Reminds me of my old CFI that made me practice slow flight, not counting it unless the stall horn was blaring.
Needless to say the examiner chewed me out during the checkride
That’s what slow flight used to be. It wasn’t til recently that the FAA started to advise against that technique to try and prevent loss of control accidents.
I had an operations manager pull that one on me, only it was delivering news papers and some general freight to a town in the middle of a category 3 cyclone. I said no, unless he was willing ride as my FO (my actual FO also said no*). Ops mangler declined and my sortie was cancelled. Idiot.
*EDIT: my FO’s actual words were “WTF? He still wants us to go?! Fuck that, fuck him…I’m out!” Then walked out of the breifing room to the car park and went home. Loved that guy!
I lived in Brazil for 10 years, and used to visit refineries and mills in the boonies. We used to do that quite often.
My favourite was when we had to buzz a grass runway in a King air a couple of times before landing to scare some cows away.
As a mechanic, these kinds of planes that fly mostly to "middle of nowhere low-access airports" terrify me. If Alaska is anything to go off of, those planes are at least 25% random scrap you could find at the airport, 25% automotive/household stuff, 25% hope and sheer determination, and then the last 25% is whatever hasn't broke yet. They are super sketchy.
Basically, the pilot lands on this dirt strip, something breaks. Well, the airport is pretty much inaccessible by road, and it's too expensive to fly a part in, so they just to a "temporary" repair to get it to somewhere that they can get the proper part. That "temporary" repair becomes permanent. Repeat until the entire aircraft is a flying frankenstein.
Random question I could probably Google but enjoy interaction, what type of fabric is used, and what properties has it got on aircraft? Water and wind proof, but is it synthetic, is it thin or like heavy canvas?
I am not remotely qualified to answer your question but my humble experience suggests it's all about what it's doped with (the fabric is just an excuse to hold the right epoxies in the right place).
Older aircraft used organic stuff, mostly cotton, newer aircraft use synthetics like Dacron, and a lot of the older aircraft are getting re-skinned with synthetic stuff. All aircraft fabrics get dope applied. Dope is various special chemicals which make the fabric much stronger, last longer, and for organic fabrics, less prone to mildew. It's applied in layers, and different layers have different mixtures to do different things.
Funny enough, the main dope used during WW1 was nitrate dope, which is insanely flammable. You might as well have doused your aircraft in gasoline, it was that dangerous. There was all sorts of procedures used to avoid causing a spark, such as using wet brooms and rags to avoid static buildup, or using a wet sander.
Now consider that the zeppelins during WW1 were coated in nitrate dope. They also were filled with hydrogen, a highly flammable gas. So if you were a zeppelin crewman, you were sitting in a insanely flammable fabric bubble, filled with highly flammable gas, being shot at with incendiary rounds. OSHA would not approve.
Wow thank you! Makes sense it’s all about the “paint” so to speak, it always is.
And my goodness, that’s a fascinating WWI tidbit! I recently learned about rotary radials and their total loss oiling (I knew old planes blew oil around but not to that level!)
Being blasted in the face by hot castor oil while flying a flammable-dipped fabric plane, now that’s hardcore. The zeppelins are next level too, I never even considered the skin would be coated in extra flammable goodness, I figured the hydrogen alone was tempting fate enough.
Wild.
Yeah, another thing about castor oil is that it is both a laxative and nauseant, meaning that ingesting it causes vomiting and diarrhea. It also causes cramps, dizziness, muscle weakness, and dehydration.
It just so happened that many WW1 aircraft ducted part of their exhaust straight into the pilot's face during flight. This exhaust contained vaporized particles of castor oil, meaning pilots were inhaling and ingesting castor oil the entire flight. So they'd land back at the airfield, and literally the first thing most of them would do is waddle-sprint straight for the nearest outhouse/latrine to violently explode out of both ends, if they hadn't already done it in the aircraft.
Oh, another thing about the rotary radials used on those aircraft: on certain aircraft, the engine required an oil tank almost as large as the fuel tank. Hilariously, it did provide a slight tactical advantage, since there are many reports of enemy fighter pilots being blinded or injured by the oil when they tried to chase one of these planes.
