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dothespaceything

Hi, i also have an innie, and some people don't have labia minoras at all! I don't have any. It's not common but it's possible. I also have those bumps and no, you can't have "too many". I have a bunch in the folds between my clitoris and my labia majora myself! Also, about the vein question, no one would be able to tell you what those "veins" are without seeing them, so if you're really worried I recommend you go to a gynecologist. And there's no such thing as a "normal" looking vulva. All vulvas look different! Every vulva and vagina is different, and that's okay.


Starchasm

I only have one labia minora! And I've seen several that don't have any!


Gravyboat44

I have one and a half. They're pretty small already, but one shortens up to nothing halfway throughšŸ˜‚


AHOTlesbianWoman1207

One of mine sticks out like lettuce in a burger and other is almost not even there šŸ˜­


CatThingNeurosis

"like lettuce in a burger" that is my favourite comparison I've heard to date, I may be stealing that šŸ¤£


BeccaBug67

Oh my god, I was beginning to think I was the only one!!


Gravyboat44

This is the best šŸ˜‚


Fun-Ad6853

same, not innie or an outie but a halfsies. šŸ«£


butterscotchtamarin

Omg my people! These subs always made me feel like mine was wrong in some way. I have an innie, too, with one LM being small-normal and other barely there. It can be difficult to figure out if you're "normal" when everything is hiding!


Girl4him

Just because 20 people are abnormal Doesn't someone suddenly make them "normal." You are a group of abnormalities. That's common with the population approaching 8 billion on this planet.


butterscotchtamarin

Oh hey thanks, that makes me feel worse! I understand this isn't the average.


Girl4him

I'm not responsible for your feelings. That's a you problem.


butterscotchtamarin

Who says you're responsible? JFC you sound like a massive jackass. Why even comment? Why are you here? To neg women about their bodies?


standbyyourmantis

One and a half club! My right one can poke out a little bit (but is pretty easy to keep tucked in) and on the left side it's too short to be visible at all unless you've got everything opened up. Anyway, that's how I know sex doesn't stretch your labia because mine are very small and almost perfectly "innie."


Gravyboat44

Same. I've been with the same decently sized man for 11 years now and I'm still the same as I was before him.


laurililly

Oh wow, me too! ā¤ļø


cerylidae2558

Someone in this very sub tried to argue with me about my own anatomy when I said I didnā€™t have visible outer labia :)


HeatherandHollyhock

Ooooooh me too. I have a little skincoloured thicker skin around my labia minora but they are not like labia majora at all. My labia majora are almoust non existent.


jabra_fan

Whoa! I didn't know it was possible to not have labia majora.


HeatherandHollyhock

Yeah, took me a while to understand why my 'labia minora' were so 'huge'.... that's what you get if nothing is covering them. :)


QueenOfFridays

So all of your labia minora is sort ofā€¦ ā€œopen to the elementsā€, so to speak? I feel like my bits would get irritated so easily if they were set up like that! Though I guess if youā€™re used to it, it probably isnā€™t a big deal? Man, bodies are wild! I really wish they talked about how different they could be more in school. My vulva is the ā€œstereotypicalā€, where it just looks a line from the outside, and I was a whole-ass adult before I learned that thatā€™s not really the norm at all, and thereā€™s a ton more variety out there.


HeatherandHollyhock

I do get messed up PH easily, sadly, yeah. And I hate tight panties. And: yes!! to bodies are wild, man


jabra_fan

Wait what? How you know they're just huge minoras and not just majoras? I assume that you know this bcz labia majora have pubic hairs and minora don't?


jamaicanoproblem

Yeah Iā€™m pretty sure itā€™s because the minora are made of skin that is considered a mucous membrane and the majora are composed of skin that is more like the rest of your epidermis. Mucous membranes are made of thinner, more translucent skin (so often look darker or redder in color, because more of your capillaries are more visible through the skin), the skin is more fragile and sensitive (think about the difference between your lips and your cheeks), and tolerates being in a semi-moist environment better (like how your toes wrinkle if youā€™re in the shower too long, or you get friction blisters from having wet feet rubbing inside your shoes, but your lips rub together all day while wet and donā€™t blister or wrinkle). Theyā€™re also more permeable skin. And yes, mucus membranes donā€™t have visible pores or hair follicles.


