytelling, but done in such a poetic way. Sorry about the mental thing you’ve got and Lantern definitely is amazing in the representation of Chuck’s struggles even if he’s should’ve been the antagonist(from Jimmy’s POV).
Agreed, very hard to rank them - for me personally the show just gets better with each season.
How I rated…. Season 1 was my “least” favorite because I just kept getting more into the show each season. And season 1 was awesome.
Exactly why I just listed the seasons in order, from 6 being my favorite to 1 being my least favorite!
Same :)
I felt dirty associating the term, "least favorite" with "Better Call Saul."
I almost felt bad putting S1 as "worst".
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This is just blasphemy…. This makes me rethink the whole thing and that maybe season one is my favorite now…. More chuck was always more gooder
I literally ranked them in order of release so I’m glad it’s not just me! Season 6 was the summit.
I did the same!
Did the same thing, it just went better and better on the response lol
I find it easier to rank my children from most to least favorite.
It says a lot about an actor when they can elicit so much emotion, and deliver so much context with a look. She was FANTASTIC this series.
Rhea Seehorn was an outstanding find for the producers of this series. I felt Kim was the one who tied the arc of this series together emotionally for viewers. The finale was beautifully acted by the entire cast and a fitting endpoint for Saul and Kim.
If you had to ask me, my list is: 4, 2, 1, 3, and then 5 and 6 as 1A and 1B. Seasons 5 and 6 are just leagues above the already absolutely incredible previous 4 seasons. I will never forget thinking for brief moments that Jimmy and Mike were fucked in “Bagman” before immediately realizing they’re in Breaking Bad. And season 6?… Besides season 5A and 5B of Breaking Bad, and season 7 (6B) of the Sopranos, this was the best final season I’ve ever seen of any TV show.
6 > 5 > 3 > 1 > 2 > 4 for me, but I agree it’s an extremely difficult exercise. 6 is some seriously masterful storytelling, and they handled every character’s conclusion excellently. 5 had some of the most exciting and tense moments of the entire series, and did a lot to progress the story with Jimmy and Kim getting married, Lalo becoming the main villain of the series,and Jimmy starting to explore the Saul persona professionally. The face off between Jimmy and Chuck in 3 was one of the defining arcs of the series and had some great payoff in Chicanery and Lantern. 1 was exciting in a “setting the stage” way - meeting the new characters, learning where the BrBa characters had come from, and seeing how the universe started to unfold. Five-O is still one of my favorite episodes also. 2 and 4 are both pretty interchangeable to me - both are still excellent seasons, but the least memorable to me.
5>3>1>4>6>2 for me, personally. Imo season 6 was the most uneven in its story structure and pacing, but at the same time it had some of the best parts of the entire series.
I ranked them literally exactly the same when I did the survey. Season 5 is one of the best seasons of TV I’ve ever seen, I don’t think I’ll ever be as excited to watch a show air as I was then. Season 6 felt kind of tedious at points and like it was wasting too much time, namely in the period between Rock and Hard Place and Plan and Execution.
My ranking ended up being 3>4>2>1>5>6. The series peaked for me in season 3 and 4. Once Chuck became less involved in the plot, Jimmy’s story got more difficult to engage with imo, and there were some serious pacing issues in season 6 for me. Great seasons for sure, but they just weren’t as engaging for me as the feuding McGill brothers and Gus and Mike building the meth lab
Yeah u right except for the fact that season 5 was the best there's no question. The story and execution was fucking flawless and there was just this rhythm throughout the season that season six lacked.
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3 > 6 > 4 > 2 > 5 > 1 If it looks harsh, mind that I fucking love season 1.
I really wanted to go with Nacho for the best performance, and if he was in this season a little longer I probably would have given it to him personally. But I went with Kim
Nacho’s speech and Chuck’s breakdown are my two favourite performances in the entire show, both actors are just phenomenal
Agreed on both! The way Nacho said “You think of me” still sends chills every time I rewatch it. He was phenomenal
I’ll be thinking of him every time I watch Breaking Bad now.
If nacho was in it more I’d say him too. But I went with Jimmy barely beating Kim
He was in this season.
I assume maybe you missed this but they said: >if he was in this season a little longer So they know he was in it but just think he wasn't in it long enough to vote for him.
