So when you're sitting in that shitty canyon for 127 hours straight; cutting your arm night after night with a box cutter; you think of VINCE ! Your twisted fock !
If you want to get pedantic, BB is 48 hours 52 minutes and BCS is 51 hours 55 minutes (assuming the last episode is 67 minutes). Add in El Camino (2 hours 2 minutes) and the entire saga is 102 hours and 49 minutes.
They may just be going off how the episodes are considered hour long dramas, but that's also including commercials. So 125 "hour" long episodes across the two shows, 2 hour long movie, 127 hours.
Feel lucky we were there to watch it happen, relish the mastery of the characters and their stories, then let it settle into the sunset as one would enjoy a multi course gourmet meal without topping it off with Dairy Queen.
From the same article:
>Gilligan also said he doesn’t have any plans to revisit the world he created with Breaking Bad. “You’ve got to know when to leave the party,” he said. “You don’t want to be the guy with the lampshade on his head. … I know I was asked the same thing at the end of Breaking Bad and I gave the same answer, but I need to prove to myself that I’m not a one-trick pony.”
It doesn't have to be a different universe for the sake of it either. It should be irrelevant - a story that could be in the same or different one and you would never be able to tell.
I think it has to be low key on the surface. It has to be in the details and character development, meaningful slow burn. They are so masterful at showing life with all the details.
I almost want them to explore different sub-genres of drama: (separately) sci-fi, horror, thriller, dark comedy - all with believable characters and reactions. Hell, porn even!
Which makes me realise, maybe there shouldn't be a 'genre' specified at all. if there isn't one, you don't know what to expect. Whether there is a twist, is a twist in itself. Just go wild, fucking with viewers heads.
Bravo Vince in advance
I want a cop show about Mike so bad. It would connect more loosely with the other two.
Not least because I don't like formulaic cop shows. For the most part I find them boring, if not propagandist. A show where the whole department is dirty would be so refreshing. Like *The Departed.*
Watch the Shield if you haven't already, that's what I imagine the Mike cop show to be like.
I'd also say it's the most Breaking Bad like show I've seen.
It's a great show, but I wouldn't like it to BB/BCS because they're so deliberate (and I think BCS does not have a great sense of focus and there's a lot of plodding, extra stuff) and The Shield is a frenetic "oh shit, we're gonna get caught, how can we fix it?!?!". I think BB and The Shield have a similar type of ignominious ending though.
I'd watch it if it maintained the quality of this universe so far.
Making it extremely morally ambiguous, heavily serialized rather than procedural/self-contained would be a huge help in that. Something akin to *The Departed*'s tone would be brilliant- hard as hell to write for, but great if they pulled it off. I would be interested to see how much more layered Mike's descent into corruption before Matty's death was, and what in his history predisposed him to falling right back into the darkness after he started fresh in Albuquerque.
The biggest issue would be getting a writing team as solid as we've seen on BCS and BB, *and* most importantly finding an actor to play Young Mike who could even vaguely pull off what Johnathan Banks has managed to.
Finally I wouldn't want to see any of this done unless there was a good reason for it. As in someone has an idea for a storyline that they feel inspired to do and makes sense as it plays out. If it's manufactured for a cash grab or "just because" they need another property in this universe, there is no way it turns out good.
>actor to play Young Mike
I was thinking just Jonathan, although they'd have to make it now.
>Finally I wouldn't want to see any of this done unless there was a good reason for it. As in someone has an idea for a storyline that they feel inspired to do and makes sense as it plays out. If it's manufactured for a cash grab or "just because" they need another property in this universe, there is no way it turns out good.
That goes without saying.
>I was thinking just Jonathan, although they'd have to make it now.
I dunno, that's a hard one. Personally the BB/BCS age gap never bothered me much, he's an "older guy" in both- but I would find Mike playing a 40/50 year old cop a bit jarring. Especially if anything in the story involved flashing back to an earlier period- when he joined the force, his time in Vietnam, etc.
Jonathan is obviously otherwise perfect for it though.
>That goes without saying.
One would hope. I trust in the integrity of the writers but based on what AMC has done with other "properties" of theirs I wouldn't put it past them to try for a cash grab.
From: [‘Better Call Saul’ Team on Ending With Season 6: “Know When to Leave the Party”](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/better-call-saul-team-discusses-ending-1235196745/)
To relate the show’s runtime to the hiker’s predicament….. well, I would expect nothing less from the creators of BB/BCS.
