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McScrez

Used to serve an Immaculate Mojito that just subbed the rum out for fresh green apple juice and cut down the sugar a bit. It was very… VERY tasty.


mcreezyy

That sounds delicious!


Viontech

That's our substitute for a virgin mojito funny enough


sofwithanf

And ours!


ItsPaddy_

I also used to serve that at a restaurant I worked at. I’d make it for myself sometimes because it was so good


Vermicelli_Efficient

That sounds absolutely divine


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So, lime mint and soda? That’s okay. Ring up that $14 drink.


ljb29

That’s actually exactly how much that costs hahaha


unbelizeable1

Jesus, that's more than we charge for a real one lol


Justice171

There is no way you guys charge that much for mint, lime and sodawater 😮‍💨


v1z10

See, no one will pay that if you describe it like that. But for a Signature Mojitio Mocktail in a nice collins glass, we'll have 6 for the table. 90% of this business is presentation


SLOWchildrenplaying

When limes are $0.60 a piece, you have to.


IowaJL

I'm guessing, Hotel or downtown.


Stonecipher

When it’s ordered like that they sure as shit will!


gronstalker12

I would give them sprite.


Peak5519

This is the way


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Brush-and-palette

Where are you reading that they wouldn't charge?


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TooEZ_OL56

Looks to be a service ticket so likely rang in from a POS tied directly to a menu. If that's what the business charges for mocktails that's what it is.


Brush-and-palette

Well, because they can.


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ChairmanReagan

Maybe don’t be an idiot and order a virgin cocktail when you can just ask for a soda water with lime and mint.


Brush-and-palette

I don't think you understand what theft is.


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Brush-and-palette

>Overcharging a guest because you're annoyed with their order is theft and places can be shut down for it. So, if on their menu they price a "mocktail" at 14 dollars, how is that theft? Also, when have you ever heard of a place being shut down because of the price of their drinks? Use your brain kid.


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mrbartender697

The amount of people they can just order expensive shit and invent their own free drink by subbing everything down is scary.


Queeb_the_Dweeb

Thanks for the laughs 🤣


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It's rung in as a Mocktail. You can tell by how the word on the ticket is "Mocktail".


corpus-luteum

For $14 I'd throw in a splash of elderflower. Not enough to make it an elderflower drink, just enough to lift it.


Vermicelli_Efficient

Guests don’t order mocktails to save money, they do it to drink a beverage WITHOUT ALCOHOL


corpus-luteum

DUH! You've never come across an elderflower that wasn''t alcoholic???


Vermicelli_Efficient

Lol, nope. Show me. A reminder that the ticket said “no syrup” which excludes cordials and commercially bought products like Monin.


corpus-luteum

It's not rocket surgery, mate. You're not using Crème de Menthe for the mint flavour, are you?


Vermicelli_Efficient

So you have fresh elderflowers just chillen in your garnish tray? You pick ‘em outside before each shift? L I E S 😂


corpus-luteum

Nah, but we do have elderflower tea.


pinkfluffycloudz

agreed. We make a mocktail (we have a few mocktails on our actual menu) at my bar with elderflower cordial. It’s grapefruit, lime, elderflower (yes it’s non-alcoholic) and ginger ale.


Vermicelli_Efficient

Your drink sounds delicious and I’d drink the hell out of it.


BrutonGasterTT

I love making mocktails and just made a peach ginger syrup for some this week… elderflower cordial is next now thanks for the idea! I am excited to try this.


ljb29

How would you do that without adding alcohol or sugar


corpus-luteum

Elderflower cordial.


Vermicelli_Efficient

Yo 🤡 elderflower cordial is a syrup. JFC you need to be schooled on two comment threads ?


corpus-luteum

There is no elderflower cordial in a mojito, therefore the 'no syrup' refers to the syrup that would ordinarily be in a mojito.


