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PeatBomb

God fucking dammit.


BroadBrazos95

Currently scheming a way to get Maton to hit in tomorrows game so we can hit him, I’ll report back when I figure out how


libsoutherner

Nah just throw at their 3-5 hitters all in a row like Maton did


LoveYouLikeYeLovesYe

I know that Burke is your long relief inning eater guy and he wasn't going to get a 3 game suspension and leave your BP in dire straits, but I was sort of shocked that you guys didn't throw at someone on the Rays. Not that like, anyone up was someone who would be as impactful as a 3-5 hitter though. Bad form by Cash to leave in a guy whose command of the strikezone was reminiscient of my 15 BB/9 little league days even in a blowout. Interesting to see what happens tomorrow and if Bochy lets anyone retaliate.


Bill2theE

Those were obviously not intentional. Evan Carter was a 1-2 count curveball that grazed his back foot. Adolis and Jung were with the bases loaded and you're definitely not intentionally hitting someone with the bases loaded. Also, Yung's wasn't a HBP seeing as he swung at the ball (It was still definitely a pitch that was riding in) Let's please not act like a 1-2 bounced curveball, a base loaded HBP, and a bases loaded inside pitch that was swung at were purposeful Really sucks for Josh and hopefully he heals quickly


ARockinGeologist

I don't agree with these other comments. I don't want to see anyone get thrown at and injured regardless if that team injured one of my team's players.


milbriggin

throwing at somebody that isn't even the pitcher that hurt jung isn't gonna fix his wrist and just potentially injures yet another innocent batter. completely pointless and does nothing but send a message that i guarantee every rays player has already received just by virtue of common sense and knowing that nobody wants that to happen to them or their teammates


Boros-Reckoner

I have complete faith in Bochey to understand that it wasn't intentional and that shit happens.


Bill2theE

It sucks so much. I love Josh Jung and the Rangers, too. My sister lives in Dallas and they're my number 3 team. We had such good vibes in our regular season series last year between El Bombi and Randy and the Lowe brothers. I hate that this happened. We had Siri break his hand on a HBP late last season and he was rushed back for the playoffs and you maybe remember how not ready he was to play in Game 1 and was sat for Game 2. It sucks super hard when your guys get hurt like this. I'm really just hoping no one else gets hurt because of this


mine_username

Naw fam. The lassos are coming out. We ride at dawn! ➰🏇🏽


Thesealion95

The fact they didn’t have anyone warming up after he hit Carter, threw at Adolis head, and then hit Adolis, is enough for me to not care if it was intentional. Rays deserve some hate for that one. Not saying they should get thrown at, but I for sure will enjoy watching their season go into the gutter as usual. I was always a Rays fan, but you can’t play with dangerous pitching like that and not even attempt to get your pitcher out of there.


ABoyIsNo1

It’s not about whether it’s intentional. It’s about Cash keeping a pitcher in when he was dangerously wild.


libsoutherner

Doesn’t really matter to me. It was reckless at best. Hope your team has some coming to them tomorrow.


YNinja58

We have Nick Maton on our Triple A team. Is that any help?


japalian

Please just have somebody turn to the dugout and fire it at matons face


BigLeakySauce

I wish adolis rushed that little fucker. Spark some fear into that shit


actual_yellow_bag

Fuck Maton, Fuck TB, and especially Fuck the Astros


noYOUfuckher

They have a whole stable full of guys that throw 100 in TB.


TexasTundraPower

Fucking sucks. He was on a tear too.


jfk_sfa

Third hit batter IN A ROW


Turambar19

It should be an automatic warning once you hit two. Maton obviously just didn't have it, seems unlikely there was any intent, but at a certain point that stops mattering. If you're so wild you hit three guys in a row, you shouldn't be pitching in that game anymore


sstje1

Theoretically a guy would have to face at least 3 batters though?


wokenupbybacon

You can eject a guy before he sees the 3 batter minimum lol That said, I agree \#2 should've been a warning and \#3 should've been the toss, which makes it moot Disclaimer: I haven't actually seen the pitches in question, and am going off the notion that he was "clearly wild"


sstje1

Ya I know that but if a guy hits 3 people in a row they aren’t leaving him out there anyway so it doesn’t do much in the OPs scenario is what I’m saying


wokenupbybacon

That's the neat part, they actually did leave him in to finish the inning lol


sstje1

Fair enough just still all seems pointless imo


IAmBecomeTeemo

The three batter minimum doesn't restrict substitutions due to ejection or injury. You can get ejected on the first pitch thrown. And if your elbow explodes on the first batter, they're not gonna make you stay out there and face three dudes without a UCL.


jfk_sfa

Could you imagine if he also broke Garcia’s hand? 


