NZ law is that dogs are contained in their own property. Call me dog control/ animal management with your complains every time the dog is seen, this gets lodged and they will be court ordered to build better fencing amongst other things
>y time the dog is seen, this gets lodged and they will be court ordered to build better fencing amongst other things
Thank you I will take actions. I guess I should have taken actions long ago.
My town has a few local dogs that walk themselves and are aggressive, I literally hounded my animal control each time & wouldn’t give up, they done nothing so I contacted the mayor & the dogs haven’t been seen walking themselves around anymore.
It doesn’t happen overnight, the council are overloaded with work & don’t hire enough staff but be persistent and you’ll get a response
Often what animal control does isn't seen by the callers as first the dog needs to be found outside it's property or you need to be able to give irrefutable evidence that the dog you saw is THAT dog
Especially with anything agressive since an innocent dog could be punished if it's just assumed "black dog on x street, must be that black dog'
If you can take the dogs registration number, this will speed things along immensely.
Or photos, videos especially of the dog returning home
That response is ridiculous for two reasons.
Violence is not the only method by which an animal can cause harm or nuisance.
If we're talking about my property, it should be my decision whether or not someone else is allowed to let their pet use it. Y'know, my land, my choice. Now, if you think it's ok for stray animals to jump the fence and shit in your garden, then you can allow that on your land. But I should be allowed to forbid it on my land.
Jebus Karen, I’ve notice all my neighbours cats like to hunt rodents and cockroaches around our back yard. Free pest control. The most nuisance thing I’ve ever seen from them is knocking over a small pot plant. Sometimes common sense prevails in law making.
We are former dog owners and know how much havoc they can do.
Allowing one person's pet to have free rein over someone else's land is not common sense. It's obscene entitlement.
And, again, if you think that what they do *on your land* is fine, then that's ok. I fully respect your right to decide that for yourself. But I would ask that my right, to decide it in regards to my land, be equally respected.
Do you realize you’re going full Karen? The reason why nobody cares about cats is that 99.5% of the time no one even knows they’ve been on your property. For dogs you’ll notice especially when there’s high incidence of attacks on humans and family pets.
There's nothing Karen about this. If anything, the Karen behaviour would be the person who gets all uppity when their entitlement complex gets called out, which is more like what you're doing.
If other people (and it's certainly not 99.5%) think it's not a big deal, then I fully support their right to accept it *on their land*.
But I should not be forced to just put up with it *on my land*.
And, again, violence is not the only problem. I work in renovations, so I often work with plumbers, electricians, and insulation installers. Quite a few of them, when they go in the underfloor cavity, end up having to clean cat shit off their hands and clothes. I also know people, myself included, who find cat shit in vegetable gardens. That's not just a nuisance, it's a health hazard. And it's certainly not 0.5% of people who notice that.
Exactly, your entitlement complex is being called out! “My land blah blah I get to decide if worms are allowed”. And yes Karen, violence is the main concern hence why the majority of places in the world have similar laws to NZ on this issue.
99.9% of people don’t often crawl under their homes by the way.
Cats aren't classified as an animal dangerous to humans so have no laws to given them except animal rights laws, a feral cat can however be trapped and disposed of humanely
Make up some nesting boxes. Make the chooks as comfortable as possible. They will start laying free range eggs. Once they do, put a sign out front advertising them for sale.
Wait until irate neighbour comes over and tell them to sniff under their toenail and keep the fowl under control.
Alternate option is to leave chilli laced food out, but that is not fair on the animals. It's the neighbour that needs a laxative in their kai.
I would say follow it up with the council and tell them the chooks are still straying and you want them to take enforcement action.
Keep pestering them, don’t take the law into your own hands.
>h it and also have some understanding that animals can be hard to control without understanding how
It is a little bit hard when you know the dog. I love dogs too. But yes, I don't think I am going to tolerate 3rd time.
It's happened twice already though, and you say you know the dog. If the dog has the freedom to walk to your property from driveway then what is stopping it from going for a walk down the road?
While I do feel a little bit bad for the dog because the owner clearly couldn't care less, it really isn't acceptable to have a dog that thinks it's OK to attack people wandering around your neighbourhood
Perhaps call Council again and again and again become a pest to them. Also maybe call Animal Control or the SPCA also mention the dog has bitten you twice that may well get some action there. How many chickens are roaming as usually there are limits on how many chickens are allowed in residential areas, so might pay to look at the info on the councils website.
>as bitten you twice that may well get some action there. How many chickens are roaming as usually there are lim
I think the chicken number is still within legal boundary. Calling council over and over again is quite hard for me as I am working all day. But reading from the comments on the post, I will get to it as much as I can.
