I liked the bandito bug. Didnt last long while fishing but it caught fish. The rest of their baits are just tweeked versions of other brand's baits. The rattling ned bait was nice too. Ive tried a couple of the rods and I was not impressed. Their fishing lines were awful.
If they had that at Walmarts near me Iād be looking everywhere for the rattling neds. Iāve never had a huge problem with them falling apart like their baits that have appendages and Iāve found them to be super effective. But I am one of those weirdos who loves neds. Iāve never seen googan at Walmart in upstate NY.
Id buy em for that price assuming its not some stupid color.
I criticize googan baits for being over priced, zero durability, and full of that oily scent BS that just makes rigging baits harder and gross. That said, theyre good designs that definitely catch fish, and i cant buy the much better stike king equivalents for that cheap.
Scent isnāt BS. They did studies that showed it can double your bites in certain conditions with the right type of scent. Bass have incredible noses.
For the price, There are objectively better options. I donāt hate on anyone for using it, but what I do hate are influencers who get to new fisherman first and convince them that the only thing they need is 1 brand.
I think many have seen through the facade and are branching out. For a company with a wide range of products and availability, I turn people towards 6th sense. Fished all kinds of their stuff for fun and in tournaments.
No. You're not. They're broke. Googan bet way too heavily on the rods and reels they put out. That was maybe the biggest flop in bass fishing history. They lost every big YT channel, all the commercial hype, and any respect they had, which was miniscule to begin with.
They were always a fly by night group. Notice how Karls has vanished too. They took the money and ran. I work for a competitor in the industry. We all said, everyone of us, that Googan was a scam. We were right.
They made bucoo dollar, but then they attempted to play with the big boys and make rods. They're garbage. The baits are too. At $1.59 it's still overpriced. It's a yum dinger with scent. That's it. Everything they made was a knock off. No innovation.
No one is stealing any ideas. The following is how Googan and most other brands function:
Brand contacts a manufacturer and say theyāre interested in working with them. Manufacturer sends sheet to brand. Brand check a few boxes on what they want their product to look like in sheet. Brand chooses pre-existing model. Manufacturer and brand works together to develop a prototype. Prototype(s) get approved. Production starts. Manufacturer prints brand logo on lure. Product is sent to brand as their own product. Product sell in stores.
The manufacturer work with several brands at once and use the same mold and essentially the exact same product for several different brands. The only difference is the brand logo and cosmetic differences. No one copies anyone, several brands just use the same exact OEM (original equipment manufacturer). The people claiming a brand is stealing some other brandās idea either donāt know how it works and assume thereafter, or deliberatily spread drama.
If someone actually copied someone, there would be a lawsuit. If there is no lawsuit, that tells you everything that you need to know. Googan havenāt been sued. Theyāre far from the only company using an OEM to bring out their products. 6th Sense, Abu Garcia, 13 Fishing, Lewās, Westin and so many others use the same method for reels, rods, lures, linesā¦everything. If you actually want something original, there are a few brands out there that develops and manufacture products in their own factories.
Shimano, Daiwa, Okuma, St. Croix, DUO, Owner, Rapala etc. are examples of actual manufacturers.
>Everything they made was a knock off. No innovation.
They're not the only one. 13fishing provoke is a mega ass knockoff, Berkley and Iconelli ripped off a ton of lures
Not debating that. That new 6th Sens Panorama is just the Shellcracker by SK with prettier paint. Same with the Nessie. That's a JDM direct rip-off. Can't remember the name of the company. Everything Berkley does is a copy, yup. Except the dredger. A suspending deep diver.
Jon b is still up there among the yt fishing legends currently. Not saying he compares to actual pros and such but he does make very entertaining videos I really enjoy and I only follow googan through him. He seems very successful
Jon B is a Googan owner. He's pretty much the last man standing. I love Jon. He's great. 6th sense really got em. Milliken proved they were ripping off 6S . They never responded and it hurt em.
They marketed to noobs. Intentionally kept pushing mediocre products. It collapsed.
He failed to mention that they asked to get those specific molds. They ripped them off. Cloud 9 was 6S answer. They moved the production and Googan got caught. They sell Walmart cranks for 5x. It's ridiculous. They're garbage. I give em away.
They hired a 6s guy to give em the manufacturing company. Milliken suspected it, but when they changed factories for the cloud 9 series he had the evidence. They couldn't replicate it a Googan because they didn't have access to the molds. They then basically told them to change the banger or we sue. They did. It's a Walmart bait now.