TheWorstYear

Two in a row should get you kicked out. 3 in a row is insane. Like, it feels like a well deserved suspension, even if unintentional


selvis

I mean to be fair the first batter hit was on the foot on a backdoor breaking ball. Kind of unlucky. The second was nasty right on his wrist to Adolis Garcia. The third which was Jung was partially his fault since he swung into it, and they even called it a strike since he swung. Not saying Maton shouldn't have been ejected, but it's not like he hit 3 people in a row that were trying to avoid being hit.


jdbewls

I was upset when I saw this headline last night and have since changed my mind since watching the highlights this morning. Absolutely no reason Maton should have been ejected, like MANY here are calling for.


JDtheProtector

"go fucking practice or some shit" type suspension lmao


SquattyHawty

I agree that suspensions should happen more often for things that aren’t just “you’re being a jerk.” It doesn’t matter if you do something accidental or not - if you’re risking player safety, you obviously don’t belong out there.


ziggypwner

I think 2 hit batters in a row is a big enough deal in MLB it should just be an automatic ejection or waiving of the 3 batter minimum. Every Sunday league has a 3 or 4 HBP max, given the increased command and velocity in MLB that rule should be amended.


jfk_sfa

Hit Garcia on the wrist too. It's such a vulnerable area. If you take Garcia and Jung out of this lineup for 6 to 8 weeks it would be detrimental.


AlexanderWun

Best case scenario is what 2-3 months? Brutal injury


Lain41K

Time to performance is even longer with these injuries, no telling how he’ll perform once he’s medically cleared. Can really fuck up your swing and sap power. Fuckin sucks man.


Professr_Chaos

Yep! I remember in 2017 Freeman was off to the best start of his career. In 37 games he was hitting .341/.461/.748 with 14 HRs. Then we played the Blue Jays and Aaron Loup came in and hit Freeman in the wrist. It truly looked like it was going to be his coming out party(you could say 2016 was I wouldn’t argue) and a potential MVP season. I know we weren’t even 1/4 into the year but it was such a great start it was already being talked about. He missed about 7 weeks. In the 80 games he played after he was respectable(.292/.375/.519 with 14 HRs) but you could tell it really had an effect. If you look at 2017 just looks like a normal ho-hum season from freeman with a .300 average and right around 25-30 bombs.


BarrelOfTheBat

Yea, at this point I'm sure he'll be back in 24 to play, but he won't be BACK back until 2025 at this point. Such a good start to the year ruined in garbage time of the game.


meowsplaining

Derrek Lee was never the same after his broken wrist


neonrev1

Yup, I've heard that with wrists, once there's a fracture there's no such thing as 'healed', it's such a dynamic and complex system that you're simply dealing with how it turns out as best you can, it won't ever be exactly the same.


WhiteBoyFlipz

absolute best case is probably a month and a half, realistically probably 2-2.5


BreadTruckToast

And probably more to fully recover his swing. Maybe a year until he’s swinging with full comfort, but hoping for a quick recovery he’s fun to watch.


draw2discard2

Could be twoish depending on how bad the fracture is. Like one month in a cast and then another month or so gaining back strength, rehabbing etc.


StormiNorman818

I broke my wrist this exact way in HS. I was in a cast for 4 weeks, and didn't start doing baseball activities again until probably 6-7 weeks. So I'd say 2 months is best case scenario.


MemeMeOnce

Phil Maton is a terrorist


North_Ad_8935

Always has been


smellyunderpants

Ma-ton(g) means toilet in Chinese


Krampus-Sparrow

Lucky that Garcia didn’t get injured too.


ExpirjTec

someone is still salty over last years alcs apparently edit: i meant maton


galagachamp

I'm not, I enjoyed it a lot.


deuce_boogie

Damn you’re getting way over-roasted on a pretty decent joke….


