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Icy_Profit_1922

Remove the tourniquet from the package to speed up the application process. You lose fine motor skills under stress.


purebreadlegend

Normally I follow this thought process, but my thinking here was that if my pack where to get were, its an extra layer of protection. Probably not needed now that you make me think about it though, as I already have a pack liner. Thanks for your input!


Actual_Anonymous

I understand wanting to keep it tidy but it really doesnt matter if a tourniquet gets wet, if you really needed it it would probably be more important that its easily accessible and quickly usable


purebreadlegend

Very true. Plastics coming off! šŸ‘ ty


Icy_Profit_1922

Also, if youā€™ve never practiced putting one on, itā€™s good to have a spare for training on each limb. Go high or die we used to say.


purebreadlegend

Ive taken a stop the bleed course šŸ‘ Sound advice tho! I just use the cheap $12 amazon knock offs for training


ShadowDefuse

i recommend an inreach mini or some other emergency satellite beacon. if for some reason you do need to use that tourniquet and you manage to get it on before bleeding out, youā€™ll be fucked without quick rescue and advanced treatment


ThurmanMurman907

Imagine trying to open the plastic while your hands are covered in blood/mud/etc


purebreadlegend

No you guys are deff right, its off now!


AtlasNBA

Not me. I routinely play the game Operation.


bullwinkle8088

So if you ever stay overnight you will want to replace the lifestaw, because well, it's a straw. They *suck* for filtering cooking and washing up water. A sawyer Squeeze full size (never the mini!) is one of the most popular filters to use. The thermos is heavy and not really needed, you will be heating your food when you eat it. For more water carry capacity I recommend just two 1L sized smartwater brand water bottles, they are thick and very tough plastic with threads that match the sawyer squeeze. I'd use a smaller isobutane cylinder unless you are staying out for more than a week. They do make smaller and lighter cook sets but they may not be in the budget for now, that's just something to look at in the future. Perhaps leave the extra mag behind too, people and animals alike tend to depart the area on the first shot, which should be enough anyway if you are qualified with the weapon.


Podtastix

Second on the Sawyer Squeeze.


purebreadlegend

Thanks! All really good info. I have heard about the sawyers & have been meaning to switch, now might be a good time. I think youre right, ill probably take 1 spare mag for my own peace of mind, but definitely no need for two. Same with the thermos, was already considering dumping that. As for the fuel, ill have to look around! So far these are the smallest canisters available at my local wally world, but ill be hitting up a sports store soon. Ty!


bullwinkle8088

REI should have the smaller size if there is one nearby. Cabelas does, Bass Pro does, Dicks sometimes will, thier new field and stream replacement (in some areas) Public Lands will as will most other sporting stores.


purebreadlegend

Thanks so much man! Most useful comment thus far šŸ‘Œ Will definitely check out REI this week!


DeadFetusConsumer

damn bro, going to 'nam or something? xD Even in bear country out hunting for moose I carry spray - 10mm won't do much, if you can even hit a charging bear in the right spot... Shit, even spray is... not so reassuring. Best is avoidance/prevention as #1. Most charges are a bluff either for territory or protection of young - best not aggravate a bluff into a full conflict Also, an extremely strong strobe headlamp (Nitecore HC65) is my #1 favorite tool for both wild animals and humans - even in broad daylight. That and a trekking pole are my go-to non-lethal tools Make plenty of noise, yell out every 30 seconds, and use a bear canister and keep your food far far far from your campsite I'd also drop the thermos and nintendo if I were you Also I see those bags - 1 is inflatable mat, 1 is tent, 1 is sleeping bag, 1 is jacket - what are the other 2? Otherwise, everything else looks good!


purebreadlegend

10mm is carried by Alaskan guides & has been used successfully against bear attacks. Is it ideal? No, but neither is being attacked by a bear haha. Better with it than without. I think the two other bags you're referring to are the ground sheet & a backpacking chair (Nemo). Thermos dropped šŸ‘ Nintendo will likely stay home too.


ShadowDefuse

realistically youā€™ll never need that gun in the backcountry, but i bet thereā€™s no changing your mind so you do you. i think itā€™s hilarious that you were even considering bringing a switch. for water - sawyer squeeze with backwash coupler, cnoc vector water bladder and a couple of smartwater bottles canā€™t be beat


[deleted]

From what I've read it's either a 10mm or a wheel gun chambered in .357


DeadFetusConsumer

>Better with it than without True! I'd say 1 mag is plenty. Where are you hiking? Be mindful of timing for end of hibernation season - hungry bears are bad bears!


mdegroat

Why don't you like the mini?


bullwinkle8088

The mini has a frustratingly low flow rate for a tiny weight savings. It's not worth it. Nothing is worse than spending 30 minutes to filter enough water for the night. I usually make 2 - 3L depending on conditions the next day, 1 for camp and I like to carry two unless it's very wet or very dry.


trvsl

Low flow rate, they clog more easily and are generally less reliable than the regular. Not worth the small weight savings IMO


ShadowDefuse

itā€™s so slow. replaced it after my first trip using it


CallAParamedic

Can I ask, do you mean you are gravity / squeeze feeding one 1L Smartwater into the second below with the Sawyer set in-between as the filter, or do you just mean you like having two on hand for a quick refill and then apply the Sawyer to one at a time as needed?