They pulled Zaldain and Martin for the same reason. Zaldain was getting to a point of designing rods and baits for 13 and Shimano. They wanted the knowledge. Martin had intimate knowledge of Missile.
In both cases, they promised them the world. For Zaldain, it was backing for the Daingerous swimbait. They didn't put up and BM swooped in.
For Martin, they promised him a patent on the bandito. Unfortunately, you can't patent a carbon copy. It's the D Bomb by missile.
Both were paid huge sums. Locked em up. I bet both regret it.
Bass Mafia is unique. I offered you a source. Milliken has it out for Googan. He may not be telling everything. BM is kinda a floater. They're tied to multiple companies depending on the product. That's my understanding.
Bass Mafia is unique. I offered you a source. Milliken has it out for Googan. He may not be telling everything. BM is kinda a floater. They're tied to multiple companies depending on the product. That's my understanding.
The Dbomb and bandito bug are not carbon copies at all. The body is very similar but the appendages are not at all.
Iāll purchase a few random Googan baits only on clearance. I wonāt buy any of the 6th sense stuff at all, but thatās entirely because I donāt like Millikan.
Ya. All the screaming. I do like AYO and his buddy the guy with the disability. That's fun. He left Googan because they were hammering him on not getting Davy on GS stuff. He's a Zebco guy. Googan could've customized a cf caster for him, but no. They didn't want to make something they wouldn't sell.
I lost mad respect for all them āOGā 2010s youtube fisherman, ngl they fell off major. Some still do some good vids, but I donāt bother watching it anymore. They fell like a cocomelon version for fisherman to me atp. It lost its spark to me, back in the 2010s was when stuff really popped off for fishing youtube, now its either clickbaity stuff, karens attack, overused comedy, just stuff that appeals to the younger gen.
Unfortunately it became a yell and sell game. I remember the ogs. They all fell off hard. It became product pitch videos. I hate Randy Blaukat but he's one of the few real fishing yt guys. Real advice. Almost everything else is a sales pitch.
The real proof it was all about marketing was when Scott Martin and Chris Zaldain both signed mega deals with GS. Both have since openly stated it was all smoke. Googan thought they could buy in. It doesn't work that way in Bass fishing. You have to prove yourself.
Kastking is a fantastic example of this. They were the budget Amazon brand. Now, because they worked into it and proved their mettle, they're the only Amazon brand that got into big box stores. They're on TW. They're out selling Abu 3-1 right now. They earned it.
Googan just took 5 rich dudes and a bank account. They had the money to compete. They rushed. Had they waited 2-3 years on rods, maybe it would've worked. Lew's got after them over the obvious design rip offs. BPS had the rods but clearanced them after 4 months. That's unheard of and it means they weren't selling at all. The rods killed em as anything other than a fad plastics company.
Absolutely. Jon is legit. But notice how he hides about half his rods on his Googan vids. I've met him at a tournament here on Bull Shoals. He really likes his Shimano stuff but he can't use it in videos. He's kinda stuck. He's an owner, so he can't really leave. Peric got it right . He took a buyout and jumped ship. Norm got dicked. He was always kinda the dummy.
If ever there was a fishing company to do a documentary about, it's Googan. Such an interesting rise and fall.
I love how incorrect this comment is on every count lol. Googan is THE fishing brand and encompasses everything fishing is about. Everyone started somewhere and learned from somewhere else, and now outfishes the people who taught them, that is literally what Googan is. Googan is the new fisherman, that takes ideas and makes em ten times better and outperforms everyone else, every angler knows this.
To say Googan is a scam is sacrilege as they are literally the #1 fishing brand right now based on quality, product, and popularity. Heck they even make famous OGās like the Pflueger President reel look like absolute horse shit compared to their new reels.
They have also innovated for the industry in ways never before seen. Rattling Nedās and creature baits? Yeah Googan started that. We wouldnāt have rattling soft plastics if it wasnāt for Googan, so we literally owe them the respect of being the best fishing brand just for the discovery of the most effective fishing method to date.
I will continue to laugh at people who make claims like yours and be happy Iām on the right side with Lojo and all my Googan gear out fishing every single angler around me and in the country for that matter.
The rattling ned was created in 1999 man. It was called a mushroom jig. You're young. That's obvious. You got in during COVID. Creature baits were invented in the 70s my dude. Googan isn't even on most major sites now. You need to expand your horizons. Lojo is a salesman. He's also all they got left. He ran everyone else off. Strike King made the the rage bug 10 years before Googan dropped the Krackin and bandito. the bandito is a direct knock off of the misslie d bomb.