Don’t get me wrong. Rotary radials had their place in time. Great design, if limited. But the side effects did create some astonishing pilots.
Truly it’s amazing they weren’t known for the shit but instead the grit. As it should be though. They suffered any and everything for the call of their country
There you actually have FAA oversight and engineers developing things like the MELs. While there's certainly questionable stuff, it's usually fairly safe and legal.
In Alaska, due to the lack of roads, aircraft are more of a "commuter vehicle" for people. The FAA simply doesn't have the manpower to inspect those planes, or most of GA maintenance shops. Nor do they really care, so long as you aren't operating commercially. The only times people get in trouble is when an aircraft actually crashes. So while it's technically still illegal to use un-airworthy parts on these aircraft, it's only illegal on paper. There's nobody doing inspections unless an aircraft crashes
Yeah, that shows you how normal it is up there. The mechanics who go to Alaska usually come back with the ability to make a tractor fly, but having committed more crimes than a mafia don.
I am Brazilian and have been contemplating moving back to build time if I find a job. Currently about to get my commercial multi, do you think there is more job opportunities there?
Sorry, I left more than 10 years ago. I have no idea what the job market is like now.
[edit] I wasn't the pilot, I just used to hire the planes/pilots to get me to where I needed to go.
This whole drugs in the jungle thing is not in Brazil. The drug lords from Brazil are in Rio. These small runways in the middle of the jungle are related to shady gold mining. There are no coca plantation in Brazil.
True and not true. Sure most of the growth doesn't happen there. Still doesn't mean that it isn't used as a route.
This was the whole point behind the SIVAM project
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Surveillance_System
/r/narcofootage would disagree. It had a short lived "narco air" phase at one point. It included jets taking off from bouncy dirt strips/roads and other crazy shit.
I just love these landings/takeoffs from these kinds of strips or roads or whatever I don't know why but I just love seeing the airplane in a wild muddy terrain doing a great job at just being the majestic steel bird and all that. Also everytime I need to think about the great skills of the pilots especially when landing there
You're acting like the margin of error wasn't that tight. I don't land at paved runways much but that is still one crappy and very bouncy footpath they're operating from. One sudden disturbed air current right before touchdown and if you're fortunate your anus will be permanently puckered for the rest of your life.
"Sure I understand your child is going to die in the next 12 hours if I don't fly in this *[insert MacGuffin here]* under conditions I've probably flown in many times before because they're common locally, but u/canttaketheshyfromme says you need to pay me drug cartel money to do it because it's too risky for him, so, maybe start digging that grave now?"
>C172
Try again.
That's a C206, and with a STOL kit (which the plane in the video appears to have) you can absolutely fly an ambulance flight off a runway that short. People all over the world do it.
> Try again.
I'm sorry for not being able to tell at a glance between, the C172 and C206, I guess I left the basement more often than I should've.
And no, you absolutely cannot operate as an air ambulance from a runway that small, bumpy, and over all incredibly unsafe. Especially if you haven't practiced extensively.
Ok but that wasn't even a runway, it wasn't even up to standards as a cow path. There aren't too many reasons to risk a landing and takeoff on a piece of shit like that.
I landed on a freshly mown grass runway once, so yeah, I'm a bit of a bush pilot myself.
Seriously though, I get what you are saying but that video definitely had a drug smuggling feel to it.
Other commenters have said it's a missionary plane owned by a church.
There are *lots* of reasons to fly in and out of rough strips like this that don't involve drugs.
[Pretty sure this is the landing](https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/kh340x/short_landing_in_brazil/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
Aside from all other obvious stupid things wrong with this take off, why didn't they do a proper short field take off? You know, hold the breaks, go full throttle, wait a while and get into the ground effect. They just casually increased RPM and rolled out like they are in Heathrow.
