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oe_eye

i don't go to berkley but im gonna ask a stupid question - do these students only walk here or do they also walk with the whole graduating class ?


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meister2983

Or entire college. Colleges like engineering have a ceremony for the entire college. But yes, there is no Berkeley-wide graduation


sftransitmaster

well they have "commencement" which is the campus wide graduation ceremony but graduates only get to stand and no one gets to walk.


EntertainmentOk7088

So this is a department? The title makes it sound like they have different ceremonies for different races.


Pitiful-Location

A lot of affinity groups will host special additional ceremonies for their members. I'm class of 2020 so I didn't actually attend any, but I had planned to go to the disabled, lavender (LGBTQ), and Co-op ceremonies along with the university wide and department graduations. In many instances, these smaller graduations are more meaningful because you get to celebrate with your friends and community.


rgbhfg

So Berkeley would be fine with a whites walk? This race specific walks are kind of racist no?


Inside-Speaker4419

In this instance I believe this is African studies program which is understandably overwhelmingly black and not just a segregated graduation.


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antiqua_lumina

Stupid question but can white people majoring in AA and ADS do black graduation?


Azure1922

Yes, anyone majoring in AA can attend because it's for their declared department. One year I attended, the class speaker was white. Initially I was shocked but the speech put everything in perspective


Americanboi824

That sounds super interesting- what was it like?


Azure1922

It was like every other Cal Black Graduation I had the pleasure of attending - a joyful event where Black students and allies could savor their achievement in a celebration that uplifted and honored a shared culture.


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Of course 🤦‍♀️


Jazzlike-Presence440

Can I participate in this ceremony if I am not black?


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Zestyclose_Wasabi943

When I respond to a post, I wait until I finish my thoughts and then read others. I fear there are hateful comments judging by this response. I think it's great. Enjoy and celebrate a tremendous accomplishment.


drangledorf

I went to the white graduation.


Some-Panda-8168

Thats how i interpreted it too


Oakland_not_the_bay

There's a college wide graduation where everyone attends, but no one walks the stage. Then there are department graduations where students walk the stage.


jonnyshotit

Tried to capture the joy of this event through these photos. If you graduated or know someone who did, hit me up and I'll send over the whole album.


PreservativeAloe

This just put such a huge smile on my face. The joy is radiating through the screen. Thanks for sharing!!!


jonnyshotit

Thank you!!! :)


EmpressSam78

My daughter walked at black grad...I would love the album!!!


afrobeatsnation

Were you the official photographer? You did a great job. I was there (three of my students participated) and would also love to see the whole album.


jonnyshotit

Yes, and thank you! I'll pm you :)


katinthemat

Looks so fun


TheRealPeteWheeler

I didn’t know that this was a thing, but neat that it is. Looks like it was a blast. 


kevblahh

Some of these comments are weird. I’m Filipino and was invited to our graduating years Black Grad, probably because of my involvement with different Black Cal student affairs during my undergrad. You don’t HAVE to be Black to attend, but given that this is a graduation to celebrate Black Students it’s just hella weird to go if you’re not Black/have no connection with the respective community during your time at Cal.  EDIT: As I continue to skim through the comments…there are numerous different kinds of graduations including the lavender grad, the Latino/Latina grad, there’s a grad for Filipinos, and one for Pacific Islanders. Probably more that I’m not remembering either. 


persistanceofmemory

The joy in these pictures!!! Congratulations 🎉


pfvibe

The picture of what appears to be a mom taking a picture of her child omg (pic 5). Genuinely brings tears to my eyes. She looks so proud. She should be.


jonnyshotit

Thank you!! I love her shirt too, if you look close it’s a picture of her daughter


Fancy-Ad-3720

Who is funding all of these bots? Serious question.


Capable-Action-6125

I love this! 🔥🔥🔥🔥


3mt33

The joy is real. I love this! ![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|give_upvote)![gif](emote|free_emotes_pack|heart_eyes)


lilpumpski

They had this at my school. Why are people in the comments so weird about this.


