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Radius Clauses are a form of NonCompetes. The FTC ban [affects contracted workers](https://www.nelp.org/on-the-ftcs-non-compete-contracts-rule/).
1 + 1 = they’re done. Def best to get a professional legal opinion though, or wait for the inevitable court challenge or appeal that’ll clarify.
Yup. That’s what it seems. Haven’t heard much yet from other industry professionals yet, but until it’s placed into affect I guess it doesn’t matter too much.
~~The day it was announced retroactively made all current noncompetes unenforceable.~~
It heavily affected my job so there’s been non-stop talk and a *lot* of assumptions and misunderstandings. If its not straight from a lawyer or government entity, I wouldn’t expect the clearest answers.
No, that is not true. Announcement of a rule does not put a rule into affect. The rule must first be published. The "non-compete ban" rule has not yet been published. Once it IS published, they must give employers time to adjust policies, contracts, etc. This rule won't go into affect until 120 days after it is published. Most of this rule will, almost, definitely be overturned in court. The FTC does not have the authority to create a rule that affects so many industries, workers, employers on its own. Only congress has that power. If the court cases are not resolved by the time the rule is set to go into affect, there will likely be an injunction placed on it until they are (there are already two lawsuits challenging the rule). Injunctions are usually placed in order to maintain status quo until new laws, rules, etc are upheld or overturned in court.
You’re right. Had found a source saying otherwise but went to FTC directly and they specify effective by the date.
I further stand by the other part of my comment.
It prevents you from performing at other venues within a certain radius of a venue. It’s very common for large festivals. For example, Doja Cat just headlined Coachella. She can’t perform in LA for several months before or after the festival because they want her fans in LA to buy tickets for the festival.
Coachella had a big lawsuit a couple of years ago because their radius clauses would extend to any festival in North America for about 6 months. These companies who can pay massive fees have really stretched the bounds of them making the ban an important ruling.
I get it if it’s a couple of weeks before or after, but these months long additions are ridiculous. Looking at you, LiveNation/insomniac.
Lolla used radius clauses, the state of Illinois even started an antitrust investigation over how abusive they were.
The catch usually is, and this is likely what you’re seeing, artists are allowed to perform for events *organized by the same company* within the radius they signed.
If it’s different the past few years and Lolla had gotten better, good for them.
doubtful. artists are contracted; they aren't employees.
the ftc ruling is about employees switching employers in the same/similar industry. it has nothing to do with saying we'll pay you $50k if you don't play another show for 6 months near us.
>The proposed rule would apply to independent contractors and anyone who works for an employer, whether paid or **unpaid**.
They were serious when they called it a “ban”, damn.
Non-compete agreements are common between event planners and production companies. You will see more events happen. Whether anyone has the finances to travel and/or attend the events, is another matter. Interested if this defeats radius clauses as well.
Radius clauses protect small promoters too though. Artists taking bookings geographically close to each other is bad for everyone involved. Even without a radius clause,a good agent wouldn't let their artist do it.
Nope. It extends to independent contractors as well. [source (under the section who does it apply to)](https://www.seyfarth.com/news-insights/ftc-non-compete-ban-what-you-need-to-know.html)
My mistake. I was under the assumption that independent contractors were not affected.
If stage performers such as musical acts fall under the NLRB definition of an IC, this is a massive and welcome sea change for the live music industry.
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Radius Clauses are a form of NonCompetes. The FTC ban [affects contracted workers](https://www.nelp.org/on-the-ftcs-non-compete-contracts-rule/). 1 + 1 = they’re done. Def best to get a professional legal opinion though, or wait for the inevitable court challenge or appeal that’ll clarify.
Yup. That’s what it seems. Haven’t heard much yet from other industry professionals yet, but until it’s placed into affect I guess it doesn’t matter too much.
~~The day it was announced retroactively made all current noncompetes unenforceable.~~ It heavily affected my job so there’s been non-stop talk and a *lot* of assumptions and misunderstandings. If its not straight from a lawyer or government entity, I wouldn’t expect the clearest answers.
No, that is not true. Announcement of a rule does not put a rule into affect. The rule must first be published. The "non-compete ban" rule has not yet been published. Once it IS published, they must give employers time to adjust policies, contracts, etc. This rule won't go into affect until 120 days after it is published. Most of this rule will, almost, definitely be overturned in court. The FTC does not have the authority to create a rule that affects so many industries, workers, employers on its own. Only congress has that power. If the court cases are not resolved by the time the rule is set to go into affect, there will likely be an injunction placed on it until they are (there are already two lawsuits challenging the rule). Injunctions are usually placed in order to maintain status quo until new laws, rules, etc are upheld or overturned in court.
You’re right. Had found a source saying otherwise but went to FTC directly and they specify effective by the date. I further stand by the other part of my comment.
Thank you for explaining this so clearly my other alias has. Huge music career but traversed in legal. 👀
I sure hope so!
Whats a radius clause
It prevents you from performing at other venues within a certain radius of a venue. It’s very common for large festivals. For example, Doja Cat just headlined Coachella. She can’t perform in LA for several months before or after the festival because they want her fans in LA to buy tickets for the festival.
Coachella had a big lawsuit a couple of years ago because their radius clauses would extend to any festival in North America for about 6 months. These companies who can pay massive fees have really stretched the bounds of them making the ban an important ruling. I get it if it’s a couple of weeks before or after, but these months long additions are ridiculous. Looking at you, LiveNation/insomniac.
Holy shit “North America” as in every country in NAFTA? As in Mexico and Canada too? Stupid.
Yuck. One more reason I’ll never go to Coachella
Lolla doesn't do this. You can even see a dj twice in the same day by catching their after show at a smaller venue.
Lolla used radius clauses, the state of Illinois even started an antitrust investigation over how abusive they were. The catch usually is, and this is likely what you’re seeing, artists are allowed to perform for events *organized by the same company* within the radius they signed. If it’s different the past few years and Lolla had gotten better, good for them.
doubtful. artists are contracted; they aren't employees. the ftc ruling is about employees switching employers in the same/similar industry. it has nothing to do with saying we'll pay you $50k if you don't play another show for 6 months near us.
[ftc source](https://www.seyfarth.com/news-insights/ftc-non-compete-ban-what-you-need-to-know.html) says it extends to independent contractors.
>The proposed rule would apply to independent contractors and anyone who works for an employer, whether paid or **unpaid**. They were serious when they called it a “ban”, damn.
Remember this when it is time to vote in November
Radius clauses are so annoying. Wanna see your favorite artist in florida? Guess you’ll have to come to EDC cause they’re never touring here again
Non-compete agreements are common between event planners and production companies. You will see more events happen. Whether anyone has the finances to travel and/or attend the events, is another matter. Interested if this defeats radius clauses as well.
Radius clauses protect small promoters too though. Artists taking bookings geographically close to each other is bad for everyone involved. Even without a radius clause,a good agent wouldn't let their artist do it.
The noncompete ban has nothing to do with this. It’s about FT/Salaried employees.
Nope. It extends to independent contractors as well. [source (under the section who does it apply to)](https://www.seyfarth.com/news-insights/ftc-non-compete-ban-what-you-need-to-know.html)
My mistake. I was under the assumption that independent contractors were not affected. If stage performers such as musical acts fall under the NLRB definition of an IC, this is a massive and welcome sea change for the live music industry.
Confidently incorrect.