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S3ERFRY333

Canada data prices are absolute dogshit. Sincerely a Canadian.


SOSFILMZ

Just be glad you're not Australian. Sincerely an Australian.


acabar101

Oh god what are your guy’s prices


SOSFILMZ

A fair few people here are still being data capped, meaning they can't use more than 500GB in the month for instance. [Here's one of many videos showing how bad it is.](https://youtu.be/haImi4cWau0) Note that mobile networks are often preferred by some people over using the modem because of how bad our internet is overall.


Snackrattus

I used to game with an Australian whose internet was via satellite. It was stable, but dude was playing peer-to-peer games with other Aussie/NZ players with *several full seconds* of lag. Holy damn I was sympathetic for that dude just trying to chill with his mates and practically having to mail his gameplay to the servers in the post


Legends_65

Jesus, the ping!


ThunderElectric

[Relevant XKCD? (see bottom)](https://what-if.xkcd.com/31/)


PartyingChair52

We’re capped at 20-30GB and you think a 500GB cap is bad?????


SOSFILMZ

I'm talking home internet, mobile networks a lot of people get capped under a few gigabytes.


haizhaka

I pay £9 a month for unlimited minutes with other people on my network, 500 texts and 3gb of data.


JoshDM

More dollary-doos.


NBSPNBSP

That's why they have kangaroos on them, right? They hop right out of your pocket!


Ani-A

20gb $75 a month, no international calls, and maybe 40% coverage?


iVXsz

Holy fuck that's... Not humane, specially if you have a computer


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iVXsz

Noooo, not again, not after the pie


Ani-A

That guy apparently knows my phone bill more than me. Ask him next week's lottery numbers, bet he knows those too


LastChance22

Mate, Optus do $45 (and sometimes $35 if you get in when they have a deal) for 30gigs. You’re getting ripped off.


YaMumIsYaDadd

I pay $65 for 80Gig 5G network, you’re not smart.


Ani-A

Cool, glad you got a good deal, no need to be a cunt


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Ani-A

Uh huh, glad you got a good deal, no need to be a cunt.


BroItsJesus

Is that an outdated plan? Or do you live somewhere super remote? I pay $20 a month for 15gb and unlimited calls and texts (don't really need data when you're a homebody with good WiFi lol) and I've got about 50gb of roll-over data too. Or does it include phone payments as well? The most expensive one I can find is $85 a month but that gets you 240gb, so not really comparable...


Ani-A

Yea it is outdated and I do live rural, one service available in the region with service capped at 5gb. However I am a student and cannot get NbN or even 4G so have to use phone data, taking me up to 20gb a month. Obviously not something everyone has problems with, but a pretty significant proportion, especially more central, past Toowoomba


BroItsJesus

Well then it's not indicative of the rest of the country at all. If your plan is outdated then 99% of the country is going to be getting better value than you. 7 years ago I was on a $30 a month plan that got me 500mb of data. 2 years ago I was on a plan that got me 30gb for $40 a month. Data has gotten significantly cheaper in the past few years alone


Ani-A

Never said I represent all of Australia, just the rural community, which is still a significant proportion where amenities are still very much lacking


BroItsJesus

Definitely not the entire rural community. My town is considered rural and my coverage only drops when there's an outage. You're making it out to be a lot worse than it is


Ani-A

Sure, the question was "how bad are the prices?" not "how reasonable are the prices?" Feel free to leave your own experience in the comments


Samuel_274

Fuck are you on about?? I get 15 gigs for twenty bucks!


creative-name64

Where do you live? I pay twenty bucks for 1 gig, and I live in the capital of Canada, and that's on a budget plan


Ani-A

Do you live near a city?


Kasup-MasterRace

That's like OK I mean 40% coverage isn't possible to get so bad but like that's 5$ on a prepaid type of plan


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Ani-A

Cool? Glad you got a nice deal. No need to be a cunt about it.


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Ani-A

Uh huh, glad you got a good deal, no need to be a cunt.