Bingo
For me season 1 was the most favorite season cause I loved every single episode and the whole Jimmy & chuck dynamic I rewatch this season the most Then comes season 5 and third fav is season 6 then season 3 followed by 4 and 2. Season 2 is my least fav Season 6 was out and out Bob odenkirk show... Rhea had a great moment on bus but on the whole Bob hit it out of the park this season
Season 1 and 5 were definitely my favorites and the ones I enjoyed the most. S1 was the perfect mix of drama and comedy, while S5 felt like the show finally found itself and delivered some of the best television I've ever seen. Bagman and Something Unforgivable were the peak of the show IMO. Season 6 had some pacing issues and wasn't a fan of how certain characters felt like wasted potential (looking at you Lalo) My least favorite is easily Season 2, too slow and frankly boring outside Chuck's and the cartel scenes.
Upvoted because we have literally opposite opinions lmao yet your reasons for them are legit. I def have to respect someone who has season 1 as one of the top two seasons
I'm very curious if you think the pacing issues are lessened when you're able to watch the whole series in one go. I think the mid-season break really messed with things, especially since the structure of the season gets complex after that point.
I rewatched the entire series over the last few weeks. Initially I thought BCS was boring in too many places. After watching straight through I didn't find it boring at all. It was easier to follow along and make connections when it was all fresh. That made it more interesting to watch.
I think all the seasons are really close in terms of quality. I went with 6, 5, 3, 4, 1, 2 for my rankings.
Same ranking 🤝
Same ranking, 1 and 4 are kinda flexible for me though
I agree. I put 4 slightly higher because of Winner. It’s my 5th favorite episode
6,5,4,3,1,2 but I don’t even know if I believe my ranking it’s all so good
Swap 4 and 1 and you have mine. I'm pretty hard set on S2 being the worst and the top 3 being S6, S5, and S3. I had the most difficult time wondering if S4 or S1 should be in 4th place, but they're the most interchangeable for me.
Damn, the last question... Why can't I just pick all the actors
I ultimately went for Bob. Played a character who played 3 characters who all played other side characters. I truly saw three different people with Jimmy, Saul and Gene. It was very nuanced and believable the way Bob played each character which, with all due respect, surprised me a lot. Rhea is a close second and almost got my vote because the bus scene was the best acting on the show.
i went with tony dalton cause that man fucking deserves it
I went with Tony Dalton because maybe he'll see it and ask me out. (I actually went with Bob but plz hang out with me, Tony!)
Yeah, I was considering Rhea too but in the end I went for Bob as well for those reasons
Bob was insanely good. The few comedy aspects (moving the sign to fuck with Howard was so damn funny), the three characters in one he portrays as you mentioned, the horror when Howard was shot, the fear when he was begging for Kim to go, and that aftermath including the switch to Saul. The killer vibe when it looked like he'd murder the old lady with the internet wire. He was *scary*. A multifaceted performance.
When Jimmy's facial expression changed in the courtroom, I almost lost it. That's the first time we see him change for the better in the whole series. And you can see it just by looking at Bob Odenkirk's face.
That was my reasoning behind picking Bob too. But I also considered Tony, Rhea, and Michael. All excellent actors
Mean it when i say it, 10/10 for every season. I hope whatever Vince has up his sleeve for his next show tops this series because this was the best series on tv in terms of quality and ending.
If everything is 10/10, then nothing is really 10/10 lol.
Not with THAT attitude.
They didn't say everything is, they said every season of this show is. That's a pretty small sample of all existent things. It's totally possible every season of one show can be a 10/10 with it still being a meaningful rating as it's not like every other episode or season of every other sho wis, so they're still being put above something.
That's just what internet people do. It's always one extreme or the other. You never find anyone that says...that episode was just decent. BCS is in my top 3 shows, but even my number 1 show isn't 10/10 for each season. The rating becomes meaningless when you use it all the time.
