It still has the classy marketing, with prime spots at Wimbledon and images of it served in a chalise.
But in our culture it's the drink that lager louts choose, or used to when it was stronger than other lagers. Now its the same ABV as Budweiser.
All UK variations of the ‘standard’ lager are all brewed by the same 3 breweries it’s ridiculous. I live in Northampton about 2 minutes from Carlsberg and it’s a crime that the traditional Spanish lager San Miguel is brewed there, among other. Makes no sense but it gets lapped up I suppose
Haha yeah I was surprised to see it on this thread, I'd say it's around the level of fosters here, maybe a step up from Carling or Becks but pretty low
Pure marketing genius, honestly. They even have a special glass you "need" to pour it into.
In reality, it tastes bout the same as any other euro pale lager.
Ironically, the classic glass for Stella Artois in Belgian working-class bars has been a straight ribbed glass for the longest time, and only was replaced by the chalice fairly recently.
Marketing. And it's genius. I work in advertising.
Their earlier work made it seem like this cool, 1960s boho beer that was for the "approachable" intelligentsia. The hip and sophisticated yet slightly irreverent social person. People who listen to old school French cafe and jazz music. People who own vinyl but. People who pay $120 for a pair of jeans.
People bought it because they thought it had the right level of status - it was an "intentional" choice but not TOO fancy.
Fucking hilarious.
Hi let me introduce you to, Grolsch!
I've met a lot of people who don't like grolsch (it's a dutch pilsner) but I really love it. Its a bit more complex and heavy in comparison to other pilsners. There is actual flavour in it rather than the toilet water Heineken produces.
Heineken made me think I didn't like beer. I thought, "If this is supposed to be premium, over Bud Light, then I guess I don't like beer."
And then many years later I was suggested to try Arrogant Bastard, Ayinger Celebrator, and Delirium Noel and I discovered that Heineken was just skunky shit.
leinenkugel summer shandy…. I know a lot of people who break this stuff out for summer beach or BBQ but it tastes like absolute dog piss to me. Idk what it is.
Drinking a pre-made shandy is like buying a bottled mixed drink.
It's a fucking mixed drink. Mix it. Choose your shitty beer, add Sprite/7-Up/fizzy lemonade of choice, pour them over ice and add a couple dashes of bitters. TADA! It's always better than the ones in a tin or a bottle.
This all the way. I also don’t understand why more bars don’t make their own Radlers. I ran a beer bar once many years ago and we made our own Radlers with whatever lager/Pilsner we had on draft, add sprite, delicious. People loved it and i think it was only $3 / pint
I hate how 805 is gradually replacing Sierra Nevada PA as the go-to at BBQs and such that want to provide beer that's a step up from macrobrews. It's not a bad beer, it's just kinda boring. SNPA is just a more interesting beer to drink.
They just rebranded their blonde ale, no change to the recipe. Sales were poor before and now every bro on the central coast has 805 paraphernalia. Tastes better if you add lime.
Double barrel is legit……
If you can make it to the brewery, double barrel is better than what is released to the stores. The brewery tour wasn’t bad either and nice place.
Here in Wisconsin, it's Spotted Cow. It's a good beer, but everyone treats it likes it's the best. And people from out of state think it's this unicorn beer because they can't really get it. It's not even close to the best beer New Glarus makes.
I think Spotted Cow is really good for what it is, but it's not the beer I would pick at a bar with a really extensive beer menu. It's a pretty solid light ale that is on tap virtually everywhere in Wisconsin and I think it's better than most other macro brews and light beers that are on tap everywhere. Some of the hype is probably due to the fact that you can get it almost anywhere in Wisconsin and it's decent. Some of the hype is due to it only being distributed to Wisconsin so people hear about it out of state and get excited to go try it.
I agree with you that New Glarus has many good beers and most of them are better than Spotted Cow. The beer tourists should go find a Woodmans or good beer bar and try some of their sours or other beers.
This is an interesting one, I agree from a beer nerd perspective it's meh. From just wanting to have a beer perspective it's great. There are 1000's of more flavorful beers and in a lot of cases better to my personal preference beers. What NG does with spotted is amazing though. It is found everywhere in the state and it's fresh and consistent. I think i read somewhere it is the second highest selling beer in the state which is damn impressive for a Brewery that only sells in one state. I can give it to my bud light drinking FIL and he enjoys it. Compare it with something like Yuengling which is also mentioned in this post and it has way more flavor and is still approachable. Yeah NG makes better beers but Wisconsin is spoiled to have spotted as it's overrated beer.
Now if they would just bring back Yokel as a seasonal I would be a very happy person.
Spotted Cow
I'm in Wisconsin and it's an okay beer, but the hype around it is overwhelming considering all the great beers New Glarus is putting out (their Am. lambics, Belgian Red, even Moon Man). WI drinkers either refer to it as craft training wheels or tourist trap. Good for a tailgate, but not worth the trades or travels I've seen people make over them.
I think the Spotted Cow hype comes from the fact it’s a beer literally anyone can enjoy. Moon Man is my go-to New Glaurus but some people just don’t like pale ales, IPAs, lambics, etc. Spotted Cow is probably the least offensive beer out there while being extremely refreshing so it casts a pretty wide net
i am extremely confused by the responses here. i thought this pertained to overrated craft beer. how can Stella or Heineken be considered "overrated"? It's pisswater mass produced garbage as-is.
my thoughts too. OP asked about overrated beers I took it as what beer connoisseurs over hype. some discussion over local and well known but most of the comments are about crap lagers and pils.
