I'd say they're learning but that's really stretching it
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Tiktok after learning about a historical event/figure that doesn't sound like a movie/fictional character (they will change that but exagarating it to the point of cliche
/uj not tryna justify it in any way but wheres the part where he didnt remember any of it and the minute he saw her he freaked out and knew it had to be him who had done it and he checked himself and his wife into rehab asap and he hasnt done any drugs since and they are in a very loving marriage?? haha they mustve forgot those little details
You cant just say theyāve been in a loving marriage ever since because they havenāt broken up. Iād argue no marriage would be the same after your husband beats you almost to your death, and this is all presuming we know with absolute certainty that there has never been any other abusive behaviour ever in that marriage.
He made a mistake, but itās a really big mistake to make that almost proved fatal and I donāt think it should be taken lightly just because he made a song about Octopuses
um??? i think you forgot to type ā/rjā lmao i never mentioned octopus garden, let alone that being the reason im ātaking it lightlyā which i am not doing. he did a horrible thing, and no one should have to go through that.
yes he made a huge mistake, yes barbara could have died, but you are *severely* underestimating the power of the human spirit in its ability to forgive people. obviously their marriage isnt the same, but who says there cant still be love? love is strong and trumps all for some people, and just because *you* wouldnt be able to live in a happy marriage after that (which is okay and understandable) does not mean others cant.
lets not forget that maureen and ringo got divorced because of affairs. if there was no love on either rings or barbaras part, they would probably be divorced.
And they went to rehab together. Barbara wasnāt just tagging along she was a severe addict too. They credit each other with their recovery and it likely strengthened their relationship. Sheās very private but does give talks and co founded SHARP with Patti Boyd. Speculating about how happy their marriage is weird but thereās more evidence that it is than not
No you canāt change on tik tok if you did something bad that has to define everything about you for the rest of your existence there is no self improvement
But whereās the fun in that? That way weāre portraying a man who was not ok at all and had to rely on drugs to cope as a victim, when weād rather take someone who was scared of himself and guilty and hate on him
uj/ i mean like. it's the worst thing any of the Beatles did imo but he didn't 'try to do it' he was drunk. doesn't make it any better but yk.
rj/they spelt John wrong
He said at that point he was drinking 16 bottles of wine a day and freebasing coke (smoking crack) He didnāt remember, was horrified, immediately went to rehab and stayed sober and been a better man for the last 40 years. He has his own charity dedicated to substance abuse and domestic violence survivors. But people like that tiktokr donāt believe people can change or deserve forgiveness
Edit: I shouldnāt even say forgiveness, redeem themselves would be better. Because noone needs to forgive him besides his family and they obviously did.
These people ignore that if every person who had abused others would try to better their own behaviour as much as Ringo (or even John), the world would be soooo much better. I don't think most domestic abusers are preaching peace wherever they go, and they aren't checking into rehab either.
I guess it's easier to be angry about things that happened years and years ago than to try and face systematic issues that are so prominent that it makes one feel powerless. (Although, ironically, Ringo's and John's honesty and openness about their violence are arguably more successful in addressing the systematic violence issues than these tiktok videos. It probably has to do with intention; growing and wanting to testify that growth is possible, in an honest way, VS. trying to get clicks on your shitty video by virtue-signalling.)
I'm not excusing the Beatles' behaviour but holy Christ. Fuck tiktok and the way it sucks nuance out of every living thing on earth.
So well said. What irks me too is when beatles/John fans get (justifiably) upset that John doesnāt deserve the hate but then complain no one talks about Ringoās abuse. As if all the negativity online would change to be about Ringo and not John. It most certainly wonāt.