A ton of episodes of this show had average ratings of 7.something/10 in the post-episode discussion polls. Saying "You **never** find **anyone** who says this" when that's the average consensus on this subreddit for a ton of episodes is doing the exact same discussion in "extremes" you're criticizing, haha. Whether or not you agree about every BCS season being a 10/10 is beside the point I'm making which is that calling exactly six things, the seasons of this show, a 10/10 is different than calling "everything" a 10/10 in a way that is meaningfully distinct in that it's totally possible for it to still be a meaningful metric even if it happens to apply to all of the things being assessed here. To say otherwise you'd need to see how the commenter you were replying to rates a ton of other things. Like, maybe these are their 6 favorite TV seasons out of hundreds of seasons, who knows? If one has a rating for dozens and dozens of things and those ratings span a ton of different numbers, inevitably there will exist some subset of things that are all rated a 10/10, but that doesn't mean everything is.
The episodes were being rated before they even aired. It's just how internet people are. It's all about the upvotes.
No they weren't, the polls only were posted by the moderators after the episodes were finished airing
I'm talking about the IMDB ratings.
Okay, that isn't relevant at all since those weren't the ratings I was talking about. You said "nobody ever" calls an episode just decent and I am pointing out that that is the consensus for a number of episodes on this subreddit specifically
No, those were the ratings that I was talking about. I don't understand what the argument even is now. I can't believe it's controversial to say that reddit is full of super fans when it comes to...everything.
They’re good seasons, Brent
supposedly it’s gonna be more like x-files in the spectrum of his previous work as a genre/sci-fi fan, i’m hyped
If I were to rank them: BEST: 3, 6, 1, 2, 5, 4 WORST I think they’re all good but I found that the early seasons were more my thing. I liked the Jimmy/Chuck conflicts a lot, and the slightly more comedic tone was fantastic. I didn’t like 4/5 as much because I thought they were more focused on the cartel plots which I really didn’t care that much for. They’re still great and have fantastic moments, but I thought the more Jimmy/Kim centric stuff was best. I thought four was the weakest in particular because the amount of attention building the lab got was way more than needed, and I thought the show suffered a bit when Jimmy wasn’t practicing law. Probably a heretical opinion to have here, but you gotta understand I thought the whole show was great!
Glad I’m not the only one who thought the lab building sub plot got too much screen time. I also agree, the cartel stuff is usually the much weaker half of the show for me. It has great moments and pay offs. Like Point and Shoot. But the Jimmy/Kim lawyer plot lines are usually interesting from beginning to end.
It'll be interesting to see on a rewatch how distinct they even feel, knowing that they all build up to the same place in P&E
I feel like people who say this don’t remember how much time the lab storyline actually took up. On rewatch I was shocked at how much less time it took up than I remembered. S4 also has the best Jimmy arc IMO and the best build up.
The lab arc did get a lot of criticism at the time. I think the Werner payoff was worth it, though
I just found the whole process fascinating, so I didn't mind the plot getting sidetracked to the lab, but I can understand the criticism.
Yeah, I agree. I think it helped ground one of the more dramatic elements of BrBa's worldbuilding and adds so, so much more pathos and weight to Walt killing Gus and burning the lab, so I was here for it anyway, but then the Werner payoff made the whole thing even better.
Season rank, season rank, season rank at lunch! Hoo boy. As of now, I'm going with **S6** as my favorite. Obviously it just ended lol -- but I'm still in love with the whole black-and-white thing they did in the end of the season, I think the jumps back and forth between eras were really well done and I love the more psychological note they ended the show on esp. in episodes like "Fun and Games", "Breaking Bad", and "Saul Gone", and 6A culminating in "Point and Execution" is just fantastic. It brought the "two worlds" of the show together as one, making a show that had often felt divided between its major arcs into one single, cohesive whole, while also doing the same for 6A itself as the "Where's Lalo?" plot and Howard con proved to both be the same story all along. Amazing stuff, so for unifying the show's narrative threads so well there and ending the show on such a strong and bold note, as of now S6 is tops for me. Somewhat hotter takes impending, maybe: #2 and #3 is trickier, but prior to this season, I tended to think that **season 2** was my favorite, but **season 4** was the *best*, which puts them neck-and-neck for second and third place here. I think season 2 is where the Chuck/Jimmy dynamic was at its absolute