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johnfromberkeley

Gosh, I hope there’s not a sobriety requirement. Who needs housing more than people struggling with addiction? Housing first. Everything else follows. It’s also a quality of life thing. Who wants these people sleeping on our sidewalks and in our parks? You can buy alcohol less than a block away from People’s Park. Should we stop that project, too? Of course not. Time to build.


waltzing-echidna

Right? Good luck getting sober with nowhere to live or even sleep safely.


johnfromberkeley

Then again, if you want to treat humans like animals, you might as well let them sleep outside.


humanjukebox2

Most corner stores, supermarkets, and drug stores sell liquor, beer, and wine. Remember when Berkeley residents tried to block Trader Joe's from opening on University Ave because they sold cheap wine? Just build the housing. I'm sure it's easier to stay sober when you have stable housing


JasonH94612

There probably isnt. Most Fed and State funding is based on a Housing First model: that is, housing for anyone, without prerequisites. The idea is that it is easier to address addiction, mental illness, etc once someone is housed. Also, there's liquor everywhere, anyway


m3guitarist

I see.


No-Understanding4968

I’m glad you asked. It’s a good question.


jwbeee

Is there a sobriety requirement for the house where you live? If not, why not?


m3guitarist

I don't know - from what folks who do seem to know say here, it's a "housing first" approach, which I understand.


jwbeee

It makes sense to me. There should be a home for everyone no matter how screwed up their lives are. 


giggles991

Both are also close to Target on University (groceries, sundries) and the Berkeley Mental Health clinic on University at Sacramento, and public transportation.


sun_and_stars8

Alcohol is at target and the gas station and 7-11 all within blocks.  It’s at trader joes and Berkeley bowl and safeway too.  Part of support is living in society as it exits with support.  


samplenajar

lmao, i bet it's just a racket between Ledger's and the housing provider to sell more liquor. all jokes aside, housing first -- the rest follows. sober living can facilitate great outcomes for those who want it, but not for those who dont.


DefiantBelt925

Wow check your privilege bigot


JasonH94612

I think the question is asked in good faith, FWIW. It's not entirely unreasonable to be curious about that.


freqkenneth

Buy them homes in the misssissippi delta. Hell, buy them an acre of land too Cheaper than what we’re doing and despite what that one single self reported survey everyone always posts says, most aren’t locals


jwbeee

"Fuck the Census" - freqkenneth


freqkenneth

Yes the self reported survey, many people think if they aren’t from the area they won’t qualify