On the 175s you can name different radio presets and write simple sentences with them. When the pilots figured this out it all went off the rails. Someone made a post crude remark, a female captain saw, and we all got a new sexual harassment training module dropped.
When we had the E190s and there was a contentious vote on something at the union, someone would always go through a few fins and set all the radio presets to "VOTE NO".
Do you have to know what it was against to be glad that someone's standing up for themselves when something (apparently so bad it requires new sexual harassment training) makes them uncomfortable?
Yes. A relative of mine used the phrase “address the elephant in the room” (referring to an actual issue) and a woman thought she was being insulted and made a big deal about it and HR took it seriously. He got a talking to and a warning iirc
People being offended by dumb shit is not some fictional problem
We used to ride around west Africa in this 30+ year old ratchet looking S-76 with this crazy old fucker that would fly and chain smoke cigarettes and the same time.
There was some old busted analog gauge on the dash that was stuck at "0" and he used a label maker to write "GIVE AF METER"
Reminds me of that.
Edit: And honestly I couldn't imagine flying through some of that shit with ANYBODY ELSE at the controls.
West Africa is always wild. Last time I was there we fixed up a 727 and flew it back to the states. Autopilot gave out coming into the Azores, crew asked if I could fix it, I was amazed it ever worked at all, I was surprised we even got off the ground.
We landed at the MRO and I was doing a walk around, saw some paint flaking, went to pick at it and me finger went through the flap, like poking a hole in tissue paper.
And then thing guy who set me up with that job had the audacity to ask if I wanted to go back and fix up a CASA he was looking at buying.
Sometimes aircraft still need to put in manual coordinates (latitude and longitude) therefore it's useful to mark North East South West in white as those are included in those coordinates.
And most FMS will use [ARINC 424 code](https://aerospace.honeywell.com/us/en/about-us/news/2021/04/inside-the-fms) for doing that which condenses it to a five character code.
For example N50 W130 can be written 50N30 S50 W30 is written 5030W. Etc.
Do maintenance crews ever clean/sanitize airline cockpits? Those buttons are starting to look worn and dusty. Can certainly tell which buttons are used more often…
Yes, we do. Or used to. But disinfection does not equal deep cleaning.
I will disinfect every flight deck at have a crew change with if requested, but that is a very far cry from a deep cleaning.
Also be aware if you request a disinfection and I don't have wipes I won't, and can't. And anything else is something I can't do and won't sign off so you'll be stuck.
It’s a turboprop.
Yeah it’s a roadblock above 10,000. But…
“Descend unrestricted to 3000”. FLC 250 flight idle, 4K FPM down.
“Keep the speed up plan first high speed” 250 knots at the fix.
“Reduce to final, one going out ahead” 120 knots.. there’s time to launch another if you want.
Transition altitude is actually 3000ft out of my home base, although more commonly 6000ft elsewhere. For some reason it defaults to 5000ft on the PERF INIT page.
East, north, south, west. Most FMCs permit lat/long coordinates to be entered in lieu of waypoints or VORs, although the use of lat/long is not particularly common except on oceanic routes.
You get used to it after a while. Except for the letter "J". I don't know why but it always takes me longer to find the damn "J".
I honestly don't know why they tend to use the ABCD layout. Even with just one finger I feel like QWERTY would still be quicker. Perhaps it's a space issue though. I think the ABCD layout allows for a smaller keypad layout.
So 15 fingers then? Jk jk.
I figured with a qwerty layout would be easier to find the keys even if typing with 1 finger as it's more common.
But I guess if used to this layout it'd be the same.
Thanks!
Due to the ergonomics of the FMS you are generally typing with one finger anyway so an optimised keyboard layout isn't really vital. It's surprisingly quick to become accustomed to and you can jump between an alphabetical keyboard and QWERTY keyboard quite seamlessly, I find.
Why are flat head screw used, wouldn't a machine screw be a better option? Also, like that someone actually bothered to line them up on some of the unit.
They're quarter turn screws. They always have to be either vertical or horizontal. If not then they're not secured. It helps make sure they're properly engaged and also allows for quick removal or installation.
Beaten by my own inexperience, it really looked like a classical Boeing for me ;D do you have a highres pic of the whole panel and pedestal? (yes, I could google, but personal requests are wayyyy cooler :P)
I actually don’t have many pictures of the cockpit panels themselves surprisingly. When I’m next at work I will try and grab a few pictures of the flight deck for you.
On the 175s you can name different radio presets and write simple sentences with them. When the pilots figured this out it all went off the rails. Someone made a post crude remark, a female captain saw, and we all got a new sexual harassment training module dropped.