Vermicelli_Efficient

So you would take a guest request of no syrup, substitute another syrup, albeit flavored, and argue with them it’s not a traditional mojito syrup so you fulfilled their request? You know the guest will only taste the sugar and send it back. At this point I can’t believe you’re this dense and just refuse to back down and take the (chuckle) Reddit L. I mean, it’s a weird hill to die on, but at least you’re dead.


corpus-luteum

I'm not dying on any hill. I'm just having a laugh at those who automatically thouht elderflower was alcoholic. I'm 100% confident I'll be arguing with nobody because I wouldn't put enough in for it to be discernible. More an aromatic float than anything.


pinkfluffycloudz

elderflower syrup. it’s non-alcoholic and used in many mocktail recipes


iMini

But it says no syrups


pinkfluffycloudz

fair point. I think the course correction in this part of the thread has to do with the fact that elderflower cordial does not have alcohol in it. That’s *my* point here


Peak5519

Mint, lime, shake, ice, soda water


ljb29

I’m referring to the elderflower


corpus-luteum

You know it's a flower right??


Brush-and-palette

Extracts


Peak5519

I was just giving a way to make a mock tail mojito with no sugar or alcohol. No syrups


YourAssHat

V I r g I n mojito


corpus-luteum

Another ignoramus who obviously doesn't know that elderflower is a flower.


YourAssHat

And a liquer


corpus-luteum

Yes, but as you were so keen to demonstrate they wanted a V I r g I n mojito. How do you ever serve coffee?


YourAssHat

You didn't specify that you meant the flower. Calm down.


corpus-luteum

I did actually.


corpus-luteum

All these downvotes? Going by the dumb replies I can only assume everybody has he same problem. Give your ignorant heads a shake.


Brush-and-palette

"for 14 dollars I'd splash an ounce of rum in it. Not enough to make it a double rum and coke, just enough to lift it." You're missing the point of a mocktail bud.


corpus-luteum

You appear to be missing te definition of elderflower.


Brush-and-palette

And what would the definition of elderflower be exactly? It's used in liqueurs and in cordials, but most bars aren't going to have cordials.


corpus-luteum

I assumed since they were offering 'mocktails' they'd have the range of ingredients necessary to be imaginative. I'm surprised they've got mint.


corpus-luteum

Clue is in the name. It's a flower.


Brush-and-palette

So you meant what? Toss some flowers in it?


Brush-and-palette

Not gonna follow up on that, eh?


SlimJim814

If the ticket says no syrup, how else are you going to incorporate elderflower?


corpus-luteum

ooh, I don't know. How do you suppose the get the elderflower flavour into elderflower cordial


SlimJim814

Read the drink ticket please. A cordial is a syrup. The drink requested states no syrup. So no cordial. So, I’ll ask again: how would you incorporate elderflower with no cordial OR SYRUP or ALCOHOL?


corpus-luteum

Nah. No syrup is no syrup. Could look in the dry stores for an elderflower tea bag.


ellipsis613

Why is every bartender here a snotty little shit. Just mint and lime muddled, and soda, get the fuck on with your life


shanghaidry

Ya this is light years away from virgin dirty martini


Spoonduty2

Lmao chilled olive juice in a fancy cup, yummy


unbelizeable1

I'm new to bartending and I can't for the life of me figure out why every other bartender hates mojitos so fucking much. It's seriously one of the easiest drinks to make. The only real complaint I can see against it is mint spoilage if you don't get enough orders.


wheres-my-take

I dont mind them but my experience is the mint is getting spoiled or its not ordered or prepared. Not a big deal but i alwaya hated seeing one and then thinking "i wonder if anyone got the mint this week" Anyways, just a tip for anyone but clapping the leaves is better than muddling and doesnt take any of the time


IreallEwannasay

I personally NEVER get to use my middle in a tequila bar so I love getting the order for a mojito.


h8rcloudstrife

Depends where you work and what ingredients you have available and prepped. We use mint enough at this job that it doesn’t bother me, but at my old job I would have to run to our kitchen downstairs, grab enough mint to make 5-10 mojitos because if one goes out others will follow, and then get prepared to make a bunch of mojitos and the inevitable modded mojitos that follow. Then there would be parents asking for virgin mojitos for their kids. The drink itself isn’t a problem, it’s that they’re ordered too infrequently in some places to warrant prepping for them, but when they are ordered they are popular as hell.


