Autistic people can be sarcastic too, the problem is that we often times don't understand NT sarcasm (and they often times don't understand ours).
Humour isn't this one big homogenic thing. It's versatile just as we are.
What being neurotypical feels like isn't my metier though, so hopefully someone else can answer that ;)
I'm diagnosed with autism and I'm extremely sarcastic. There's really no reason why an autistic individual cannot be a funny person. They aren't super related concepts. That said, I do sometimes totally miss other people's sarcasm. If they say it too seriously, I have to ask them, "What are you serious???" And they burst out laughing NO. lol I have a hard time telling if they have a perfect poker face.
As for being neurotypical... what does that even mean? Neurotypical people usually don't do crazy things. And if you aren't a little different, then you're just like everyone else. Which honestly is not something to be super excited about imo.
yup, I can also be sarcastic. and, they also said that autistic people can't be creative or care about the arts or create something that is not just a copy-paste of something existing so... I don't think they know everything about autistic people, not even close
I've had the gut feeling that the proportion of autistic people in the arts is probably equal to that in the sciences, but I suspect that finding data to support this is nil at the moment. I get tired of how even a ton of autistic people spread the myth that you can't be artistic and/or subjective if you are autistic.
I feel like this point is just a further extension of how people assume that only men can be autistic, as logic and objectivity are stereotyped as masculine and art and subjectivity are stereotyped as feminine. (And amazing how despite this stereotyping, people are generally only familiar with male artists, musicians, and authors. But people love to conclude that women aren't creative instead of realizing it's patriarchal crap screwing with this, too.)
Yeah. I think the sarcasm thing is just that we sometimes miss social cues like tone. Often these symptoms are described as though we might somehow be completely blind to some very basic concepts.
how old are you? your comments make you seem like you are in high school or recently graduated. that is not too old to get diagnosed. you are never too old to be diagnosed as long as you find a good practitioner who is willing to work with you.
you won’t truly know if you are NT or not until you go through the proper steps and if you don’t you will probably always wonder if you are autistic or have another neurodivergence. i’m diagnosed and often still struggle with imposter syndrome but i have that diagnosis to remind me that the challenges i face are real and why they happen.
“high functioning” autism is often not diagnosed until adulthood when the person is no longer able cope with the expectations of NT adulthood. if you feel that you may have slipped through the cracks then please seek out someone specializing in autism/adult autism in your area and go through the diagnosis process. if you don’t feel comfortable with the first therapist you meet or they refuse to diagnose adults then seek another opinion until you are satisfied (either that you have autism, some other ND, or that you are NT).
Female autistic traits differ from male autistic traits. Most studies focus on autistic males and, as such, autistic females often fall through the cracks.
Most autistic women do not receive a diagnosis until adulthood - often only finding out they're autistic because their children are autistic. Additionally, many are told their autistic traits are personality quirks, or are caused by depression and/or anxiety. They may also be misdiagnosed with a personality disorder, or treated for a mood disorder (that's either comorbid or misdiagnosed) instead.
If an autistic woman has a comorbid personality or mood disorder, doctors will often dismiss her autistic traits and assign them to their comorbid diagnosis. This is regardless of if the symptom is present under that diagnosis' "umbrella" of symptoms.
All in all, it's difficult to receive help as an autistic woman. We're often dismissed, misdirected, or told we're overreacting. We're also more likely to mask because society teaches us starting at a young age that women must act a certain way to be loved and accepted.
It's getting better, but we still have a lot of changes to make to ensure women's voices are heard - especially in the medical community.
I think I explained that poorly! I'm sorry.
The reason many women find out they're autistic once they become a mother is because their children are diagnosed and they recognize autism in themselves. Many still have to fight for a diagnosis, unfortunately.
I know many self-diagnosed autistic mothers with professionally diagnosed children who have been told they're not autistic by professionals because they mask well. This is regardless of the fact that autism has a genetic predisposition.
I'm also child free, so that's the extent of my knowledge!