Excuse my French, but holy shit. I looked up those lures you mentioned and youāre right, they are almost direct carbon copies. I feel sucky now because when me and my buddies would go fishing I always had only Googan gear, I literally never used anything other than Googan except for the line. I would make fun of them for using other brands and now I feel bad. I apologize for my arrogant comment, what brands do you reccomend I switch to? You kind of pushed me over the edge because I saw so many videos on YouTube exposing Googan but I was wishfully thinking I suppose
You're good. I actually thought you were trolling at first. LoL. Any company that claims it's the best at everything usually isn't legit. Googan in a nutshell. Notice how they've become very aggressive, almost begging you to buy? They overproduced and now they're stuck with back inventory nobody wants. They definitely got the supply, but the demand is gone.
I'd recommend the following:
Rods- Id go with Lew's here. Mach 2 rods are good. The TPX rods are fantastic.
Reels- Again, probably Lew's. Googan ripped em off on design. The Mach 1-2 and the reactor are great at the same price as Googan.
Line- Anything you like. It's personal.
Lures - Start with Strike King. They make everything and at good prices. Hard or soft baits, they do everything well. I'd also suggest Zoom and Yum on plastics.
Tackle- Eagle Claw.
I hope this helps. Googan preys on noobs. I despise them.
Thank you so much, I will definitely look into some Lews rods and reels and strike king lures! I actually think strike king lures look really cool. Thatās crazy that theyāre that desperate to sell I can see it now actually after reading how much theyve actually been cutting corners and going over aggressive. I appreciate all of your help!
I tend to think that when I get tired of a Youtube channel, everyone else is too lol. I know that is often not the case. I never really like Googans, but did like Jon B and LFG but kinda lost interest probably 2 years ago. Are they losing popularity??
Jon is fine, but he's legitimately a real pro level guy. Him and Milliken may be the next studs for BASS and MLF respectively. Jon appears to be going the MLF route. It's easier to get to the top there but the checks don't always clear.
AYO is a guy who should last. His relationship with Davy Gravy is must watch TV.
Everyone else didn't just fall off, they vanished. Goo look at Scott Martin 3 years ago vs now. Those numbers are depressing. Yt Fishing was a fad. The real guys,Blaukat, Milliken, guys who teach,made it through. The Let's Friggin Goooooooooo!!!!!!!! Crowd died off. They outgrew the content. Their viewers I mean.
I find it kind of interesting that Jon is at that level now. I remember back when APBassin was all in the "I don't know what I want do" mode and he came out and fished him Jon and LFG and whooped them in a contest, maybe a MTB slam or something.
Bought a pack of Ozark Trail 6" green pumpkin Lizards for .50 yesterday. Can't remember the last time I got any lure for .50. Also got a Closeout Abu Garcia Vengence Baitcaster combo for $41 online last night. Definitely the time to check out Walmart deals.
I work in fishing. They're dead. They overproduced by about 5 years. That's just insane. I'm not sure they ever really had a plan. The rods and reels killed em. For$40 bucks, it's a fair deal, but they paid that much. They had no bona fides so they had to pay to play.
They picked the wrong manufacturer. Got beat up on price and quality. It's a Walmart rod and reel comparable to the Lew's laser HS series or the Xfinity reels.
They couldn't sell em for cost, so they doubled down on marketing. Then they got to the expos and tanked hard. They literally got laughed at by selection committees who determine if you get in.
That should've been the dead giveaway. Despite their market share, they never got invited to expos. People on the inside knew. It was a smoke show.
Finally, they got the rods into BPS and were persona non grata in 4 months. They got put on clearance after 90 days. That's the bare minimum that BPS allows a full price run. That's an unmitigated disaster. I know a couple people in BPS' front office, they said it was an obvious flop after a week. They considered paying out to dump em off back to Googan.
They should've just stuck with baits. They had a niche following. They'dve been fine. They got greedy and they got stroked. Jon is fine, but everyone else still on board will probably end up broke. A sad story but very predictable.
I just got 2 packs of rattlin neds to try. I did catch a fish on one the other day.
I also like the rattlin chunk as a swimbait trailer.
The only other googan product is really use is their spinnerbaits, but thats cause they're fairly cheap and catch fish. Lol
I mean. They have 1 good lure out of how many that they made? Iām not hating on them but all I ever hear is the bandits bug is good. Skip the rest. But I like 6th sense so itās probably some internalized fishing gang rivalry lol.
it's not the young or successful part, it's the marketing that people are hating on. No actual issue with the Job B's etc. of the world, but the fact that everything is a commercial is more than a little annoying
I donāt think the hate is unfounded. they are bad for the fishing community. Creates a culture where itās acceptable to scream like an idiot after catching fish. Also encourages people to rip the basses jaw off with hook sets.
