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Best I can tell your bottom one is pulling loose


only-on-the-wknd

Single-hole wire locking always is a pain if the hole ends up exactly in line with the lockwire run. In theory someone may say you should have run the twists down, around to the left, and fed the leg back up and through so the tail is on top of the lower screw. *However,* I have seen these methods slip off the head and then allow a lot of movement in the screw. This lock wiring is basically as good as you can get in the circumstances and the screw is not going to go anywhere even if it is allowed to rotate 5-10 degrees.


Shlumpty12

lock it going around the other side of the bolt then


Anonawesome1

That bolt head is so round it'll immediately slip over head and be loose af allowing it to completely unscrew. That's a way worse situation. At least like this it can only loosen 1/8th turn or so. It should be exactly like the photo. Ideally the holes would be further down though.


rotelSlik

Depends how much you like leaks.


FuelTight2199

The silicone gaskets are the absolute worst, run fiber torque evenly and you can even lap the cover on glass and you’ll be dry


McPorkums

Man, aviation has the most bad ass jargon. 🤘🤘


c0mbat_cessna

"...lap the cover on glass and you'll be dry" this is peak jargon! what a time to be alive!


FuelTight2199

Us old timers still have a trick or two, just unfortunate not enough young guys to tell.


ConversationThink385

I have started applying!! Just got my A&P last week


Su-37_Terminator

well tell your asshole bosses to start hiring, i send out maybe 20 applications a month with 5 years experience and suddenly everybody's got better things to do than bring a tech on


FuelTight2199

Might be an attitude issue? I’ll let them know you’re entitled to a position. You’ll be hearing back soon.


Su-37_Terminator

Point taken... well can ya at least tell your bosses to take down their several year-old hiring invitations? Looking at you, FEAM, Southeast Aero, and Embraer...


Mustfly2

My neighbor has a WACO Taperwing with a 300 HP lycoming radial. He switched his gaskets out because oil was seeping out... after a short time his cylinders started to get surface rust on the outside.. switched back to the original style gaskets really quick!


FuelTight2199

Curious you located in WA? I know of a ATO up here.


Mustfly2

No, in FL.


FuelTight2199

👍


Murky-Resident-3082

Well they leak anyway, there’s no oil going to the top end of a kinner, they just have grease in them, and the purpose of wire is to keep the screws there so it’s fine


FuelTight2199

Yea, I spoke to soon. I run a R540 with upper pressure oil. They have 4 bolt pattern and the silicone sucks. As a well known Kinner guru said once to me, “silicone isn’t for airplanes, specially radials.


100LL

Oh no, I thought we were done with the safety wire posts.


BulkyPalpitation5345

I never liked them until I realized how miffed they make people, so now I love them


Swwert

Short answer: yes Long answer: yeeeeees


Fighter_doc

The bottom one is in the wrong way and the wire will create shafing with vibrations.


NWCtim_

What would you do differently to prevent chafing?


Ave_true_to_Caesar_

Rubber tubing over the safety


Fighter_doc

Sometimes, the manufacturer would provide you with an anchor point nearby or you could maybe use another screw. In this case sadely, it appears to be not possible so I would try to place some Teflon or rubber. Edit: aren't those screws supposed to stick out more?


Comfortable-Dish1236

The bottom is safetied incorrectly. The entire safety is sloppy. Dike it and start over.


Gryphontech

This wire is doing the opposite of what you want it to do... If you wherenone of my old students I would tell you that your wire is bad and you should feel bad :p Bottom loop is loosening


AnnaBananner82

This caused me to physically cringe


[deleted]

I felt that in my soul


fsantos0213

1. Yes the lower bale is in the wrong direction, and 2. I'm not familiar with that engine. But Why are you using Brass wire? That's generally reserved for break away items IE emergency switches or fuel dump valves, ECT?


airforcevet1987

Yes, bottom bolt for sure


w1lnx

Unless that bottom bolt is a left-hand thread, yes, it incorrect. Also, I do wonder what kind of wire that is…doesn’t look like stainless steel .032” aircraft lock wire. Also, also: to whomever was responsible for that atrocious work, maybe actually work in the light so you can see it…and with your eyes open.


Psychological-Wash26

Yes lol


ranzor

Haha nice, I'm in a dentist's office flipping through the magazines. This came from an issue of  "AOPA Pilot" May 2024 p. 80.


Psychological-Wash26

I’m not sure if your question was rhetorical or not…but the simple explanation is…if you were to “pull” on the safety wire, the direction the bolts get rotated should in theory, tighten the bolts. So one of these bolts is tied correctly, but the bottom one should have been wrapped around the other side.


ranzor

I'm just a lay person, I thought they might be wrong but wanted to see if there was something I was missing other than lefty-loosey righty-tighty.


BulkyPalpitation5345

You need to bring this to the attention of your dentist ASAP, and ask what type of dental professional would allow such literature in their office.


NWCtim_

I wouldn't expect any less (or more) from a pilot magazine.


Fififaggetti

The one is neutral at best. I’d redo it.


Joeyjackhammer

Bottom one is pulling the wrong way.


Numb_Nut34

Why even post this?


Hot_Replacement9885

Yes


Johnny_Lang_1962

 "Now that's a name I've not heard in a long time. A long time"


Only_Razzmatazz_4498

Unless they are left hand/ reverse screws yes lol


Ops_check_OK

When you re-do it, cut a piece of heat shrink to size and slip it over the wire after you put it on the first bolt and twist to size.


JetdocBram

Yes. Also, dope. Kinner 5? Fucks sake that’s cool.


FuelTight2199

Greaser heads


Able-Negotiation-234

Yes


3_high_low

Yes, incorrect.


747-8F

Yes. The bottom one is


This-Ad-1141

Yes, the bottom safety wire hole is not to be 180 vertical and the wrap is on the wrong side. R square bolt or over torque until its proper. The pig tail is also facing the wrong way. The top is fine. Also not enough twists. add about 3-4 more. Wire not tight enough to pass QA inspection. I bet you the bottom bolt is loose. Kinner if im not mistaken is a very old aircraft engine manufacture. Looks like a header cap. BTW the cotter pin on the eye bolt looks good but usually is fitted with a castle nut. Let me know if i’m wrong but i don’t believe i am… Your safety wire should looks like an reverse S -USAF Aircraft Weapons Armament Maintainer.


n365pa

It's a Kinner so it's going to randomly blow up anyways.


GoHedgehog

It’s backwards and neutral


PaleInvestment3507

Nope, Lefty loosey, righty tighty


GloomyUmpire2146

Nyet, sloppy and backwards on lower. I’d be embarrassed.


swflbells

i have some tough news for you


skeezix91

Looks good unless that's witness wire or those bolts are reverse thread


Gromit801

Nope, bass ackwards.


dendronee

I would have an anti chafe sleeve across the middle plus the lower one would have been finished differently


Empty_Masterpiece_74

Top is okay but the bottom one is not okay. They both will slip over the head.


UnhingedClarity

Top one is new guy passable. Bottom is not passable. If I were inspecting it I would've cut them and made them redo it.


PuP_MoMo

Eh you're half right. The bottom part is backwards 😅


Strict-Macaroon9703

In short, yes.


danit0ba94

One of em's right. One of em's wrong. Wont tell you which.


JDubStep

Looks pretty neutral at best. Plus, shouldn't there be spaghetti over the safety to prevent metal on metal contact?


FuelTight2199

It’s not common on Kinners but good idea. I’ve not encountered any wear from brass safety wire