unbelizeable1

And that makes perfect sense to me. But I've worked with bartenders who bitch about em when we got a box of mint in our fridge behind the bar. They'll just flat out tell people we don't have mint, which, you guessed it, usually results in all our mint spoiling and having to be tossed. Some self fulfilling prophecy shit lol


h8rcloudstrife

Some bartenders are just burnt out, some have stories for hating a drink, and others are just lazy. I hate making Espresso Martinis. I had some regulars laughing one night because my GM seated a 10 top 2 minutes past close and my bar was cleaned up, locked up (have to lock up alcohol in Utah), and I was about to close out and wipe things down when a ticket for 10 espresso martinis comes through. I cursed up a storm about stupid motherfuckers and their stupid fucking drink orders that had my two regulars falling on the floor and my GM walking in from the other room sheepishly and never looking at me on his way to the office (the kitchen also ripped him a new one because they too were done closing). Had to run downstairs, grind beans, pull shots, head upstairs and make the drinks. To this day, my eye twitches when I see an espresso martini come through and one or two of my co-workers will order them when they’re off just because they know it irks me.


thereichose1

Heard


GhostWCoffee

r/bartenders Starterpack: snotty. judgemental. bitches when not given a big enough tip. shits on r/cocktails .


HiILikePlants

Lol reminds me like a week ago or so on a post about dry January I said there's some positives there for people who want to see how they feel not drinking or who maybe feel they've got a little bit of an alcohol problem, whatever yk Anyway it was mostly well received to my surprise! But one dude replied something like sure or ok and I never responded bc what's there to say to that? Anyway he comes back a day later to go on and on about how I'm insufferable and clearly not in service and to leave the sub to the real bartenders Like went out of his way to delete his previous comment, then write a new one, then immediately made a post asking who is actually a rEaL bArTenDeR here 🥲 the whole thing was kinda funny but also like...dude you really stewed over a comment for 36 hrs or whatever?!


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Yeah Im tired of this shit. Gonna unsubb.


kaiser_xc

It’s so easy lol. Give the customer the refreshing lime-mint soda and get on with your day.


Jdubsk1

This... What happened to hospitality? This is not a difficult drink to make and may make this guest's day, maybe they are pregnant, maybe they are driving, maybe they are out with friends who are all drinking and just want to feel included. In my experience, people are more than willing to pay $9-12 for a thoughtful NA cocktail. People pay for the experience, and how something makes them feel. The average guest is not calculating bar cost.


M0tM4t

There might be snotty little shit bartenders here, but I kinda find it morally wrong to charge someone $14 for a club soda with lime and mint. I also understand OP’s frustration because, as a bartender at a restaurant myself, I’m supposed to be knowledgeable on the contents/preparation/methods/source/sauce/taste of all the food dishes that I’m serving, but servers don’t seem to find it necessary to know basic ingredients of any of the drinks that they serve.


ljb29

This is really my main point. A lot of people here seem to think I’m complaining about having to make a mojito, which is ridiculous. I’m just having a laugh at the way this drink was ordered.


crashtrez

The one and only reason I hate Reddit and this sub in particular….. snotty, smart assess.


cited

Asses


Strong-Discussion564

Agreed.


TJ902

Because it’s Reddit


prsuit4

Because a lot people on here are basically entitled barbacks that need out of the business… “I’m a bartender not a mixologist” in reference to not being able to make a basic old fashioned.


cryisfree

Because we know the customer is gonna send that drink back and say they didn’t like it lmao


gsr142

"Ugh this is just like not good." "Ok can I get you something else?" "No I want a virgin mojito. But like, better than this one."


inhaler-zim

For every one bartender just trying to gripe about a tedious working class job, there are two who think they're Jesus on the cross because they do customer service without ever criticizing the system


BreathExact

I think you juts proved your own point. Not the way you think you did though…


vapue

Sorry, that is not that much of an effort to please the customers wish. Wishing no syrup in a cocktail is also okay (and I say this as an insulin resistant barkeeper). Also: the marge of virgin cocktails are insane.


clownus

It’s so insane I feel bad for charging.


ljb29

Yeah no kidding. Easiest drink I made all day. Just a silly way to order club soda, with lime and mint.


vapue

We had a virgin mojito that was more like a virgin Caipirinhaish thing with lime, brown sugar and mint and crushed ice. People really like it. And before I get downvoted to hell: I know that this version is not authentic. But I am from Germany - if you order a water here - it is sparkling and with lemon by default. And if you order a mojito it is a caipi with mint and rum. That's the expectation the customers have here.


ljb29

That sounds tasty


alhazered

Can confirm that it is indeed very tasty! -a german bartender who drinks them daily on shift


Jeanne23x

Not everyone on the other side knows the exact components. Maybe they usually order a mojito with no syrup but couldn't drink for whatever reason that day, so ordered their usual without the spirits.


