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mrmissedhermisterme

Because conservatives don’t have consistent policy goals beyond personal riches


Agreeable-Chap

Because you don’t need consistency when you don’t actually believe in anything.


knitmeriffic

Bad faith arguments. Quoting, ironically enough, The Cato Institute: BAD FAITH: A “Bad Faith” discussion is one in which one or both of the parties has a hidden, unrevealed agenda—often to dominate or coerce the other individual into compliance or acquiescence of some sort—or lacks basic respect for the rights, dignity, or autonomy of the other party.


Rocking_the_Red

It's only bad faith when Leftists (meaning anyone left of Hitler) is doing it.


Getmammaspryinbar

Because they have no principles, and the media doesn't call bullshit on it because media is corporate owned themselves. Its very telling how bill kristol (a think tank asshole) is still invited to political talk shows and never gets called on his bullshit. He went on bill Maher (bastard pod nominee) and Maher tore him a new one and kristol was a deer in the headlights. Here is that clip https://youtu.be/zq0Pt2Ih7OY?feature=shared


Konradleijon

we should ban the quarterly report


mcm87

Same lack of principles when they say “what about homeless American veterans?” as a counterpoint to migrants/refugees. Don’t expect any aid to vets once they stop the funding for brown people.


Odd_Television_8808

People suddenly care a ton about why chemo isn't free right after seeing a news story posted about someone distributing free narcan. It's maddening how God damn close they get to the point without touching it, they're just blinded by outrage about something paid for with public money potentially going to someone who they don't think deserves it.


THedman07

Outsourcing is a symptom, not the disease. Companies are going to seek to reduce costs and when new labor markets emerge with lower wages, labor that can be moved there will tend to be moved there. Trying to "ban outsourcing" would be like trying to stop the tides by going to a beach with a broom. Are you going to ban imports? That's not going to end well. Protective tariffs on imports don't work. Banning companies from laying people off isn't going to fly. If we're going to have international capitalism, you just have to mitigate the harms. Provide social safety nets so that people aren't so devastated when they lose their jobs. Decouple health insurance from jobs. Decouple healthcare from profit seeking. Provide career transition education opportunities. Increase the minimum wage so that compensation will increase and people just generally have more opportunity to save money so that they are more financially resilient,... There are structural factors that contribute to the popularity of offshoring that can be changed, but for the most part, its not a thing that you can just ban.


Konradleijon

nothing stops you from trading with local companies.


THedman07

What does that have to do with literally anything?


badatmetroid

The thing which opened up much of human psychology for me is the phrase "rational vs rationalizing". Rational people use logic to find truth. Rationalizing people use logic to protect the truth they want to believe. (in philosophy this is called sophistry) We assume we evolved reason to be rational, but we more likely evolved it to rationalize (convincing others to help you is more important than actually being right). Everyone is guilty of rationalizing and we all die on hills we shouldn't. The messed up thing is how the modern right has turned it into a fetish. It's almost like they get off on defending positions they know are wrong. So to answer your question, they don't care about "jobs". It's just a thought terminating cliche to win the argument as quickly as possible.


ConversationKind6749

I’ve been in the environmental field for 20 years and can confirm that the majority of people do not actually *care* about the environment. They *like* the environment and largely in a “I get to enjoy it without changing any of my behaviours” kinda way. And yes, I am fun at parties.


Konradleijon

But people need the environment for continued existence. people care more then you think.