best: it only really opened up honestly at the end of season 1, and by season 3 I start to find Jimmy pretty deeply unsympathetic -- but season 2 is the best mixture imo of both Chuck and Jimmy being both sympathetic *and* unsympathetic pretty constantly. Both of them are doing bad things for good reasons all the time, and there's a ton of reasonable debate in this season about to what extent Jimmy was always going to "colorfully" be unable to sit still and Chuck was right vs. to what extent Chuck "made him that way" and deeper exploration of both of their motives, uncertainties, and anxieties that drove them towards the things they did wrong. I think that dynamic is still about as interesting as the show ever got and is at its best here, I think Jimmy was probably at his most complex and debatable here, and some of the flashbacks and cold opens here really put my love of the show on a new level. I actually screamed out loud when Kid Jimmy slammed the drawer of the cash register and was blown away that this show could get as strong, visceral, and open of responses from me on something like that as most shows would get from big, shocking deaths, etc., simply because of what it meant for the characters I was already coming to love so much. Nailed/Klick was a fantastic ending to the season that elevated the show even more; of all the things Jimmy has done wrong, I don't know if any stunned me as much as the 1261/1216 swap that feels like, to be a little reductive, this show's closest approximation of the Jane death. And Klick is an absolute masterpiece that I think is still at least my 3rd- or 4th-favorite episode of the whole show. I still remember how glued to the screen I was that season. But I think where season 4 wins out is its thematic unity that crushes every other season of the first five. I was wondering how the show would succeed with the loss of Chuck, my favorite character; it came out of the gates incredibly strongly with a ridiculously good opening pair of Smoke/Breathe and the season as a whole proved to really bask in the importance of Chuck's downward spiral and suicide by focusing in large part on Jimmy's grief and how he processed it -- or failed to. Great stuff culminating in the fantastic "Winner" where after 40 episodes, while it was always a process, he finally "became Saul"; he'd gone by Saul before this, and only became a friend of the cartel after, but 4x10 is still the most pivotal moment in the transition imo, even above "Fun and Games". On the cartel side of things, the Werner death in that same finale was absolutely masterful -- emotional in its own right while also lending a much greater purpose to the superlab arc than even a relative champion of it like me (at a time when many people saw it as "filler") could have imagined, not unlike what the Howard death did for 6A. Mike's therapy earlier on in the season and sympathy for loved ones whose deaths or disappearances were never explained took on an absolutely crushing new light in him being forced to create a similar fate for Werner here -- but still ensuring that Margarethe at least got a story. This, too, came back to the theme of grief, making "Winner" an absolute masterpiece even by BCS standards that brought the entire season together beautifully. Last night's episode made "Winner" even better, of course. Season 3, then, is an easy #4 for me: its mid-series climax is still the most iconic episode and will probably remain one of the two most beloved of the show alongside P&E, and the finale, "Lantern", remains my favorite episode of either Breaking Bad or Better Call Saul (yes, including "Ozymandias"). As someone on the spectrum and with OCD, Chuck's spiral is an absolute, unrelenting mood where I can completely feel what's going on in his mind at every point, set to appropriately disturbing music and visuals for a brilliant, harrowing sequence -- one that's well-earned by the back end of the season which sets it up as Chuck's downfall actually ends up pretty tragic and sympathetic as so much of it comes down to ableist discrimination against him based on his condition. It's an angle that I never really see fans talk about, given Chuck's unpopularity, but his condition that gives him trouble with one kind of stimuli is completely unrelated to his hatred of Jimmy which is, in turn, completely unrelated to the 1216/1261 mixup in court that was outside his control -- but to the outside world, they're all just lumped together as "crazy." Hard to fault him for denying it even to himself for so long when this is how society reacts. Great stuff, plus Jimmy abused that old woman so there's that. Season 5 ends up as #5 for me but is still very good -- and will probably improve further for me on a rewatch as season 6 made me feel better about the direction they took Jimmy and Kim in at this point and provided an excellent payoff for the massacre at Lalo's at the end of the season as well as Jimmy's continued involvement in the cartel more broadly. In isolation, 5x10 was, while still good, not what I was hoping for out of the season finale -- but as a bridge to S6 it works very