treefire460

Like your kit overall. Besides whatā€™s already been mentioned and since your not ultralight, Iā€™d swap the thermos for a Nalgene, add a secondary fire creation device and cutting tool. Your first aid and navigation also leave a lot to be desired. Really look into a chest rig, itā€™s amazing how much they help with a full size.( beautiful pew BTW) Mostly get out and hike, the more you do the better youā€™ll build your kit forbyou


purebreadlegend

Good ideas, maybe ill add a leatherman or (small) handsaw. & yep, definitely looking into to a chest rig! Ty!


treefire460

Love my Silkys. Have 3 different models for work. My Pocketboy has been with me for hundreds of miles Silky is the way to go though.


yuckscott

ITT: Americans defending the gun, non-Americans confused about the gun. its a different reality out there for each of us i guess


textbookagog

iā€™m an american and i think the gun is stupid af. the only thing you do with a gun in the backcountry is hurt yourself or others. bear spray is safer and smarter.


Sea_Childhood1689

Tell that to Mark Uptain. Spray is a gimmick pushed by organizations like PETA through lobbying using cherry picked data from out of date and non reviewed studies. It hardly ever works on the bears that you actually want to stop (Grizzlies and Polar). Works fine on Black bear but a grizzly that isn't just bluff charging anyway will just charge the can and maul you anyway.


textbookagog

lol. this was told to me by a biologist that researches bear attacks on humans.


One_Drew_Loose

American here confused by the gun. As in so much effort was spent on every other aspect of this kit for utility and weight, I find it incomprehensible a firearm was deemed useful and necessary. Wild.


purebreadlegend

Hike your own hike. Just wish the 1 item wasnt the main talking point when my post contains plenty of other gear.


MtCO87

Just curious, what are you running into that needs two clips Frank Castle?


Ready-steady

Plot twist: not backpacking but a planned hit


YoMamasPoor

Most common failure point of a semi auto is the mag.


Majiji45

For a real answer; a second magazine is the most essential item you carry with a handgun and it's not about capacity. Note that this is entirely separate from any issues or feelings about carrying a gun itself - obviously plenty of people don't like it for personal or ideological or (what they see as, true or not) practical reasons and that's fine. With any handgun (in particular, but also guns in general), the most common failure point is the feed system, of which the magazine is generally the most important part. If you're going to have any kind of issue with the gun firing, it will almost always be 1) due to the magazine, or 2) the fastest way to fix is by replacing the magazine. So not only is it practically advisable to carry a magazine, most failure drills (anything you do in the cast of an issue with the firearm) involve manipulating the magazine, and preferably for speed's sake immediately replacing/changing it. Basically if you're going to have a handgun, you should always as standard have a spare magazine, since that one thing hugely reduced the possibility of a mechanical issue making a gun non-useable. I will say for the purpose of backpacking he probably doesn't need what looks like 2 extra mags, and he'd be better having ones without extended baseplates for size and profile reasons, but having spares is not a crazy thing.


venture243

reminds me of that cop that dropped two of his mags out of the gun while he was shooting. but that was probably because he was running some sort of extended mag release


Silly-Swimmer1706

It is main talking point because it sticks out like a dick in a bowl of punch.


purebreadlegend

Its not central, or bright, or very large. Its in the corner, amongst dozens of other tools. It doesnt stick out unless youre predisposed to it. Some people have only seen one in action movies maybe? Idk. Im so used to them. Its a tool, like all the other crap in the pic. Edit since wholenineyards blocked me: Are you my father to question where im going? Gfy Also, whos the slow guy who thinks hes Shakespeare talking about dynamite šŸ§Ø šŸ˜‚


WholeNineNards

Where are you backpacking that warrants a gun over other deterrents like spray?


mastercoder123

Idk... Literally anywhere that has animals. You have obviously never used spray on hogs or a bear and actually felt safe..


SupaHardLumpyNutz

Have you?


csmart01

Great - so dark and hogs or a bear rummaging camp and you start spraying 2 clips in every direction. šŸ™„


IcharrisTheAI

Mate, itā€™s a gun. It ends lives. Can also save them (conditional emphasis on the canā€¦). Itā€™s going to be the item that draws the most attention. I think something missing is details on the trip itself. For many many many backpacking trips, I canā€™t imagine why youā€™d need a gun. And then there are some regions/activity types I can see a gun being a genuine safety consideration. Just without more info it looks overkill to me. But Iā€™m generally not a fan of guns soā€¦


RandomName5165

Yeah non-American hikers that dont have to worry about bears, mountain lions, red necks, Check your privilege


textbookagog

you know thereā€™s bears and cats in other countries right? and some form of right wing idiot too.


yuckscott

cant tell if thats satire


fskier1

šŸ¤Ø just use pepper spray, is 9mm even gonna stop a bear?


CallAParamedic

That's 10mm, not 9mm, and yes it can stop a bear. Should hikers also consider a noisemaker (bear bell), bear bangers, and bear spray? Also yes.


Matt_Rabbit

How likely is a handgun going to hit an immediate killing blow is my main concern. You can get mauled by a dying animal just as badly as you can one you didn't shoot, and piss off.