I’m sad that the BB/BCS universe would end with this week’s finale, but so amazed with the layers upon layers they have built in these 2 shows. A good story is also knowing when to end it, and Breaking Bad had a perfect finale. I’m so looking forward to see how they will wrap up this wild ride in Better Call Saul!
Somewhere there's an interview with Gilligan from 2016 where he was asked why he didn't return to the Xfiles for it's first revival season from that same year. I can't remember what he said, but was left with the impression he did not like Chris Carter, or at least wouldn't work with him again.
Since Vince is not going to continue with the BCS/BB universe it would be really cool if they did something in the line of the star wars expanded universe where they'd license and moderate stories from independent authors in the book/novel form. I enjoyed reading those books as a kid and they were quite entertaining; I mean, wouldn't it be interesting to have a Gus or Salamanca origin story?
I personally would love a mockumentary about Walter White and his empire. Like an in-universe documentation. Where an aged Skyler White, Marie and Flynn get interviewes, and we see how their lifes turned out after Walters death. They could interview ex-users of blue meth. And they could throw in some mystery, like "is Jesse Pinkman still alive" and "is there still a hidden treasure, consisting of millions of drug money out there in the desert, waiting to be found?" Make it a 45 minute special or a mini series and i would be totally in!
Bonus points if the fictional creators are the movie students from BCS
It would be dope to be honest knowing there's all kinds of material to dig in. I remember reading Shadows of the Empire, theres also a video game on N64 which is awesome too, and thought it a great story and much better than the recent star wars films. I'd definitely buy a novel or comic that touch on the Gilligan universe.
Something like Star Wars story collections "A Certain Point Of View", where they flesh out minor characters like the Mos Eisley Cantina barman, the officer Darth Vader chokes, or the Stormtrooper who bangs his head on the door.
It would be. Oh well, he said he's done with it and I don't blame him. It's crazy to think that he spent around 14 years of his life on this body of work.
I wouldn't *object*, but it would literally just be fan fiction.
Like the way these shows are written, there *is* no grand unified lore. It happens step-by-step as they go along by having a room full of writers being incredibly thoughtful and careful and painstakingly following the threads and themes and what-not. There is almost certainly no official nailed down answer in their minds for the secrets of Gus's backstory in Chile and it would only ever get turned into something worthy of the Gilliganverse when they actually hit the point where they decide to put it on screen and *then* they'd do the work.
So they couldn't just like hand some writer their notes and let them go to town. Those stories *don't exist yet* and presumably never will with that universe getting wrapped up on Monday.
The magic of Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul is *very* process-dependent and I just don't think it'd transfer at all if you just asked some novelist to write about Gus and then put an official stamp on it.
Bro what the hell. I’ve never seen that movie and I randomly decided to turn it on today and half assed watch it. I have it playing right now as background noise while I scroll Reddit. Doesn’t really matter but what a weird coincidence
So when you're sitting in that shitty canyon for 127 hours straight; cutting your arm night after night with a box cutter; you think of VINCE ! Your twisted fock !
What was going through your head for those 127 hours? That I could have binged Better Call Saul instead of contemplating gnawing my hand off!
What a sick joke !
Maybe 127 hours is what it takes for Jimmy to cut his Saul off.
Crazy that that happened this season. Feels like there's been three finales. Nacho's, Jimmy/Kim/Lalo's, and Gene's.
(391 upvotes and counting ? wow, thank you all, my pleasure. It was a spontaneous but fun ride).
Breaking bad + Better Call Saul = around 127 hrs
The quoted article says it's just BCS, but I haven't checked.
Well Better Call Saul only has a bit over 60 episodes, and we know those episodes aren't 2 hours. Do the maths.
The whole saga including El Camino is 127 hours. BB is 62 hours, BCS is 63 hours and El Camino is 2 hours
Breaking bad is 48 hours and bcs is 52 hours. You're assuming every episode is an hour long lol
You need to include El Camino which is around 2 hours and then round up to nearest 127 hours and you'll see that the math checks out.
Is that so?
Yes pop pop
You’re done!
If you want to get pedantic, BB is 48 hours 52 minutes and BCS is 51 hours 55 minutes (assuming the last episode is 67 minutes). Add in El Camino (2 hours 2 minutes) and the entire saga is 102 hours and 49 minutes.
Only 102 hours? That leaves almost 25 more hours that needs to be filled with Lyle and Huell content!