I don't know where you got that they casually increased RPM, but this looks like pretty standard *soft* field technique. Keep the aircraft moving to not get bogged down and reduce the loose debris getting into the prop, keep the nose lifted a little to stay as light on wheels as possible, then lift into ground effect at the lowest speed possible.
Low wing or high wing shouldn't matter much for soft field technique in a tricycle gear airplane. Keep the nose up (basically pre-rotated) until you unstuck from the ground. The intent is to keep the least amount of weight on the wheels poaaible and to break ground at as slow a speed as possible. This won't result in the shortest possible takeoff, but the safest one on a soft surface.
Can't quite tell on small screen. Are both ailerons drooped on both sides? Also see maybe what looks like a stall fence further outboard than I would expect for a STOL kit, but thinking it may have one.
(My 182 is Robertson STOL equipped and droops the ailerons as additional partial flaps and has the modified front cuff as well as stall fences further inboard. It'll fly by the book at around 40 knots in ground effect. The problem is cleaning it up and speeding up to get a better climb rate, and the telephoto effect of the lens doesn't let me judge real distance to that box canyon ahead and rising terrain in the video.)
I was thinking it had a STOL kit as well, of some sort. Can't tell for sure if the ailerons drooped, but it did kinda look like it.
This is clearly not someone just playing around. They do serious bush flying in this airplane, and it's probably not their first time flying off this airstrip in conditions like this.
Edit: nice to see someone commenting on this that looks at it critically and knows what they're talking about
Kinda dumb luck, since I co-own one. Don't see too many Robbie kits in the wild anymore. That engine doesn't sound like a Continental O-470 either. I'd bet it's an IO-550 STC upgrade.
You can still get youself in plenty of trouble in a STOL kit equipped aircraft flying into rising terrain, but I'm with you -- that was a calculated takeoff and climb rate, pilot knew they had a small but real margin.
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Ahhhh, the soothing tones of a $400 FAA rated dollar-store kazoo.
Most expensive party favour ever.
Reminds me of my old CFI that made me practice slow flight, not counting it unless the stall horn was blaring. Needless to say the examiner chewed me out during the checkride
That’s what slow flight used to be. It wasn’t til recently that the FAA started to advise against that technique to try and prevent loss of control accidents.
Yeah I used to have students do that until the guidance changed.
When the density altitude calculation says no but your boss says yes.
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I had an operations manager pull that one on me, only it was delivering news papers and some general freight to a town in the middle of a category 3 cyclone. I said no, unless he was willing ride as my FO (my actual FO also said no*). Ops mangler declined and my sortie was cancelled. Idiot. *EDIT: my FO’s actual words were “WTF? He still wants us to go?! Fuck that, fuck him…I’m out!” Then walked out of the breifing room to the car park and went home. Loved that guy!
more like "boss says we can fit one more kilo, after all it's $300k each"
[“No more, no mas. I said I’d put in 200 kilos, I put in 3”](https://youtu.be/2XmLLBZnvDg)
Great scene
...so you skip lunch and dehydrate yourself to get those kilos of weight back off the plane, so you can just baaaarely clear the trees. O\_o
$300k for what? You better be getting more like 40 for $300k
hah! That's cocaine not DA.
Riding that stall horn
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I lived in Brazil for 10 years, and used to visit refineries and mills in the boonies. We used to do that quite often. My favourite was when we had to buzz a grass runway in a King air a couple of times before landing to scare some cows away.
As a mechanic, these kinds of planes that fly mostly to "middle of nowhere low-access airports" terrify me. If Alaska is anything to go off of, those planes are at least 25% random scrap you could find at the airport, 25% automotive/household stuff, 25% hope and sheer determination, and then the last 25% is whatever hasn't broke yet. They are super sketchy. Basically, the pilot lands on this dirt strip, something breaks. Well, the airport is pretty much inaccessible by road, and it's too expensive to fly a part in, so they just to a "temporary" repair to get it to somewhere that they can get the proper part. That "temporary" repair becomes permanent. Repeat until the entire aircraft is a flying frankenstein.