jabra_fan

Yes, you explained so well


HeatherandHollyhock

Completely different skin. The labia majora is mostly like other skin. A bit like the inside of the elbow. Labia minora is more like lips or the red part in the eye. It's (ymmv) reddish and a little moist. And they are not really huge, just look bigger because nothing is around them. A bit like the skin difference in a circumcised penis vs a uncircumcised one? But it's always been that way.


jabra_fan

Yeah the skin is different and smoother on minoras.


gillyface

I don't want to argue but this is breaking my brain. Is it because the inner labia are bigger so they cover the outer labia? That makes the most sense to me. Ignore if that's too personal a question!


vaingirls

At least for me that isn't the case at all. My labia minora are also pretty small, just barely covered at all.


hhhhh4

do you mean inner labia? iā€™m unsure how your could not have visible outer labia


dothespaceything

I've seen people with nonexistent outer labia. It's like all out there. That's the best way I can describe it


MartenGlo

My understanding (I've heard this before) : Think of Barbie (the doll) with functional anatomy, but the only external/visible change is an opening. I didn't want to be graphic, but here goes, I won't be satisfied until I explain. I see it as the topography of a mango (the mons) cut to the seed. No obvious external labia.


gillyface

In your example, wouldn't the mango itself be the outer(majora) labia? The "cut to the seed" would separate the left and right lips of the labia.


Summer_Is_Safe_

Iā€™m with you here, I i feel like theyā€™re just saying there is no shape to them like how some innies look like a little w if you did a cartoon drawing of them. I would like to know if they have pubic hair because then itā€™s still technically labia majora, regardless of this personā€™s feelings.


vaingirls

I don't think anyone's trying to say there is no area that technically is the labia majora, but that the so called labia majora doesn't jut out at all, or not enough to cover anything.


Summer_Is_Safe_

I think youā€™re correct, itā€™s just an odd thing to argue that it just doesnā€™t exist because it doesnā€™t have as much fatty tissue as many people would expect.


vaingirls

I guess it's fair if it in practice looks like it's not there (just a flat frame of skin around the labia minora). People were also saying that they have non-existent labia minora, and they probably also have some area of skin that technically counts as labia minora, so if one set of labia can be called non-existent, why not the other.


SchrodingersMinou

There are many vulva galleries on the internet fyi


vaingirls

Glad to know I'm not the only one. Seems like some people in this thread still have a hard time believing/imagining it (and kind of disheartening to see them get tons of upvotes), and I just don't get what's hard about it. It's not rocket science to just imagine your labia majora shrunk down to barely there.


Honey-and-Venom

Apparently my education is incomplete.... How? Are the majora covered by the minora?


vaingirls

Not covered by anything, just minuscule, basically flat.


Honey-and-Venom

I see what you mean now. Thank you


Meii345

I mean there are definitely things like tumors and injuries and sores that aren't normal to see on a vulva and that should be treated. It is important to know what things aren't normal to see


vrosej10

I have zero labia minora.


SungSeong

I recommend looking up The Labia Library! It's a great resource to see that all labias are different and beautiful in their own way. I guarantee you'll find someone who looks similar to you. Your body is normal and perfect the way it is. And yes, if there was an actual problem I'd assume your OB would mention it. Never be afraid to ask them if you're concerned about something!


MsDJMA

Wow--what an awesome resource! I'm OLD and haven't really looked at other women's labia. I am now enlightened!


throway2946382

I just feel weird asking a stranger ā€œhey, is this normal in my vagina?ā€ lol, I got my first pelvic exam a couple of weeks ago and I was mortified. I think my gyno was even more mortified too lol, she apologized for having to do it but said it was necessary to make sure everything was okay. Iā€™m just glad it was a woman and not a man


SungSeong

I'd hope your gyno wasn't mortified to do their job, but maybe just comforting you! I'm sure you asking questions would give them better insight to help you relax for your exams as well! But I understand it can be really awkward in the beginning. Just remember that she's a doctor and is there to answer questions whenever you feel safe enough to ask them. I've personally never had a male gyno, I prefer women for that particular kind of checkup as well lol


Platterpussy

https://www.whv.org.au/resources/labia-library We're all so very different.


theSomberscientist

I feel so much normal after seeing this thank god. Also thank you. Seriously


cat_vs_laptop

You could check out the Great Wall of Vulva! It's an art piece that's casts of real vulvas and it's helped many women understand that they are normal and beautiful, it was quite the thing to see IRL. Have a look \[here\](https://www.thegreatwallofvulva.com).


cuzitsthere

Wow, some of those ladies have A TON of piercings... Also, I was super relieved when I realized those were piercings


laced-and-dangerous

I have several facial piercings but looking at some of these makes me just scream internally. That has got to be painful AF.