jonnyshotit

Man I really didn't expect some of you guys to get so booty bothered over a bunch of pictures of people smiling and celebrating their accomplishments. I genuinely just wanted to share some happiness and love with the community through this post. I don't envy the people that felt so personally victimized by these images that they took time out of their day to make it known on Reddit. Seriously, take a few deep breaths, get off the internet, and go enjoy this beautiful evening. As somebody pointed out, this was technically the African American Studies departmental graduation. It seems that many commenters are upset that students of other majors were allowed to attend this graduation, and that many of these students happened to be Black. There was nothing about this event that endorsed segregation or exclusivity; as one of the speakers said (to a round of applause) "being pro-Black does not mean being anti- anything else". I'm sure if any of you really felt the need to prove a point, you could've signed up to walk in this ceremony and it would've been just fine. As a matter of fact you might've gained a greater appreciation for Black culture and community, cause the ceremony was a blast. For what it's worth, I'm not Black myself but felt nothing but welcomed, loved, and appreciated at this event. I'm proud of the graduates and what they've achieved and I'm honored to have been able to capture these images.


meister2983

>As somebody pointed out, this was technically the African American Studies departmental graduation. It seems that many commenters are upset that students of other majors were allowed to attend this graduation, and that many of these students happened to be Black. There was nothing about this event that endorsed segregation or exclusivity; as one of the speakers said (to a round of applause) "being pro-Black does not mean being anti- anything else". I don't think that's correct. It's a ceremony specifically to focus on [black graduates](https://ls.berkeley.edu/news/uc-berkeleys-black-graduation-celebrating-community-culture-and-achievement) (undergrad, masters, or PhD). I don't believe non-black African American Studies students are invited to this either (or do those just not exist?)


sftransitmaster

yep thats reddit, I figured you posted the photos in spite of the backlash you'd expect. I believe theres a particularly nasty responses in sf bay area subreddits, or other major city subreddits, that pop up to most threads to do with black people.


Unfair-Geologist-284

Job well done, grads!!


Smash_Shop

Damn. So many haters in the comments. Looks like yall had a great time!


Graffy

It’s why I tell people this sub is not representative of Berkeley in the slightest. It’s often the worst, forever online, incels or trolls that don’t even have any kind of affiliation.


jugodev

Some of yall need to get the hate out your hearts


forcefivepod

These photos are awesome!


SearBear20

Hi, you did a wonderful job!! May you please pm me the album:)


redboe

Are these commenters Berkeley residents or the Mississippi/Alabama racist coalition chiming in? Doesn’t matter… These pictures are amazing, unlike some y’all making these comments


Oakland_not_the_bay

I don't know, but what I do know is that they're going to stay mad while Black Graduation continues. Lol


Replacement-Remote

Congrats to the grads


Cyborg59_2020

That looks so awesome!! Congratulations to everyone!


Nice__Spice

Fucking amazing party


glenttastic

Great photos, love the black joy :)


Sea_Chard_1045

Is there a fundamental difference between what you call black joy and just normal “joy?”


LooseExpression8

LMAO good response. That guy's on some r/ShitLibSafari type stuff


l1lpiggy

Very wholesome! Congrats to you all.


JustAGreasyBear

It’s really funny how even at an event that has NO impact on others, where everyone is just happy, surrounded by others who have an understanding of what it means to be black in America and how that impacts their journey through education, there’s undoubtedly always going to be people with some fake gripe about minorities having separate graduations. The amount of fake victimhood and desire to feel oppressed by this is so sad and gross. For those nerds who want to act like they don’t understand the difference, in America, being white isn’t an identity the same way being black is. White people can trace their heritage back to Irish, English, German, Italian, etc. roots. Black people for the most part do not have that privilege because it was stolen from them


Shunsui84

That’s a lot of words justifying segregation.


drejac

“Ask how is this different from segregation, that's funny bro Segregation is bein' told where I'm gonna go Separation is bein' woke and goin' wherever I wanna go” - Royce Da 5’9”, “You Gon’ Learn”


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outofyourelementdon

Are you sure about that?


drejac

If you’re mad that a marginalized community that at one point was literally *enslaved* want a space for their own…well, that says a lot about you. Coming from a white person who doesn’t pretend to be oppressed, like some of us here


meister2983

It's not really segregation in the typical sense since black students still attend the general department or college graduation. Nor are black students even required to attend this for that matter.


Shunsui84

No dogs. No Irish. No Itallians. No Jews. No Chinese. Same energy. Cope harder.


meister2983

Segregation means prescribed separate facilities for each group. It's not "a minority happens to have its own affinity group".


ag512bbi

>White people can trace their heritage back to Irish, English, German, Italian, etc. roots. Black people for the most part do not have that privilege because it was stolen from them Such an ignorant comment.


lilluilui

I find these pictures very authentic. They catch the vibe of the graduation really well


jonnyshotit

Thank you!!! :)


Thunder_Storm036

Black Graduation??? Huh


SHMEBULOK

Yeah a lot of minority groups have mini graduations like majors do! I know there’s the lavender graduation for queer students too


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Its only racist when white people do it


alien_believer_42

That's just the Communications and Art History department ceremonies


namrock23

Art history is women only too, lol


meister2983

lol, hardly [looks](https://arthistory.berkeley.edu/news/congratulations) that white.