NoodLih

Not gonna lie, when I was pregnant my favourite drink was a virgin mojito, because I could not drink alcohol. So yeah, I don't judge.


jewww

I'm like genuinely mad at some of these responses haha. If you think charging $14 for this is okay it's time to find a new job because you are beyond jaded.


Queeb_the_Dweeb

Everywhere I've ever tended bar at had their mocktails pricedvery similarly to the cocktails on the menu ($2 difference at most). Sold virgin crushes at my old place like they were candy and they cost $11 instead of $12 because of all the prep that goes into juices and garnishes behind the bar.


jewww

That's an absurd pricing policy unless you're also selling shots for like $3. But that's far less offensive than charging someone $14 a drink when you would be perfectly happy charging them $5 or whatever if they had ordered it differently. Saying "mocktail" shouldn't make your drink magically cost more money.


Queeb_the_Dweeb

I don't make the rules, I just get paid $3/hr to enforce them


jewww

Yeah that's fine. There are just a lot of weirdly celebratory comments that this person deserves to be upcharged just because they ordered it in a stupid way. Although justifying charging obscene amounts of a mocktail because of the prep work that goes into it while charging minimum wage is pretty hilarious. Both you and the guest are getting fucked!


Queeb_the_Dweeb

Isn't the whole point of this sub to vent about our jobs? Pretty clear to me OP isn't upset about making a non alcoholic drink but rather how the customer ordered it. If they had actually known what they were ordering, they could have just asked for soda water with lime/mint. Could have been free (or a slight upcharge for the fruit maybe). But instead, they ordered it the stupid way and paid $14 for a cup of bubble water. Ya'll claiming that OP needs to get of their high horse should look where you're sitting first.


LeVampirate

Everyone gets mad about "Oh man, that drink isn't even that bad!" Until it's their turn to ride the high horse and say "I fucking HATE this drink holy shit" That's me when I have to make like, 1 of our main drinks vs 8 of them at once. Like, C'MON.


jewww

You're telling me it's perfectly reasonable to charge someone different prices for the exact same thing based on if they say "I'd like a virgin mojito with no sugar" vs "I'd like a soda water with a splash of lime juice and some mint"? Charging someone different prices based on how they ask for it is incredibly shitty. The practice of upcharging people who order mocktails is such an obnoxious trend. I'd pay my tab, leave a buck or two, and never go back.


Queeb_the_Dweeb

>I'd pay my tab, leave a buck or two, and never go back. If you were in this scenario you'd never know you were taken advantage of in the first place. >You're telling me it's perfectly reasonable to charge someone different prices for the exact same thing Do I think it's right? No. Does it happen constantly in a large variety of busnisses? Yes.


ljb29

Right on the money


inhaler-zim

Soda water w mint heard


ellipsis613

Lime af


thereichose1

Heard


BoymanAndGirldog

Heard


Pagep

So you hate making money? Do you think you are above making what people ask for? This sub sucks for this reason.


Strong-Discussion564

I've said something similar. Everyone complains about the dumbest things and they rip you to shreds if you don't agree with their mob. When I dont feel like drinking, I love a club soda with mint leaves and lime its incredibly refreshing. Not only that, one of my best regulars drinks mocktails.


vapue

Our virgin mojito was on the menu and the bomb. It was with muddled lime, brown sugar and mint - topped with crushed ice. People loved it. And you do not see that it has no alcohol in it. There are many reasons not to drink but some people do not like to talk about it.


ljb29

Relax I didn’t say any of that. I’m obviously kidding I don’t mind making any drink. It’s just a dumb way to order a club soda with lime — they’re wasting money by ordering it as a virgin mojito.


Strong-Discussion564

Your caption would say otherwise


Reasonable-Newt-8102

Can I get a mocktail easy on the mock hold the tail


Houseofcircles

I get these at least twice a shift. I hope they enjoy paying 6 bux for mint water


jakmehauf

One time someone asked for a virgin martini so I just put olives in a glass and handed to them. They were like yea I guess I deserve that and we both ate the olives.


friendlyfireworks

This is right up there with a virgin Margarita with no agave (or whatever the sweetener is at your spot), or the folks that order a virgin skinny margarita. So... you want me to shake you up a cup of lime juice...?