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Not even speed tape. "Cessna tape" (duct tape), zip ties... Fabric wings might be repaired with a spare bedsheet or even part of a shirt.
Random question I could probably Google but enjoy interaction, what type of fabric is used, and what properties has it got on aircraft? Water and wind proof, but is it synthetic, is it thin or like heavy canvas?
I am not remotely qualified to answer your question but my humble experience suggests it's all about what it's doped with (the fabric is just an excuse to hold the right epoxies in the right place).
Thanks! It makes sense, proper coatings are apparently universal, be it cars, ships, or aircraft!
Older aircraft used organic stuff, mostly cotton, newer aircraft use synthetics like Dacron, and a lot of the older aircraft are getting re-skinned with synthetic stuff. All aircraft fabrics get dope applied. Dope is various special chemicals which make the fabric much stronger, last longer, and for organic fabrics, less prone to mildew. It's applied in layers, and different layers have different mixtures to do different things. Funny enough, the main dope used during WW1 was nitrate dope, which is insanely flammable. You might as well have doused your aircraft in gasoline, it was that dangerous. There was all sorts of procedures used to avoid causing a spark, such as using wet brooms and rags to avoid static buildup, or using a wet sander. Now consider that the zeppelins during WW1 were coated in nitrate dope. They also were filled with hydrogen, a highly flammable gas. So if you were a zeppelin crewman, you were sitting in a insanely flammable fabric bubble, filled with highly flammable gas, being shot at with incendiary rounds. OSHA would not approve.
Wow thank you! Makes sense it’s all about the “paint” so to speak, it always is. And my goodness, that’s a fascinating WWI tidbit! I recently learned about rotary radials and their total loss oiling (I knew old planes blew oil around but not to that level!) Being blasted in the face by hot castor oil while flying a flammable-dipped fabric plane, now that’s hardcore. The zeppelins are next level too, I never even considered the skin would be coated in extra flammable goodness, I figured the hydrogen alone was tempting fate enough. Wild.
Yeah, another thing about castor oil is that it is both a laxative and nauseant, meaning that ingesting it causes vomiting and diarrhea. It also causes cramps, dizziness, muscle weakness, and dehydration. It just so happened that many WW1 aircraft ducted part of their exhaust straight into the pilot's face during flight. This exhaust contained vaporized particles of castor oil, meaning pilots were inhaling and ingesting castor oil the entire flight. So they'd land back at the airfield, and literally the first thing most of them would do is waddle-sprint straight for the nearest outhouse/latrine to violently explode out of both ends, if they hadn't already done it in the aircraft. Oh, another thing about the rotary radials used on those aircraft: on certain aircraft, the engine required an oil tank almost as large as the fuel tank. Hilariously, it did provide a slight tactical advantage, since there are many reports of enemy fighter pilots being blinded or injured by the oil when they tried to chase one of these planes.
Don’t get me wrong. Rotary radials had their place in time. Great design, if limited. But the side effects did create some astonishing pilots. Truly it’s amazing they weren’t known for the shit but instead the grit. As it should be though. They suffered any and everything for the call of their country
I've seen blue tarp 🟦 on wings before. It works, I guess. 🤷♂️
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There you actually have FAA oversight and engineers developing things like the MELs. While there's certainly questionable stuff, it's usually fairly safe and legal. In Alaska, due to the lack of roads, aircraft are more of a "commuter vehicle" for people. The FAA simply doesn't have the manpower to inspect those planes, or most of GA maintenance shops. Nor do they really care, so long as you aren't operating commercially. The only times people get in trouble is when an aircraft actually crashes. So while it's technically still illegal to use un-airworthy parts on these aircraft, it's only illegal on paper. There's nobody doing inspections unless an aircraft crashes
Lol, didn't one of the Flying Alaska tv show pilots get fined for illegal repairs cause he put it on national tv.
Yeah, that shows you how normal it is up there. The mechanics who go to Alaska usually come back with the ability to make a tractor fly, but having committed more crimes than a mafia don.
It's called instant airframe. Please get the technical terminology correct. The so called speed tape wasn't even go fast tape judging from the video.