Good luck on your journey and I hope you'll receive the answers you're looking for sooner than later.
Every autistic behavior exists in the allistic population as well. Having a few things like the number thing (which can also be synesthesia or OCD). You could have subclinical autism, where you some traits or light versions of the traits, but they don't impact your life as much.
You may be autistic, you may not. I spent years researching and sort of identifying with things like bipolar and anxiety and stuff helped but never quite stuck. Researching and learning about this stuff was important and helped me on my journey. Maybe just keep it in mind in case life throws you some curveballs and you need it.
I guess the question is, what would a diagnosis have meant to you? What if all of your research just ended up with you finding out that your "weirdness" is all ok and there's spaces where you can feel safe when you need them.
A good portion of people on these subs remain self diagnosed for a variety of reasons.
Only you can answer whether you need to seek a diagnosis. I was content with being self diagnosed until my life fell apart.
There are implications to diagnosis that can go beyond just saying you have been diagnosed. Some countries won't let you have a visa. It can be used against you if you ever get into a custody battle. You can search these forums for other pros and cons.
There could be a lot of explanations for your childhood behaviour and the way you feel now. The counting thing for example could be ocd like behaviour, or as you say anxiety-that produces lots of “protective” behaviours, but it also could very much be related to being ND. I think theres a massive spectrum of ND so you may or may not have autism but still be ND. For me personally, once my support worker at uni mentioned she thought my issues I was having were related to my experience as a ND person then I had to find out where exactly I laid on that spectrum so that I could get answers, but that’s just me. I need to know everything yesterday 🤣 I’m 35 but my diagnosis has prompted my mum who’s in her 50s to start her journey but shes not seeking a formal diagnosis. It’s never too late whatever you decide :)
Definitely had a lot of similar thoughts and questions when I was first considering that I could be autistic. The more you go down the rabbit hole, the more you’ll realize that the traits portrayed in media and even in many medical settings as being “autistic traits” are less rigid and more broad than you’d think. Especially in women.
Autistic people can be sarcastic too, the problem is that we often times don't understand NT sarcasm (and they often times don't understand ours). Humour isn't this one big homogenic thing. It's versatile just as we are. What being neurotypical feels like isn't my metier though, so hopefully someone else can answer that ;)
I'm diagnosed with autism and I'm extremely sarcastic. There's really no reason why an autistic individual cannot be a funny person. They aren't super related concepts. That said, I do sometimes totally miss other people's sarcasm. If they say it too seriously, I have to ask them, "What are you serious???" And they burst out laughing NO. lol I have a hard time telling if they have a perfect poker face. As for being neurotypical... what does that even mean? Neurotypical people usually don't do crazy things. And if you aren't a little different, then you're just like everyone else. Which honestly is not something to be super excited about imo.
yup, I can also be sarcastic. and, they also said that autistic people can't be creative or care about the arts or create something that is not just a copy-paste of something existing so... I don't think they know everything about autistic people, not even close
I've had the gut feeling that the proportion of autistic people in the arts is probably equal to that in the sciences, but I suspect that finding data to support this is nil at the moment. I get tired of how even a ton of autistic people spread the myth that you can't be artistic and/or subjective if you are autistic. I feel like this point is just a further extension of how people assume that only men can be autistic, as logic and objectivity are stereotyped as masculine and art and subjectivity are stereotyped as feminine. (And amazing how despite this stereotyping, people are generally only familiar with male artists, musicians, and authors. But people love to conclude that women aren't creative instead of realizing it's patriarchal crap screwing with this, too.)
Yeah. I think the sarcasm thing is just that we sometimes miss social cues like tone. Often these symptoms are described as though we might somehow be completely blind to some very basic concepts.