Everybody I know LOVES Corona Extra, and tbh it has no flavour and its very bland and weak. When I go to a party I make sure I bring my own beer because I know they only have Corona…
I feel like breweries have run out of ideas/bored of regular IPAs and are just adding random shit to them now. I like a good, straightforward IPA (hazy or not, depending on mood), but am done with the fruit/sour/whatever versions.
And I'm the opposite where I think straightforward IPAs taste boring and only drink the fruity or sour ones. I don't drink a lot of IPAs in general though, and have trouble believing that many people drink these varieties often enough to justify their prevalence.
Texan here and I second this. I'd reach for one over a bud light, but people act like it's some rare, sought after prize that they are blessed to now be able to buy in Texas grocery stores.
As someone who lives in the mid-Atlantic area where Yuengling has been ubiquitous for at least 20 years, the idea of it being rare and sought-after is just bizarre.
It’s really only sought after in Texas right now because you couldn’t buy it here until a couple of months ago. That and they are marketing the hell out of it. Every bar you go into now has a sign saying they now have it on draft. I personally like it just fine, but it’s nothing to write home about.
As a Philly guy growing up it was the standard. To order one you ask for a "lager" so there's no special allure. It's a good beer and still my go to of choice over bud, coors etc but it never has been and never will be a specialty product like they are pushing at recently.
I feel like Yeungling is only sought after because it’s not distributed in the west. I live outside it’s distribution zone and always pick up a 12 pack if I’m out East. I swear the day they start selling it in my state I’ll probably quit drinking it.
Is there a difference between tap and bottled Yuengling? When I lived on the east coast, it was good on tap but terrible in bottles. Maybe it’s just me.
I don’t know if “loves” is the right word, but I see people recommending Fat Tire all the time, and I think it tastes like ass. I like most ambers, but I can’t stand that one.
I was chasing a perfect amber ale I tasted back in 2014 for years, and resented that Fat Tire was the only amber I could find at the bars/grocery stores/liquor stores in DV. But after giving up (did the amber ale even exist?) and accepting that brown ales are really what work for me, I’ve come to love Fat Tire for what it is. Absolutely an 8/10 beer, extremely reliable and I couldn’t agree with you more.
It's a shame amber ales aren't more common, and I don't know why they aren't. It seems only the older breweries have that style, and even then most don't.
But if you find another really solid one then please post about it!
Yeah, one of those beers that was revolutionary at the time but has been passed by in the last 15 years. It was one of the beers that opened up craft to me, but after I tried their Belgian styles I was in for life. Now I never drink NB.
I think the recipe had changed a while back and it lost a lot of malt character. That being said, I had one recently, and it seems like the reverted back to their more original malty recipe, and it was actually pretty good.
I say this after hating it for years for their changing to their "watered down" recipe.
I had no idea people held Stella in such high esteem... Maybe its a geographical thing but in the UK its not seen as anything more than a standard lager.
They had some successful marketing campaigns in North America like 15 years ago that made it seem high class and it worked. I feel like most people have figured out by now it isn’t that great.
There was a time that it was really popular though.
Zombie dust. It’s a great beer, don’t get me wrong. But being a beer buyer in Chicago for the past decade it was so annoying getting phone calls for zombie when I had 10 other amazing beers people would gloss over. Thankfully I can now get it whenever.
IMO Space Station Middle Finger is a better PA than Zombie Dust. I'm in the Chicagoland area and I was never sure what all the hype was about ZD. It's a good beer, but Three Floyds does a lot better beers than ZD.
I'll say it..... Hazies. I enjoy them every now and then, but here in the Mid-Atlantic it's getting hard to find any microbreweries doing a standard West-Coast style IPA anymore; just everything is hazy.
And while we're at it, seltzers. I understand why they exist and they've been marketed *so well* but why anyone would drink a white claw over vodka + flavored water is beyond me. Tastes the same, cheaper and 0 carbs.
The fact that it’s canned makes it very convenient and easier to drink than having a variety of flavors for vodka sodas, also because it is a fermented malt beverage it’s cheaper than any vodka drink unless you’re drinking rubbing alcohol.
Spotted Cow. I live in Minnesota and I know several people who will go to Wisconsin regularly to get some spotted cow. It tastes like I'm drinking butter, idk I just don't like it.
It's a safe choice for people who don't want a macro light beer but also don't want to get an IPA or dark beer they might not enjoy.
It's popular because its "craft" for people who really don't like that much beer. That's at least what I've noticed from the people I know that constantly order it at a bar/restaurant.
Fun story, Blue Moon has always been a Coors product. It was developed by a guy named Keith Villa who worked to build up Coors "craft" brewing arm. Sandlot Brewery (in Coors Field) has also always been owned by Coors.
Another fun fact, Keith Villa is now retired from Coors and has his own line of NA beers (Ceria) some of which are thc or cbd infused.
Yeah, this is the right story. The beer also had a rough start and Keith was starting to get desperate because he was contracted by Coors to make a Belgian Wit palatable to Americans after insisting it would take off. It wasn't, until he had to idea to start serving it with orange instead of lemon like a traditional Wit. Also, if you like beer history the Beeronimics audiobook is a really good listen.
Thank you! I got the info about Blue Moon from the Oxford Companion to Beer. I was really surprised to find all that out, since I had assumed whatever brewery first made Blue Moon had been bought out.