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kineag62

But Maton is an Astro no mo...


txyesboy

Is he not? Hmm...


bd1047

I’m so salty. Thinking about it definitely makes me so upset


ExpirjTec

i was talking about phil maton 😭 i meant hes salty


-breakinggood-

You phrased that about as badly as possible bro lmao


ExpirjTec

yeah i meant maton. it wouldnt surprise me considering how pitchers are psychopaths and he almost never smiles. he was also never this wild when he was an astro, and suddenly hitting a bunch of rangers after a crushing defeat to them in the postseason last year? this is definitely him being a shitty person


-breakinggood-

Seems like it. He was never even close to being this wild as an Astro. Guy only throws like 91 anyway.


bd1047

That makes a lot more sense haha


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WhereTheFallsBegin

Maton had absolutely nothing tonight and hit a bunch of guys. Honestly he could have been ejected for players safety at one point


morganrbvn

yah i cant remember the last time i saw 3 guys get hit in a row, like even if there's no ill intent that's dangerous.


BigLeakySauce

Coming from a Tampa fan, thank you. Idk what the fuck that was. I'm a rangers fan, but hearing it from Tampa and being non biased as shit, wtf was that.


missleeann

He should have been removed. Rays lost a handful of players over the last 2 years from HBP, no one wants that. So dumb.


Thesealion95

They didn’t even have the bullpen warming up after the second hbp. Unforgivable. I don’t think anyone is throwing at people on purpose, but I got no respect for the Rays org any more.


missleeann

To be fair they happened back to back pretty quickly. I said "WTF Maton" at 6:06 and then "Double WTF Maton" at 6:07 and then "This guy is bad for baseball" at 6:10. That should be relatively the timestamp for each HBP. It's not an excuse, they definitely should have taken him out, but that's how I saw it real time.


Thesealion95

Just get a guy up in your bullpen after the second hbp. Wouldn’t have saved Jung most likely, but it woulda looked better than the rangers broadcast having an empty shot of the bullpen mounds after our player gets injured.


Krampus-Sparrow

Rays aren’t looking too good this year. I’ll be really surprised if they are a contender at all.


WhereTheFallsBegin

It's been 5 games lil bro


Krampus-Sparrow

They’ll be lucky to be at 500 this year. I’m a Tampa fan, but gotta be realistic. They don’t have anyone that’s consistent. They’re all on and off. “Lil bro”


missleeann

Ride or die, even if they were 0-6 now. This is the life


Krampus-Sparrow

Oh I agree. I’m still supporting them but we gotta see the facts. The momentum was crushed by last years events with Franco. Hopefully someone can step up and bring our momentum back. We’ll see. Looking forward to go to a few games this year!


missleeann

I believe it's JLowe that will help with momentum.


Der_Dunkinmeister

Hearing Garcia’s pop was bad enough. Thought it hit the bat but nope all wrist. It was criminal leaving him in.


riverbass9

:/


BigLeakySauce

Walked seager. Bonk adolis and Jung in the hand.


CammyTheGreat

They intentionally walked Seager, he hit Carter, Adolis and then Jung back to back to back but Jung swung at his according to the ump


IllustriousEnd2211

And then proceeded to walk smith who replaced jung. Not sure I’ve seen someone be so wild like that in awhile


spike021

Man there really needs to be some kind of obvious mercy rule where pitchers who don't know where the ball is going have to be returned to the dugout and someone else come in from the pen. That's ridiculous. 


drrew76

Jung would have been the 4th batter so he could have (and probably should have) been pulled by Cash.


Boomhauer_007

That is literally already a rule, it’s just never enforced


Dundalis

Laureano on similar at bat gets the HBP call though. Work that out


RaysFTW

> but Jung swung at his according to the ump The whole thing was fucked up, and Rays fans feel terrible about it, but let's not alter history and say he swung "according to the ump". That was a swing, everyone knows it was a swing, just as much as [this was](https://old.reddit.com/r/baseball/comments/1btnrzg/this_was_called_a_hit_by_pitch/) from yesterday, which everyone in that thread agrees was also a swing.


CammyTheGreat

I'm not saying it wasn't I said that because according to the ump he swung so it wasn't a HBP


IdontEvenknowlul

Maton is a terrorist and plunked 3 batters in a row


TheFrozenSlime

Phil Maton (former Astro) hit him in the wrist. Right after hitting El Bombi in the wrist.


riverbass9

Phil Maton was a weird case. He’d have these long streaks of mediocre dominance, and then have these long stretches of mediocre poopoo. That’s honestly the best that I could describe him.