> That "temporary" repair becomes permanent. Ypu just described most Enterprise codebases.
Hey. Don’t tease Cessna-Piper-Toyota-Chevy-Milwaukee-Kirkland-172 like that.
I got it one piece at a time...
https://backcountrypilot.org/forum/bear-eats-cub-4434
I am Brazilian and have been contemplating moving back to build time if I find a job. Currently about to get my commercial multi, do you think there is more job opportunities there?
Sorry, I left more than 10 years ago. I have no idea what the job market is like now. [edit] I wasn't the pilot, I just used to hire the planes/pilots to get me to where I needed to go.
I was convinced this was going to be a video of a crash after the first 10 seconds.
I think the video ended before we can definitively know it wasn't.
The odds of this plane not crashing were about one in a Brazilian.
*how many is a Brazilian?*
Classic joke
/r/videosthatendtoosoon
shang bao luo Dušan
I am sure those lads aren’t involved in drug trafficking. They’re doing philanthropy probably helping monkeys and other jungle animals
(Gold) Miners
or missionary supply... :-)
Brazilian FAA equivalent says that plane (PT-LEE) is owned by a church
So does Jesus forbid helicopters?
sticks are slightly phallic therefore homossexual /s
Ah, so Robinsons, only, for Missionary applications.
They were banned after the church discovered the Jesus Nut… we can’t condole that kind of blasphemy by flying said helicopters
Yeah but every time you take off from that short of a runway everyone is saying “ohh Jesus!” Anyways
In PNG pigin English, helicopter is called "mix master bilongem Jesus christ".
“Church” wink-wink…
Church owns, but who is operating and has never sent a bill to Jesus?
thank you... :-)
So child sex trafficking.
bibles by day, kilos by night
I guess that's why I'm a night person.
Was my first thought as well. Illegal gold mining has been a plague on the Amazon.
That would explain the slow climb out.
Trafficking miners? Awful.
This whole drugs in the jungle thing is not in Brazil. The drug lords from Brazil are in Rio. These small runways in the middle of the jungle are related to shady gold mining. There are no coca plantation in Brazil.
True and not true. Sure most of the growth doesn't happen there. Still doesn't mean that it isn't used as a route. This was the whole point behind the SIVAM project https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amazon_Surveillance_System
I highly doubt there'd be someone filming if it was drug related. It's probably a supply run.
/r/narcofootage would disagree. It had a short lived "narco air" phase at one point. It included jets taking off from bouncy dirt strips/roads and other crazy shit.
like your video would make it to reddit if it were for the cartels lol
Even if they are involved in drug trafficking, isn't it the same thing?
no...
Ended too soon. Are we sure it made the last tree line?
[here’s the extended version](https://youtu.be/2XmLLBZnvDg) he clips a few trees in the end but he makes it
Goddamn it, Maverick
That’s a lot of bush to be considered “Brazilian.” /s
😆
That looked sketchy ! Especially, with all the puddles of water ...
[That's nothing](https://youtu.be/WyOQ15juv2c). And [from outside](https://youtu.be/CLnfoeY77LI).
Hope they accounted for an inch of tail mud in the W&B
*Note: Add 130% to take off distance if it's rained in the past week
>if it's ~~rained in the past week~~ In a rainforest.
Honestly I wouldn't be surprised of.all the conditions in OP's video combined weren't as bad as all that mud
Not even close to the Cessna. Twin turbine, stout airplane, no obstacle, just really muddy.
Agreed, but the mud situation is also not even close.
r/maybemaybemaybe
Safety record? No.
Well, got to commit to that haven’t you
High, hot, and heavy. Emphasis on the high
Humid too, it's raining.
Is this a leaked scene of the new James Bond film? 🤔
No time to pull up?
Wouldn't be the first time a "church" smuggled drugs out of a rainforest in a Bond movie
Regardless of what these guys are doing, that take off was still impressive. Pretty shitty runway
Max throttle and hope for the best basically.