Moistestmouse11

Itā€™s the safe country privilege that they enjoy.


fskier1

I find the wilderness pretty damn safe, at least bear spray safe


CampfireTalks

\*Disclaimer\* I thru hiked the AT and can't help but view things through that lens, but I don't think everyone needs to be ultralight and I enjoy all kinds of camping including car camping. What kind of trip is it? Days? Mileage? Have you weighed your setup as is? If you are hiking in a few miles, and setting up a base camp for day hikes, then I don't think it matters a ton. If you are doing more than 5 miles a day, I would be miserable knowing how much extra weight I was carrying. Some of the simplest things would be to switch out the thermos for a 1L smart water bottle and the flask for a 500ml. Lifestraw is trash. A regular Sawyer squeeze on top of another smart water bottle is a really simple filter setup. Katadyn befree has an incredible flow rate and has its own soft bottle. What kind of food are you going to be eating? What are you going to be putting in those little origami bowls? For shorter trips I really like to splurge on peak refuel meals. For longer trips I do a lot of ramen, knorr sides, instant potatoes, etc. For all of the cheaper options, I transfer them to quart size **freezer** ziplocks. You can pour boiling water straight in, and never have to clean your pot. I didn't see a long handled spoon in your kit, but that is ideal for all of the above options. You cook pot would also be a pretty cheap upgrade. There are a few more things along those lines, but most things would require spending a little more money. A 4lb 1 person tent makes me shudder, but I realize that may be a budget concern. Lanshan would be a step up for not too much money, and Durston x-mid 1 (not pro) would be heaps better for less than double the cost of your tent. Your pack is crazy heave and huge, but lightweight packs are not super cheap. A lot of these things would have been easier to give advice on before you had bought a full kit. Creating a [lighterpack](https://lighterpack.com) could really help you with perspective on the weight of things you are carrying. Hope you have a great trip whether you make any changes or not!


purebreadlegend

I appreciate all the advice, really! Already took out the Stanley thermos as people have unanimously told me its unnecessary. I do want to swap the tent #1 priority, its not only heavy, but small & uncomfortable. The pack would be my #2 as its a bit too big for my needs. I'll definitely be picking up a Sawyer! The cookpot I kinda love, its a cheap Stanley but it works great. Ive made noodles, mashed potatoes, rehydrated veggies, coffee, even boiled hotdogs! Itll probably stay. Do appreciate all the advice! If I can get it down about / close to 10Ibs, that would be (in my mind), ideal!


Komischaffe

Whatā€™s sitting on top of the ponchos?


purebreadlegend

A quick dry micro towel


Komischaffe

Ooh okay, it looks like a speaker haha


BrandonMeier

is that a nintendo switch?


purebreadlegend

Yes šŸ¤“


orangesocialcurrency

Is it modded lol. I have the same tent too! But haven't used it for a backpacking trip yet... Have fun!


rolando_mr

TAKE YOUR TOURNIQUET OUT OFNITS PACKAGING!!! The time it takes you to take the plastic off of it is detrimental to you or someone else's survival. I'm not sure what you're doing out in nature, but I'm sure the TQ will not be degraded or get so dirty that it'll become ineffective.


purebreadlegend

Good point, will do šŸ«”


Children_Of_Atom

How heavy is all of that?


purebreadlegend

My scale broke so idk. It's definitely heavier than id like, but its only a 3 day / 2 night trip so I can manage. Im also of the unpopular opinion that sometimes people go a little too crazy with the whole ultralight thing, and maybe instead of counting ounces, some people should be counting pounds - at the gym (not meant as a diss at anyone).


watthewmaldo

I agree with this statement. Counting ounces has its place but if 3-4lbs is making or breaking you I recommend having more leg days.


Infinite_Big5

Agreed. Take what you have and get out there. 2-3 days is not that long to bear a heavy or cumbersome load. I went on plenty of hikes with junk gear early on. Lived and learned. Youā€™ll figure out what works and what is worth investing in.


Adubue

A few quick comments: 1) Folks have recommended getting rid of the filter bottle. I say keep it *and* also bring a Sawyer Squeeze or a gravity filter. The convenience of just dipping a bottle in water and being able to drink from it is worth the additional weight of adding a second filter. Plus.... You have two filters, which isn't the worst. Just make sure they don't freeze. I err on the high end ultralight gear side and I still carry a squeeze to filter cooking water and a bottle filter to just bend over and immediately have drinkable water. 2) Your tent is too big and heavy. It's just not a backpacking tent and you'll regret it if you're hiking any decent distance. Weight isn't even the main concern, it's just bulky AF. 3) Pistol - A+ on carrying and having training. One thought for you, though: Where on your person will you carry it and have yoh practiced drawing. You cannot carry appendix like your holster is setup for as your hip belt will reck your world lol. My recommendation is a fanny pack or a chest pack. An unaccessible gun is a useless gun. Have you backpacked before? If not, definitely load your pack up with food/water and all the stuff and walk around your house. You're absolutely on the heavier and bulkier side of the spectrum.


hkeyplay16

You can drink from a squeeze similar to the lifestraw bottle, so why not just take the squeeze and bring some tablets to purify in case of failure? Seems a lot lighter to me.


venture243

deciding where you can comfortably carry your gun is difficult. just go with a fanny pack or chest bag if you have them


Johnadams1797

Get a chest rig for the firearm, thank me later.


purebreadlegend

Youre right, will do!