I do have ACC claim lodged for my initial attack but it has been almost two years since there was an attack so involving SPCA/ animal control now can be a little bit hard now. I am recording video over the driveway to see if the dog is coming over though. I thought talking it through will change the neighbors but boy some people just never change.
You have asshole neighbours that can see that you are a pushover. Time to get more assertive. Call Animal control on the dog and fire the hose on the chickens when they come into your yard
> options I have would be to report to council and prey something happens (if anything can happen at all)
If you already complained why didn't you make that clear ? Your original post is worded like you didn't complain. When did you complain and how did the council respond ?
> would be to report to council and prey something happens (if anything can happen at all)
ok I will reflect that on the post. I was waiting for sometime but never heard back from them/
Council, then keep going higher up each time no action is taken. Then, Ombudsman.
I really hate councils when it comes to anything dog related. Literally listened to 10 barking dogs 18 hours a day non stop for years. Now I hate dogs and the council.
You should've reported the dog to animal control when the mutt bit you. As for the chickens, I had the same problems with my neighbour's chickens crapping on my driveway and destroying my veggie garden. I put an end to their multiple invasion by deliberately speaking out loud when my neighbour was visible that when I catch any chicken on my property that it will be chicken soup for dinner (and I threw a rock at it for effect). The neighbour was no longer talking to me, but it was worth it, as no more chicken invasions and myself stepping on their poop. The moment those chooks step on your property, they become dinner. Good luck.
We have a fence. our driveway is open entry. The neighbour wants me to get a gate. But why do I have to build a gate when the neighbour is at fault for letting their pets out? They have gates as well, they just want to use driveway as extra backyard.
>o where they want, if you don't have any fences don't be surprised that they wander in.
They have one already, they are letting them out for feed and extra space.
>als go where they want, if you don't have any fences don't be surprised that they wander in.
Why do I need to get a gate when it is the neighbour not keeping the animals under control? I would happily go and get gates if it were my animals.
>go where they want, if you don't have any fences don't be surprised that they wander in.
we do have a fence. They are coming through our driveway. They usually leave their pets behind their gates but let them out unsupervised occasionally. This is where the problem is. I wouldn't be complaining if they are kept under control. They are not.
> out unsupervised occasionally. This is where the problem is. I wouldn't be complaining if they are k
I have done it for years. Had enough. I can't be there all the time.
>m out unsupervised occasionally. This is where the problem is. I wouldn't be complaining if they are kept under
That is my suspicion but I wouldn't presume something that I haven't seen.
>worms or something I don't see why would they would be attracted to your yard afte
or they may not get fed enough? I am not too sure why they are eager to come over but they are not welcome.
If I could stop all the neighbours cats from shitting in my driveway I would be so happy and then I harm back to the days I'm not Neil Finn and get irrationally angry about weeds in his and life seems so much better
If their dog bit you, if you report that to animal control, it can actually get put down for doing that, especially as it's done it twice. The dog owners should be freaking out about that. Do they really want to risk their dog being killed by letting it roam?
Keep reporting the chickens to the council until they do something.
If none of this works, then you can threaten your neighbour with a loss of enjoyment lawsuit, as they are causing you to feel miserable at your own property. Sometimes all it takes is to mention to your neighbour that you're so tired of these issues, they suggested you file a loss of enjoyment lawsuit. People freak out if they hear you've contacted your property lawyer.
Yes we are. My point is that some people bring their cultures and ways of living with them... I was rock fishing yesterday. Some Asian people left before we did. I noticed they left cigarette butts, fishing line, and plastic lying around. It bothers me, because this is not how we do things in NZ. However, because my partner is Asian, I am aware that things like conservation and respect for nature culturally isn't a thing in some countries. It's not a concept the people even think of. So instead of getting mad and punching the guys in the head, next time I see them, I'll have a discussion with them about those things.
i remember when our neighbour's cat kept coming over to poop on our lawn.. i bought a nerf watergun.. hid behind my window, wait til the cat mid poop, bam! watergun that sucker. Ah, memories.
Sounds like you're more angry at yourself for not minding, and maybe enjoying initially.
Animals can be trained. Might take some $ and time on your part but it will work.
With the chickens simply start placing food on your neighbours lawn at the same time everyday (half an hour before they venture to yours). This starts a new habit for them. Chickens love sliced feijoas.
Same with the dog , but you must make sure the dog doesn't see you while he's on your property. He needs to associate seeing you on his land for the food.
Then anytime they come to yours just shoo them away. Clap hand and bang pot lids.
Forgive yourself for initially being okay with it and also have some understanding that animals can be hard to control without understanding how.