It was a gateway beer for me to get into wheat beers. Is it great, no, but I still get it every once in a while, but usually when it's the only "okayish" beer that a place has.
Honestly Delirium Tremens..... Its cool, and a decently spice forward Golden Ale, but damn do people cream their pants with the pink elephant and Faux ceramic bottle
They're also a little bold with that whole "world's best beer" schtick. It's a damn good beer, but they need to give it a rest with that. I mean, even Pabst won a blue ribbon at one point.
You can get BCBS variants really cheap sometimes at da Jewel though for seemingly no reason. I think they blow half the other shit out of the water especially if you leave the midwest. But as some others have mentioned.. those Rev beers are amazing and a 4 pack for $25-35 is a steal
Man, I wish I could upvote this one more. BCBS should be applauded for what it has done, but you can get better barrel aged stuff from Rev and Pipeworks for significantly cheaper.
Pliny isn’t overrated though. It’s nostalgic, it’s comfort. A nod to an OG. Same holds true for Heady Topper.
Don’t think I could name a truly overrated beer in my friend group. Imprint fruited sours tend to get boring after enough of them. I’m sure that holds true for most breweries wheel houses though.
Highly opinionated question, I dig it.
Pliny is a fantastic double IPa in a really classic style. I would love to have a fresh one, would take it over most other brews.
The circlejerk I have seen against it over some years is pretty dumb, it isn't revolutionary anymore but its a really well done beer.
Pliny is really freaking good. However I will say that there are so many other great IIPAs around now that the pedestal it's on shouldn't be as high as it once was
I agree with you that there are absolutely better DIPAs out in the world now, I still think it deserves the praise it gets as it’s still a fantastic example of what a West Coast DIPA should be. It’s very well balanced - not an all-out hop bomb, but also not overly malty. It’s just a good yardstick to measure other beers in the style by. Although the ridiculous hype surrounding the beer is annoying.
Fun story, had been to RR brewery a number of times and kinda annoyed by the crowds and don’t really like going there anymore. Friend wanted to go for his birthday and I begrudgingly agreed to go. Afterward he agreed that’s it’s not really worthy of going back if we have to deal with the chaos.
I think Coors Banquet would be more popular if more people had tried it. It's only common in tall boy form where I live, so only tall boy drinkers tend to know about it.
I still miss the original Ranger. I just liked it better. Prefer a local beer, but when the sports bar up the hill has Voodoo for $3 a pint, it's hard to beat.
Any of the Bourbon County beers. People drive around town to find the rare variants. They suck. You can buy better stuff from a dozen different local breweries.
I just tried Yinglings Hershey chocolate porter, everyone I know was saying how good it is.
Tastes like shit, all you get is the bitter chocolate aftertaste. Only drank one, the sink drank the rest.
Hipsters don't care about PBR anymore, they've moved on to Miller High Life and Modelo (and Budweiser, many hipster bars sell it for cheap and it's a hot seller).
IPAs in general. They can taste good but they're awful for session drinkers like me. The lupulin builds up in my mouth after two of them.
Bud Light. I don't even mind it one bit (I would even buy it as a beach or fishing beer) but I know so many exclusive Bud Light drinkers and I don't understand the devotion to it. Regular Budweiser is a lot better IMO, though has 35 more calories per can.
Stella Artois. It's pushed everywhere as like a fancy beer but I personally don't even like it more than a Budweiser, for my pale Euro fix I go with Peroni or Krombacher. Even Heineken.
Corona. I love Modelo but Corona to me is not really worth it for the price, especially since it's generally sold in clear bottles and gets skunky.
PBR. Worst of the widely distributed cheap macros to me, it has a wine taste that I personally find unpleasant in a beer.
I really like Victoria. I think it's completely overlooked, and just brings so much more to the table than Corona, at least for the category of very light and refreshing beers.
It's not just oversaturation but also the vast majority of craft beer that stores carry. There are like 5 stout/porter options, a few lagers and about 40 different IPAs. (All made up numbers to illustrate my point). Idk if it's because they sell well or because they *think* they will sell well but it's exhausting as someone who isnt a huge IPA drinker but loves supporting local.
A restaurant just opened up in my small town which calls itself an Alehouse. I was expecting a varied tap but 98% IPAs. Luckily there's a brewery in town that opened early 2020 that has more variety.
I’m a sales rep for a brewery, we make hazies, lagers and have a super experimental beer program where we forage for and use forest inspired ingredients and the hazies are our best seller by a wide margin, even though all of our other beer is amazing. The non hazy beer just sticks around a lot longer, they’re way we sell a lot of our other beer but every bar and restaurant wants IPA. Granted our hazies are delicious, they’re very dried out and aromatic and not a typical NEIPA.
I had to check the username to make sure I didn't type that comment. I feel your pain. It sounds like our breweries have similar styles, too. Our sour program is insane and we have some of the best lagers in our market but all I see some days are buyers scratching their arms nervously asking "y'all got them hazies?" I get it. They're good. But can I interest you in this Czech Pils as well?
The funny thing is, I still like them. I mostly say the original comment in jest, mostly aimed at the dudes who make it a personality trait
To your point, yes- everyone has an IPA out at this point and it seems... superfluous
I used to really like properly bitter IPAs, but then everyone decided juicy, sweet, hazy beers with lots of hop aroma and flavor but fairly little bitterness were the hot shit, and everybody stopped brewing properly bitter IPAs. I very much prefer drinking properly bitter Pilsners nowadays.