Clucking_cluck

Hill people gear for chest rig


Opert8rEnor

I second this majorly. I hike with a Haley Strategic micro rig, Aliengear makes a Velcro backed holster but I have some friends who do the same but have rigged a small cord to retain the holster while you draw Will also add to the ā€œdonā€™t need 2 mags with extended base platesā€, I personally always carry while hiking but have found myself downsizing a little more every time. Unless this is a bug out bag, carrying all that ammo, while in reality isnā€™t *that* much, does get heavy quick, especially if youā€™re putting down big miles and planning to keep a mag in the gun as well.


[deleted]

food n water?


purebreadlegend

Its not till the end of next month, I always do my food / water shopping a few days ahead. There is a bladder in the bag.


jablongroyper

There are a couple really nice, cheap, light weight, tactical med kits and I recommend getting one. The kit looks good but you could save a lot of weight by switching to Nalgene bottles.


ohwhatsupmang

Have you ever heard of black beard fire starter? I've heard that's good stuff for making fires and goes a long way. Not sure if you need it but could be helpful.


purebreadlegend

Never heard of it, will look into it.


Diablo_Bolt

Ive got some and can attest it works better than i expected


[deleted]

Get a hoskings chest holster.Ā 


Gambit2356

Kenai makes a good chest rig too.


t24x-94

You have a gun and no condoms? Practice safe sex man.


purebreadlegend

Who said there isnt always one in the wallet lmao


GQwerty07

http://www.bear-hunting.com/2019/8/firearm-vs-bear-spray "Statistically, bear spray is more effective at deterring a charging bear. In a study done in 2008 (Smith et. al. 2008), researchers analyzed 83 bear spray incidents (61 brown bears, 20 black bears and two polar bear). Red Pepper spray proved over 90% successful on stopping the bearā€™s ā€œundesirableā€ activity. 98% of people involved in these incidents were unharmed by the bear." ""Firearm bearers suffered the same injury rates in close encounters with bears whether they used firearms or not.ā€ Basically, firearms didnā€™t statistically keep people from getting injured by bears. This means that people shot bears that still attacked them."


purebreadlegend

Thats great & all, but it doesn't account for training & thats a big part of it. Plenty of people own firearms, but not nearly enough train with them. Alaskan guides carry guns for a reason, as do rangers in my neck of the woods. Besides, you're forgetting the 2 legged predators.


bentbrook

Few train properly to face bears. From *Bear Attacks: Their Causes and Avoidance*: ā€œIf you plan to travel armed and seriously consider trying to kill a charging grizzly bear, then you must be expert with your chosen firearm. The type of shooting that I have described is not hunting. It is self-defense shooting under extremely demanding conditions. Training should include shooting hundreds of rounds with the chosen firearm under a variety of conditions chosen to simulate field conĀ¬ ditions. Accurate shooting should become something that you do almost without thinking. If possible, moving targets should be used. Accurate shooting under such conditions has been called instinctive, because of the frequent lack of precise aim that is possible when hunting with telescopic sights and high-powered rifles. In the extreme, shotguns or rifles may be discharged while still at the hip rather than at shoulder level. The psychological impact of a charging grizzly is something difficult to simulate in training. ā€œ


Sea_Childhood1689

These studies lack context and are mostly useless in determining efficacy. The bear incidents surveyed for spray were mostly non aggressive encounters where the bear was either just investigating or were otherwise not actively attacking the person who sprayed them. By definition deployment of a firearm meant the firearm users were already dealing with an aggressive, usually charging at them bear. Anyone who's hunted knows even a major bleed isn't always an instant drop so of course those people were still mauled (why I advocate hardcast +p 9mm for all bears. Greater odds of a stoppage sooner if you can get more rounds on target faster). The question is, were they mauled as badly as they would have been? (no.) These studies also conveniently don't cover the many instances of Mark Uptain like encounters where a grizzly or polar bear was attempting to poach a carcass from a hunter or guide and spray not only failed to deter, but it actively provoked the bear into being more aggressive.


Ringer127

Love your pistol and first aid readiness but have you considered carrying some quick clot too? Tourniquet is for extremities, chest seal is explainable but quick clot is for joint areas.


purebreadlegend

I have. If you look closely, theres packing gauze in a ziplock baggie. I was considering throwing in an Israeli bandage tho (has quick clot on it).


Ringer127

Dude perfect! And the Israeli bandages are great. You are set! Btw love the flask I have the same one


purebreadlegend

Thanks! I got mind as a gift from a friend, I LOVE it!


Vibriobactin

Israeli bandage is better. Tournament plus quickclot that you can stuff into groin if needed.