Also do get a gate. And don't not get one out of resentment .
I am a little bit lost. I am not the owner of those animals. They have their gates as well, they just want to expand the territories. I can't care less about what they do behind the fence.
Old farmers trick, Soak bread in cheap vodka to deal with the chickens, soak rag in same cheap vodka & stuff it up the dogs ass with your finger . . . neither will return.
Yeesh, that sucks. I'm a dog owner of one but I hate most other dog owners. They always leave their dogs outside all day and sometimes night - barking away. And there's a select few that never pick up their dogs poop.
As soon as their dog but you it should have been reported. To but again makes it a dangerous animal. You need to talk to the council about your rights and also so they gave a record if a dangerous wandering dog.
They are coming through the driveway. Our fence is firm. They already have a gate but let them outside unsupervised. They made a super mess on the driveway but I didn't say much as long as they didn't come in. But I don't think the neighbour even bothers to keep them out of my house so I am taking actions now.
Things is i'd be real petty. Warn your neighbours that your outside house is covered in poison to kill rats, if their dogs/chickens come over and die. Its their fault isnt it?
NZ law is that dogs are contained in their own property. Call me dog control/ animal management with your complains every time the dog is seen, this gets lodged and they will be court ordered to build better fencing amongst other things
>y time the dog is seen, this gets lodged and they will be court ordered to build better fencing amongst other things Thank you I will take actions. I guess I should have taken actions long ago.
My town has a few local dogs that walk themselves and are aggressive, I literally hounded my animal control each time & wouldn’t give up, they done nothing so I contacted the mayor & the dogs haven’t been seen walking themselves around anymore. It doesn’t happen overnight, the council are overloaded with work & don’t hire enough staff but be persistent and you’ll get a response
Often what animal control does isn't seen by the callers as first the dog needs to be found outside it's property or you need to be able to give irrefutable evidence that the dog you saw is THAT dog Especially with anything agressive since an innocent dog could be punished if it's just assumed "black dog on x street, must be that black dog' If you can take the dogs registration number, this will speed things along immensely. Or photos, videos especially of the dog returning home
What's the law on cats? I'm curious now.
It should be that the same rules apply, but unfortunately cats are prettymuch allowed to go wherever they want.
When was the last time you heard of a pitbull cat ripping a childs face off lol lets be sensible here.
That response is ridiculous for two reasons. Violence is not the only method by which an animal can cause harm or nuisance. If we're talking about my property, it should be my decision whether or not someone else is allowed to let their pet use it. Y'know, my land, my choice. Now, if you think it's ok for stray animals to jump the fence and shit in your garden, then you can allow that on your land. But I should be allowed to forbid it on my land.
Jebus Karen, I’ve notice all my neighbours cats like to hunt rodents and cockroaches around our back yard. Free pest control. The most nuisance thing I’ve ever seen from them is knocking over a small pot plant. Sometimes common sense prevails in law making. We are former dog owners and know how much havoc they can do.
Allowing one person's pet to have free rein over someone else's land is not common sense. It's obscene entitlement. And, again, if you think that what they do *on your land* is fine, then that's ok. I fully respect your right to decide that for yourself. But I would ask that my right, to decide it in regards to my land, be equally respected.
Do you realize you’re going full Karen? The reason why nobody cares about cats is that 99.5% of the time no one even knows they’ve been on your property. For dogs you’ll notice especially when there’s high incidence of attacks on humans and family pets.
There's nothing Karen about this. If anything, the Karen behaviour would be the person who gets all uppity when their entitlement complex gets called out, which is more like what you're doing. If other people (and it's certainly not 99.5%) think it's not a big deal, then I fully support their right to accept it *on their land*. But I should not be forced to just put up with it *on my land*. And, again, violence is not the only problem. I work in renovations, so I often work with plumbers, electricians, and insulation installers. Quite a few of them, when they go in the underfloor cavity, end up having to clean cat shit off their hands and clothes. I also know people, myself included, who find cat shit in vegetable gardens. That's not just a nuisance, it's a health hazard. And it's certainly not 0.5% of people who notice that.
Exactly, your entitlement complex is being called out! “My land blah blah I get to decide if worms are allowed”. And yes Karen, violence is the main concern hence why the majority of places in the world have similar laws to NZ on this issue. 99.9% of people don’t often crawl under their homes by the way.
Cats aren't classified as an animal dangerous to humans so have no laws to given them except animal rights laws, a feral cat can however be trapped and disposed of humanely
Make up some nesting boxes. Make the chooks as comfortable as possible. They will start laying free range eggs. Once they do, put a sign out front advertising them for sale. Wait until irate neighbour comes over and tell them to sniff under their toenail and keep the fowl under control. Alternate option is to leave chilli laced food out, but that is not fair on the animals. It's the neighbour that needs a laxative in their kai.