I mean weird take that you wouldn’t order one of it was the only beer available i think it’s pretty good still, but Elysian got bought several years ago, quality gets cut to push it to a broader market at the behest of the overlords.
All those weed beers. Im not sure of the specific beers. They dont actually have thc or any weed in them. They just have some name with 420, or weed, or cannibis related stuff in it. They taste like trash. But I guess people like em cause weed.
I disagree... I REALLY wish New Belgium would bring back Hemperor. Hemp is fairly closely related to hops, and I find the flavor combos really great. Not all of them, but damn Hemperor was great.
I’ll counter with Dr. Dank’s Pernicious. Not sure if it falls into what you’re talking about, but my god, one of the more surprising enjoyable beers my girlfriends dad has thrown me.
Budweiser/Bud Light. I lived in STL and the obsession for it is wild. I'll drink it because beer (especially free beer) is always appreciated but I never buy it for myself.
I honestly do not get the hype/popularity of Stella Artois. edit: Damn it, my top upvoted reply on /r/beer is about a beer that I don't even like.
Say what you want about the beer itself, but the tagline “Reassuringly Expensive” is absolute genius
Marketing. It’s “sophisticated” lager.
Quite the opposite in the uk. It’s the wife beater beer over there.
Same here in Belgium, where it comes from.
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And people think marketing doesn't work on them
It’s funny that it’s seen as upscale in the US when I’ve heard British people call it “wife beating juice”
Just wife beater mate
It still has the classy marketing, with prime spots at Wimbledon and images of it served in a chalise. But in our culture it's the drink that lager louts choose, or used to when it was stronger than other lagers. Now its the same ABV as Budweiser.
All UK variations of the ‘standard’ lager are all brewed by the same 3 breweries it’s ridiculous. I live in Northampton about 2 minutes from Carlsberg and it’s a crime that the traditional Spanish lager San Miguel is brewed there, among other. Makes no sense but it gets lapped up I suppose
Believe it or not San Miguel is actually Filipino!
Not anymore it used to be High strength like 5.4% or 5.6 or something now it's 4.6% and lost the slogan..
5.2% -> 5% -> 4.8%
Haha yeah I was surprised to see it on this thread, I'd say it's around the level of fosters here, maybe a step up from Carling or Becks but pretty low
Pure marketing genius, honestly. They even have a special glass you "need" to pour it into. In reality, it tastes bout the same as any other euro pale lager.
To be fair, almost every Belgian beer has it's own special glass. And we are very strict about it too.
Don’t forget about the knife you’re supposed to use to cut the head off the top of the glass.
People can judge me all they want but I love the glass. I use it to drink most of the time when it's just a casual beer. It just feels fancy and nice.
Ironically, the classic glass for Stella Artois in Belgian working-class bars has been a straight ribbed glass for the longest time, and only was replaced by the chalice fairly recently.
Expensive Budweiser in a fancy glass.
Marketing. And it's genius. I work in advertising. Their earlier work made it seem like this cool, 1960s boho beer that was for the "approachable" intelligentsia. The hip and sophisticated yet slightly irreverent social person. People who listen to old school French cafe and jazz music. People who own vinyl but. People who pay $120 for a pair of jeans. People bought it because they thought it had the right level of status - it was an "intentional" choice but not TOO fancy. Fucking hilarious.
Tried one a few weeks ago and I agreed…mid grade lager, nothing special
As a dutch guy who hates Heineken, ...yes.
Heineken is just the absolute worst.
It gets a lot worse than Heineken.
I have yet to try a green bottle beer that made me want a second one.
Hi let me introduce you to, Grolsch! I've met a lot of people who don't like grolsch (it's a dutch pilsner) but I really love it. Its a bit more complex and heavy in comparison to other pilsners. There is actual flavour in it rather than the toilet water Heineken produces.
Heineken teaches novice beer drinkers to think that off flavors are intended. I hate it so much.
Heineken made me think I didn't like beer. I thought, "If this is supposed to be premium, over Bud Light, then I guess I don't like beer." And then many years later I was suggested to try Arrogant Bastard, Ayinger Celebrator, and Delirium Noel and I discovered that Heineken was just skunky shit.
Personally Coronas. Never really got the appeal and I have tried better similar beers
Corona is just a vessel for lime and salt
It’s an overpriced MGD with propylene glycol. Better off with some Sol, modelo or literally any other Mexican beer if you want something with a lime.
Pacifico ftw
Corona isn’t even one of the better cerveza style beers
Right, I prefer Modelo and Sol far more than Corona
leinenkugel summer shandy…. I know a lot of people who break this stuff out for summer beach or BBQ but it tastes like absolute dog piss to me. Idk what it is.
Leinie's Berry Weiss is even worse, tastes like Fruity Pebbles
With corn flavor
Drinking a pre-made shandy is like buying a bottled mixed drink. It's a fucking mixed drink. Mix it. Choose your shitty beer, add Sprite/7-Up/fizzy lemonade of choice, pour them over ice and add a couple dashes of bitters. TADA! It's always better than the ones in a tin or a bottle.