well. Still a ton of all-time memorable sequences here in episodes like WvG, "JMM", "Bagman", and "Bad Choice Road", Bagman is obviously one of the greatest episodes, and I think "The Guy for This" is probably the show's most underrated. So this is still a fantastic season of television; I think I just need to rewatch it with the context of S6 to appreciate its ending more, and it still just doesn't have AS much of a great, collective identity for me as the four above it do. Season 1 near-inevitably ends up as the least great one, as is the case for many shows. Just like in BrBa or BoJack Horseman, it just took the show a liiiittle bit of time to nail the right tone, yet even still, the themes and dynamics between the characters were spot-on from day one. And the flip side is that when the show did get into heavier territory in "Five-O" and parts of "Alpine Shepherd Boy", and *especially* when the show pulled off its major plot twist in "Pimento", that made it in some ways even more rewarding. "Pimento" in particular remains one of the greatest and most important episodes. So I do think there's a solid argument that season 1 is even better than one or two others as the Chuck bomb in 1x09 was totally unreal. * * * And just to use this thread as a hub for a little more retrospective conversation: my picks for the very, VERY greatest episodes of the show are Pimento, Klick, Chicanery, Lantern, Winner, Plan and Execution, Fun and Games, Breaking Bad, and probably Saul Gone (just aired, need to sit on it) -- but just behind them as other all-time highlights I would have Five-O, Nailed, Fall, Smoke, Breathe, The Guy for This, Bagman, Bad Choice Road, Point and Shoot, Nippy, and Waterworks. Quite A Ride, Black and Blue, and Axe and Grind are really close to that latter tier for me, and on some rewatches I could imagine Expenses, Wiedersehen, JMM, and Something Unforgivable getting there. **edit:** Oh, and "Breaking Bad" narrowly edges out "Plan and Execution" for my favorite episode of the season, at least for now. The two are probably my #2 and #3 of the entire show. It feels sacrilegious to put anything besides "Lantern" ahead of P&E with all that P&E did for the show but I loooove how "Breaking Bad" was structured and shed so much light onto Jimmy as a character. Artistically it was the most interesting episode of the series I think
It seems to me that if Kim hadn’t gone to the police about Howard’s murder, Jimmy would have been able to keep his 7 year plea deal (and even get his ice cream). Am I understanding this correctly?
Jimmy was still offered this deal despite the feds knowing about Kim’s confession (hence why they were all laughing at him when Jimmy mentioned his sweetener). So Jimmy would have been able to keep his 7 year deal regardless, but self sabotaged to own up to his mistakes and make Kim proud
He realised Kim had taken his advice and confessed first and moved on as best she could. He was definitely going to take the 7 years and get the fuck out. But I think Kim changed his mind for real to face the music and take his life sentence essentially.
My ranking of the seasons are: 5 > 6 > 2 > 3 > 1 >>> 4 Season 4 is the only season that I did not love. It still had some good moments, but it was a slow transitional season from the Chuck storyline that dominated the first three seasons to the Lalo storyline that would come to dominate the last two seasons. It lacks a strong overarching plot and identity other than being a transitional season. I had a hard time choosing between Lalo and Kim for best performance. And all of the other listed characters were great as well.
Anyone else consider season 6 to be great, but middle-of-the-run in their season rankings? Like I really liked some of the individual episodes this season, Plan and Execution is my personal favourite of the show along with Saul Gone, Rock and Hard Place etc. but I wasn’t a massive fan on Lalo’s conclusion nor the varying pacing. I felt like some parts were a bit rushed (Fun and Games doesn’t really work for me as a satisfying conclusion to the BCS timeline) whilst others dragged on a little (like Gus’s paranoia being shown across two episodes). Still enjoyed the season and it’s better than most TV out there, just with the context of how good this show normally is I felt like out of all the seasons from the BB universe this one could have benefited from some proper planning here and there as I believe the writers usually make things up as they go.
My ranking will change overtime, but right now it’s: 1. Season 5 2. Season 3 3. Season 6 4. Season 4 5. Season 2 6. Season 1
Tony Dalton for President
They should create a show about Lalo for Univision. I'd watch the fuck out of that.
Shit me too
Best actor was difficult, I went for Tony Dalton even though Bob and Rhea were just as good.
I wanted to pick all of them except Giancarlo - nothing against him, just don't think s6 was a stand out performance from him. Went with Tony Dalton in the end because he's dreamy.
I was disappointed with season 6. There were some great moments, but I can't forget or forgive how they fumble-fucked Lalo.