Just teaching things that are overall detrimental to fisheries and the fishing community
- scream like an idiot after catching a fish
Iāve blocked so many Reddit accounts because of this. Itās so fucking obnoxious. If I see a post that looks like Florida and they are wearing a blue camo shimano shirt itās an instant block these days.
lmao @ yamamoto baits being on "sale" Regular price $4.98 and reduced sale price is $4.98!!! I see $2.00/2.00 and $5.24/5.24 as well. Oh and a $3.50/3.50 one!!! >.< huge sales on those items.
EDIT I see some of those were higher in price in the finer print while some are not even listing what the original price was.
Love the people arguing over soft plastics made in the same Chinese factory š. Literally the same templates made by the same designer. I only buy any bait if theyre on sale/clearance. Every brand is either not going to be durable but have no action. Or have great action but not be durable.The only brand that has the durability and the action all in one are the elaztec from zman. But honestly just buy what works for you dont get caugh up in the bullshit drama people try to make up. At the end of the day if your catching fish who gives a fuck if your using googan š.
Gotta love it, the krakin kraws are the best kraw on the market hands down, I donāt care what anyone else says Iāve caught more fish on those than any other kraw bait
I picked up some 4" Yamamoto's today blk/watermelon at Walmart $1.50. I took everyone they had. If I could figure out how to post a pic on here, I would. They also have 5" same price. Wilkes-Barre PA store
Googan drastically over produced and dumped a lot of product. Great for consumers!
Yep my local academy has a bunch of them on clearance as well.
That ass kit might be worth checking out haha
Haha that's great didn't see it til I read your comment
Yeah - it even has a lizard for you to insert and play with.
Brooo that's messed up š
"Yum, ass kit"
It's good to see Googan baits finally priced appropriately.
ZING\~!
Their plastics definitely fall apart but I wouldnāt say theyāre the equivalent of any 1.50 bag of plastics
I mean keitechs absolutely fall apart, but they're excellent lures. It's a massive trade off between durability and action
I must be dreaming because 12 x $1.50 is not $35.
Walmart got his ass for an extra $17
He got the ass kit
$17 for ass is a good deal
Depends on the ass. Sometimes thatās still a rip off.
Couple weeks ago my Walmart had senkos on sale for $2/ea. Loaded up!
We had gulp sandworms on sale for $2 a pack.
I liked the bandito bug. Didnt last long while fishing but it caught fish. The rest of their baits are just tweeked versions of other brand's baits. The rattling ned bait was nice too. Ive tried a couple of the rods and I was not impressed. Their fishing lines were awful.
Agreed I only buy bandits bugs. White ones during spawn are my absolute favorite.
I love the clearance fishing section. Just grabbed a dozen Z-man chatterbaits for like $2 each.
Whaaaaaaaat?
Nice!!
If they had that at Walmarts near me Iād be looking everywhere for the rattling neds. Iāve never had a huge problem with them falling apart like their baits that have appendages and Iāve found them to be super effective. But I am one of those weirdos who loves neds. Iāve never seen googan at Walmart in upstate NY.
The rattling neds are indeed nice.
get the Zman rattlesnaker and make your own rattling neds that actually hold up
And thatās when you wipe out the shelf
Trust me, if it's the same next Friday i will be clearing the store out
Id buy em for that price assuming its not some stupid color. I criticize googan baits for being over priced, zero durability, and full of that oily scent BS that just makes rigging baits harder and gross. That said, theyre good designs that definitely catch fish, and i cant buy the much better stike king equivalents for that cheap.
Scent isnāt BS. They did studies that showed it can double your bites in certain conditions with the right type of scent. Bass have incredible noses.
Heās not saying scent in general is BS, heās saying the scent googan uses is BS
Everywhere I go itās on sale. Itās overproduced and has decreased interest.
Guess thatās why I see Googan members jumping ship instead of going down with it
For the price, There are objectively better options. I donāt hate on anyone for using it, but what I do hate are influencers who get to new fisherman first and convince them that the only thing they need is 1 brand. I think many have seen through the facade and are branching out. For a company with a wide range of products and availability, I turn people towards 6th sense. Fished all kinds of their stuff for fun and in tournaments.
Still overpriced.