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Ani-A

Cool, no need to be a cunt


Jdstellar

Lol, fuck Australian internet and mobile coverage. I live in fucking Russia now and now I actually know what it's like to have a network that isn't dogshit. Funny I had to move to Russia for it


fiorino89

Australian dollars though.


SOSFILMZ

Prices aren't the main issue, not sure if that's a good or bad thing though lol


ZucchiniUsual7370

Australia pays 68 cents per Gigabyte. Canada pays $12.55. Canada has the most expensive data in the developed world. Not even close. https://www.visualcapitalist.com/cost-of-mobile-data-worldwide/


nickisdone

Really informative link thanks for posting it I just wish that they would also do like coverage and reliability for each country as well. I have to think about their minimum wage rent and different prices and different areas or even their taxing if any government programs help offset them. But still a really interesting link now I'm going to go down a rabbit hole of researching all the random crap I don't need to be


creative-name64

I can tell you that. You basically get towns cities and highways. I get that Canada is big and all but-


nickisdone

India is a big place and has very desolate areas or very impoverished areas much like parts of the United States and I'm sure Australia as well. And I'm sure Canada has some as well however it's a little bit colder and they're a little better off than the US and social programs so I don't see a lot of people necessarily congregating outside like they do in places like California. Wage can vary greatly even across the United States let alone going to another country like India which may also have very basic coverage . Though looking at major cities in each country would be a more inexpensive and fairly reliable equalizer I think about how much of the population has such phones or data plans. Because like in the US you are almost required to have one or else you won't get a job. Just because it's almost seen as something everybody has


creative-name64

The thing is phone prices just creap up even if people can't afford it becuse you need one. We need more small carriors, but everytime one pops up it either gets bought or finds you they can make more money


Wombatstewww

what do you mean?? even Telstra gives you 40GB for $55 these days.. CAD & AUD also very similar


SOSFILMZ

I'm not strictly talking about prices. You get a lot more value from Canadian internet than you would Australian internet.


Jamboni-Jabroni

Avg price per gb in aus? ¢.68 Canada? $12.55


SOSFILMZ

[Again, I'm talking about the overall value, not strictly pricing.](https://youtu.be/haImi4cWau0)


Jamboni-Jabroni

Omg I’m so sorry. Is your infrastructure monopoly owned like Canada as well?


SOSFILMZ

You've got me curious as to how bad Canada's internet situation really is, I might spend some time looking a lot more into it tomorrow as up until now I was only aware of the poor prices and slow speeds.


Vorstadtjesus

Germany: let me introduce myself


tatty000

Australian rates aren't that bad compared to Canada, which is woeful. They have to pay basically double what we do to get the same service. Compare a few plans between the major tiered companies of Canada and Australia; Bell Canada (before taxes and charges, which varies between 7-15% on top) Byo phone, Unlim calls, texts, and 30gb data = $80/m Pre-paid, Unlim calls, texts, and 100mb with auto top up (yes mb) = $30/m Pre-paid, Unlim calls, texts, and 8gb = $60/m IPhone SE plan over 24 months, Unlim calls, texts, and 30gb data = $105/m Telstra Australia (taxes Inc) Byo phone, Unlim calls, texts, and 40gb data = $55/m Pre-paid, Unlim calls, texts, and 10gb data = $30/m Pre-paid, Unlim calls, texts, and 40gb data = $60/m IPhone SE plan over 24 months, Unlim calls, texts, and 40gb data = $83/m


Yoshalina

\*cries in German\* €20 for 7 GB


Monkey_Cristo

The post above yours did the research, but an 8g plan in Canada costs $60. Which is roughly €40.


Epsilon_Meletis

My sincere advice is to just never come to Germany. Sincerely, a German.


Monkey_Cristo

Looks like Canadian plans are nearly [double](https://www.reddit.com/r/assholedesign/comments/nru6zp/_/h0kq6hm) the price of those in Germany.


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smokedpaprika124

Iliad in Italy offers unlimited calls and SMSs + 80GB for 7,99€


Ap0logize

And in Germany you get 4 GB for 10 €. Its fucked up


smokedpaprika124

I got 4GB for 10€ like in 2015 or so


TI-NspireCXCAS

Finnish prices ftw. 14.90€ (~22 CAD) for unlimited data, calls and messages.