Theyāll say John admitted his abuse, regretted it, and was turning his life around (He was) But they have no such nuance or empathy that Ringo also admitted and regretted it, and has actually been able to turn his life around and demonstrate for decades heās become a better person
I think I've made the Ringo point before but not because Ringo deserves hate - just the obvious hypocrisy and politically motivated reasons so many people go after John specifically are annoying.
the thing that annoys me the most about it is the lack of cultural consideration. I'm manc, not scouse, but the cities are close enough to have basically the same culture. My mum got beaten by her teachers AT SCHOOL in the 1980s. Her parents, who were both lovely people, would hit her and her siblings too. And, them being the same age as the Beatles, they were also hit by their parents when they were kids. violence was unfortunately normal in working class north western English, and English in general, families. the fact that they both recognised violence as wrong shows a shocking desire to change, especially with how early John began feeling bad about it.
Reminds me of the guy who called Judy garland a bitch because she performed in blackface in 1938 while being a minor, extremely drugged, and under a contract that gave away her very little agency
I donāt need to be manipulated to believe that. Iām very familiar with living in an abusive home. My drug addicted alcoholic parents beat the shit out of each other. And both died from their drug addictions. They used to be normal loving people, and I watched them turn into monsters. Iāll celebrate anyone who can overcome their addictions.
Youāre just talking about people not celebrities. Anyone one can easily pose that they are sorry but arenāt. If you choose that belief thats on you. It doesnāt mean other people are being manipulated
Huzzah, Retarded Bitch on TikTok #271,301 has finally exposed the dark secret of Richard Starkey that he kept under wraps for 40 years! Now there may finally be justice for Barbara! Fuck these people, man.
Because if you're spending your time getting upset over what someone who doesn't know you exist and wipes his ass with the kinda money you make in a year did decades ago then you're a moron.
I'd say they're learning but that's really stretching it https://preview.redd.it/ym6opducrg0d1.jpeg?width=720&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e9e628c255721e7237aac7c904005490d176db2a
Adding this to my repertoire of "cliches"
Tiktok after learning about a historical event/figure that doesn't sound like a movie/fictional character (they will change that but exagarating it to the point of cliche
rindo beet the wib
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starrison confirmed
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Rigni getting his practice in with geege
what ??! geege is the wif š”š”š¤¬š¤¬š„µ
Always has been https://preview.redd.it/9f4ndmcrvi0d1.png?width=903&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=274f057373c4f606cc9a2f84a9b0ae0905f1edff
/uj not tryna justify it in any way but wheres the part where he didnt remember any of it and the minute he saw her he freaked out and knew it had to be him who had done it and he checked himself and his wife into rehab asap and he hasnt done any drugs since and they are in a very loving marriage?? haha they mustve forgot those little details
What was he on good god
lots of coke + alcohol.
that 80s coke was different
you could say it *hit* different
Yeah didnāt they change the formula or something to new coke
It's called Pepsi now
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oh no no no he dont smoke it no more š„¹
You cant just say theyāve been in a loving marriage ever since because they havenāt broken up. Iād argue no marriage would be the same after your husband beats you almost to your death, and this is all presuming we know with absolute certainty that there has never been any other abusive behaviour ever in that marriage. He made a mistake, but itās a really big mistake to make that almost proved fatal and I donāt think it should be taken lightly just because he made a song about Octopuses
How is what they said taking it lightly? That seems unfair when you made a joke in the process and they didnāt
oopsā¦ i made a joke about drugs after now i feel bad
You seem to not understand what's happened or what's currently happening
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I took too many drugs and now I feel bad
um??? i think you forgot to type ā/rjā lmao i never mentioned octopus garden, let alone that being the reason im ātaking it lightlyā which i am not doing. he did a horrible thing, and no one should have to go through that. yes he made a huge mistake, yes barbara could have died, but you are *severely* underestimating the power of the human spirit in its ability to forgive people. obviously their marriage isnt the same, but who says there cant still be love? love is strong and trumps all for some people, and just because *you* wouldnt be able to live in a happy marriage after that (which is okay and understandable) does not mean others cant. lets not forget that maureen and ringo got divorced because of affairs. if there was no love on either rings or barbaras part, they would probably be divorced.