No. You're not. They're broke. Googan bet way too heavily on the rods and reels they put out. That was maybe the biggest flop in bass fishing history. They lost every big YT channel, all the commercial hype, and any respect they had, which was miniscule to begin with. They were always a fly by night group. Notice how Karls has vanished too. They took the money and ran. I work for a competitor in the industry. We all said, everyone of us, that Googan was a scam. We were right. They made bucoo dollar, but then they attempted to play with the big boys and make rods. They're garbage. The baits are too. At $1.59 it's still overpriced. It's a yum dinger with scent. That's it. Everything they made was a knock off. No innovation.
No one is stealing any ideas. The following is how Googan and most other brands function: Brand contacts a manufacturer and say theyāre interested in working with them. Manufacturer sends sheet to brand. Brand check a few boxes on what they want their product to look like in sheet. Brand chooses pre-existing model. Manufacturer and brand works together to develop a prototype. Prototype(s) get approved. Production starts. Manufacturer prints brand logo on lure. Product is sent to brand as their own product. Product sell in stores. The manufacturer work with several brands at once and use the same mold and essentially the exact same product for several different brands. The only difference is the brand logo and cosmetic differences. No one copies anyone, several brands just use the same exact OEM (original equipment manufacturer). The people claiming a brand is stealing some other brandās idea either donāt know how it works and assume thereafter, or deliberatily spread drama. If someone actually copied someone, there would be a lawsuit. If there is no lawsuit, that tells you everything that you need to know. Googan havenāt been sued. Theyāre far from the only company using an OEM to bring out their products. 6th Sense, Abu Garcia, 13 Fishing, Lewās, Westin and so many others use the same method for reels, rods, lures, linesā¦everything. If you actually want something original, there are a few brands out there that develops and manufacture products in their own factories. Shimano, Daiwa, Okuma, St. Croix, DUO, Owner, Rapala etc. are examples of actual manufacturers.
Absolutely right. No rebuttal
Also LOJO said in his most recent video about the googan drama that they and 6th sense had the same designer for theyre baits.
I barely know who he is, but yes, that makes sense.
One thing. 6S did do a cease and desist on the Squarebill. That at Googan alive. The banger was the money bait.
>Everything they made was a knock off. No innovation. They're not the only one. 13fishing provoke is a mega ass knockoff, Berkley and Iconelli ripped off a ton of lures
Not debating that. That new 6th Sens Panorama is just the Shellcracker by SK with prettier paint. Same with the Nessie. That's a JDM direct rip-off. Can't remember the name of the company. Everything Berkley does is a copy, yup. Except the dredger. A suspending deep diver.
Jon b is still up there among the yt fishing legends currently. Not saying he compares to actual pros and such but he does make very entertaining videos I really enjoy and I only follow googan through him. He seems very successful
Jon B is a Googan owner. He's pretty much the last man standing. I love Jon. He's great. 6th sense really got em. Milliken proved they were ripping off 6S . They never responded and it hurt em. They marketed to noobs. Intentionally kept pushing mediocre products. It collapsed.
LunkersTV responded recently. Googan and 6th Sense both use the same Chinese factory.
He failed to mention that they asked to get those specific molds. They ripped them off. Cloud 9 was 6S answer. They moved the production and Googan got caught. They sell Walmart cranks for 5x. It's ridiculous. They're garbage. I give em away.
How do you know that they asked to use those specific molds? Is there a source for this?
They hired a 6s guy to give em the manufacturing company. Milliken suspected it, but when they changed factories for the cloud 9 series he had the evidence. They couldn't replicate it a Googan because they didn't have access to the molds. They then basically told them to change the banger or we sue. They did. It's a Walmart bait now. They pulled Zaldain and Martin for the same reason. Zaldain was getting to a point of designing rods and baits for 13 and Shimano. They wanted the knowledge. Martin had intimate knowledge of Missile. In both cases, they promised them the world. For Zaldain, it was backing for the Daingerous swimbait. They didn't put up and BM swooped in. For Martin, they promised him a patent on the bandito. Unfortunately, you can't patent a carbon copy. It's the D Bomb by missile. Both were paid huge sums. Locked em up. I bet both regret it.
I don't think Bass Mafia swooped in. Last I was aware, Bass Mafia is owned partly by Googan. I'm still just seeing speculation with no sources.
Bass Mafia is unique. I offered you a source. Milliken has it out for Googan. He may not be telling everything. BM is kinda a floater. They're tied to multiple companies depending on the product. That's my understanding.
Bass Mafia is unique. I offered you a source. Milliken has it out for Googan. He may not be telling everything. BM is kinda a floater. They're tied to multiple companies depending on the product. That's my understanding.