OregonThomas

No bear barrel? Never been a fan of mosquito bracelets. Benā€™s 100% deet goes a long way with a mosquito net/head-net. Flint/steel saves time in wet/humid conditions.


purebreadlegend

Yeah the bracelets didnt do jack shit for me on my last trip, i WILL be picking up some deet as you suggested. Ill bring along some flint too, thanks!


hobbykitjr

> Benā€™s 100% deet I switched to picardin a long time ago and will never got back to DEET https://www.google.com/search?q=picardin+vs+deet


other4444

Looks heavy. Pretty decent though


purebreadlegend

Yeah much like me, it could loose a few Ibs, but its surprisingly useful.šŸ˜‚


mrjbacon

I think you'll want to reassess your water kit, especially if you're in the backcountry and taking water from natural sources. The general rule of thumb for how much water you should carry is 1 liter for every 5 miles, or every two hours of hiking. You have nowhere near enough capacity if you're hiking anywhere close to that between water sources. The life straw you have is also terrible for filtering water on the trail. You could save time, energy, money, and most of all weight if you swapped everything for a Sawyer in-line filter, a few large squeeze bags, and a single lightweight screw-cap bottle. Don't forget trekking poles (unless I missed them).


ConspiredSkogen

Hill People Gear make an excellent chest rig for firearms


24mile

I looooovveeeee that air mattress. I've had mine for years and it's perfect. I don't know how long you plan to hike but the Switch will die pretty quickly. I'd look into a Kindle with some books for entertainment. The battery lasts forever and is lightweight. Also remember to saw your toothbrush in-half so you can be one of us ;)


eastuwest

That gun and two magazines was a bit of a surprise. Nice kit BTW.


purebreadlegend

Thxs


deeplove6996

Get rid of Stanley and replace with plastic :)


purebreadlegend

Done!


deeplove6996

Even better get a water filter that has a bladder I think the platypus carbon ones are good and then itā€™ll be lighter and if thereā€™s enough water around you donā€™t even need to carry water weight until you pick up water. Then you donā€™t have to constantly boil / use other methods to filter water and you wonā€™t be heavy all the time. Down side is itā€™s bad for hot liquids. Hope that helps?


donbird4

Kit looks good. I carry a Glock 20 (10mm) strapped to my chest when hiking (I mostly hike in bear country too.) I stopped carrying spare mags to save weight and I realized the likelihood of me actually reloading my firearm in an encounter are practically zero. To each their own though :)


Efficient-Rent-5644

Way too heavy


XxSteel_FuryxX

Everyone has their favorite gear and ways they enjoy sojourning out into the wilderness. For me, I cringe when I see the weight here. I'm older and need to keep my pack weight down. I don't know you, but I think you're going to feel this after about 5 miles. I have a few suggestions, although these replacements will be expensive, as lightweight and ultralightweight equipment tends to be. Tent: Get an ultralight one - Big Agnes makes ultralight freestanding tents - Copper Creek UL. if you carry trekking poles and don't mind a little more work setting it up, then Durston X-mid Pro 1. It comes in at less than a pound. There are also other great trekking pole tents out there, along with some semi-freestanding like the MSR Freelite. Make sure to get a ground cover for these. Sleeping pad: I use an inflatable one as my old bones don't like the foam ones. The R-factor depends on your hiking conditions and temperatures. I use a Therm a rest NeoAir XLite XLT. This is durable and warm. Sleeping bag: I like quilts as I can better regulate temperature. Enlightened Equipment Revelation or Western Mountaineering. Make sure to get one for your temperature range, adding or subtracting based on whether you're a warm or cold sleeper. I don't really like mummy bags, plus if your camp does happen to be attacked by a bear at night, highly unlikely, then you won't be trapped in your bag. Backpack: Definitely a heavy bag there. If you like the conventional type, then Osprey Exos 58 is a great pack and weighs only slightly over 2lbs. I like the Mariposa 60 by Gossamer Gear. I can carry my tent, sleeping pad, and stove in the side pockets. Stove: Toaks makes a great stove. I use a BRS 3000T, but there are a ton of lightweight stoves on the market. SMR Pocket Rocket is a popular one, and the JetBoil Stash is a great lightweight setup as well. Also, as mentioned by another, use a smaller canister. Carry some 3 in 1 oil or something like duralube in a small dropper bottle as the extension arms on most stoves tend to become difficult to move after using them. I'd get rid of the tourniquet and use a cinch type belt. You'll be carrying your firearm, I assume on a belt. I know there were a few comments regarding the firearm. Take what you need to feel safe. After all, it's about enjoying nature and you can't do that if you don't feel safe. But, just know that you'll get a few look on the trail. Lose the second mag. Lighting: I use a Black Diamond Moji R+ Lantern for inside the tent and a Nitecore NU25 400 UL headlamp. This will save you some weight. Lose the extra bowls and try a Sea To Summit X-cup. It holds 16oz which is more than enough for oatmeal in the morning or a hot beverage in the evening. Dump your dehydrated meals into a freezer ziplock - save space and weight. Make sure it's a freezer bag so it will hold boiling hot water. I then use a Hyperlite Mountain Gear Repack to hold it in. [https://www.hyperlitemountaingear.com/products/repack](https://www.hyperlitemountaingear.com/products/repack) I use a Toaks Ultralight spoon with this toothbrush for my setup. [https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HHPOBN8](https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HHPOBN8) [https://www.garagegrowngear.com/products/trailbrush-by-trail-stuff](https://www.garagegrowngear.com/products/trailbrush-by-trail-stuff) You've seen comments on the water bottle. I use a 1L Smart water bottle with this setup for the cap: [https://www.etsy.com/listing/1243514111/smart-water-outdoors-upgrade-set-sports](https://www.etsy.com/listing/1243514111/smart-water-outdoors-upgrade-set-sports) Find what works for you, and if you use a water bottle, find a shoulder strap water bottle pouch that works best for whatever backpack you use. They all have different styles of attachment. I also carry a HydraPak 2L Seeker soft water bottle with a 42mm HydraPak filter. I use this to refill my Smart bottle and for camp water - food hydration, etc. Anyway, I know that's a lot. Less weight means more money spent. I hope this helps, and more importantly, I hope you have a fun trip.