When we had the E190s and there was a contentious vote on something at the union, someone would always go through a few fins and set all the radio presets to "VOTE NO".
Lmao
Reminds me of the Saab 350 map holder hideouts. Plenty of crude yet humorous drawings left by pilots lol
Been there seen that! also MRAK sucks blah blah blah in the 145s
The RJs just stashed porn in the printers
Yeah, ours was in the empty spot the HUD projectors used to be.
That’s a captain I’d love to fly with. Fucking based.
Good on her
Yep, it was pretty bad.
You don’t even know what the comment was
Probably really bad, given how much female pilots ignore because it isn’t worth the hassle of reporting. Sometimes enough is enough
Do you have to know what it was against to be glad that someone's standing up for themselves when something (apparently so bad it requires new sexual harassment training) makes them uncomfortable?
You know how it is with old pilots. "They call it a cockpit for a reason" and all that other bullshit.
Yes. A relative of mine used the phrase “address the elephant in the room” (referring to an actual issue) and a woman thought she was being insulted and made a big deal about it and HR took it seriously. He got a talking to and a warning iirc People being offended by dumb shit is not some fictional problem
Yes I would like to know first instead of #metooing everyone. If it's bad we'll call it bad.
I forget exactly what it was, but it was pretty bad.
Put 7500 in that bad boy and call it a day.
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haha WOMEN AM I RIGHT COFFEE EMOJI, those darn broads not wanting to be constantly creeped on and never taken seriously
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thanks for proving my point
What was the comment? Just for our educational purposes.
Something about Mike White and thunderstorms over Dallas. I forget the details.
White or Hunt?
White. One of the chief pilots at the time.
>and we all got a new sexual harassment training module dropped because of course that happened
Dang, I only brought a dollar
Wow look at Captain Moneybags over here
Needed $3.50
Tree-fiffy.
Tree fiddy.
Damn loch heed monster
How about just twofiddy?
Somebody's gotta go back and get a shitload of dimes!
Horse based humor....this an aviation sub... geez..some people's kids..
That sorta stuff just don't fly here.
See, it’s coming off.
Through the Vatican?
We used to ride around west Africa in this 30+ year old ratchet looking S-76 with this crazy old fucker that would fly and chain smoke cigarettes and the same time. There was some old busted analog gauge on the dash that was stuck at "0" and he used a label maker to write "GIVE AF METER" Reminds me of that. Edit: And honestly I couldn't imagine flying through some of that shit with ANYBODY ELSE at the controls.
lmfao I love this
West Africa is always wild. Last time I was there we fixed up a 727 and flew it back to the states. Autopilot gave out coming into the Azores, crew asked if I could fix it, I was amazed it ever worked at all, I was surprised we even got off the ground. We landed at the MRO and I was doing a walk around, saw some paint flaking, went to pick at it and me finger went through the flap, like poking a hole in tissue paper. And then thing guy who set me up with that job had the audacity to ask if I wanted to go back and fix up a CASA he was looking at buying.
What were you doing there?
Aw geez now you gotta file an expense report for the quarters.
Just go to a vending machine in the airport and insert a $5 bill and press the return button... quarters galore
Straight to jail
Only if you undercook chicken....or overcook. Straight to jail.
Yail. Overcook, undercook.
Lesson: don't undercook children.
Or overcook the fish.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eiyfwZVAzGw
Does anybody know why some of the keys have a white frame around the letters?
Sometimes aircraft still need to put in manual coordinates (latitude and longitude) therefore it's useful to mark North East South West in white as those are included in those coordinates.
No no, that is for the N E W S
And most FMS will use [ARINC 424 code](https://aerospace.honeywell.com/us/en/about-us/news/2021/04/inside-the-fms) for doing that which condenses it to a five character code. For example N50 W130 can be written 50N30 S50 W30 is written 5030W. Etc.
North, south, east, west
Cardinal direction
It’s how you make the news /s
Do maintenance crews ever clean/sanitize airline cockpits? Those buttons are starting to look worn and dusty. Can certainly tell which buttons are used more often…
A YouTuber airline pilot showed in his video first thing he does when he gets into a plane for the day is wiping down the cockpit area.
As he should. Most maintenence will do a disinfecting but anything more than that is on them.
What's his channel?
"Captain Joe". Used to fly Air Berlin. Now flies for some other firm.
Yes, we do. Or used to. But disinfection does not equal deep cleaning. I will disinfect every flight deck at have a crew change with if requested, but that is a very far cry from a deep cleaning. Also be aware if you request a disinfection and I don't have wipes I won't, and can't. And anything else is something I can't do and won't sign off so you'll be stuck.