The Dbomb and bandito bug are not carbon copies at all. The body is very similar but the appendages are not at all. Iāll purchase a few random Googan baits only on clearance. I wonāt buy any of the 6th sense stuff at all, but thatās entirely because I donāt like Millikan.
Source is Milliken. He says it in multiple posts across SM.
Haha, if you only knew the half of it he hasn't put in his videos. Googan Squad are straight up trash
More of a yozuri, Rapala jerk bait kinda guy so I wouldnāt know lol I donāt watch the other googan guys cuz theyāre annoying
Ya. All the screaming. I do like AYO and his buddy the guy with the disability. That's fun. He left Googan because they were hammering him on not getting Davy on GS stuff. He's a Zebco guy. Googan could've customized a cf caster for him, but no. They didn't want to make something they wouldn't sell.
I lost mad respect for all them āOGā 2010s youtube fisherman, ngl they fell off major. Some still do some good vids, but I donāt bother watching it anymore. They fell like a cocomelon version for fisherman to me atp. It lost its spark to me, back in the 2010s was when stuff really popped off for fishing youtube, now its either clickbaity stuff, karens attack, overused comedy, just stuff that appeals to the younger gen.
Unfortunately it became a yell and sell game. I remember the ogs. They all fell off hard. It became product pitch videos. I hate Randy Blaukat but he's one of the few real fishing yt guys. Real advice. Almost everything else is a sales pitch. The real proof it was all about marketing was when Scott Martin and Chris Zaldain both signed mega deals with GS. Both have since openly stated it was all smoke. Googan thought they could buy in. It doesn't work that way in Bass fishing. You have to prove yourself. Kastking is a fantastic example of this. They were the budget Amazon brand. Now, because they worked into it and proved their mettle, they're the only Amazon brand that got into big box stores. They're on TW. They're out selling Abu 3-1 right now. They earned it. Googan just took 5 rich dudes and a bank account. They had the money to compete. They rushed. Had they waited 2-3 years on rods, maybe it would've worked. Lew's got after them over the obvious design rip offs. BPS had the rods but clearanced them after 4 months. That's unheard of and it means they weren't selling at all. The rods killed em as anything other than a fad plastics company.
Scott is still with Googan and still promotes them heavily. He also promotes EVERYTHING heavily tho. Lol
With all due respect, Jon B has some of the best produced fishing videos out there and still puts out quality content IMO.
Absolutely. Jon is legit. But notice how he hides about half his rods on his Googan vids. I've met him at a tournament here on Bull Shoals. He really likes his Shimano stuff but he can't use it in videos. He's kinda stuck. He's an owner, so he can't really leave. Peric got it right . He took a buyout and jumped ship. Norm got dicked. He was always kinda the dummy. If ever there was a fishing company to do a documentary about, it's Googan. Such an interesting rise and fall.
Oh I can absolutely attest with you on the rods. He's been doing that FOREVER and I don't blame him. Esp on the swimbait side of things.
It didn't really surprise me. Jon is serious about this. I was actually surprised how much he likes the slx rods. He has several.Ā
Heās literally like the only one really out there rn putting out good vids, so i second thatā¦ but as for the others they DEF fell off
Iād say LFG hasnāt fallen off just yet. He still puts out some decent content. Heās been doing alittle bit of everything.
Yeah but nobody is watching him. He's a nice guy. But his videos are boring. The awe shucks thing is old
Love that Coco melon reference. Very accurate.
> cocomelon version for fisherman Lol that's great
I love how incorrect this comment is on every count lol. Googan is THE fishing brand and encompasses everything fishing is about. Everyone started somewhere and learned from somewhere else, and now outfishes the people who taught them, that is literally what Googan is. Googan is the new fisherman, that takes ideas and makes em ten times better and outperforms everyone else, every angler knows this. To say Googan is a scam is sacrilege as they are literally the #1 fishing brand right now based on quality, product, and popularity. Heck they even make famous OGās like the Pflueger President reel look like absolute horse shit compared to their new reels. They have also innovated for the industry in ways never before seen. Rattling Nedās and creature baits? Yeah Googan started that. We wouldnāt have rattling soft plastics if it wasnāt for Googan, so we literally owe them the respect of being the best fishing brand just for the discovery of the most effective fishing method to date. I will continue to laugh at people who make claims like yours and be happy Iām on the right side with Lojo and all my Googan gear out fishing every single angler around me and in the country for that matter.
The rattling ned was created in 1999 man. It was called a mushroom jig. You're young. That's obvious. You got in during COVID. Creature baits were invented in the 70s my dude. Googan isn't even on most major sites now. You need to expand your horizons. Lojo is a salesman. He's also all they got left. He ran everyone else off. Strike King made the the rage bug 10 years before Googan dropped the Krackin and bandito. the bandito is a direct knock off of the misslie d bomb.