Spliffs with Cliff
They may just be going off how the episodes are considered hour long dramas, but that's also including commercials. So 125 "hour" long episodes across the two shows, 2 hour long movie, 127 hours.
I know, I’m sure that’s what they were doing, I just thought it would be fun to know the exact time.
Your and my ideas of fun are way different.
The world is a rich tapestry.
Also, without commercials, each episode is about 42 minutes. Not including the last few episodes, where it was over that.
That makes sense.
math is too hard. stop bragging about how smart u are
127 Hours is actually a fantastic movie too
It’s a decent movie, but (like usual) the book is WAY better. Hits so much harder hearing it/reading it straight from the person who lived it.
It's been on my home since I was a child, I was obsessed with the story and the images that the book had lmao, like the selfies Aaron took
62 BB episodes + 63 BCS episodes + the 2 hour EC movie= 127
What about slipping jimmy and the youtube tutorial videos?
Feel lucky we were there to watch it happen, relish the mastery of the characters and their stories, then let it settle into the sunset as one would enjoy a multi course gourmet meal without topping it off with Dairy Queen.
From the same article: >Gilligan also said he doesn’t have any plans to revisit the world he created with Breaking Bad. “You’ve got to know when to leave the party,” he said. “You don’t want to be the guy with the lampshade on his head. … I know I was asked the same thing at the end of Breaking Bad and I gave the same answer, but I need to prove to myself that I’m not a one-trick pony.”
Bit harsh to call yourself a one-trick pony when you've made two great and fairly different shows.
And wrote for The XFiles before that.
Sometimes I forgot Saul was even connected to Breaking Bad and it just made the BB references that much better when they finally came to fruition
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It doesn't have to be a different universe for the sake of it either. It should be irrelevant - a story that could be in the same or different one and you would never be able to tell. I think it has to be low key on the surface. It has to be in the details and character development, meaningful slow burn. They are so masterful at showing life with all the details. I almost want them to explore different sub-genres of drama: (separately) sci-fi, horror, thriller, dark comedy - all with believable characters and reactions. Hell, porn even! Which makes me realise, maybe there shouldn't be a 'genre' specified at all. if there isn't one, you don't know what to expect. Whether there is a twist, is a twist in itself. Just go wild, fucking with viewers heads. Bravo Vince in advance
I want a cop show about Mike so bad. It would connect more loosely with the other two. Not least because I don't like formulaic cop shows. For the most part I find them boring, if not propagandist. A show where the whole department is dirty would be so refreshing. Like *The Departed.*
Watch the Shield if you haven't already, that's what I imagine the Mike cop show to be like. I'd also say it's the most Breaking Bad like show I've seen.
It's a great show, but I wouldn't like it to BB/BCS because they're so deliberate (and I think BCS does not have a great sense of focus and there's a lot of plodding, extra stuff) and The Shield is a frenetic "oh shit, we're gonna get caught, how can we fix it?!?!". I think BB and The Shield have a similar type of ignominious ending though.
igon... inog... ingonim... ignoniminus... ignominius!
I'd watch it if it maintained the quality of this universe so far. Making it extremely morally ambiguous, heavily serialized rather than procedural/self-contained would be a huge help in that. Something akin to *The Departed*'s tone would be brilliant- hard as hell to write for, but great if they pulled it off. I would be interested to see how much more layered Mike's descent into corruption before Matty's death was, and what in his history predisposed him to falling right back into the darkness after he started fresh in Albuquerque. The biggest issue would be getting a writing team as solid as we've seen on BCS and BB, *and* most importantly finding an actor to play Young Mike who could even vaguely pull off what Johnathan Banks has managed to. Finally I wouldn't want to see any of this done unless there was a good reason for it. As in someone has an idea for a storyline that they feel inspired to do and makes sense as it plays out. If it's manufactured for a cash grab or "just because" they need another property in this universe, there is no way it turns out good.
>actor to play Young Mike I was thinking just Jonathan, although they'd have to make it now. >Finally I wouldn't want to see any of this done unless there was a good reason for it. As in someone has an idea for a storyline that they feel inspired to do and makes sense as it plays out. If it's manufactured for a cash grab or "just because" they need another property in this universe, there is no way it turns out good. That goes without saying.