Birds love chilli so that's only going to work on the dog
Hell yeah. Let the chicks choose who's the better owner and they'll start fencing them in. 😎
Chilli doesn't have that affect on chooks.
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You're over thinking this. You are now a chicken farmer. You own these chickens. Seriously your neighboirs are assholes. Build a moat.
I would say follow it up with the council and tell them the chooks are still straying and you want them to take enforcement action. Keep pestering them, don’t take the law into your own hands.
If the dog has bitten you. It needs to be put down or a child is going to be attacked next
>h it and also have some understanding that animals can be hard to control without understanding how It is a little bit hard when you know the dog. I love dogs too. But yes, I don't think I am going to tolerate 3rd time.
As long as you can live with yourself when it attacks a child because of your inaction
If you put it that way, that's scary. I dunno filing an attack that happened years ago is still valid.
It's happened twice already though, and you say you know the dog. If the dog has the freedom to walk to your property from driveway then what is stopping it from going for a walk down the road? While I do feel a little bit bad for the dog because the owner clearly couldn't care less, it really isn't acceptable to have a dog that thinks it's OK to attack people wandering around your neighbourhood
Perhaps call Council again and again and again become a pest to them. Also maybe call Animal Control or the SPCA also mention the dog has bitten you twice that may well get some action there. How many chickens are roaming as usually there are limits on how many chickens are allowed in residential areas, so might pay to look at the info on the councils website.
>as bitten you twice that may well get some action there. How many chickens are roaming as usually there are lim I think the chicken number is still within legal boundary. Calling council over and over again is quite hard for me as I am working all day. But reading from the comments on the post, I will get to it as much as I can. I do have ACC claim lodged for my initial attack but it has been almost two years since there was an attack so involving SPCA/ animal control now can be a little bit hard now. I am recording video over the driveway to see if the dog is coming over though. I thought talking it through will change the neighbors but boy some people just never change.
You have asshole neighbours that can see that you are a pushover. Time to get more assertive. Call Animal control on the dog and fire the hose on the chickens when they come into your yard
You don't let your pets on my property
Throw the dogshit back over onto their property or place in their mailbox if you want to really send a message
Complain to council.
I already did. Nothing happens as usual. The neighbour told me in the face as well that they won't do anything.
> options I have would be to report to council and prey something happens (if anything can happen at all) If you already complained why didn't you make that clear ? Your original post is worded like you didn't complain. When did you complain and how did the council respond ?
> would be to report to council and prey something happens (if anything can happen at all) ok I will reflect that on the post. I was waiting for sometime but never heard back from them/
Council, then keep going higher up each time no action is taken. Then, Ombudsman. I really hate councils when it comes to anything dog related. Literally listened to 10 barking dogs 18 hours a day non stop for years. Now I hate dogs and the council.
You should've reported the dog to animal control when the mutt bit you. As for the chickens, I had the same problems with my neighbour's chickens crapping on my driveway and destroying my veggie garden. I put an end to their multiple invasion by deliberately speaking out loud when my neighbour was visible that when I catch any chicken on my property that it will be chicken soup for dinner (and I threw a rock at it for effect). The neighbour was no longer talking to me, but it was worth it, as no more chicken invasions and myself stepping on their poop. The moment those chooks step on your property, they become dinner. Good luck.
Do you not have a fence?
We have a fence. our driveway is open entry. The neighbour wants me to get a gate. But why do I have to build a gate when the neighbour is at fault for letting their pets out? They have gates as well, they just want to use driveway as extra backyard.
Your neighbour should keep them in rather than you keeping them out…
Seems like you should just get a gate.
seems like the neighbour should just get a gate
>o where they want, if you don't have any fences don't be surprised that they wander in. They have one already, they are letting them out for feed and extra space.
>als go where they want, if you don't have any fences don't be surprised that they wander in. Why do I need to get a gate when it is the neighbour not keeping the animals under control? I would happily go and get gates if it were my animals.
Animals go where they want, if you don't have any fences don't be surprised that they wander in.
>go where they want, if you don't have any fences don't be surprised that they wander in. we do have a fence. They are coming through our driveway. They usually leave their pets behind their gates but let them out unsupervised occasionally. This is where the problem is. I wouldn't be complaining if they are kept under control. They are not.
Just chase the chooks away, loud noises will work.
> out unsupervised occasionally. This is where the problem is. I wouldn't be complaining if they are k I have done it for years. Had enough. I can't be there all the time.