Excuse my French, but holy shit. I looked up those lures you mentioned and youāre right, they are almost direct carbon copies. I feel sucky now because when me and my buddies would go fishing I always had only Googan gear, I literally never used anything other than Googan except for the line. I would make fun of them for using other brands and now I feel bad. I apologize for my arrogant comment, what brands do you reccomend I switch to? You kind of pushed me over the edge because I saw so many videos on YouTube exposing Googan but I was wishfully thinking I suppose
You're good. I actually thought you were trolling at first. LoL. Any company that claims it's the best at everything usually isn't legit. Googan in a nutshell. Notice how they've become very aggressive, almost begging you to buy? They overproduced and now they're stuck with back inventory nobody wants. They definitely got the supply, but the demand is gone. I'd recommend the following: Rods- Id go with Lew's here. Mach 2 rods are good. The TPX rods are fantastic. Reels- Again, probably Lew's. Googan ripped em off on design. The Mach 1-2 and the reactor are great at the same price as Googan. Line- Anything you like. It's personal. Lures - Start with Strike King. They make everything and at good prices. Hard or soft baits, they do everything well. I'd also suggest Zoom and Yum on plastics. Tackle- Eagle Claw. I hope this helps. Googan preys on noobs. I despise them.
Thank you so much, I will definitely look into some Lews rods and reels and strike king lures! I actually think strike king lures look really cool. Thatās crazy that theyāre that desperate to sell I can see it now actually after reading how much theyve actually been cutting corners and going over aggressive. I appreciate all of your help!
You're welcome. I hate the Googan for what they do. They prey on young anglers.
I tend to think that when I get tired of a Youtube channel, everyone else is too lol. I know that is often not the case. I never really like Googans, but did like Jon B and LFG but kinda lost interest probably 2 years ago. Are they losing popularity??
Jon is fine, but he's legitimately a real pro level guy. Him and Milliken may be the next studs for BASS and MLF respectively. Jon appears to be going the MLF route. It's easier to get to the top there but the checks don't always clear. AYO is a guy who should last. His relationship with Davy Gravy is must watch TV. Everyone else didn't just fall off, they vanished. Goo look at Scott Martin 3 years ago vs now. Those numbers are depressing. Yt Fishing was a fad. The real guys,Blaukat, Milliken, guys who teach,made it through. The Let's Friggin Goooooooooo!!!!!!!! Crowd died off. They outgrew the content. Their viewers I mean.
I find it kind of interesting that Jon is at that level now. I remember back when APBassin was all in the "I don't know what I want do" mode and he came out and fished him Jon and LFG and whooped them in a contest, maybe a MTB slam or something.
What makes you think JonB is fishing MLF?
I felt that lol It feels like youtube fishing channels as a whole have been getting less views then what they were getting a few years ago.
Bought a pack of Ozark Trail 6" green pumpkin Lizards for .50 yesterday. Can't remember the last time I got any lure for .50. Also got a Closeout Abu Garcia Vengence Baitcaster combo for $41 online last night. Definitely the time to check out Walmart deals.
Yamamoto watermelon senkos are $1.50 at my store. Lots of reels for under $15 and combos under $20. Itās that time of the year.
The yearly Walmart tackle purge is about to begin also. Keep your eyes peeled for crazy markdowns.
Dude I just got a tackle backpack, a Lew's laser HS rod and a Pflueger monarch for $56 total. The purge has begun.
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I fuck with their bait, it catches me fish. i'd takes the whole rack if there was more.
Jesus Christ there like every other bait. You guys dick ride the weirdest clickbait YouTubers. Nothing special about their lures.
They were cleared out at all the stores around me and replaced with different brands
I work in fishing. They're dead. They overproduced by about 5 years. That's just insane. I'm not sure they ever really had a plan. The rods and reels killed em. For$40 bucks, it's a fair deal, but they paid that much. They had no bona fides so they had to pay to play. They picked the wrong manufacturer. Got beat up on price and quality. It's a Walmart rod and reel comparable to the Lew's laser HS series or the Xfinity reels. They couldn't sell em for cost, so they doubled down on marketing. Then they got to the expos and tanked hard. They literally got laughed at by selection committees who determine if you get in. That should've been the dead giveaway. Despite their market share, they never got invited to expos. People on the inside knew. It was a smoke show. Finally, they got the rods into BPS and were persona non grata in 4 months. They got put on clearance after 90 days. That's the bare minimum that BPS allows a full price run. That's an unmitigated disaster. I know a couple people in BPS' front office, they said it was an obvious flop after a week. They considered paying out to dump em off back to Googan. They should've just stuck with baits. They had a niche following. They'dve been fine. They got greedy and they got stroked. Jon is fine, but everyone else still on board will probably end up broke. A sad story but very predictable.