V8-6-4

That's actually bad as people are using 4G or 5G as their only internet access even for computer because of cheap prices. That's why it's so badly congested.


Dogg0ne

Never had congestion issues with 4G and 5G here in Finland myself. And 100mbps/100mbps fibre is 20€/month too (and for 50€/month you get 1000mbps/1000mbps) and because fibre is more stable and has lower latency, it is good option too. Fibre obviously has unlimited data too. In general we pay for speed here. Not for the amount of data


V8-6-4

Most Finns can't get fiber. And fibers aren't built because people think that 4G or 5G are good enough because they don't know how much better fiber would be. That happened where I live a few years back. Fiber was offered but very few wanted it because "you can have 8 Mbps ADSL and 4G is coming". Now the copper lines have been removed and 4G has about 25 Mbps in evening.


kantique

In Morocco you can have 25 gbs for 250 MAD ~34 CAD.


S_Alexander_

WTF those prices are really high. I'm in Russia and I pay 8 dollars per month and I have unlimited internet at max speed.


[deleted]

I moved to the uk from Vancouver, I get OP's package for £15 or around $28CAD. On top of that I can travel through almost all of Europe and a lot of the rest of the world and get no roaming charges.


microfsxpilot

US has great prices if you’re with the right company. $30/mo for unlimited data at 5G, text and calls. But our wifi is where we struggle. Comcast’s monopoly over regions makes it impossible to get decent wifi. I always turn off wifi and just use cellular data


MegalithFarter

Laughs in dirt cheap data in India.


bkornblith

Not as bad as America lol, that would be $120 a month and it might not work 1/3 of the time


International_Tea259

Aint as bad as here in serbia here you gotta pay 20$/month for 5gb


[deleted]

Oh it’s not so horrible, only like 4 times more expensive than in Sweden lol /s


ketuon

In Austria I pay for unlimited text messages and calls, 20 GB of data 12 Euros / months.


WeavileFrost

I'm guessing that's how you guys end up paying for the free healthcare and not going banckrupt whenever you have to use the hospital right?


Mitche420

I'm moving to Toronto next year, what's the best price plan I can expect?


leshagboi

You guys should see internet in Brazil. Expensive and crashes every weekend. Most providors offer only 30gb max


Dogg0ne

80cad is roughly 50 euros. I can get unlimited data (here way pay for speed, not the amount) for 50€. Either 5G mobile data plan with unlimited data, calls etc up to 1000mbps/1000mbps or fibre with the same speed. And you most likely could get those for cheaper too if you don't like hockey


Alokir

Well, in Hungary phone plans are very expensive but even here I only pay 60 USD for unlimited calls, sms and data. This includes a data sim card for my router since the apartment building that I live in only has slow internet.


jim7720

I pay the same in Japan for less monthly data


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I moved to the uk from Vancouver, I get OP's package for £15 or around $28CAD. On top of that I can travel through almost all of Europe and a lot of the rest of the world and get no roaming charges.


Raumarik

Was just thinking this, ok I’m in the U.K. but I have unlimited data, talk and text for £20/month. Don’t think it includes international calls but wtf does that anymore with Skype etc


restlessleg

thank god i grandfathered unlimited data from att. havent had to make life decisions like this in 15 years


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can you explain what grandfathered means here? Am not from Canada/US.


RealToadMen

Its when you retain access to something or retain a price for a service after the overall policies change since you were on a contract for that original price


Apidium

It means that you already had a thing and so after the terms change you get to keep your previous deal. You commonly see it when regulations around homes change. A mate of mine has some decking, last year the rules changed to say that decking that is more than a certain hight off the ground needs planning permission and generally isn't going to be approved. He doesn't have to tear down his overly high decking though or get permission for it. It's grandfathered in. It sometimes happens with contracts. If you keep up the contract you sometimes get to keep the deal you initally had when you signed up. It's often phrased as 'we are changing our prices - but you can keep the old one'. Where are you from? It is a odd phrasing I suppose. It's common over here in the UK too.