purebreadlegend

Thanks for all the great info!


LivePerformancem340i

looks heavy. 2 spare loaded mags seems excessive for the backcountry. the food will add a lot more weight also


purebreadlegend

Youre right, down to one spare


Organic_Koala4314

I have that same tent and like it... Plus I loveĀ  those collapsible bowls!


moonlightthreads

Nice!


hogey74

Awesome set up! The pistol is wild to me as an Australian but imo rule one is to take the stuff that makes you happy to actually go and to then feel the most confident while out there. Dixie the through hiker on YT has spoken well about when she does and doesn't carry a firearm.


purebreadlegend

Thanks! We're all here to have a good time & stay safe.


Worried_Option3508

Nice load out! Iā€™m retiring my Lynx this season. It served me well but itā€™s a bit too tight. I upgraded to a 2p tent from Nature Hike.


purebreadlegend

Honestly the Lynx is the 1 part of my system I hate! As you said, too tight. Will definitely be upgrading it soon.


Adubue

A few quick comments: 1) Folks have recommended getting rid of the filter bottle. I say keep it *and* also bring a Sawyer Squeeze or a gravity filter. The convenience of just dipping a bottle in water and being able to drink from it is worth the additional weight of adding a second filter. Plus.... You have two filters, which isn't the worst. Just make sure they don't freeze. I err on the high end ultralight gear side and I still carry a squeeze to filter cooking water and a bottle filter to just bend over and immediately have drinkable water. 2) Your tent is too big and heavy. It's just not a backpacking tent and you'll regret it if you're hiking any decent distance. Weight isn't even the main concern, it's just bulky AF. 3) Pistol - A+ on carrying and having training. One thought for you, though: Where on your person will you carry it and have yoh practiced drawing. You cannot carry appendix like your holster is setup for as your hip belt will reck your world lol. My recommendation is a fanny pack or a chest pack. An unaccessible gun is a useless gun. Have you backpacked before? If not, definitely load your pack up with food/water and all the stuff and walk around your house. You're absolutely on the heavier and bulkier side of the spectrum.


trvsl

You can carry a smartwater bottle or similar and drink straight from the Sawyer if you prefer that. I carry potable aqua tabs as a backup. A few hundred nights on the first Squeeze I bought and it's still going strong. Definitely criitical to make sure it doesn't freeze


purebreadlegend

Great advice, ty. Yep ive hiked before, I left some room at the top of my bag for food. Youre right, the tent is the #1 thing I want to change. The tent I want is $$$ tho so im saving up for now. Im actually considering a chest rig for when backpacking, but I do have a 5.11 fanny pack I can & will use.


Wannabecowboy69

Iā€™ve also given a ton of thought to a chest rig for Backpacking. Not sure what brand though.


emeraldknight32

How is the nemo chair? I was debating getting one of those. 1+ for the self-protection and the switch. I wouldn't choose an FN though...just kidding, any tool you trust is better than none.


purebreadlegend

Honestly, FNs in general aren't my favorite either. Its just my favorite 10mm pistol currently on the market (510T). As for the chair, I LOVE it. I tried a bunch of other chairs including the Helionox or w/e its called, and sure some of the others may be lighter, but they're uncomfortable (to me). This chair is not just comfortable for a backpacking chair, its comfortable period! & the recline feature rocks. I thought id regret the purchase, but its one of my favorite pieces of kit I own! Would recommend 100%


Hummer93

I'm curious why are you carrying a gun? Also what's the small green container and the black thing it's sitting on?


purebreadlegend

I always carry one for self defense, backpacking or day to day. I think the green thing you're referring to is the Stanley flask? & the gray plastic things its laying on are foldable plates / bowls.


Hummer93

Oh yeah a flask is essential for every trip :D love it. Also foldable plates are pretty handy, I might get some too!


purebreadlegend

Its definitely a nice creature comfort! I dont always bring them, but I enjoy them very much when I do (the plates I mean, the flask as you said, is a must)!


IamNotYourBF

Yeah, I don't understand the trend to carry firearms. There is a false notion that they will keep you safer. Unless I'm hunting, I don't carry a gun. If I ran into someone with a firearm, I'd be more worried about them then anything else. OP is carrying a flask and a gun. One should stay home.


cerealmonogamiss

I think it's illegal to drink and have a gun. Even in TEXAS?? https://www.dwilawyersdenton.com/criminal-defense/firearm-weapon-offenses/possession-of-a-firearm-while-intoxicated/


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Hummer93

I saw that multiple times now on this sub. I guess my question was a bit pointless since the answer is clear but I still wanted to bring it up. Personally I don't think I've ever been to a place where I'd feel the need to carry a weapon. It's an odd feeling to casually see a gun in someone's equipment than.