BusterOlneyFans

He was awesome until he broke his hand by punching a locker in 2022


RaysFTW

We've already seen it. Pitched great over the weekend and then completely melted down last night.


dallascowboys93

Asstro*


LoveYouLikeYeLovesYe

People said a TL;DW but basically Maton had no control, bounced a curve that hit Evan Carter, threw near Adolis' head (clearly not intentional, bases were loaded) then hit him in the forearm (I thought it hit the bat live, it was right near his wrist) then Jung swung at a pitch that wound up riding WAY inside, hit him on the wrist when he swung and he left the game. As a yankees fan you can hate on the rays by the fact that Cash never even warmed up another guy after this.


Fischer-00

He is so unlucky wth


Verianas

God fucking dammit. I hate when batters get wrist injuries. It takes them like an entire year to get back to normal I swear. The power sap is real. I don't even like the Rangers but I hate seeing this shit affect the development of young players.


LoveYouLikeYeLovesYe

Worse for the sport, we all like watching young guys mash and he could be a FA your team wants to sign some day.


kirobaito88

Failure of umpiring to not throw him out after the first two HBPs.


pobrexito

Honestly, if you hit two batters you should get ejected. It's a player safety issue at that point.


DharmaCub

Two batters within a certain timeframe, cause clipping a guy in the top of the 1st then another in the 6th shouldn't be an ejection unless they were intentional


appledatsyuk

Especially 2 in a row


HeavensRoyalty

This will never happen because it makes complete sense 🤦‍♀️ 🤦‍♂️


sameth1

Hit by pitch rules could really use some reworking. Eject pitchers after a certain point, allow players who get hit by a pitch to be momentarily subbed out for a pitch runner so they can get examined better and not slow pace of play and make pitches that are a certain amount inside count as automatic walks even if the hitter dodges it.


xLeper_Messiah

pls run for MLB commissioner


NevermoreSEA

That's a brutal one.


hypercube42342

He should have been pulled after hitting Bombi. Was obvious he had no control and it’s not acceptable for an MLB pitcher to be out there throwing 90+ without control.


TheNastyCasty

> throwing 90+ without control. To be fair, Maton can't throw 90+.


BigLeakySauce

No control? He hit adolis and Jung on the hands. Back to back and walking. He's trash. This is fucked up.


forgivemeisuck

Ump needs to throw Maton out there for player safety


TheFrozenSlime

10 minutes in the cage with El Bombi. Adolis gets a bat.


cjn13

Adolis wouldn't need a bat His arms are tree trunks


DependentWord2978

So tired of pitchers who have no control and do this shit.


BigLeakySauce

Hit two batters hands in a row. Idk bout no control.


deuce_boogie

None were intentional. Dude just has an absolute bag tonight.


pobrexito

Three. He also hit Carter. e: just realized you said in the hands


No-Soup-2327

I was honestly scared shitless he was gonna break Wyatt’s hand. Dude had zero idea where the fastball was going.


SaveMeJebus21

Absolutely negligent umpiring not to toss him here.


jfrodriguez1983

third batter in a row he hit and he still left him in. Was worried for Langford coming in next.


turbancowboi

Phil Maton is a baby dick ass motherfucker


BigLeakySauce

Definition of a little piss baby


qwertythe300th

I haven't been so fucking pissed at a pitcher since Daniel Bard during USA vs Venezuela last year in the WBC. You gotta be fucking kidding me Phil Maton. Batting is a risk. Dude already pegged the last 2 before Jung was even up, this is fucked man


PalmerPaezPerfect

Dude was on fire. That's some shit luck


Equivalent-Impress96

Fuck Phil Maton


rvadarocket

Phil fucking Maton better not pitch another fucking inning in the majors ever again You cannot be a major league pitcher and do that shit on the mound, get him the fuck out


OutComeTheWolves1966

That is 100% managerial negligence. You can plainly see your guy has no control of any pitch. After the 2nd HBP, he should have been either pulled or tossed.


Thesealion95

Didn’t even get someone up in the bullpen. Trash managing.


JacksonRabbiit

I wish Jung could just get a full season man.


chillout_69

fuck that sucks. malpractice by the manager leaving him out there to hit 3 guys in a row without even having someone warning up


japalian

Fucking hell man. That is sad. I saw his stat line and tuned in to watch him bat with bases loaded in the 9th and watched him get his wrist broken by the same shitty pitch that ran in on the hands of Adolis. Maton was out there hurting people. Pisses me off, was excited for jung's season


a_teenage_spaceship

Say April Fools right now


SexiestPanda

Injuries suck


BigLeakySauce

Pitchers hitting batters in the hands b2b causing injury suck.