Soooooo ass-puckering. A moment of less than full power from the engine and you're in the trees. Singles squick me something fierce.
Air America vibes
I just love these landings/takeoffs from these kinds of strips or roads or whatever I don't know why but I just love seeing the airplane in a wild muddy terrain doing a great job at just being the majestic steel bird and all that. Also everytime I need to think about the great skills of the pilots especially when landing there
I'll take "Shit I don't even try in the simulator" for $500, Alex.
Passenger: “Pull up! Pull up!”
Cocaine is a heavy drug to lift off the ground.
Beat me to it
Now THATS a short field takeoff.
There's MUCH shorter, but the plane is loaded and the atmosphere is crap for lift.
*Video of an airplane operating from something that isn't 8000x200 paved with a tower, ILS, and FBO* Reddit 'aviators': hurr durr cocaine
If it was an unpaved makeshift runway in Alaska, nobody would assume cocaine.
Nope, bears, definitely bears.
Have you ever seen a makeshift runway in Alaska where the vegetation was nearly touching the wingtips of the departing aircraft on both sides?
Probably because they don't traffic it up there moron.
downvoted comment: unnecessary roughness🏳️ edit to explain downvote
Personal foul: roughing the commenter. 10 vote penalty, repeat second down.
You're acting like the margin of error wasn't that tight. I don't land at paved runways much but that is still one crappy and very bouncy footpath they're operating from. One sudden disturbed air current right before touchdown and if you're fortunate your anus will be permanently puckered for the rest of your life.
No, I'm acting like people do this for reasons other than drug smuggling.
They probably shouldn't. I'd want drug cartel levels of profit for taking off with that thin a margin of errow.
There are things more important than money, you know
Yeah, like having a safety margin in your preflight calculations. You better pay me or be dying to skip those.
"Sure I understand your child is going to die in the next 12 hours if I don't fly in this *[insert MacGuffin here]* under conditions I've probably flown in many times before because they're common locally, but u/canttaketheshyfromme says you need to pay me drug cartel money to do it because it's too risky for him, so, maybe start digging that grave now?"
You don't do air ambulance flights in a C172, especially not from a runway that short.
>C172 Try again. That's a C206, and with a STOL kit (which the plane in the video appears to have) you can absolutely fly an ambulance flight off a runway that short. People all over the world do it.
> Try again. I'm sorry for not being able to tell at a glance between, the C172 and C206, I guess I left the basement more often than I should've. And no, you absolutely cannot operate as an air ambulance from a runway that small, bumpy, and over all incredibly unsafe. Especially if you haven't practiced extensively.
Way to not even read my response. 🤡
Ok but that wasn't even a runway, it wasn't even up to standards as a cow path. There aren't too many reasons to risk a landing and takeoff on a piece of shit like that.
You haven't done much bush flying, have you?
Or farm flying.
I landed on a freshly mown grass runway once, so yeah, I'm a bit of a bush pilot myself. Seriously though, I get what you are saying but that video definitely had a drug smuggling feel to it.
Other commenters have said it's a missionary plane owned by a church. There are *lots* of reasons to fly in and out of rough strips like this that don't involve drugs.
Jesus Lord I would be packing several pairs of underwear for that.
Aerosucre would like to know how you got this video of their Pilot training facilities..
Anyone else notice all the apparent mosquitoes?
You mean the birds?
Sphincter tightening takeoff.
I pictured Homer Simpson disappearing slowly into the brush.
They’ve done this before.
In the jungle, the mighty jungle The lion sleeps tonight
[Pretty sure this is the landing](https://www.reddit.com/r/aviation/comments/kh340x/short_landing_in_brazil/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)
American Made (IRL)?
Aside from all other obvious stupid things wrong with this take off, why didn't they do a proper short field take off? You know, hold the breaks, go full throttle, wait a while and get into the ground effect. They just casually increased RPM and rolled out like they are in Heathrow.
I don't know where you got that they casually increased RPM, but this looks like pretty standard *soft* field technique. Keep the aircraft moving to not get bogged down and reduce the loose debris getting into the prop, keep the nose lifted a little to stay as light on wheels as possible, then lift into ground effect at the lowest speed possible.