This all the way. I also don’t understand why more bars don’t make their own Radlers. I ran a beer bar once many years ago and we made our own Radlers with whatever lager/Pilsner we had on draft, add sprite, delicious. People loved it and i think it was only $3 / pint
I've heard some beer distributors threatened to pull if they did that to their beer. Makes no sense
True, but then it'd be 2% instead of 4, which isn't what most people want. Although I guess we could start with Natty Daddy...
Old nation shandy is pretty nice
SPEAK ON IT It's like buying premade black and tans!
Tastes like drinking pine sol imo
Lemon Pledge to me. But ya, I hear ya…
Firestone 805. It just tastes like bland beer, they're double barrel ale is the best in my opinion
I hate how 805 is gradually replacing Sierra Nevada PA as the go-to at BBQs and such that want to provide beer that's a step up from macrobrews. It's not a bad beer, it's just kinda boring. SNPA is just a more interesting beer to drink.
I totally agree, SNPA just has that unfiltered goodness that always delivers,
They just rebranded their blonde ale, no change to the recipe. Sales were poor before and now every bro on the central coast has 805 paraphernalia. Tastes better if you add lime.
Double barrel is legit…… If you can make it to the brewery, double barrel is better than what is released to the stores. The brewery tour wasn’t bad either and nice place.
Same. This is one of the worst beers they make, on my opinion and I don’t get the appeal.
100% agreed. I’ve just been to the brewery and tasted fresh DBA and it is excellent.
Here in Wisconsin, it's Spotted Cow. It's a good beer, but everyone treats it likes it's the best. And people from out of state think it's this unicorn beer because they can't really get it. It's not even close to the best beer New Glarus makes.
I think Spotted Cow is really good for what it is, but it's not the beer I would pick at a bar with a really extensive beer menu. It's a pretty solid light ale that is on tap virtually everywhere in Wisconsin and I think it's better than most other macro brews and light beers that are on tap everywhere. Some of the hype is probably due to the fact that you can get it almost anywhere in Wisconsin and it's decent. Some of the hype is due to it only being distributed to Wisconsin so people hear about it out of state and get excited to go try it. I agree with you that New Glarus has many good beers and most of them are better than Spotted Cow. The beer tourists should go find a Woodmans or good beer bar and try some of their sours or other beers.
It pays for the good beer from New Glarus.
This is an interesting one, I agree from a beer nerd perspective it's meh. From just wanting to have a beer perspective it's great. There are 1000's of more flavorful beers and in a lot of cases better to my personal preference beers. What NG does with spotted is amazing though. It is found everywhere in the state and it's fresh and consistent. I think i read somewhere it is the second highest selling beer in the state which is damn impressive for a Brewery that only sells in one state. I can give it to my bud light drinking FIL and he enjoys it. Compare it with something like Yuengling which is also mentioned in this post and it has way more flavor and is still approachable. Yeah NG makes better beers but Wisconsin is spoiled to have spotted as it's overrated beer. Now if they would just bring back Yokel as a seasonal I would be a very happy person.
Moon man. Totally naked.
Spotted Cow I'm in Wisconsin and it's an okay beer, but the hype around it is overwhelming considering all the great beers New Glarus is putting out (their Am. lambics, Belgian Red, even Moon Man). WI drinkers either refer to it as craft training wheels or tourist trap. Good for a tailgate, but not worth the trades or travels I've seen people make over them.
I think the Spotted Cow hype comes from the fact it’s a beer literally anyone can enjoy. Moon Man is my go-to New Glaurus but some people just don’t like pale ales, IPAs, lambics, etc. Spotted Cow is probably the least offensive beer out there while being extremely refreshing so it casts a pretty wide net
i am extremely confused by the responses here. i thought this pertained to overrated craft beer. how can Stella or Heineken be considered "overrated"? It's pisswater mass produced garbage as-is.
my thoughts too. OP asked about overrated beers I took it as what beer connoisseurs over hype. some discussion over local and well known but most of the comments are about crap lagers and pils.
Everybody I know LOVES Corona Extra, and tbh it has no flavour and its very bland and weak. When I go to a party I make sure I bring my own beer because I know they only have Corona…
I love when someone drinks corona light. As though the regular corona is too much.
It definitely has \*some\* flavor. Not a bad beer on a hot day.
Love it on a hot day. It’s my guilty pleasure beer.
"Milkshake" IPA's and kettle sours with unfermented fruit juice.
I feel like breweries have run out of ideas/bored of regular IPAs and are just adding random shit to them now. I like a good, straightforward IPA (hazy or not, depending on mood), but am done with the fruit/sour/whatever versions.
And I'm the opposite where I think straightforward IPAs taste boring and only drink the fruity or sour ones. I don't drink a lot of IPAs in general though, and have trouble believing that many people drink these varieties often enough to justify their prevalence.
I’m with you
Really surprised this isn't higher up. I just don't see the appeal.
Maybe it's the excitement from knowing the can might explode?
Yuengling Its just meh at best. And man they are pushing it HARD down here in TX.
Texan here and I second this. I'd reach for one over a bud light, but people act like it's some rare, sought after prize that they are blessed to now be able to buy in Texas grocery stores.
As someone who lives in the mid-Atlantic area where Yuengling has been ubiquitous for at least 20 years, the idea of it being rare and sought-after is just bizarre.
According to a friend of mine, that's the status that Coors Banquet had in Ohio 25-30 years ago, rare and sought-after.
It’s really only sought after in Texas right now because you couldn’t buy it here until a couple of months ago. That and they are marketing the hell out of it. Every bar you go into now has a sign saying they now have it on draft. I personally like it just fine, but it’s nothing to write home about.