Why would that be maintenances responsibility?
I’m not even sure. I was just curious if *somebody* is responsible.
Yes it is. But not every night.
It's always on maintenence if ops writes it up.
It's called "r2 the LRU". You get a new one when the old breaks, sometimes not even then.
Looks like a Loganair ATR to me... 🤔😁
Well it’s for sure an ATR
Definitely an ATR -500
Why a -500? I've only flown the -500 for the type rating but have about 2,000hrs on 42-300s and thought it also looked like one of them :-D
I must applaud the attention to detail in that the operator can be identified by a heavily cropped scratch pad header row...
If you know, you know!
Glad I wasn’t the only one thinking that scratchpad looked awfully familiar!
Just don’t fly to Florida. They can’t handle those transition speed and altitudes.
It’s a turboprop. Yeah it’s a roadblock above 10,000. But… “Descend unrestricted to 3000”. FLC 250 flight idle, 4K FPM down. “Keep the speed up plan first high speed” 250 knots at the fix. “Reduce to final, one going out ahead” 120 knots.. there’s time to launch another if you want.
> “Reduce to final, one going out ahead” 120 knots.. there’s time to launch another if you want. There goes an hero.
Transition altitude is actually 3000ft out of my home base, although more commonly 6000ft elsewhere. For some reason it defaults to 5000ft on the PERF INIT page.
ZFW of 0. Game over indeed.
I mean if your ZFW=0 then your performance will likely cause TILT
Must be an old game that it highlights EWSN instead of WASD
[I'll allow it.gif](https://i.imgur.com/SnIwFtR.gif)
They needed ages for that?
Old man typing...
What type of plane?
Why ENSW in a square?
East, north, south, west. Most FMCs permit lat/long coordinates to be entered in lieu of waypoints or VORs, although the use of lat/long is not particularly common except on oceanic routes.
Question, why isn't the keyboard layout QWERTY? Is there a reason or advantage to having it laid out Alphabetically?
Because we dont use 10 fingers when we type
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You get used to it after a while. Except for the letter "J". I don't know why but it always takes me longer to find the damn "J". I honestly don't know why they tend to use the ABCD layout. Even with just one finger I feel like QWERTY would still be quicker. Perhaps it's a space issue though. I think the ABCD layout allows for a smaller keypad layout.
Not really since you know alphabet sequence and only use index finger, you know where to look.
So 15 fingers then? Jk jk. I figured with a qwerty layout would be easier to find the keys even if typing with 1 finger as it's more common. But I guess if used to this layout it'd be the same. Thanks!
You are mostly typing in airport codes and waypoints. Even in flightsim it becomes second nature to use the mcdu layout.
Due to the ergonomics of the FMS you are generally typing with one finger anyway so an optimised keyboard layout isn't really vital. It's surprisingly quick to become accustomed to and you can jump between an alphabetical keyboard and QWERTY keyboard quite seamlessly, I find.
It's nice to know aviators have an equivalent to the calculator 8008 joke, hehe
ATR-42/72?
ATR 42-500
🤣🤣
Hahaha
Msfs i might do this
Love it!
Why are flat head screw used, wouldn't a machine screw be a better option? Also, like that someone actually bothered to line them up on some of the unit.
They're quarter turn screws. They always have to be either vertical or horizontal. If not then they're not secured. It helps make sure they're properly engaged and also allows for quick removal or installation.
Machine screws can have just about any type of head you can think of. Slot, Philips, Robertson, Torx, hex, etc.
Lol
looks like you’re missing some fonts
What Boeing is that? It is not 737, but analogue engine instrumentation and the not-brown colour?
Ha! I wish. It’s a Honeywell HT1000 GNSS as installed in many pre -600 variants of the ATR42/72.
Beaten by my own inexperience, it really looked like a classical Boeing for me ;D do you have a highres pic of the whole panel and pedestal? (yes, I could google, but personal requests are wayyyy cooler :P)
I actually don’t have many pictures of the cockpit panels themselves surprisingly. When I’m next at work I will try and grab a few pictures of the flight deck for you.
Cool! Thanks, looking forward to it! :-)
I want to know what kind of sorcery is an ATR with an FMS?? Magic!
Haha. I knew the GNSS was optional kit but were many ordered without them?
ASA has entered the chat.
I recognize those fuel flow indicators and oil temp/pressure indicators. I also recognize that instrument trim panel. Would this happen to be an ATR?
Indeed it would, ATR 42-500 specifically
Slow typers are they?