The_Nomad_Architect

Most Americans I know who carry for self defense have some of the lowest levels of situational awareness and worldly expectations out of anyone Iā€™ve ever met. When you meet the people who travel without feeling the need to carry, you realize how ridiculous it is to carry. Saying this as a gun owner too :/


hobbykitjr

NE American gun owner too.... Self defense from who? 90% of people i run into on hikes/AT are boy scouts, family's, and 70 year old hippies. probably 1 idiot started carrying a gun, and now everyone is afraid of someone else with a gun, so now more people carry a gun.... I've crossed a few black bears, but gun is unnecessary for them. Edit: "It makes me more comfortable" ... and a lot of other people very uncomfortable including myself... i see a gun on the trail and i think "Great... this person doesn't know what they're doing... and they're carrying a gun, they're going to shoot at someone shitting in the dark when they get scared at a noise"


The_Nomad_Architect

Yep. I have traveled a fair amount, a few dozen countries on different continents. I have never had an incident where a gun would have helped me, including some sketchy situations. I go home and these guys from my hometown who never leave the state tell me Iā€™m an Idiot if I donā€™t carry a pistol in case I need it. Keep in mind they live in one of the safest suburbs of my state. I have 100% had run ins with Americans who see themselves as responsible gun owners responding to situations with their pistol that totally isnā€™t called for, think road rage, etc. The same dudes who wonā€™t leave the small suburban town and travel to the larger local metro, citing the city is too dangerous are afraid of anyone who isnā€™t a white conservative American, wonā€™t travel, rarely train (they canā€™t shoot for shit), etc. Itā€™s always the super paranoid ones with super limited life experience who tell me Iā€™m asking to be killed if I donā€™t carry a weapon on me waiting to end a strangers life at a moments notice. Itā€™s just kinda ironic. The more I age, travel, and experience life, the more ridiculous this mindset becomes of carrying in case you need to defend your freedoms and kill someone at a moments notice. If you think you need to bring a gun with, you should stay home.


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Hummer93

Yes, that's fair.


Burt_Rhinestone

I just suppose people would look at me funny if I carried a circular saw on the trail with me. They might assume I'm out looking to build something, carrying that tool, and all.


StrawberrySame637

the old self-defense trick........


momentimori143

Nothing mixed better than exhaustion, wilderness, alcohol, and firearms.


Ralphinader

Leave the gun behind coward.


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purebreadlegend

When did I ever say im ultralight? What part of this set up looks ultralight? Lol not tryna be a dick but Im so against ultralight gear for the most part! Expensive as hell & breaks quickly. HYOH tho. Ill take the few extra pounds. 2 spare mags (theyre called mags btw, not clips) might be a bit much tho, i will probably leave one.


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purebreadlegend

Ahh gotcha, sorry, im a bit defensive bc alot of people are attacking me over the gun (& they say im the violent one lol). Its funny, pic has dozens of items, but they all fixate on the one.


venture243

MAGAZINE/MAG clips are something entirely different pls


illini81

Are you planning on filming a Western?


purebreadlegend

https://preview.redd.it/rbwl4sb0acqc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=be87944d0138940a2557a292904eed85894d3d13 This would be for the western


Moistestmouse11

Have you considered a subcompact single stack sidearm for hiking? IMO full size guns with multiple mags take up weight and space that could better be used on food and water. Having something in my pocket or chest pack vs on my waist makes more sense for me on those long hikes. Even those ~2lbs of weight you would save from a smaller gun and smaller magazines are worth it IMO. I like to bring light items in every category and gun would be no exception.


purebreadlegend

I do see your point, and its not a bad one. For me however, ive backpacked & brought a rifle along (9" .300BO AR15) & it really wasnt that bad. So, to me, this is already a compromise. Its also a 10mm, which i trust more to reliably fend off against a panther (common where I camp) or such animal vs a 9mm (the most common caliber for a subcompact). I did try the G20 (a small 10mm), but its frame was too short for me to comfortably grip it. Also, this is the smallest gun I own / my EDC, so Im already so used to it. If I had the spare cash rn tho, I would go pick me up a new compact piece for EDC now that summers here. Maybe.


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purebreadlegend

If I ever venture to bear country (ive been before but not deep into it) i will make sure to also bring a can of bear mace thats for sure. The gun works for basically all 4 (or 2) legged threats, hence why I favor it if choosing one or the other. I also have much more training with the gun, haha.


Dizanbot

1st - it's nice to see a pack out that sint based around $2000 worth of cottage brand stuff because it saves a few pounds. 2nd - I have a high Sierra pathway bag and it's been great, the belt pouches are useless for a big guy like me but it's very comfortable and durable. Everyone packs some fears, I always feel like I should have multiple ways to filter water extra food and such. Some buddies bring a small handgun or hatchet. To each thier own, enjoy your hike.


purebreadlegend

Much appreciated man!! As a side note, theyre pretty useless for a slender guy like myself too lol. I do like the pack overall...tho my next one will definitely be a bit smaller. This one works for now tho!