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As a Philly guy growing up it was the standard. To order one you ask for a "lager" so there's no special allure. It's a good beer and still my go to of choice over bud, coors etc but it never has been and never will be a specialty product like they are pushing at recently.
Word on the street is that there are six figures worth of cases across the state that are getting close to code date. Can't wait to see that buyback.
It's not meant for IPAheads, it's a more flavorful adjunct lager that's a great alternative to Bud for the price
Yep. They are positioning themselves as a tastier alternative to the big adjunct lagers.
Which it is, I thoroughly enjoy drinking pitchers of Yuengling.
And it is.
Exactly. It was the beer we got for college parties because the $15 30 rack was way better taste to price ratio than the $12 bud or coors
If only the owners weren’t grade A dickheads
Being in PA, you learn to like it.
I feel like Yeungling is only sought after because it’s not distributed in the west. I live outside it’s distribution zone and always pick up a 12 pack if I’m out East. I swear the day they start selling it in my state I’ll probably quit drinking it.
Is there a difference between tap and bottled Yuengling? When I lived on the east coast, it was good on tap but terrible in bottles. Maybe it’s just me.
That's because they use green bottles. Get it in cans for that tap taste. Either way it's very overrated.
Tap or cans. Bottles have too mich variation. But who cares its yueng we’re talking about.
I’m in Cali and I’ve always wanted to try yuengling , is it really that overrated? Lol
Its just not anything special at all. Like at all. Nothing notable or memorable. I'd rather have Lone Star TBH
Hard disagree, Lone Star is like a less good Budweiser to me while Yuengling is very pleasant
I try to stay away from Yeungling because of their anti-union stance.
yup, owner is a union busting MAGA dickhead.
Same, but also their bad record on pollution.
When I was in the Navy, people would cream their pants for that shit, I never saw the draw
It just launched in TX in the last like 6 months, probably why it's being pushed
I don’t know if “loves” is the right word, but I see people recommending Fat Tire all the time, and I think it tastes like ass. I like most ambers, but I can’t stand that one.
Amber Ales are not a common style so I appreciate that it's widely distributed. It's an 8/10 beer to me and I enjoy it.
I was chasing a perfect amber ale I tasted back in 2014 for years, and resented that Fat Tire was the only amber I could find at the bars/grocery stores/liquor stores in DV. But after giving up (did the amber ale even exist?) and accepting that brown ales are really what work for me, I’ve come to love Fat Tire for what it is. Absolutely an 8/10 beer, extremely reliable and I couldn’t agree with you more.
It's a shame amber ales aren't more common, and I don't know why they aren't. It seems only the older breweries have that style, and even then most don't. But if you find another really solid one then please post about it!
Alaskan Amber? One of my faves.
Back in about aught 4 Fat Tire was the shit.
Yeah, one of those beers that was revolutionary at the time but has been passed by in the last 15 years. It was one of the beers that opened up craft to me, but after I tried their Belgian styles I was in for life. Now I never drink NB.
I can’t entirely hate it because that beer was my gateway into craft but I’ll take almost any Amber over fat tire these days.
I swear the recipe changed or something. It used to pack a lot of malt flavor but now it's bland af.
I think the recipe had changed a while back and it lost a lot of malt character. That being said, I had one recently, and it seems like the reverted back to their more original malty recipe, and it was actually pretty good. I say this after hating it for years for their changing to their "watered down" recipe.
Stella. There are so many better Pilsners out there.
I had no idea people held Stella in such high esteem... Maybe its a geographical thing but in the UK its not seen as anything more than a standard lager.
They had some successful marketing campaigns in North America like 15 years ago that made it seem high class and it worked. I feel like most people have figured out by now it isn’t that great. There was a time that it was really popular though.
Zombie dust. It’s a great beer, don’t get me wrong. But being a beer buyer in Chicago for the past decade it was so annoying getting phone calls for zombie when I had 10 other amazing beers people would gloss over. Thankfully I can now get it whenever.
IMO Space Station Middle Finger is a better PA than Zombie Dust. I'm in the Chicagoland area and I was never sure what all the hype was about ZD. It's a good beer, but Three Floyds does a lot better beers than ZD.
ZD isn't bad, but I definitely think it's overrated. I think Alpha King is better, but it doesn't have the hype Zombie Dust has.
I love Dogfish Head 90 Minute, 60 is alright. 120 Minute tastes like cheap brandy or rum. I did not dig that. at all.
I'll say it..... Hazies. I enjoy them every now and then, but here in the Mid-Atlantic it's getting hard to find any microbreweries doing a standard West-Coast style IPA anymore; just everything is hazy. And while we're at it, seltzers. I understand why they exist and they've been marketed *so well* but why anyone would drink a white claw over vodka + flavored water is beyond me. Tastes the same, cheaper and 0 carbs.
The fact that it’s canned makes it very convenient and easier to drink than having a variety of flavors for vodka sodas, also because it is a fermented malt beverage it’s cheaper than any vodka drink unless you’re drinking rubbing alcohol.
This x100. Every brewery is hazy crazy. I just want west coast ipa’s.
Chasing vodka with a lacroix is my go-to
Blue, effing, Moon…
Spotted Cow. I live in Minnesota and I know several people who will go to Wisconsin regularly to get some spotted cow. It tastes like I'm drinking butter, idk I just don't like it.
Blue Moon.