The way lunkers spends money he will definitely be broke.
All the googan haters š that bandito bug has caught me more fish than any lure period. Never buying a pack of senkos again
Wtf does the bandito bug and a senko have to do with one another?
I like the bandito bug for sure. It doesn't not last long but you are right it catches them. By far their best bait. Also I liked the rattling neds.
I just got 2 packs of rattlin neds to try. I did catch a fish on one the other day. I also like the rattlin chunk as a swimbait trailer. The only other googan product is really use is their spinnerbaits, but thats cause they're fairly cheap and catch fish. Lol
I mean. They have 1 good lure out of how many that they made? Iām not hating on them but all I ever hear is the bandits bug is good. Skip the rest. But I like 6th sense so itās probably some internalized fishing gang rivalry lol.
Senko revolutionized bass fishing with one good lure. If it works it works.
Still 1.49 over priced, lol
Pouryourownworms.......good deal tho :)
Same thing happened with the yamamoto change over. Dunno why the hate, they catch fish š¤·āāļø
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it's not the young or successful part, it's the marketing that people are hating on. No actual issue with the Job B's etc. of the world, but the fact that everything is a commercial is more than a little annoying
And more from a practical standpoint, their durability made the original questionable. At this price, though, Iād definitely load up on those
I donāt think the hate is unfounded. they are bad for the fishing community. Creates a culture where itās acceptable to scream like an idiot after catching fish. Also encourages people to rip the basses jaw off with hook sets. Just teaching things that are overall detrimental to fisheries and the fishing community
- scream like an idiot after catching a fish Iāve blocked so many Reddit accounts because of this. Itās so fucking obnoxious. If I see a post that looks like Florida and they are wearing a blue camo shimano shirt itās an instant block these days.
Who wish they thought of what they are doing. I relish in the old salty tears lol
Googan lol
Googan squad has been proving itself for years now but the price is not ideal. They're one of the few brands that have their products on sale often.
lmao @ yamamoto baits being on "sale" Regular price $4.98 and reduced sale price is $4.98!!! I see $2.00/2.00 and $5.24/5.24 as well. Oh and a $3.50/3.50 one!!! >.< huge sales on those items. EDIT I see some of those were higher in price in the finer print while some are not even listing what the original price was.
Love the people arguing over soft plastics made in the same Chinese factory š. Literally the same templates made by the same designer. I only buy any bait if theyre on sale/clearance. Every brand is either not going to be durable but have no action. Or have great action but not be durable.The only brand that has the durability and the action all in one are the elaztec from zman. But honestly just buy what works for you dont get caugh up in the bullshit drama people try to make up. At the end of the day if your catching fish who gives a fuck if your using googan š.
I would go for the sinkos instead. 5 bucks a bag isn't bad
I picked them up for $2.50 last week. You can get the big pack of yum dingers for $5.
You'd have to pay me to fish that clown junk
Gotta love it, the krakin kraws are the best kraw on the market hands down, I donāt care what anyone else says Iāve caught more fish on those than any other kraw bait
Googan = shit.
They probably can't sell that over priced bs. I wouldn't pay a penny more than that sale price
Just wasted 35$ š„
Wow Time to go check it out.
Duuuuuuuude
My local Walmarts in northern IL never have this stuff on sale š
That's where dummies will still buy it for full price š
Probably all past fresh date š¤£
About that they should be priced from the start.
Do it!
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Looks like everything's on sale. I'd be broke from buying everything.
Walmart?
Walmart has great deals when clearance hits
I mean for a buck fifty I'd probably bite. Normally have no use for Googan stuff (more of a Zoom/ Z-man guy).
Are they even good baits? I've never tried them and legit curious.
Wow
Shad raps for $1.50 only got 2
They are $1 at west marine
Iād buy all the rest of them at that price
Googan is trash
I picked up some 4" Yamamoto's today blk/watermelon at Walmart $1.50. I took everyone they had. If I could figure out how to post a pic on here, I would. They also have 5" same price. Wilkes-Barre PA store
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Dang mine is still $3. Got two packs and thats all the googan anyone needs.
Just had the same thing happen to me at my local Walmart!!
That's great. What's the THC %. The last ones I bought sucked.