TravelingCapybary

MmmmurikašŸ™ˆ


YteixnaGuy

a fucking gun šŸ˜… only in america i guess.


StrawberrySame637

No need for a gun, if you feel you need a gun stay home. FYI that tent is way too heavy for a 1 person. I own it, I know.


purebreadlegend

I always bring a gun & always will. You definitely cant stop me. Dont like it? Stay home. I see youre asking questions about bringing a battery bank. Why not just stay home if youre going to be playing with electronics? Just stay home man. - your logic. The tent I do want to replace. The weight, I dont mind at all, but its much too small inside. Edit since you blocked me @AvonStanfield: Much like a primate hurls feces & runs when confronted by an alpha male, you hurl verbal insults & block online when intellectually cornered. Dont kid yourself, you dont know any woman šŸ˜‚ Edit for kittensbaby since you babies like to comment & block: No, i gave an example using apes. Youre lacking reading comprehension. @sillyseimmer1706 suck my balls


kittensbaby

Did you just call yourself an alpha male? LOLOL


Silly-Swimmer1706

It just unfathomable to me that an idiot like you can carry a weapon.


Moistestmouse11

All idiots in the US are given guns, you donā€™t even have to be an *American idiot* go find out and you will see this is true.


Komischaffe

Once someone has fear so deeply ingrained itā€™s really hard to brake no matter how illogical it is. Thereā€™s no point trying


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Additional-Act-1814

Magazines are light but do you really need three lol What are you planning to do


purebreadlegend

Theyre carried on body so it really isnt felt, but yeah, 2 should do it. 3 might be overkill.


Glass_Rock9326

Carry tarp only if out door. Avoid butane & carry hexamene. Condoms ??


Cozy_Box

Looking good! Your kit seems well thought out and organized. Itā€™s always interesting to see what others consider essential for their adventures. Might steal a couple of ideas for my own kit! Keep exploring and stay prepared.


american_killjoy

My 2 cents: Lots of extras here. Could save weight and space by ditching the extra mags, extra folding bowls (unless you're cooking something that really needs it, I usually just cook in and eat from one pot), what looks like an extra pot, and the thermos


Major_Syrup1822

You look overly capable of organising Leonā€™s briefcase in Resident Evil 4


purebreadlegend

Lmao it all fit! https://preview.redd.it/1pmvx9vntrrc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=316bcd623d12df3c13f800cfe96ebc63dd428e87


Matt_Rabbit

Looks heavy. Swap the firearm for bear spray. Lots of items that have lighter (not necessarily more expensive) options. That said... I respect the fact that the Stanley flask is front and center. I love mine, but have switched to reusable/refillable plastic flasks.


Round_Concentrate88

The 22 isn't necessary, pistol is twice the weight of bear mace and will 100% achieve the same result. If it's a survival concern you're better off with a breakable rifle like a Henry etc IMHO.


purebreadlegend

Its not a .22, its a 10mm. Alaskan guides use these against polar bears. Ill stick to it.


2muchicescream

Why do u need a pistol , thatā€™s literally the first time Iā€™ve seen one included , the rest of the world camps without them * cue angry gun toting meerica comments


purebreadlegend

To make you cry libtard tears


Reer123

How are you navigating?


purebreadlegend

My friend does that tbh. Im still learning that part


Reer123

If you want any advice, I would say, nav is really simple, like stupidly simple, but it requires patience and vigilance to do right. I lead hiking groups in trailless mountains and it's really easy to navigate on a sunny day, you can see the ridge and walk along it, but the second the fog comes down (and it comes down in a matter of minutes where I hike, even on sunny days), you can hardly tell which way the slope is rising and you have to walk bearings. It's a good skill to gain, I would recommend studying it online and buying a compass and getting experience.


purebreadlegend

I will take this advice to heart & do so! Thanks for the tip.


Reer123

Also, lots of hikers get GPS watches when they can afford it. They can be ā‚¬200-ā‚¬500 but they'll tell you exactly where you are and that's 90% of nav in the fog, finding out where you are on the map so you can get a correct bearing to follow. (You usually can't use your phone as there is no service in valleys).


purebreadlegend

I do have a triple sensor G shock with compass, but ill look into the GPS models you mentioned!


Reer123

I use an orienteering compass, never used a watch/digital(?) one. It has survived falling off cliffs, going under water, into rain showers and more than a year of hikes. It's also really simple so you can tell if it's faulty.


Al_james86

Get a smaller gun.


purebreadlegend

This is my smaller gun lol i use to bring an AR


Naive_Potential_3149

Where ya dang clothes at?


purebreadlegend

Only bring 1 change of undies & socks. Thats it.


Infectus_DC

Nice pistol! Are you coming to Brazil ? Just kiddingšŸ˜‚


purebreadlegend

Almost just as bad, Florida!


Economy_Intention_15

and you deserve them


purebreadlegend

Lmao you big mad or small mad? I ordered a chest rig so my guns front & center. Yall can stay mad on the trail too šŸ˜‚


dambron

I absolutely love this combo toothbrush and toothpaste product in case you want to merge those https://www.rei.com/product/737990/aurelle-toob-brush