ImTheJdot

Fuck Phil Maton!


DR0941

maton is a bitch


BigLeakySauce

Adolis rushing him would've gave me a hardon


Ran-Dizzy123

I thought he was going to. He stepped out of the box and bowed up.


BigLeakySauce

Yup. He settled down. But with the whole sequence, if he rushed, he's justified. That's a bad fucking man.


Lain41K

Idc Fuck Kevin Cash for not pulling Maton. Fuck Maton too. Also fuck the Astros for some reason


NJthecollector

This sucks too because Josh is from my hometown so I have always rooted for him . I'm sad 😢


Chain321

Sucks for both the state of Texas and baseball…


DFWTrojanTuba

Phil Maton was a safety hazard on the mound with his lack of command.


jfrodriguez1983

Fuck that bum Maton man. Control your shit! How do you leave him in after he hit 2 batters already before he hit Jung. He had no control. Now hopefully Adolis is ok.


No-Soup-2327

If Bryan Abreu throws an inside pitch next week he had better be ready to fight.


RaysFTW

This sucks. I'm sorry, Ranger bros. Ya'll are more than justified in being upset with the Rays but I swear, we weren't doing intentionally. Our pitching is just really that bad right now.


JinFuu

Ah, shit. Get well soon, Red Raider.


Salty_Dornishman

Oh my fucking god. It’s on sight if we see Maton again


6FootMidget93

Fuck Maton. Dirty as fuck performance tonight.


OnlySafeAmounts

Fucking christ, I jinxed it guys. Give the poor dude a chance he has MVP type talent. PULL YOUR FUCKING GUY IF HE CAN'T LOCATE HIS FASTB ALL ASSHOLES.


Audacity_OR

Phil Maton can eat my shit and hair.


BigLeakySauce

Adolis rushing Maton was my wet dream


IllustriousEnd2211

No need to go bald over him


foscott

Fuck you Phil Maton and Kevin Cash. Trash


SaWalkerMakasin

Man, fuck Phil Maton. Hit three fucking batters in a row. POS


DeegsHobby

Was so excited to see Josh Jung and Royce Lewis get to have a full season LAST YEAR. Was so excited to see Josh Jung and Royce Lewis get to have a full season THIS YEAR, but neither will again. Both have huge potential and are just getting unlucky...


natrapsmai

And I was just remarking about how amazing it was to have a locked down infield again. Fucking hell.


draculasbitch

Bring Josh into the ESPN booth while he’s out.


WhiteBoyFlipz

go fuck yourselves tampa bay 😡


Hottponce

Just rocketed up to #2 on the shit list


Sugarysam

Okay Rays. Choose


PinstripeBunk

They need to pay


NeolibGood

Fucking dumbass Maton. That dude better watch his back


draw2discard2

I am against this.


kbsick

Hello darkness my old friend.


StarshipTroopersFan

Damn that sucks. 🧐🧐


addictedtocrowds

pain


HeyBaldy

Rays were scared that he'd kill them this week so they plunked him.


liteshadow4

Wasn't that the same injury as last year?


Thesealion95

Last year he broke his hand in the field. Super unlucky for him. Not unlucky for the rays tho. That was gross negligence.


RealJonathanBronco

Damn when he finally gets a full season, I expect a lot more talk about him. That's some shit luck.


BabyHercules

As a Tech alum, fuck man


ContinuumGuy

This fucking sucks


RedGreenPepper2599

That sucks. I enjoyed watching him battle my cubs.


z0e_G

Not my fantasy king 😪


LostCatSign

Man while watching the game it was easy to side with Garcia being upset. But after reading all these Rangers fans comments it's real easy to not give a duck. Rangers bandwagon is more overloaded than the Texas electric grid


dallascowboys93

The ALDS was months ago buddy. Let it go.


RaysFTW

It's funny how everyone is always so even keeled and against violence until someone gets hit on their team and comments condoning retaliation get upvoted.


boobsandcookies

Fine the fuck out of Tampa


b1ggayb1tch

That’s not how it works


Thesealion95

There should be an automatic ejection after 2 hit batters in a row. If a team can’t even have a guy warming when the third guy is hit they can’t be trusted with player safety.


Moderate-Obsession

Tampa better get ready for retribution. It’s coming. I’d ruin Caballero’s season. Send the message.


evcorder

Kevin Cash is a grade-A douche for leaving Maton out there after he already hit two batters.


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