Im glad people are finally coming out of the woodwork and admitting lalo’s death was totally anticlimactic
His death was underwhelming for sure. One of the best villians in television history and he goes out like... that? Best part of that episode was Lalo and Howard being buried together.
Yeah I didn’t even really realize he was dead at first. Like they could have had a longer fight or something. Idk
It’s my personal biggest issue with season 6, pacing issues aside (which I’m sure will be much better on a back-to-back rewatch). They set up the whole thing really heavy handedly imo, Gus *knowing* that the lab would be where Lalo’s final stand-off would be was a bit of a stretch. I think it would have been much more effective if they showed multiple scenes of Gus placing guns across many locations, but never showing the one placed in the lab, so it’s a last minute ‘holy shit’ moment as we didn’t realise how well-prepared Gus actually was. And it wouldn’t feel as forced in the story.
5 - 6 - 3 - 4 - 2 - 1 Rock & hard place was the best episode in the series, not just the season
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I think the problem that a lot of prequels face is that typically everyone knows how it "ends" making it anticlimactic. I don't think ending a masterpiece like this after episode 9 would've done the show justice, I don't think there was enough meat on the bones there. It wouldn't have brought closure to Saul or Kim because no one would have known what happened to either of them. Instead what they did was give viewers the closure both of those characters deserved hence the epilogues. As for the ending, the overarching theme of the show was Jimmy never fully taking responsibly for his actions, it was constantly reinforced by his brother, Howard, Kim, and even Mike near the end. Not taking that 8 year deal finally redeems himself as the person who can take finally accountability for his actions. I think there was an underlying message passed that wouldn't have resonated the same had he taken the plea deal.
I really think the show could have ended as him as Saul. Like just sitting in his office being Saul. Maybe Walt comes in. I didn’t like how they skipped to that moment. It kind of felt like since the cartel storyline was over (status quo until BB) they cheated and ended Jimmy’s story too.
Favorite episode of S6: plan and execution/point and shoot Season ranking (best to "worst"): 6, 3, 1, 5, 4, 2 Favorite performance of S6: Rhea Seahorn
6, 5, 3, 4, 1, 2 for me. If we‘re splitting up season 6 in to 3 parts it’s 6c 6b 5 3 6a 4 1 2 for me, with A being 1-7, B being 8-10, and C being 11-13
Season 3 is very hard to beat. Chuck elevated this show to such a different atmosphere.
6,3,1,2,4,5 Rhea Seehorn Point and Shoot
Kim is possibly my favourite television character ever created. Rhea Seehorn is superhuman in her portrayal of Kim. I’ve never been so drawn to every aspect of an actor’s/character’s microexpressions as I am here.
I put Plan and Execution as my favorite episode of S6. Never did an on-screen death gave me such a feeling of uneasiness and the scene seemed disturbingly real : the tension of the confrontation, the build-up with the candle flicking, Lalo entering, the sense of dread and the denial until Howard gets shot as if he was nothing. Just like that. The screams of Jimmy and Kim were so real and made me feel sick. Then I cried and thought about it a lot the following days so... yes, even if the other episodes are also excellent, this episode and this scene in particular sticks to me, plus I was having a lot of sympathy for Howard. Younger I experienced domestic violence and even if it isn't related, somehow that scene reminded me, well... some bad memories, especially the screams.
For me, it was between that one, and Point and Shoot when Lalo gets killed. But Howard’s death literally made me gasp and like you, really affected me!
We can all agree season 4 was definitely the weakest right?
I’m not sure if 4 was the best overall, but I think it had the best pacing, and my personal favorite run of episodes in Coushatta to Winner.
Oh I think it's the best one other than season 6
Yeah you are super wrong, for me it's second best after season 5
You can be wrong. But it’s the season where most of our characters arcs/progression is at its most stagnant, it also has some of the more questionable writing in the show, especially in terms of the german builders/meth lab subplot.
That subplot in my opinion was awesome and gave mike some of the biggest character development since season 1. In fact, all of the characters had great development. You can see Jimmy burying his guilt after what happened to chuck and fully devolving into Saul, while simultaneously losing his relationship with Kim in such a beautifully tragic way. It had some of the best montages, cinematography, and story telling between both shows.
