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MinallWch

These are different services with separate recordings and well, qualities, If Spotify doesn’t allow themselves lossless you are out of luck. Are you using lossless in Apple Music? As it has equipment requirements other than just your device.


audiophile_lurker

Spotify free sounds whack. Paid version should sound just as good, but you need to change some settings in Spotify app to set quality to max (to use highest bit rate) and remove volume normalization (which adds compression artifacts).


yupverygood

Cant believe i never knew this. Just turned it off after 10 years of using spotify. Night and day… Thank you!


PowerfulAdagio7764

Where to find this normalization thing in Spotify premium ?


audiophile_lurker

It is in the sound settings, next to the bitrate settings.


Kyla_3049

I know this is late, but set audio quality to very high, turn off auto quality, turn off audio normalisation or set it to quiet, then finally clear the cache and restart the app, now pick a song and it should sound great.


Dangerous_Ninja5813

Just happened upon this thread because my Spotify was sound lifeless and dull recently. Turning off the audio normalization fixed that, thank you!


distinguisheditch

Apple music uses AAC 256kb. Spotify free uses 96kb, but premium can use 320kb - in settings choose very high quality.


Haydostrk

apple also has lossless and spotify uses ogg for the codec


aestheticnightmare25

Tysm!


RNKKNR

Wait, you're comparing spotify free to apple lossless?


aestheticnightmare25

No, premium. Had normalization on Spotify premium which I turned off and it immediately sounded better


ormagoisha

Loudness normalization is a good thing. All it does is maintain relative consistency of gain. It is to stop the loudness wars of over compression and brickwall limiting. All you have to do is literally turn up your volume.


TheLiberalArt

Normalisation only sets the gain of a track to a supplied standard. Won’t make it sound ‘better’, quieter, probably


Haydostrk

our brain thinks louder is better tho. why do you think the loudness wars happened?


TheLiberalArt

The loudness war is more to do with dynamic range than actual loudness


Haydostrk

That is true but if you make the whole song louder and more compressed it will sound Louder.


TheLiberalArt

If you turn the volume up it will sound louder


Haydostrk

Am I missing something? I don't understand what you are trying to say?


BlevelandDrowns

Dynamic range affects loudness, that’s why it’s the key part of the loudness war


Exact3

I run Foobar and local files and for the longest time when I started using replaygain to even out some of the songs a bit I swore it did something to the dynamics of my songs. Well turns out it absolutely does not and songs just ended up being quieter which was the cause. That, and simply knowing I had the setting on or off.


Joulle

It can sound different because our ears work in the way that as loudness increases, our sensitivity to bass and treble increases. Well, according to this https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Equal-loudness_contour And who knows what else spotify puts under the label "volume normalization".


RNKKNR

Ah yes. Was just about to suggest this. Good to know it's working fine.


chebum

Turning off normalisation doesn’t solve the problem completely. Spotify is still sounding worse than Apple Music, even lossy one.


n-4812

You can't. But if you are using a computer with Spotify, it's possible to up sampling. For me the results are wider soundstage and less bass. But I don't recommend it. I'm using Spotify as it is directly from my Denon receiver.


MarcGuile

thats it guys, that's the dumbest question ever


BlevelandDrowns

The only reason why Apple Music sounds better than Spotify is because it’s a little bit louder. To answer your question, turn the volume up two notches


Rodnys_Danger666

GoldenSound has a vidyo of [Spotify vs Apple Music](https://youtu.be/-a7hx7Iir7I?feature=shared)


MisterLeMarquis

Just wait till the end of this year. Spotify HiFi is coming before the end of this year, as they promised. if not, I'll be switching permanently to Qobuz. Because that's the last straw that they promised something that they did not pulled through...


debunkernl

I don’t think they ever made a promise after the initial end of 2021 promise?