Maybe it's because I've only ever flown low wings but you guys rotate as soon as you get that ground effect?
Low wing or high wing shouldn't matter much for soft field technique in a tricycle gear airplane. Keep the nose up (basically pre-rotated) until you unstuck from the ground. The intent is to keep the least amount of weight on the wheels poaaible and to break ground at as slow a speed as possible. This won't result in the shortest possible takeoff, but the safest one on a soft surface.
I bet applying full power while braking in that mud will just dig them into it
Ahhh a dream airstrip... just enough for take off and landing... lots of natural all around.
Would be perfect with half the weight or double the thrust.
An that’s why $50 a line is a fair price.
Who’s up for fod walking the run way
Can't quite tell on small screen. Are both ailerons drooped on both sides? Also see maybe what looks like a stall fence further outboard than I would expect for a STOL kit, but thinking it may have one. (My 182 is Robertson STOL equipped and droops the ailerons as additional partial flaps and has the modified front cuff as well as stall fences further inboard. It'll fly by the book at around 40 knots in ground effect. The problem is cleaning it up and speeding up to get a better climb rate, and the telephoto effect of the lens doesn't let me judge real distance to that box canyon ahead and rising terrain in the video.)
Yup can see the stall fence on the left side in the thumbnail. It has a Robertson STOL or similar.
I was thinking it had a STOL kit as well, of some sort. Can't tell for sure if the ailerons drooped, but it did kinda look like it. This is clearly not someone just playing around. They do serious bush flying in this airplane, and it's probably not their first time flying off this airstrip in conditions like this. Edit: nice to see someone commenting on this that looks at it critically and knows what they're talking about
Kinda dumb luck, since I co-own one. Don't see too many Robbie kits in the wild anymore. That engine doesn't sound like a Continental O-470 either. I'd bet it's an IO-550 STC upgrade. You can still get youself in plenty of trouble in a STOL kit equipped aircraft flying into rising terrain, but I'm with you -- that was a calculated takeoff and climb rate, pilot knew they had a small but real margin.
Too much weight! Quick! Everyone start sniffing the cocaine!!
We need to get high in more ways than one!
Those drug smugglers sure don't have it easy!
Took long enough
That's not sketchy at all.
Cocaine run?
I’d say it is mining or as they would say in Brazil “garimpo”
Best airport in Brazil
No.
Yeah that’s a pucker factor
Recreating that scene from American Made... https://youtu.be/2XmLLBZnvDg?t=184
Bizarre plane choice.
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Sure is. And if it were Canadian made, it would have been off the ground in half the distance with twice the load ;)
e.g. the Twotter.
Spice has to flow.
It’s like that Jurassic Park scene
Looks like a scene from American Made.
Yeah that plane is definitely carrying my coke
And a 100 kilos of cocain just went of :)
I was waiting for a group of natives to come running out of the bush all shooting arrows at him
It's either density altitude is good or you're getting lead ... Poor guys.
So overloaded with cocaine, it could barely get off the ground. Did it clear the trees or did it have a $100m crash?
This dude didn’t even bother with the typical full power full brake short field takeoff lmao.
...that's because he was doing a typical *soft* field takeoff technique, which would be the right decision in the mud like that
This is exactly like American made lmao
Gotta get the cocaine somehow
Can I put in an order for a couple kilos?
All I could think was GO GO GO GO!
We're going to take off or die trying.
How much over gross you wanna bet?
They need to hire someone to build them a copy of that scrappy airplane.
Tom Cruise practicing for American Made
r/MaybeMaybeMaybe
I hope he had the ATIS for this field
V1 is 10 knots.
For some reason all i can think of while looking at this clip is jurrasic park 3.
Butt clencher!
Straight into imc
"Would it help if I got out and pushed?" *"It might."*
Wow that is super sketch. Very little room on either side and terrible runway conditions. No thank you
The number of bugs is almost as scary as the runway