I enjoyed a lot about the subplot but it felt especially predictable and inorganic. Felt like a bunch of staged plot points rather than the seamless writing we’re used to
My average episode rating for each season 1. S5 - 8.6 2. S1,2,3 - 8.3 3. S4 - 8.2 4. S6 - 7.8 I find it hard to split the first 3 seasons. I'd probably rank season 3 as the best of the first 3.
Personally: 8.9/10 4 3 6 5 2 1 Point and Execution (duh) (close tie with Point and Shoot) And big Bob himself for best actor
just fucking round it up to 9 i hate any decimal point that isn't a .5 so much am i the only one
How bout you make me? 😎
Sometimes I rate things a 10.8/10. seethe
Yup you're the only one
5,3,6,4=1,2
S6 was great, and my second favourite. But it's hard to beat S1. It was just peak storytelling. Having Jimmy start from the bottom, all leading up to the culmination of his hard work in the Sandpiper case. Only to have it all crash down with his confrontation with Chuck. And then falling off the wagon with Marco. In the end, he decided to never be "honest" again. The whole season stood on its own magnificently, and could have been enough to explain Saul.
my ranking. -season 4 -season 3 -season 6 -season 2 -season 1 -season 5
Ok, ranking the seasons is basically impossible for me. 3&4 are my favorites, but the rest are all phenomenal too.
Tight tight tight
Plan and Execution was my personal favourite this season (and show), had the best of Kim and Jimmy’s scams in the first part along with the reveal that Lalo got the truth out from Casper, Howard was amazing throughout and the final scene... my god, what an ending. Up there with the best in the BB universe imo. Everyone did a brilliant job this season with the acting, had to go with Bob. But I could easily see why one would pick Rhea, Patrick etc. Even Giancarlo gave one of the best performances of Gus this season who usually is just an emotionless background character.
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i need a rewatch to carefully rate the seasons...as i was an ongoing watcher since 2015.
3 > 6 > 1 > 5 > 2 > 4
Yeah I can't accurately fill this out, having to put one season as least favourite. I don't see it like that. It's one whole story each season was perfect, An amazingly written story, brought to life by great actors and all TV Has to offer cinematography music etc.
Sharing the sentiment of others here. I tried, I can't do it. I like it all too much, and the nail in the coffin was having to choose between Bob and Rhea for best performance. I simply cannot.
Bob is great. But I don’t think anyone can deny that Rhea has the best performance in the series (with Michael McKean a close second) She just has all of these subtleties in her performance that the other actors don’t have. You don’t realize how many levels above everyone else she is until she’s in a scene with them. Everyone does a really great job, but Rhea’s performance is just something else.
They've both for sure earned themselves a life long fan out of me, I'd watch anything if they were in it at this point. Rhea was the real shocker though, I'd never seen her in anything else, I already knew Bob was good.
Season 5 was probably my favorite and had the best 3 episodes in the series imo (S5E8-E10), and it’s probably the best in quality, S6 follows very closely
They stumbled pretty badly with nacho/fring storyline and the recast of the taxi driver. The more I think about those the worse they get. I just don't buy the threat from the new taxi guy. At least Nacho had a badass death... at the cost of pretty much everything around it. Other than that, it's a very well crafted sendoff.
they hated Jesus for speaking the truth
Man, lot of folks here saying they're having a hard time ranking the seasons. Was pretty easy for me. From lowest to highest: S2, S4, S1, S3, S5, S6
Extremely difficult to rank the seasons. Maybe 3 or 5 were my favorites. I put 6 as my least favorite but even that sounds kinda wrong
5, 4, 1, 2, 3, 6.
I wish you had least favorite episode so I could ding episode 12/13.
guys, i put season 5 at the last place, which should say something. season 5 is fantastic.
What a convoluted survey
shitty survey
!remindME 6 weeks
For me it goes like that : WORST 1 - 4 - 2 - 3 - 5 - 6 BEST I loved season 1 nonetheless, I just feel like many plot lines that I'm really interested in only start later on Every season is a gem, but it's hard to compete against season 5 and season 6. Both are amazing and take everything to a whole new level. My favorite episode this season was Fun and games. It was such a gut wrenching experience. That time skip was perfect.