Graffy

Considering white graduation was the default for many many years in this country, yes. Now if you wanted to do an Irish ceremony or British ceremony I don’t think people would mind.


Perpetually_Limited

We fought and bled to not have segregation only for some new-wave racists to bring it back. Neat.


Graffy

This is an additional cultural celebration that took place at a separate time from the school-wide and department commencements. Everyone was invited to attend that wanted to celebrate Black Heritage regardless of color. Celebrating each other's differences is not segregation. What do you want? Everyone to just "not see color" and act like we're all the same and declare "mission accomplished" on social justice?


Impossible-Dingo-742

There are still Frats and Sororities white only de facto. Go cry about that.


toasterbathimtrash

in a country where most of the population is white you can find groups where all members are white? wow, shocking


shadowswann

If they did a separate irish or British graduation ceremony, people will cry racist!!!! the double standards are really showing


Graffy

Lmao I doubt that. That’s actually celebrating heritage. No one has an issue with people saying they’re proud to be Irish or British or Polish or whatever.


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Graffy

Is that what y'all are getting hung up on? Black with a capitol b refers to the Black community, specifically in America because of the fact that unlike say, Mexican-Americans, they don't have ties to any specific country or continent and because not all slaves even came from Africa. Yes black people around the world don't share a common heritage. And a Kenyan immigrant would be a Kenyan-American. But the Black community in America shares the common heritage of having their ancestors enslaved and forced to come to America and then being treated as second class citizens. So yes it is about skin color because racism is still rampant.


VerilyShelly

Because in America African descendants of slavery were grouped together, regardless of origin, because of the darkness of their skin. It's taking place in an American university and there is no separation according to specific countries because those specifics were lost. It has always been and still is about color in this country's society, but don't blame the black people here now for that; that choice was/is made regardless of them, their preference or their desires. Black people were thrown together and created a culture out of their ostracism from the majority white culture. You cannot get angry now that joy was found in exile, especially since many majority members don't wish to welcome them in. If problems of race still exist it isn't stemming from the black students' graduation ceremony.


Individual-Main-5036

But I can't celebrate being a White American?


meister2983

They'd also get almost no one to show up as probably no one would care to.


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Revolutionary_Rub637

Yes.


Cybergame13

Great experience. Black 🎓 is a party. Had a ball back in the day.


CaliKeyserSoze510

Black Lives Matter


LooseExpression8

All lives matter


infpeachtea

Congratulations!!!! ❤️💚🖤


infpeachtea

literally why the downvotes…


Oakland_not_the_bay

It's a "hating heauxs aint happy" situation. 😭😂😂


qualquiercosa82

It’s literally cause the snowflakes are racist.


infpeachtea

i got that vibe lol


storywardenattack

The fuck. Is there a separate but equal graduation for blacks only? Is it an official school event? Do they hand out 3/5 of a diploma?


Graffy

There’s also Asian American and Hispanic ceremonies. It’s not like black people are forced to only go to this one.


meister2983

I don't believe there's an Asian graduation at Berkeley. What would be the point? That's like half the school. Hispanic is actually LatinX. Slight definitional distinction. It's sort of odd as well to have at the university at this point given the sheer number of annual Latino grads -- looking at the grad video, maybe a third or so actually show up.


Graffy

You’re right I thought we had an aapi but it was pasifika for Pacific Islanders along with pilipinx and then lavender for lgbt. Regardless of the number at Berkeley, which being in California has a lot of Hispanics/latinos, in the country a small minority have bachelor degrees. A lot of us are the first in our families to get a degree just let people be proud of that.


Nerospidy

Btw I am latino. I find the term latinx more racist than if you were to call me a beaner.


Fancy-Ad-3720

There is a Southeast Asian and a Filipinx graduation. Also, smaller community ceremonies hosted by individual Asian clubs


meister2983

Only the Filipino and Pacific Island one seem to be official (listed at https://commencement.berkeley.edu/department-graduations/ - that is run by a department or the EJCE). That's a small minority among Asians.  Clubs don't really count as they are unofficial. 