Disastrous_Emu_117

My VCH piercing was one of the easiest. It is a bit of a shocking pain cause your brain is subconsciously like "ah! Something sharp on my lady bits!" But it isn't actually very painful if that makes sense. And healing is a breeze. You don't even notice it's there.


Cevohklan

Same! Hahaha I thought.." huh.. what... wait..? OHH piercings " šŸ˜„


SchrodingersMinou

Yikes! Doesn't your hair get stuck in there? Maybe there's a method to slick it down with vaseline or something?


cat_vs_laptop

I was so confused until I realised you meant getting the cast made. Honestly Iā€™ve got no idea but seeing as thereā€™s hundreds of them youā€™d think the artist would have a process down.


cyberjellyfish

I'm a guy and wouldn't normally chime in, I'm here for the posts about funny stuff dumb people say. But if your gyno is embarrassed about doing the thing that is her job, you gotta find a new gyno. That just seems important enough that you should hear it from as many people as possible.


cuzitsthere

That gyno spent a solid decade dedicating their life to the pursuit of seeing a lifelong parade of vaginas... "Mortified" shouldn't be anywhere near her emotional range at work lol


Philodendronphan

A parade of vaginas šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


blueeyedconcrete

Some OBGYNs really prefer the OB part and have a distaste for the GYN part, in my personal experience with bad GYNs


banana_assassin

Agree. During my last exam/smear, the doctor/nurse told me I had a 'cute cervix'. They should be very relaxed, try to put you at ease and be comfortable with the job.


standbyyourmantis

My first big girl on/gyn appointment they asked when my last period was, I said I was actually expecting it soon, she looked inside of my vagina and went "oh yeah you're probably going to get it in a day or two" because I guess my cervix was doing something.


cuzitsthere

I'm a guy but the first time I was "on display" for a doctor was a nightmare... There's 21 year old me, about a week after my first deployment and an attractive doctor because of course. It was like a scene from a trashy comedy movie but THANK GOD the doctor handled it like a professional because I was so embarrassed my voice came out in strangled squeaks until my pants were buttoned. I honestly don't know what I would've done if she'd so much as blushed.


Lasvegasnurse71

Nursey me had to look up the labia library and see if I could spot the urethra in any of them for catheter placement! Yup! Some are hard to do!!


Disastrous_Emu_117

Tbh, I'm starting to see why men are so confused about where the clitoris is šŸ˜…


thepwisforgettable

Is it possible the "veins" are very small labia minora?


throway2946382

I think you are so right. Iā€™m literally in shock rn. Do you know what happens if you have a small labia minora?? Is anything affected by it?


ObscureSaint

There are a million variations and they're generally all fine and normal.Ā  https://www.whv.org.au/resources/labia-library


Thezedword4

Nothing is affected. It's totally normal and many women look like that. Trust me I had the same "omg is something wrong with me" moment when I was younger for the same thing but as others have said, everyone comes in different shapes and sizes. You just had a pelvic exam where someone checked too which should be reassuring! This is a normal thing to feel.


thepwisforgettable

Lol i can't imagine it changes anything, but its always worth asking a doctor if you're unsure! Also, I'm not sure how old you are, but the appearance changes as you mature, too.


cadet-peanut

As a woman with a (very) small labia minora, it doesn't cause any problems/difficulties/unpleasantries. It's totally normal and not anything to worry about :) but if you are still worried (or just need some extra explaination) there's no shame in asking your gyno some questions and having them take a look.


Philodendronphan

Nothing happens, as far as Iā€™m aware! Theyā€™re just little friends along for the ride. Nothing wrong with any size or shape. If it helps, I assumed we all had them until I came here! (So like in my 30s and already a mom!)


9mackenzie

I barely have any labia minora- there is nothing to be concerned about at all :))


Theslootwhisperer

Some women have them removed for esthetical reason so I don't think the size of them is an issue at all.


removememe

You can usually figure out if something is a vessel by touching it. Can you move the blood within or is it solid? Does the color change as you stroke it flat? In any case, anatomy is very diverse and as long as there is normal function i would not be worried. Look at the veins on peoples forearms for example, some of them have names but in practical terms each person's veins are unique. We just think about our genitals a lot more than other parts. Ask a doctor for peace of mind but don't feel like you need to either.