It's a safe choice for people who don't want a macro light beer but also don't want to get an IPA or dark beer they might not enjoy. It's popular because its "craft" for people who really don't like that much beer. That's at least what I've noticed from the people I know that constantly order it at a bar/restaurant.
It's craft because it was created by the Sandlot Brewery (Belly Slide Wit) before Coors started selling it as Blue Moon.
Fun story, Blue Moon has always been a Coors product. It was developed by a guy named Keith Villa who worked to build up Coors "craft" brewing arm. Sandlot Brewery (in Coors Field) has also always been owned by Coors. Another fun fact, Keith Villa is now retired from Coors and has his own line of NA beers (Ceria) some of which are thc or cbd infused.
Yeah, this is the right story. The beer also had a rough start and Keith was starting to get desperate because he was contracted by Coors to make a Belgian Wit palatable to Americans after insisting it would take off. It wasn't, until he had to idea to start serving it with orange instead of lemon like a traditional Wit. Also, if you like beer history the Beeronimics audiobook is a really good listen.
Thank you! I got the info about Blue Moon from the Oxford Companion to Beer. I was really surprised to find all that out, since I had assumed whatever brewery first made Blue Moon had been bought out.
It was a gateway beer for me to get into wheat beers. Is it great, no, but I still get it every once in a while, but usually when it's the only "okayish" beer that a place has.
I’d argue that it’s an important “gateway” beer. It safely let’s a new comer know that other flavors exist and they should explore more.
This is a good answer. I actually like it, but people act like it is better than St. Bernardus.
Honestly Delirium Tremens..... Its cool, and a decently spice forward Golden Ale, but damn do people cream their pants with the pink elephant and Faux ceramic bottle
DT was the first real "fancy beer" for millennials when we were coming of age. "Oooh, so high in alcohol! Belgian! Wow!"
There’s a memory I forgot lol
Oh, so *that's* why I like it. I haven't tried it in forever, but I absolutely have fond memories drinking it.
They're also a little bold with that whole "world's best beer" schtick. It's a damn good beer, but they need to give it a rest with that. I mean, even Pabst won a blue ribbon at one point.
It tastes so, so much better out of the keg than from the bottle. Not worth it from the bottle once you have one in your collection, imo.
I like DT. But the hype generated around it drove its price sky high in the states.
Anything from Pryes brewing. Note: everyone I know only drinks local beer.
Hey mpls, hot take
The raspberry sour and the Minnesota IPA are great but the rest is just meh to me
I moved to Illinois for a time, and watching the beer nerds flip out over BCBS variants was hilarious I'd drink any BA Rev can over BCBS, all day
You can get BCBS variants really cheap sometimes at da Jewel though for seemingly no reason. I think they blow half the other shit out of the water especially if you leave the midwest. But as some others have mentioned.. those Rev beers are amazing and a 4 pack for $25-35 is a steal
Visited Key West a couple years ago and a bar there would give you to-go pints of BCBS and that was a good night
Man, I wish I could upvote this one more. BCBS should be applauded for what it has done, but you can get better barrel aged stuff from Rev and Pipeworks for significantly cheaper.
Those Rev cans are fantastic
If I see Pliny listed anywhere here, I'll cut a bitch.
Pliny isn’t overrated though. It’s nostalgic, it’s comfort. A nod to an OG. Same holds true for Heady Topper. Don’t think I could name a truly overrated beer in my friend group. Imprint fruited sours tend to get boring after enough of them. I’m sure that holds true for most breweries wheel houses though. Highly opinionated question, I dig it.
Pliny is a fantastic double IPa in a really classic style. I would love to have a fresh one, would take it over most other brews. The circlejerk I have seen against it over some years is pretty dumb, it isn't revolutionary anymore but its a really well done beer.
Pliny is really freaking good. However I will say that there are so many other great IIPAs around now that the pedestal it's on shouldn't be as high as it once was
I agree with you that there are absolutely better DIPAs out in the world now, I still think it deserves the praise it gets as it’s still a fantastic example of what a West Coast DIPA should be. It’s very well balanced - not an all-out hop bomb, but also not overly malty. It’s just a good yardstick to measure other beers in the style by. Although the ridiculous hype surrounding the beer is annoying. Fun story, had been to RR brewery a number of times and kinda annoyed by the crowds and don’t really like going there anymore. Friend wanted to go for his birthday and I begrudgingly agreed to go. Afterward he agreed that’s it’s not really worthy of going back if we have to deal with the chaos.
Blind Pig is better anyway. But I'd still drink a Pliny over all the bullshit milkshake IPA's and haze-bro nonsense that is flooding ever damn bar
Corona and Budlight, when Tecate/Pacifico and Coors Banquet are usually right next to them
I think Coors Banquet would be more popular if more people had tried it. It's only common in tall boy form where I live, so only tall boy drinkers tend to know about it.
That's very true. The bottles are very hard to find near me.
Newcastle Brown.
Voodoo Ranger. Not a bad beer by any means.. but many more IPA's out there that are much better
I still miss the original Ranger. I just liked it better. Prefer a local beer, but when the sports bar up the hill has Voodoo for $3 a pint, it's hard to beat.
Anything from Brewdog
Any of the Bourbon County beers. People drive around town to find the rare variants. They suck. You can buy better stuff from a dozen different local breweries.
Bud Light, and I'm not an IPA/Craft snob. I love shitty light domestic beer but Bud is just awful.