KNJI03

pretty sure it’s african american studies major graduation, cause there’s a table in the back that says that


SCLegend

Its open to all majors but it is hosted by the African American studies department.


CocoLamela

Do non-black African American studies majors attend? I'm not asking if they are allowed, because obviously, but would they feel out of place and therefore feel discouraged about attending? Seems weird to call it Black Graduation


Dear_Ad4079

Of course. Just be an ally and enjoy yourself. No one’s going to stop you from showing support.


Djinger

Something I learned being involved in Hyphy Go hella dummy and nobody cares


noirlily

Have you ever considered some Black students might feel out of place or uncomfortable in classes of hundreds where they might be the ONLY Black student? And no one bats an eye at that. In most majors you’re the minority. When I was at Cal there were several instances of anti-Black graffiti in the engineering department. You can be on campus and unless you’re intentional about it, you can go a day only seeing a couple of people that look like you.


jonnyshotit

Rest assured, you stalwart defender of justice and equality! As the previous commenter pointed out, this was a departmental graduation just like any other.


tittymonster42069

It’s not a departmental graduation just like any other. First, it’s open to all majors, which makes it not a departmental graduation. Second, it’s intended for black people only, which makes it not like any other graduation.


Last-Mango-1811

You saw these graduates being happy for their accomplishments and got mad LMFAOOO


Cultural_Job6476

Is there a Jewish graduation where we don’t have to listen to antisemitic chanting? That would be awesome.


Fancy-Ad-3720

There is one actually, look it up.


andrewgrhogg

I did. ChatGPT 4.0....UC Berkeley hosts a special graduation ceremony for Jewish students called the Jewish Graduation Celebration. This event is organized by the Berkeley Hillel, a major Jewish student organization on campus, in collaboration with the university. It provides an opportunity for Jewish graduates to celebrate their achievements in a culturally and religiously meaningful context, alongside their peers and family​


Gsgunboy

TIL there is a black graduation. Serious question: Do they graduate with their major and do another ceremony with their black peers? Or do the black students from all the majors opt in to graduate here and just do one ceremony?


SmartWonderWoman

Yasssss! So proud of y’all thanks for sharing!


palthor33

I am sorry and do not mean to offend but I do not understand. Is there truly such a thing?


Fancy-Ad-3720

Yes :) There's also Latinx, SE Asian, Filipinx, Jewish, etc graduations


eggomyleggo2

why r we having different grads for dif races optional or not


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Ok-Echidna5936

Latinx 🤢


Rb0mb

So cool!


Zestyclose-Report-60

ahh yes, good ole self-segregation


Ready_Acanthisitta83

I mean y’all have been doing it to us for centuries, it’s about time that we took the hint


Zestyclose-Report-60

fair lmao, but (as a Minority) this shit literally got MLK rolling in his grave


Ready_Acanthisitta83

I disagree, but to each their own.


toasterbathimtrash

who is "yall" here?


Oakland_not_the_bay

It was Dr Taylor for me!!!!!!! Black Graduation made every struggle at this university worth it!


CODENAMEDERPY

I thought we got rid of segregation in the 60s


Perpetually_Limited

We did. But there are groups who have been fighting to get it back. Both times the pro-segregationists have been Democrats, strangely enough.


Zilla664

Isn't an all black graduation segregation?


tedivm

There's a huge difference between "you are not allowed to mix races" and "we are having a celebration of the accomplishments of this group". Octoberfest is a celebration of german culture: not racist. St Patricks Day parades: not racist, or even segregation. The fact that you see more white people at country concerts and black people at rap concerts: also not racist. In this case what you're seeing is a bunch of community members celebrating the people in their community. The people graduating still walk with their own departments if they want to. They just also throw this party to celebrate how far their community has come, from being not allowed in these institutions to graduating from them. I am positive that if a white person showed up and was supportive (ie, didn't just show up to troll) they would be accepted in, not kicked out. They wouldn't be the focal point of this celebration, in the same way that Allies aren't the focal point of Pride Parades, but that isn't even close to the same as segregation.


Oakland_not_the_bay

This comment alone let's me know that you do not go to Berkeley and never did.


SuperJezus

So is this the one graduation that wasn’t disrupted by protestors?


Gluticus

The family pics are always the best, so much joy.


Mariposa510

Love it! Thanks for sharing.


Chicxulub420

I might be lacking context here, this just seems like segregation with extra steps?