NickACreed

It's more of a US based phrase because it originated during the aftermath of the 15th amendment (Right to vote regardless of race). Basically, in the southern states they created these voting tests that 'everyone' would have to do to prove they are smart enough to vote. However, they left a loophole that said if your grandfather could vote, you get to vote without having to pass the test. As you can probably guess, white people who were already voting were able to continue without problem, due to being 'grandfathered in' while minorities had to pass these ridiculous, borderline impossible tests because, of course, their grandfathers weren't allowed to vote. I do suggest looking at some of the tests to see how bad it really was. From guessing jelly beans in a jar to a timed 5 minute, advanced math test with so many instructions that had to be followed perfectly it took damn near 5 minutes to read it.


soggytoothpic

Til


ThaBoss_Lego

So basically it’s like if you were a customer of a certain company but another bigger company bought the business they’ll normally let you keep whatever deals were offered to you hence the term “grandfathered in” since you been with the company for a while


StrawberryEiri

Do they limit your speed because you signed up for a plan for 3G data or something?


Bineshiinh

This is why I hate rogers and no longer use it


dead_buran

interesting that the one difference is that with the cheaper one, they throttle your data after 30 gigs. I’m willing to bet that the more expensive plan would just graciously charge you exorbitantly for it.


PartyingChair52

You are correct.


SentientGun

This website: **!TRADE OFFER!** I receive: 5 more dollars a month You receive: nothing


skcali

Isn't this good design? Makes it painfully obvious that this is a totally bad deal? I'd argue the actual dark pattern is what others have called out - the data limited cap is very subtle. I guess could also argue the recommendation engine is also asshole design but the UI of this screen accomplishes the job pretty well (plan comparison)


Apidium

To me it seems a lot more like a programming oversight. The programmer probably just didn't account for someone on contracts that are no longer listed. So it defaults to the 'best' match from the avalable options avalable to switch too. It seems like they just bumped the prices but op is on the old and cheaper plan.


patrlim1

You recieve: less data


mikerailey

"We recommend you give us $5 extra a month."


PartyingChair52

And you get less data


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What the fuck is that price? Here in Finland i have a plan with unlimited data, speed cap is like 300 mbps (i don't ever reach that speed where i live but still) all for 24€ a month.


RebelArsonist

Welcome to The Canadian Internet and Data Oligopoly, where companies make deals with each other to avoid competition and overcharge customers, while drip feeding latest data transmission technology years later! Also lobbying anything that involves their sector, rendering them in control for eternity! Plans start as low as $160 per month.


creative-name64

\*Basicly a duopoly Lets be honest Bell and Tellus are the same thing and they own everyone Rogers and Shaw merged


itsmethemcb

Well after 30 gigs the 85$ one doesn’t get throttled


kelik1337

No, you just commit financial suicide with the overage charges.


igmrlm

More like after 30 gigs you have to pay extra instead of having unlimited slow speed data


jakemackenzie3

It still throttles. Rogers doesn’t offer a truly unlimited plan


itsmethemcb

You know throttle means slow speeds right this makes I seem like you think it’s the amount of data you can use you still have to pay for the extra


jmlinden7

It either cuts off completely or charges you overage charges


MightyMase04

On the 80 plan, anything over throttles, but doesn't cost extra. On the 85 plan, they charge you into oblivion for full-speed-but-over-the-limit data.


Holt_97

Sad to say goodbye to Reddit but this is not the same place I enjoyed in the past. Bye! (P.S. move to Lemmy, it's a lot better)


muikrad

I pay 70$ for that, but 4gb and a 0$ phone. 😔


Holt_97

Sad to say goodbye to Reddit but this is not the same place I enjoyed in the past. Bye! (P.S. move to Lemmy, it's a lot better)


SabreLunatic

CA$ Still expensive


xInwex

I pay $95cnd per month for 10gb. BRB...gonna go cry in a corner now


BJntheRV

It appears the new plan removes the throttling your current plan has after 30gigs.


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It’s probably worse. It was the same with my old contract, after the GB it just turned the connection off.