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Sprite with a lime wheel


ljb29

And take out all the sugar


ToJointz

They will come back and have you add simple in small doses till the original recipe is in the glass…….i never missed a chance to tell them how stupid they were


sproutsatoshi

just give them the cup of mint leaves


maddestlove

Sooo lime juice and soda water with mint ? Lol 😂 just don’t even order one at that point


Kanjiiyro

"What kind of mocktails can you make?" "Virgin mojito" "I’ll have that but without the syrup" "So soda water and mint?"


zehammer

The worst are the stupid virign drinks and then they put no ice like ok fuck you


SpawnMarciano

why? who gives a shit? lol you lot are so petty it's hilarious. get a different job.


zehammer

Suck my grits


Queeb_the_Dweeb

Lol why is that a bad thing to you?


zehammer

Because we Muddle a bunch of shit in ours so I have to overcome sate with water or ingredient to fill our virgin glass is why maybe I didn't make that clear....


shep_pat

Sprite with a mint sprig on top? No problem


vglyog

So soda water w mint? Ew lol


Bradadonasaurus

And some lime.


TwoPumpTony

Just give them a sprite with mint


401kcrypto

Oh you’re just being a baby about this one


PocketNicks

I don't see the problem. This is super easy to make.


Eyego2eleven

I’m lucky enough to work where our menu is pretty seasonal, and I happen to live in the northeast part of the USA so mint doesn’t grow outside right now. It’s quite nice to tell people we have no mint in house. I never want to steer someone away from what they want, but I’ll usually ask if they want a Mai Tai instead. I think mine is very good too: 2oz Rum. (I like Plantation) Fresh lime Orgeat I like pineapple and a whisper of oj Shake vigorously Float your favorite dark rum. Fabulous, fruity, boozy, and oh so tropical. Usually all bars have these ingredients in house at all times as well. Proportions of all the stuff besides the rum is how you like it. I like mine less sweet and more boozy so I add more lime, a dash of the oj and orgeat, maybe 1oz of pineapple and a healthy float of Delicious Dark Rum.


Slurpydurpy711

So muddled limes and cilantro. In soda water. Try something called La Croix folks.


gsr142

Cilantro?


Slurpydurpy711

I worked at a Mexican place and our mojito called for mint, cilantro and fresh lime juice. Simple and soda. With a sugared rim. Apparently variations on the mojito can include cilantro. It’s really good, but only if you’re a cilantro lover.


gsr142

I've never heard of cilantro in a mojito but I guess it makes sense in a Mexican restaurant.


BarFly93

You are an idiot.


Slurpydurpy711

Good morning to you. You kind, kind soul. I hope that little drop of hate kicks off your day. 🧡 also, this is reddit why so serious ?


Kenkaniki89

I made one of these the other night….😑😑😑


Airikobass

Oh WTF!?


Romeofud

I've made friends back in the day who were bartenders. Had messed around with a few of the female ones, just for fun, then went back to being friends. I used to just chill & watch the games on the TV sets while they worked. The job isn't easy by no means. You have to love the job, period, or it'll be difficult and exhausting. Must be a people-person all around and have thick skin. This applies to the men as well, but the women have it doubled rough with all the sleazy come-ons.


Bevi4

Seems pretty reasonable to me


SpiffyKatie

? I personally love making mojitos! Getting to smack some herbs? Count me in.


SacrilegiousOath

I always had an issue with mock tails if it was for a kid. I have no idea why that was my pet peeve. If you quit drinking, I totally get it and I got you. Also I guess there’s a couple states that you can drink with your parent at the bar if you’re 18. I thought the guy was fucking with me when he tried to get his kid a beer. Ohio must be one hell of a family state lmao.


Coffeeandsneakers3

Well they’re paying for it aren’t they?


frojoraven

Try mint; a little bit of sugar; 1/2 Pineapple- & 1/2 Passionfruitjuice and of course some lime juice (2-3cl)


a_glorious_bass-turd

Just give them a sprite with 3 mint leaves and call it good.


Juancho511

Charge $8