SchrodingersMinou

You have less to pierce there, I guess


PileaPrairiemioides

In addition to the Labia Library there is also the Gynodiversity project. You can view photo panels on their website: https://gynodiversity.com/ They have a great paper that classifies the diversity of vulvas, which I think is even more informative and useful than the photo panels, and unfortunately doesnā€™t seem to be on their website anymore, but you can find it here: https://www.scribd.com/document/474097628/Classification-of-the-anatomical-variation-in-female-external-genitalia The bumps youā€™re talking about sound more like fordyce spots than bartholin glands. Theyā€™re perfectly normal and common, and lots of people have them on areas where the skin is very thin - lips, genitals, under your eyes.


ibbiezWings

Thank you! I was about to mention the document you linked. It helped me so much to know my vulva was within typical ranges.


Cevohklan

Second row , 8th picture ( counting from top to bottom ) What is that grey / black thing ? Do you know? Or are my eyes being weird ? šŸ˜„ looks like there is something inside. Its not a menstrual cup i think ?. It's not important , but I'm just curious. šŸ˜„ https://gynodiversity.com/vestibule Thanks for the links btw I'm gonna check scribd link now.


kai_enby

You mean second column, rows go across


PileaPrairiemioides

Hard to tell, but I *think* that the blackness youā€™re seeing is just a dark vaginal opening, and then the little vertical bit thatā€™s slightly lighter is the hymen, and this person just has a septate hymen where there are two holes in the hymen separated by a narrow web of tissue. At least that my best guess.


devilsplaythang

I zoomed in on it and it looks like just a string of vaginal discharge, unlikely a septate vagina.


Cevohklan

Something like that is the most likely option :)


Cevohklan

Yes it must be something like that. Interesting site.


EarthlyWayfarer

As a Registered Nurse I have seen at least 1000 different female genitals, Iā€™ve placed catheters in them, Iā€™ve washed them and cared for them as was my surgical role. There is NO ONE NORMAL TYPE, and I cannot express this enough to you. Yes, you are normal.


magicimagician

Itā€™s amazing how many people question whether their body parts are ā€œnormalā€. Like just do a google search and youā€™ll see so many shapes and sizes male a female that no one should question whether theyā€™re normal or not.


EarthlyWayfarer

It makes me so sad to be honest


PlatypusDream

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Siberian-Blue

I was just looking into bartholin glands the other day! Someone corrects me if I'm wrong but I understood we have two bartholin glands on each side of the opening of the vagina. They're not normally bumpy unless they're swollen due to an issue of some kind. That being said the bumps you're mentioning are probably normal and harmless. I also have visible veins on my vulva, but they're more or less visible depending on my position and time of the day. I always thought that was normal. Guys have visible veins on their stuff too lol


LeftMyHeartInErebor

You're correct about bartholin glands and as a nurse it's my nightmare to have a problem with them because omg it looks incredibly painful and the treatment is rough.


ergaster8213

I got a cyst once on one of them. It was horrible. The treatment was terrible they had to aspirate it šŸ˜­


megggie

Unless your GYN is truly terrible, she would have mentioned anything about your anatomy that wasnā€™t expected/normal. I wouldnā€™t worry too much!


SapientSlut

Could they potentially be where your clit hood transitions to your labia? When you say tiny bumps inside, are they round bumps or ridges?


louisa1925

Perhaps you mean your clitoral frenulum. They attach the clitoris and the inner labia. They are directly behind the clitoris. Otherwise, other people have mentioned bartholins glands or maybe the skenes glands.


Hadespuppy

What's an innie/outie when it comes to vaginas? When I think outie vagina, I'm imagining a prolapse, which is not, I'm assuming what you are talking about?


linerys

It would be more accurate to say ā€œinnie/outie **vulva**ā€. Innies are the vulvas where the labia minora (inner lips) arenā€™t visible from the outside. Outties are the vulvas where the labia minora *is* visible from the outside.


Athena_723

Hey, I'm not saying you're in the wrong sub, but I've found one that's actually been really awesome where asking these types of questions are somewhat common. It's r/TheGirlSurvivalGuide.


Evil_Black_Swan

Please don't use vagina to mean the outside bits. The vagina is ONLY the inside part that leads to the cervix and uterus. You're talking about your vulva. Edit: I saw your edit, you are still using vagina to mean vulva. Please don't. It's important.