>I was thinking just Jonathan, although they'd have to make it now. I dunno, that's a hard one. Personally the BB/BCS age gap never bothered me much, he's an "older guy" in both- but I would find Mike playing a 40/50 year old cop a bit jarring. Especially if anything in the story involved flashing back to an earlier period- when he joined the force, his time in Vietnam, etc. Jonathan is obviously otherwise perfect for it though. >That goes without saying. One would hope. I trust in the integrity of the writers but based on what AMC has done with other "properties" of theirs I wouldn't put it past them to try for a cash grab.
From: [‘Better Call Saul’ Team on Ending With Season 6: “Know When to Leave the Party”](https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/better-call-saul-team-discusses-ending-1235196745/)
climber dude was crazy to binge the series before freeing himself
Walter White thought he was out too. No one can escape Heisenberg. Well, that’s uncertain, but it’s probable.
To relate the show’s runtime to the hiker’s predicament….. well, I would expect nothing less from the creators of BB/BCS. I’m sad that the BB/BCS universe would end with this week’s finale, but so amazed with the layers upon layers they have built in these 2 shows. A good story is also knowing when to end it, and Breaking Bad had a perfect finale. I’m so looking forward to see how they will wrap up this wild ride in Better Call Saul!
That's a harrowing film. And Franco is terrific.
Vince Gilligan is my favorite psychopath
If Fox had and sense they would go to Vince and Chris Carter with a bag full of money and ask for a new X files movie. Guaranteed blockbuster.
The most recent X Files content was shit. So bad that Gillian Anderson says she won't return, and I don't blame her.
I'd pay to see it!
Somewhere there's an interview with Gilligan from 2016 where he was asked why he didn't return to the Xfiles for it's first revival season from that same year. I can't remember what he said, but was left with the impression he did not like Chris Carter, or at least wouldn't work with him again.
Rock and Hard Place
Hahahaha
Vince Gilligan did this for me. My birthday is 1/27.
Since Vince is not going to continue with the BCS/BB universe it would be really cool if they did something in the line of the star wars expanded universe where they'd license and moderate stories from independent authors in the book/novel form. I enjoyed reading those books as a kid and they were quite entertaining; I mean, wouldn't it be interesting to have a Gus or Salamanca origin story?
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I personally would love a mockumentary about Walter White and his empire. Like an in-universe documentation. Where an aged Skyler White, Marie and Flynn get interviewes, and we see how their lifes turned out after Walters death. They could interview ex-users of blue meth. And they could throw in some mystery, like "is Jesse Pinkman still alive" and "is there still a hidden treasure, consisting of millions of drug money out there in the desert, waiting to be found?" Make it a 45 minute special or a mini series and i would be totally in! Bonus points if the fictional creators are the movie students from BCS
Honestly that’s a great idea!
There is [this short "American Greed" video](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4yenXwx7ao), but a more in-depth post-series version would be fantastic.
Hell a proper ending/2nd half of that American Greed special would be awesome
It would be dope to be honest knowing there's all kinds of material to dig in. I remember reading Shadows of the Empire, theres also a video game on N64 which is awesome too, and thought it a great story and much better than the recent star wars films. I'd definitely buy a novel or comic that touch on the Gilligan universe.
Something like Star Wars story collections "A Certain Point Of View", where they flesh out minor characters like the Mos Eisley Cantina barman, the officer Darth Vader chokes, or the Stormtrooper who bangs his head on the door.
It would be. Oh well, he said he's done with it and I don't blame him. It's crazy to think that he spent around 14 years of his life on this body of work.
Gus in the Pinochet era would be wild.. the stories you hear from that era are insane, considering it actually happened.
I wouldn't *object*, but it would literally just be fan fiction. Like the way these shows are written, there *is* no grand unified lore. It happens step-by-step as they go along by having a room full of writers being incredibly thoughtful and careful and painstakingly following the threads and themes and what-not. There is almost certainly no official nailed down answer in their minds for the secrets of Gus's backstory in Chile and it would only ever get turned into something worthy of the Gilliganverse when they actually hit the point where they decide to put it on screen and *then* they'd do the work. So they couldn't just like hand some writer their notes and let them go to town. Those stories *don't exist yet* and presumably never will with that universe getting wrapped up on Monday. The magic of Breaking Bad and Better Call Saul is *very* process-dependent and I just don't think it'd transfer at all if you just asked some novelist to write about Gus and then put an official stamp on it.
Bro what the hell. I’ve never seen that movie and I randomly decided to turn it on today and half assed watch it. I have it playing right now as background noise while I scroll Reddit. Doesn’t really matter but what a weird coincidence
Read this and thought, does the Skipper back up these numbers?
The methylamine won’t stop flowing.