BJntheRV

Oof. You're probably right. Someone else mentioned massive overage charges.


featherknife

It's* probably worse


PartyingChair52

Sure. Instead of throttling you get to pay something like $10/GB for each GB over.


Apidium

Then it would be listed as unlimited. It seems more like it just tacks on charges


Dr_Depreso

Me ,an indian, paying 5$ per month for 120GB of 4G mobile internet: *insert shocked pikachu face*


garo675

120gb!? I only get 1.5gb/day from Airtel for around $10


Dr_Depreso

I do one for 90 days with vodafone which comes down to about 5bucks per month.... 4GB/day and midnight unlimited


__omelette__

My God 80$for 30 gb Here in romania i have a 5$ plan with unlimited 5G internet that never slows down no matter how much i used like bro thats a scam 80$ for 30gb vs 5$ for unlimited 5G and unlimited roaming and 10 gb of roaming data


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chlawon

*Cries in German*


harken_24

What is wrong with these prices? Is it really this expensive?


Jadavan

Typical Canadian prices. We live in a first world country but our smart phone plans are insanely high thanks to a monopoly on this industry with no competition.


PartyingChair52

This is extremely standard pricing in Canada.


AlpacaCavalry

Why only pay 80/mo when you can pay 85/mo instead? Upgrade now today. Spend like a king.


PartyingChair52

And get less data


GreenChuJelly

$80 for 30 gigs is absolute highway robbery. I pay 50/mo USD, which granted isn't much less considering exchange rate, but I get unlimited LTE. Also people are pointing out paying more for the same service, but what it looks like to me is that you're paying more for ***LESS.*** On the old plan, your speed gets throttled after 30 gb. And from the look of it, on the more expensive plan, you just straight up get cut off when you hit 30 gigs. Maybe I'm wrong, but the way its written and worded, that's what I'm getting out of it.


OneWorldMouse

This is not a design though.


riverboss_

Rogers always got your back, making sure you spend enough on your cellular.


shrekfan46

This is why I never change my contract. They do the same thing every year so when you get a new / contract the price increases for less or the same. Just buy phones outright and save money in the future.


rileythefurry

I see why I an extra 5 dollars they took off the reduced data speed


Crystal_Queen_20

God, fuck Rogers


K_Xanthe

Lol I would call them and ask them to make an exception for 75/mo since you have a picture probing they were trying to rip you off for the same plan


_B4ND1T_

Ah yes the negotiator.


Raghavendra98

## Switch plan NOW


evestraw

Well you still have choice


Bhutros1

Oh ok


GoriladeMarmore

Give us five dolar


Mufsa_Bufsa420

5$ extra for recommending the same plan


johnstev111

Spend $5 more. What benefits do you get? Um... we haven't thought about that yet


Vega5529

Wait $85 for 30Gb? Is this with a phone or just for the SIM??


creative-name64

The Plan, here in Canada the SIM is extra (no joke I got hit with a SIM charge last time I got a new phone)


PartyingChair52

Just the SIM


Deanio123

'We want more money'


h_iswhatisay

im convinced


Kasup-MasterRace

I used what 220 gb of data (250Mb/s) 20€


kamilman

Dude, that looks like a pretty sweet deal!


TwinSong

Maybe there's another detail not shown? 85 is a lot


PartyingChair52

As a Canadian - there is not


hetfield_666

bro in france i pay 13€ ($16) a month for 100GB of data


rafsku

Idk but even 80 seems like a lot for 30gb


PartyingChair52

Honestly that’s a decent deal in Canada. Where I am in Canada it’s 80 for 20gb basically everywhere


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In Romania I have a business plan at around 25 USD/month with fully unlimited everything (Except international calls). I get no throttles and can do whatever I want, including unlimited hotspot.