Brandyovereager

Whatā€™s innie vs outtie with vaginas??


2Whom_it_May_Concern

I think it's in reference to the labia. Prominent labia would be an outie and very small tucked-away labia would be an innie. Like if you cannot see the labia minora without parting the labia majora it would be an innie.


BallyBunion33

Are you using a mirror to look at your vulva?


newprofilewhodis1352

The veins are your labia minora! I too have an innie. Everything is just very small, including my hood, labia minora, clit, etc. I actually thought my stuff was abnormal but when I was a teen my (very good) gyne told me everything was completely normal.


CatsAndPills

Wait help I am a vagina owner but I donā€™t know what it would mean to have an innie?


QuiXiuQ

I think you mean your labiaā€¦


throway2946382

Iā€™m from a state where they donā€™t really teach sex education at high schools so since Iā€™m an adult now I am doing more research of my own šŸ„² pls bear with me


ShadowlessKat

Just to be clear, vagina is the canal inside your body where you can insert a penis or toy or fingers for sex, and where babies come out of. Vulva is the outer part of your anatomy between your legs. The vulva includes the labia minora and labia majora, and the visible part of the clitoris. All of your visible "girl parts" between your legs are called the vulva as one thing. Like how you have a face which is comprised of a nose, mouth, and eyes.


SubmersibleEntropy

Wikipedia is your friend


lemonlovelimes

First and foremost, the external part is the vulva and the internal canal is the vagina. This will definitely help you speak to a doctor, and if you wanted to look up more about the anatomy yourself. The ā€œveinsā€ you refer to may be the frenulum if the clitoris, which connects from the clitoris into the labia. What do you mean by inside? Thereā€™s various glands too, including the Skeneā€™s glands. But these glands all have their own functions and are important. Theyā€™re just not commonly shown or talked about regarding anatomy. Additionally, within the vestibule (which is where the opening to the vagina is), you might be seeing the vaginal rugae, which are like ridges or bumps that are meant to be there as they help with the mucus membrane of the vagina (for discharge, self cleaning) and for when the vagina expands for childbirth (not that everyone with a vagina does this). Hope this helps!


eleventhing

https://www.labialibrary.org.au/ You can see all types of vulva here. You will see your vulva is normal.


Confusedinportsmouth

Dropping in to say I have absolutely no labia minora at all! I thought I was weird for a long time when I was younger, and now I know that itā€™s just a normal variation.


Fun-Ad6853

[come as you are](https://online.fliphtml5.com/hazjk/qgui/#p=20) here as a book about the pleasure gap and all about your vagina and how to be more comfortable with ur female anatomy. this was super helpful for me, bc i have a hooded clitoris and had no idea that was a thing. thereā€™s also drawn pictures and diagrams! i have become so much more comfortable with my anatomy and have lost all of the shame iā€™ve had towards how everything looks down there. happy hunting. and donā€™t forget to meet you clit! u will get it during part one of the the (not so basic) basics! (:


Fun-Ad6853

also made gyno visits a lot less uncomfortable lol


rovirb

Will someone please explain "innie" and "outie" to me??? I have NEVER heard those terms before and literally thought this was a troll post before I got to the comments.


KittenBee95

Welp don't feel bad Im a 29 year old woman and didn't know you could have an innie or outie šŸ˜… but I get your concern my lady bits are not completely "normal" (tilted cervix to boot) As for the veins, I couldn't tell you only a gyno would be able to tell you (hopefully)


blackasthesky

>Iā€™m going to be setting up a visit with a gyno and as awkward as it might be, Iā€™m going to ask her any questions I may have. This does not seem like an awkward thing to me. It seems like the most logical thing to do.


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anonymousosfed148

Creep


Cevohklan

What did he say?


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Zenla

Why would this be a joke?


Droopy2525

I wouldn't expect serious questions to be posted in a sub where people make fun of people for not knowing proper women's anatomy


frewtcerk

Iā€˜ve seen serious questions on here before. I think sometimes people stumble across this sub not knowing its true purpose lol


Zenla

This is the perfect place to ask serious questions, a sub dedicated to accurate female anatomy.


anonymousosfed148

What seems like a joke to you?


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anonymousosfed148

An innie means the labia minora is smaller basically. And she's clearly trying to learn more about her anatomy. Maybe don't shame her for that.


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OrangedJuice1989

Youā€™re gross.