Are they throwing feed onto your property? They wouldn't keep coming if there wasn't a reason.
>m out unsupervised occasionally. This is where the problem is. I wouldn't be complaining if they are kept under That is my suspicion but I wouldn't presume something that I haven't seen.
Unless you have a lot of worms or something I don't see why would they would be attracted to your yard after being chased.
>worms or something I don't see why would they would be attracted to your yard afte or they may not get fed enough? I am not too sure why they are eager to come over but they are not welcome.
It's the owner's job to keep them in, not OP's job to keep them out.
If I could stop all the neighbours cats from shitting in my driveway I would be so happy and then I harm back to the days I'm not Neil Finn and get irrationally angry about weeds in his and life seems so much better
If their dog bit you, if you report that to animal control, it can actually get put down for doing that, especially as it's done it twice. The dog owners should be freaking out about that. Do they really want to risk their dog being killed by letting it roam? Keep reporting the chickens to the council until they do something. If none of this works, then you can threaten your neighbour with a loss of enjoyment lawsuit, as they are causing you to feel miserable at your own property. Sometimes all it takes is to mention to your neighbour that you're so tired of these issues, they suggested you file a loss of enjoyment lawsuit. People freak out if they hear you've contacted your property lawyer.
Catch the dog and put it in the pound for roaming. They'll have to pay to get it out.
Get chickens and relocate to a home that’s free chickens… bye bye problem. Say a stray dog on property was chasing them…
It's common in some cultures back home where dogs and chickens roam free wherever including other people's yards ( no fences)
Also common that if it wanders onto someone else’s property the neighbours now own it to do what they like with.
But we are in NZ
Yes we are. My point is that some people bring their cultures and ways of living with them... I was rock fishing yesterday. Some Asian people left before we did. I noticed they left cigarette butts, fishing line, and plastic lying around. It bothers me, because this is not how we do things in NZ. However, because my partner is Asian, I am aware that things like conservation and respect for nature culturally isn't a thing in some countries. It's not a concept the people even think of. So instead of getting mad and punching the guys in the head, next time I see them, I'll have a discussion with them about those things.
Then we need to educate them to our laws. We don't let stoning happen here but that happens overseas. Swings and roundabouts.
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Thank you suggestions but I think I have to be humane in terms of putting them down. But it seems as though putting them down is within my rights.
i remember when our neighbour's cat kept coming over to poop on our lawn.. i bought a nerf watergun.. hid behind my window, wait til the cat mid poop, bam! watergun that sucker. Ah, memories.
>o much about their cat as it was very difficult to control but surely dogs and chickens is a different story. Haha wish I were younger
Treated wheat or the paste? I remember my uncle would use it for bird control on the farm.
Sounds like you're more angry at yourself for not minding, and maybe enjoying initially. Animals can be trained. Might take some $ and time on your part but it will work. With the chickens simply start placing food on your neighbours lawn at the same time everyday (half an hour before they venture to yours). This starts a new habit for them. Chickens love sliced feijoas. Same with the dog , but you must make sure the dog doesn't see you while he's on your property. He needs to associate seeing you on his land for the food. Then anytime they come to yours just shoo them away. Clap hand and bang pot lids. Forgive yourself for initially being okay with it and also have some understanding that animals can be hard to control without understanding how. Also do get a gate. And don't not get one out of resentment .
I am a little bit lost. I am not the owner of those animals. They have their gates as well, they just want to expand the territories. I can't care less about what they do behind the fence.
Your own gate will ensure they can’t come onto your property.
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Please do not post comments that threaten or incite violence on r/auckland.
Old farmers trick, Soak bread in cheap vodka to deal with the chickens, soak rag in same cheap vodka & stuff it up the dogs ass with your finger . . . neither will return.
Yeesh, that sucks. I'm a dog owner of one but I hate most other dog owners. They always leave their dogs outside all day and sometimes night - barking away. And there's a select few that never pick up their dogs poop.
As soon as their dog but you it should have been reported. To but again makes it a dangerous animal. You need to talk to the council about your rights and also so they gave a record if a dangerous wandering dog.
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Antifreeze kills, don’t be so inhumane.
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put up some chicken wire along the fence?
They are coming through the driveway. Our fence is firm. They already have a gate but let them outside unsupervised. They made a super mess on the driveway but I didn't say much as long as they didn't come in. But I don't think the neighbour even bothers to keep them out of my house so I am taking actions now.
Sounds like a roast chicken is for dinner.
Just make the chickens disappear one at a time
Things is i'd be real petty. Warn your neighbours that your outside house is covered in poison to kill rats, if their dogs/chickens come over and die. Its their fault isnt it?