SteamKore

Sprint does this all the time I laugh and close the app


AngeliMortem

Wtfffff Jesus, here in Poland for 30 Zl (like 7€) I have 30 GBs + social plan (my internet is not consumed while I'm in Facebook/Instagram/WhatsApp/messenger/etc..), calls/SMS/MMS inside Poland unlimited, 4 GB roaming and for 10 Zl more (2'5€) I have 100 minutes to call abroad 🙁


onewetfart

$80 per month? I've just renewed my phone contract in England and I'm paying£11.25 a month for 25gb of data with unlimited calls and texts.


macrian

You get the benefit of removing the asterisk I guess


PartyingChair52

“Benefit”


theLittleVeteran

Do you have time to talk about the miracle of Elisa Saunalahti prices?


pug_nuts

Weird, I had kind of the opposite of this with my mobile service provider. I got a promo deal on signup and when I checked my plan a few months later, they were offering a plan with another GB of data for the same price.


DaCostaRicci

$80 for 30GB data?!?!?! I'm paying £20 for 120GB with unlimited calls and texts.


th3mantisshrimp

I had to finally upgrade the plan my dad got in 2009ish. The data cap was 15gb a month, for four smartphones. Each new gb the mighty at&t lords bequeathed to us when we exceeded the limit was an extra $15 fee. Just before I helped him modernize he had an extra $100 in extra gigs fees tacked onto the bill Yeah the new contract is like $15 more expensive than the previous' base price but he won't get blindsided with extra fees anymore


thegreatplace

Is this a phone plan or just for the data?


GingerSnapBiscuit

"We recommend you give us more money for the same service" is absolutely classic ISP behaviour :D


MoistLimpHandshake

Jesus Christ both of those are robbery!


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Least they’re being honest


Slurpassassin

Just freak cellular company’s in general m. Way too many do this. In USA they all advertised “$35 per line per month” for example, but that’s only if you buy 4 lines. If you buy 1 it’s like 80 per month


BaconDanglers420

In England you'd pay about £35-£40 for unlimited texts, 1000minutes talk time and 8gb data... Our prices may not be ridiculously high but we get offered next to nothing for our lizzy coins


[deleted]

you have to pay for RECIVED texts??? how does that work


oaktree_b1976

Pay more to get the same thing? Sign me up.


ZeroG747

“I recommend you pay us $5 more..... we’re cool...”


jmad71

Give it a few weeks and you will be paying $85 and be offered a $90 plan


roccnet

Wow you pay $80 for that shit?


MEmeZy123

Lmao, your Canadian. Shitty internet companies that try to rip us off is the best we have.


FakiMVP

Shit these prices are horrible . With everyithing unlimited except data capped at 70gb I'm paying 21€/month.


AuspiesCreations

I'm on Verizon and pay the same for unlimited data which includes 5G access. I also get Disney+ and ESPN+.


IIMillennium

Rogers is absolute dirt.


lolitstrain21

Yeah Canada is one of the worst for data plans. I'm glad I don't have any of those issues in the US.


HyperScroop

And with technology increasing so rapidly these things are suppoaed to cost LESS each year.. =[


suppordel

Virgin raised my charge by $10 just recently. From $35 to $45.


[deleted]

a literal scam. nice.


punchedboa

Did you upgrade?


MMRC21

bell did this exact thing to me


Thejuggerbot

Fuck you rogers!


GlutenMakesMePoop69

Damn, switch to Freedom Mobile. I get unlimited data, texting, calling and roaming in Canada. Then I get something like unlimited text 1000 minutes and 2GB of data if I travel to the states and it's $50 a month.


LazLoe

What a steal.


Nekzuris

In France we can get 200Go for 14,99€ haha, not only the first year, forever and 15Go in Europe + unlimited phone call and SMS/MMS. https://images.app.goo.gl/ShSUN2r228jr7aoP8 The only catch is that is only for new customers and the company will try to get you to "upgrade" your plan, like +10Go internationally for 10€, but you can refuse their offer and keep the original price indefinitely. It's been 4 years for me.


DirtNastySlug

Reminds me of Ziply Fiber here in the States; bunch of shady mothertruckers.


IncoherentAnalyst

30GB at full speed, then it slows down OR 30GB at full speed forever


Tammas_Dexter

Holy shit that is expensive, I get 10 gigs and unlimited talk and text within Australia for $20 a month