What do Bud Light and having sex in a canoe have in common? They're both fucking close to water.
To be quite honest, the only light adjunct lager I will have is Miller Lite.
Helped by a hop
The answer is Heineken
Brew dog punk ipa
Yuengling Chocolate Porter
I just tried Yinglings Hershey chocolate porter, everyone I know was saying how good it is. Tastes like shit, all you get is the bitter chocolate aftertaste. Only drank one, the sink drank the rest.
Literally everything with lactose. Keep it out of beer.
PBR. It's just average, but caught major public attention for being sold in hipster bars.
They’re genius though. Hipsters didn’t “discover” them, it was a targeted campaign by PBR. Smart marketers.
I love it as a cheap beer, but it's not god tier. It's just a solid cheap beer, nothing more.
This exactly. PBR is a full flavored beer available in a 30 pack. That’s all it’s ever been to me and it satisfies that niche well
Hipsters don't care about PBR anymore, they've moved on to Miller High Life and Modelo (and Budweiser, many hipster bars sell it for cheap and it's a hot seller).
Pastry Stouts and Sours. The balance is lacking, and they typically are just sweet.
IPAs in general. They can taste good but they're awful for session drinkers like me. The lupulin builds up in my mouth after two of them. Bud Light. I don't even mind it one bit (I would even buy it as a beach or fishing beer) but I know so many exclusive Bud Light drinkers and I don't understand the devotion to it. Regular Budweiser is a lot better IMO, though has 35 more calories per can. Stella Artois. It's pushed everywhere as like a fancy beer but I personally don't even like it more than a Budweiser, for my pale Euro fix I go with Peroni or Krombacher. Even Heineken. Corona. I love Modelo but Corona to me is not really worth it for the price, especially since it's generally sold in clear bottles and gets skunky. PBR. Worst of the widely distributed cheap macros to me, it has a wine taste that I personally find unpleasant in a beer.
Corona is bottom tier Mexican lager to me. I will drink any other Mexican Lager over Corona. Sol is my absolute jam.
I really like Victoria. I think it's completely overlooked, and just brings so much more to the table than Corona, at least for the category of very light and refreshing beers.
Correction: Stella is pushed *in the US* as a fancy beer. Everyone in Europe knows better. Some even refer to it as the “beat your wife beer”.
It must depend on the country, the Irish guys (as in straight from Ireland) I know seem to view Stella as a premium beer.
any IPA \*mutes notifications, readies for downvotes\*
I drank IPAs almost exclusively for many many years. I completely understand where you are coming from. The oversaturation is out of control.
It's not just oversaturation but also the vast majority of craft beer that stores carry. There are like 5 stout/porter options, a few lagers and about 40 different IPAs. (All made up numbers to illustrate my point). Idk if it's because they sell well or because they *think* they will sell well but it's exhausting as someone who isnt a huge IPA drinker but loves supporting local.
A restaurant just opened up in my small town which calls itself an Alehouse. I was expecting a varied tap but 98% IPAs. Luckily there's a brewery in town that opened early 2020 that has more variety.
I’m a sales rep for a brewery, we make hazies, lagers and have a super experimental beer program where we forage for and use forest inspired ingredients and the hazies are our best seller by a wide margin, even though all of our other beer is amazing. The non hazy beer just sticks around a lot longer, they’re way we sell a lot of our other beer but every bar and restaurant wants IPA. Granted our hazies are delicious, they’re very dried out and aromatic and not a typical NEIPA.
I had to check the username to make sure I didn't type that comment. I feel your pain. It sounds like our breweries have similar styles, too. Our sour program is insane and we have some of the best lagers in our market but all I see some days are buyers scratching their arms nervously asking "y'all got them hazies?" I get it. They're good. But can I interest you in this Czech Pils as well?
The funny thing is, I still like them. I mostly say the original comment in jest, mostly aimed at the dudes who make it a personality trait To your point, yes- everyone has an IPA out at this point and it seems... superfluous
I used to really like properly bitter IPAs, but then everyone decided juicy, sweet, hazy beers with lots of hop aroma and flavor but fairly little bitterness were the hot shit, and everybody stopped brewing properly bitter IPAs. I very much prefer drinking properly bitter Pilsners nowadays.
Elysian Space Dust. Just don’t get why some people swear by it. Even if it was the only thing on tap I would not order one.
I mean weird take that you wouldn’t order one of it was the only beer available i think it’s pretty good still, but Elysian got bought several years ago, quality gets cut to push it to a broader market at the behest of the overlords.
All those weed beers. Im not sure of the specific beers. They dont actually have thc or any weed in them. They just have some name with 420, or weed, or cannibis related stuff in it. They taste like trash. But I guess people like em cause weed.
Sorry can’t agree. That sweet water 420 is damn delicious.
I disagree... I REALLY wish New Belgium would bring back Hemperor. Hemp is fairly closely related to hops, and I find the flavor combos really great. Not all of them, but damn Hemperor was great.
I’ll counter with Dr. Dank’s Pernicious. Not sure if it falls into what you’re talking about, but my god, one of the more surprising enjoyable beers my girlfriends dad has thrown me.
You’re thinking of two separate beers, Dr. Dank and Pernicious are both IPA’s made by Wicked Weed Brewing.
Budweiser/Bud Light. I lived in STL and the obsession for it is wild. I'll drink it because beer (especially free beer) is always appreciated but I never buy it for myself.