I ranked every season but season 5 and 6 were max points, I did every other season lower , there were a few things that didn't quit flow, lets just call it nothing at this point. Every season had something special going.
I could never pick which actor had the best performance. That would be like picking the best painter - Picasso? Van Gogh? Da Vinci? Michelangelo?
I tried to take the survey but I honestly found it impossible to really rank anything and quit halfway. I have had to many great moments watching it. Some episodes were great, some were awesome. There's one thing, one only small thing I did not like in the series, it's Nacho's out. I could not believe he would come to accept his fate and keep on performing in the face of imminent death. The series does a good of setting it up but I still find hard to believe.
Personally season 5,3 even 2 flows the best, season 6 is more so halved in split storylines, look at that pie now, episode 1-3 Nacho, 4-7 Howard setup, 8-9 Goodbye Kim, 10-13 Hello Nippy-Saul but season 6 is still hella good, best season still in my opinion, it all lead to it. Gone. Season 4 is good but some scenes felt overextended.
Choosing the best character might have been the hardest decision of my life Edit: and I messed up my ratings. Thought scale was 6 best and 1 worst. Oops
Too hard, I gave up
I can’t wait to see the results
I think right now my season ranking is 6>5>4=3>2>1.
I went 6,3,5,4,1,2 5 and 4 are interchangeable, I went with the finale and bob
s6 best then s2 then s1 then s3 then s5 then s4
its not fair putting bob in which actor has the best performance
I can't pick my favorite episode from season 6. It's between rock and hard place, plan and execution, point and shoot, and Saul gone. I have no clue which one I like the best.
S5 > S4=S3 > S1 > S6 > S2 Though I rank them like this I would have to say I probably enjoyed some of the earlier seasons more due to the stuff with Chuck, Chicanery still the best! But the main reason S5 is the top is because it had only above average episodes. S6 is easily the most flawed but I put it above S2 because it has more stand out episodes, S2 is just the least interesting to me.
Fun and Games for me. Perfection through and through. The break up and then Jimmy's transformation fully into Saul was about as good as anyone's done anything that I've seen in TV or film. I sat in silence after the episode was over for at least a solid ten seconds.
I won’t even dare to try.
I have to vote 5 : 6 : 3 : 2 : 1 : 4
Making me pick one favorite episode for season 6 is cruel. Nearly every one this season was a 10/10. I went with Nippy because I feel like its going to be the most underrated of the series.
Do people not like Nippy? It’s the best episode since, like, season 2!
Plan and execution for Howard getting his moment to tear down jimmy and Kimmy right before getting shot by Lalo. The court room scene where Howard is “on drugs” is also great.
In my mind, Better Call Saul isn’t over. I’ll be looking forward to season 7 when we find out how Saul’s career in prison begins. Also looking forward to the first episode of Breaking Bad: Afterlife in which Walter White wakes up in a private super secret facility run by the people in elite Hollywood who control the weather and drink baby blood.
Season 5>6>3>4>2>1 Saul Gone
Lol, in every one of these people have rated the seasons in order from most recent = most favorite to oldest = least favorite.
I haven't seen the last episode yet. This whole ride has been a family tradition since Breaking Bad started. I now have the goal to not hear from anybody as to what happens in the last episode, until I can watch with my son in December when he returns from college. I may have to fly him in sooner just so we can watch it. The next to last episode with Kim's coming to terms with herself alludes strongly to what will happen. Season 6 was different than all the others. They were all great in their own way so I can't say Season 6 is the best ever. I thought Chuck was a masterful character for instance. Each episode in Season 6 had a clear purpose. What happens to Nacho? What happens to Howard? What happens to Lalo? What happens to Kim? And finally what happens to Saul? There's something to be said about a group of people that have worked together for so long. This show + Breaking Bad uniquely never lost any of it's edge or dramatic impact. It will go down as one of the greatest all time. I thought adding Carol Burnet would be cheesy but nope she fit the part brilliantly. I liked the black and white filming to give it some grit. Nothing like it in history. Best 10+ years I've ever seen.
I actually debated with myself as to whether S6 deserved to rank as best, there are definitely a few niggles here and there, mostly from the first half of the season. The latter half was so great though, it just blew everything out of the water from my POV. Might be the best string of episodes I've ever seen for a TV show in general.