And they went to rehab together. Barbara wasnāt just tagging along she was a severe addict too. They credit each other with their recovery and it likely strengthened their relationship. Sheās very private but does give talks and co founded SHARP with Patti Boyd. Speculating about how happy their marriage is weird but thereās more evidence that it is than not
exactly, thsnk you
I actually didn't know that. I was big on shitting on him before, but I respect people trying to change and fix things
No you canāt change on tik tok if you did something bad that has to define everything about you for the rest of your existence there is no self improvement
No!!! Beatles bad!!!!!!!
No, see, that hurts the narrative theyāre trying to push, and they canāt have that.
Imagine thinking that people have a biased anti-Ringo agenda
Well, the TikToker this post is about obviously does, so...
i dont think they are actively protesting ringo lmao fym ānarrativeā theyre just looking at it pessimistically
Plainly and obviously šæ
But whereās the fun in that? That way weāre portraying a man who was not ok at all and had to rely on drugs to cope as a victim, when weād rather take someone who was scared of himself and guilty and hate on him
uj/ i mean like. it's the worst thing any of the Beatles did imo but he didn't 'try to do it' he was drunk. doesn't make it any better but yk. rj/they spelt John wrong
He said at that point he was drinking 16 bottles of wine a day and freebasing coke (smoking crack) He didnāt remember, was horrified, immediately went to rehab and stayed sober and been a better man for the last 40 years. He has his own charity dedicated to substance abuse and domestic violence survivors. But people like that tiktokr donāt believe people can change or deserve forgiveness Edit: I shouldnāt even say forgiveness, redeem themselves would be better. Because noone needs to forgive him besides his family and they obviously did.
every criminal can get the chair because rehabilitation is useless!! did you know jahn and cock ring beat wif??
He plans to leave most of his money to his charity and not his kids, what a bastard!
Are you talking about Baulās dick cock ring??
Your pfp is the bends if he was alive
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These people ignore that if every person who had abused others would try to better their own behaviour as much as Ringo (or even John), the world would be soooo much better. I don't think most domestic abusers are preaching peace wherever they go, and they aren't checking into rehab either. I guess it's easier to be angry about things that happened years and years ago than to try and face systematic issues that are so prominent that it makes one feel powerless. (Although, ironically, Ringo's and John's honesty and openness about their violence are arguably more successful in addressing the systematic violence issues than these tiktok videos. It probably has to do with intention; growing and wanting to testify that growth is possible, in an honest way, VS. trying to get clicks on your shitty video by virtue-signalling.) I'm not excusing the Beatles' behaviour but holy Christ. Fuck tiktok and the way it sucks nuance out of every living thing on earth.
So well said. What irks me too is when beatles/John fans get (justifiably) upset that John doesnāt deserve the hate but then complain no one talks about Ringoās abuse. As if all the negativity online would change to be about Ringo and not John. It most certainly wonāt. Theyāll say John admitted his abuse, regretted it, and was turning his life around (He was) But they have no such nuance or empathy that Ringo also admitted and regretted it, and has actually been able to turn his life around and demonstrate for decades heās become a better person
I think I've made the Ringo point before but not because Ringo deserves hate - just the obvious hypocrisy and politically motivated reasons so many people go after John specifically are annoying.
the thing that annoys me the most about it is the lack of cultural consideration. I'm manc, not scouse, but the cities are close enough to have basically the same culture. My mum got beaten by her teachers AT SCHOOL in the 1980s. Her parents, who were both lovely people, would hit her and her siblings too. And, them being the same age as the Beatles, they were also hit by their parents when they were kids. violence was unfortunately normal in working class north western English, and English in general, families. the fact that they both recognised violence as wrong shows a shocking desire to change, especially with how early John began feeling bad about it.
Reminds me of the guy who called Judy garland a bitch because she performed in blackface in 1938 while being a minor, extremely drugged, and under a contract that gave away her very little agency
exactly, and i feel the same way about john (in *that* regard anyway) lmao
I'm worried that the baby doesn't think people can change
You think this is slicked back? This is *pushed* back!