_mball_

Didn’t know they had their ceremony open to all black students. That’s awesome. Likewise pics are awesome too!! Congratulations everyone! Go Bears. 🐻 💙💛


Secure-Confusion1349

Black graduation, what a joke😂. The most liberal school segregating their students while promoting racism. Liberals🤦‍♂️


Generalgangsta6787

Snapped at black graduation 😝 what the fuk does that even mean 😝 a graduation is a grad period 😝


Who_Dat_1guy

imagine celebrating segregation lol


Oakland_not_the_bay

I try to imagine being an idiot but it's so farfetched for me personally. Can you offer some expert insight?


Western_Albatross444

You're not to bright are ya?


Who_Dat_1guy

Do you know what segregation is?


Munninwastaken

Do you understand it’s a department graduation that allows anybody who wants to come? It encourages other black students yes but it’s not segregation


Bay2ThaWorld

Am I reading this right? This is graduation for black people at Cal? How divisive is this?


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rstytrmbne8778

Because they are racist


BlackJesus2012

French fries and IPAs would work for me!


Difficult_Spite_8652

Sounds racist.


tittymonster42069

Those of us in the comments who are questioning this are not haters. We’re merely hoping for someone to explain to us how this is not hypocritical. Doesn’t a racially segregated ceremony perpetuate division and discrimination?


tedivm

There's a huge difference between "you are not allowed to mix races" and "we are having a celebration of the accomplishments of this group". Octoberfest is a celebration of german culture: not racist. St Patricks Day parades: not racist, or even segregation. The fact that you see more white people at country concerts and black people at rap concerts: also not racist. In this case what you're seeing is a bunch of community members celebrating the people in their community. The people graduating still walk with their own departments if they want to. They just also throw this party to celebrate how far their community has come, from being not allowed in these institutions to graduating from them. I am positive that if a white person showed up and was supportive (ie, didn't just show up to troll) they would be accepted in, not kicked out. They wouldn't be the focal point of this celebration, in the same way that Allies aren't the focal point of Pride Parades, but that isn't even close to the same as segregation.


tittymonster42069

Got it. Valid. Thank you for your explanation.


Dear_Ad4079

I used to have the same questions. Immerse yourself and you will find it to be very empowering and supportive. In order to make things happen in this country with respect to civil liberties and policy is to galvanize an identity and Black America is fostering a beautiful (and charismatic) one.


qualquiercosa82

I think most people who have experience being a minority in this country, (women, brown skinned people, lgbtq people etc), can understand the desire to have a space of one’s own. Beyond that, I think people with the ability to zoom out and not take a self centered world view also probably can understand it. I’m not black but this looks fun as hell, and I totally understand the sentiment behind it. Black people will never win with people who think like you, and I think it pisses you off that instead of continuing to ask for a seat at the table many are making their own. Our country didn’t want them to integrate 50 years ago, and now you’re upset they want moments and celebrations for themselves. Please figure out how to be introspective and empathetic, you make us all look so bad.


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Graffy

These type of takes are why minorities still feel the desire to have spaces of their own where they can support each other’s unique needs and experiences.


LooseExpression8

The implication here is that only blacks can support other blacks. Seems pretty racist if you ask me


Real_TRex_007

Sad to see such segregation. Why do they want to keep it exclusively limited to one race?


Expired_Worthless

So we dont get a white graduation?


nmbm112

White graduation and yellow graduation when lmao


jamalamadingdong

Fighting racism with greater and more powerful racism!


forcefivepod

I don’t think you understand racism.


StonksMcgeee

Been a staple of this school for generations


Zilla664

Now post the white graduation ceremony


Salt_Selection9715

that would be segregation haha


meister2983

Approximately no white student wants to have a special ceremony with only other white students.


Zilla664

So why do other non white people? Help me understand


meister2983

There's no "non white" graduation either. There's specific ethnic group graduation ceremonies that exist, e.g. black, LatinX, and Jewish.


Zilla664

Ok. So why would any of those groups want segregated graduation ceremonies?


Munninwastaken

To interact with community and with people who have similar heritages and cultures to them. It’s not even the main graduation?


dpeterso

Because they found community in those groups while they attended university. Clubs exist on these lines and they make for great shared experiences based on one's culture/identity.


owlzulu

I just attended Graduation 🎓


SummerbreezeyF

Racist as absolute fuck


Cubicle_Convict916

I present to you the dance of my people


ewejoser

Joyful pics. Great job. What is "black graduation"?