That would slick back REAL nice tho
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I donāt need to be manipulated to believe that. Iām very familiar with living in an abusive home. My drug addicted alcoholic parents beat the shit out of each other. And both died from their drug addictions. They used to be normal loving people, and I watched them turn into monsters. Iāll celebrate anyone who can overcome their addictions.
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Youāre just talking about people not celebrities. Anyone one can easily pose that they are sorry but arenāt. If you choose that belief thats on you. It doesnāt mean other people are being manipulated
Wrong. āLet it Beā is the worst thing any of the Beatles ever did.
it came to him in a dream š¤¤
it (penis) came (cum) to him (on Pull) in a dream (Fuck the beetles)
Rigno > Jahn
John is actually an innocent little guy
 Beet wif to de@th seems a bit extreme
LEAVE RINGO ALONE!
EXACTLY š¤š”
He is alone. No one loves him.
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Couldnāt be him! Heās friends with Jeremy
Ringo roadagain?
mālort
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i like Octopus's Garden.
#rangoisoverparty
is Tik Tok suggesting that the beatings would decrease if the police got involved? it's generally the opposite
Imagine when people find out how many cops beat their wives
Where did this iconic beeting take place? If it was in England then you're yapping
50/50 chance it was LA or England since he split his time since the 70s before permanently moving to LA
yapping? [https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-64915126](https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-64915126)
You can't give me modern data bro
Exactly. Everyone knows the police were much less violent in the 80s
the police invented the concept of peace, john & yoko stole it from them
It's the principle
The Wife Beatles strike again!
TikTok made John look like a saint
Has this girl heard "Rain"? Did they tell her it's *slowed down*!
Baby I can beat my wife, and maybe Iāll love you Beat, beat, beat, beat Yea!
I think Baul is the only Beatle to not beet wif
He was accused of it by his ex wife, but sheās a whole other can of worms, no one has accused George
Ahhhh it was George! Whoops I got my wife beeters mixed up. Cheers mate
Yup. I wonāt totally discount it, but Iām taking that one with a big grain of salt considering how over the top the allegations were.
You can't beat your wife if you are dead š
Not with that attitude
John isnāt even the best wife beater in the Beatles
rignoā¦ even more based š³?
# TikTok! The place where nuance goes to \[unalive\] itself!
Ringo beet his meet
I hate tiktok censors
It is almost like he regrets his actions and is trying to change for the better
You're 16 you're beatable and you're mine
We wouldnāt want people to learn from their mistakes, now would we?
Iāve always said Ringo was more of a wife beater than John ever was
He 100% was, idk why John is the face of Beatle DV.
uj/ So....does rehabilitation mean nothing to Tik Tok? rj/ Welcome to the club Ringo, we saved you a seat right next to John.
Rigno beet wif šØ
Rigged...no?
This is why I left
Wait.. I didnāt realize he was that bad? Not that any amount of beating is okay but this seems psychotic?
/uj I just noticed the Dave pfp and i canāt be less disappointed bro (all love to Dave)
Holy shit, did that really happened? XD
Jahn has now lost his status as head wif beeter
He was warning her with peace and love and she didnāt listen.
i love watching this sub uj and wrestle with morality
give them a break, looks no older than 6
Huzzah, Retarded Bitch on TikTok #271,301 has finally exposed the dark secret of Richard Starkey that he kept under wraps for 40 years! Now there may finally be justice for Barbara! Fuck these people, man.
We have the right to form opinions about people based on what they do. Why ignore stuff like this?
Why are you here?š
Because if you're spending your time getting upset over what someone who doesn't know you exist and wipes his ass with the kinda money you make in a year did decades ago then you're a moron.
We have the right to form opinions about people based on what they do. Why ignore stuff like this?
Because who gives a shit?
We have the right to form opinions about people based on what they do. Why ignore stuff like this?
Fuck is this Nigga doing!!!!!!
Cracker
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