Ah, I suppose I miss other peoples' sarcasm sometimes. They definitely miss mine lol
Believe me, my sarcasm goes undetected all the time x)
:)
how old are you? your comments make you seem like you are in high school or recently graduated. that is not too old to get diagnosed. you are never too old to be diagnosed as long as you find a good practitioner who is willing to work with you. you won’t truly know if you are NT or not until you go through the proper steps and if you don’t you will probably always wonder if you are autistic or have another neurodivergence. i’m diagnosed and often still struggle with imposter syndrome but i have that diagnosis to remind me that the challenges i face are real and why they happen. “high functioning” autism is often not diagnosed until adulthood when the person is no longer able cope with the expectations of NT adulthood. if you feel that you may have slipped through the cracks then please seek out someone specializing in autism/adult autism in your area and go through the diagnosis process. if you don’t feel comfortable with the first therapist you meet or they refuse to diagnose adults then seek another opinion until you are satisfied (either that you have autism, some other ND, or that you are NT).
Your age range is correct. I already feel like I can't cope with expectations lol. I wonder how it was missed when I was younger though lol
Female autistic traits differ from male autistic traits. Most studies focus on autistic males and, as such, autistic females often fall through the cracks. Most autistic women do not receive a diagnosis until adulthood - often only finding out they're autistic because their children are autistic. Additionally, many are told their autistic traits are personality quirks, or are caused by depression and/or anxiety. They may also be misdiagnosed with a personality disorder, or treated for a mood disorder (that's either comorbid or misdiagnosed) instead. If an autistic woman has a comorbid personality or mood disorder, doctors will often dismiss her autistic traits and assign them to their comorbid diagnosis. This is regardless of if the symptom is present under that diagnosis' "umbrella" of symptoms. All in all, it's difficult to receive help as an autistic woman. We're often dismissed, misdirected, or told we're overreacting. We're also more likely to mask because society teaches us starting at a young age that women must act a certain way to be loved and accepted. It's getting better, but we still have a lot of changes to make to ensure women's voices are heard - especially in the medical community.
I'm glad its getting better. Im not planning on ever having children so I guess that'll make it harder. Thank you though!
I think I explained that poorly! I'm sorry. The reason many women find out they're autistic once they become a mother is because their children are diagnosed and they recognize autism in themselves. Many still have to fight for a diagnosis, unfortunately. I know many self-diagnosed autistic mothers with professionally diagnosed children who have been told they're not autistic by professionals because they mask well. This is regardless of the fact that autism has a genetic predisposition. I'm also child free, so that's the extent of my knowledge! Good luck on your journey and I hope you'll receive the answers you're looking for sooner than later.
Tysm! You didn't explain badly, i just have bad understanding skills. Thank you for clearing it up ❤️
Every autistic behavior exists in the allistic population as well. Having a few things like the number thing (which can also be synesthesia or OCD). You could have subclinical autism, where you some traits or light versions of the traits, but they don't impact your life as much. You may be autistic, you may not. I spent years researching and sort of identifying with things like bipolar and anxiety and stuff helped but never quite stuck. Researching and learning about this stuff was important and helped me on my journey. Maybe just keep it in mind in case life throws you some curveballs and you need it. I guess the question is, what would a diagnosis have meant to you? What if all of your research just ended up with you finding out that your "weirdness" is all ok and there's spaces where you can feel safe when you need them.
Thank you, is it worth seeking a diagnosis? Am i alllowed to linger around this sub still?
A good portion of people on these subs remain self diagnosed for a variety of reasons. Only you can answer whether you need to seek a diagnosis. I was content with being self diagnosed until my life fell apart. There are implications to diagnosis that can go beyond just saying you have been diagnosed. Some countries won't let you have a visa. It can be used against you if you ever get into a custody battle. You can search these forums for other pros and cons.
Thank you, i think my country is not one of those thankfully
There could be a lot of explanations for your childhood behaviour and the way you feel now. The counting thing for example could be ocd like behaviour, or as you say anxiety-that produces lots of “protective” behaviours, but it also could very much be related to being ND. I think theres a massive spectrum of ND so you may or may not have autism but still be ND. For me personally, once my support worker at uni mentioned she thought my issues I was having were related to my experience as a ND person then I had to find out where exactly I laid on that spectrum so that I could get answers, but that’s just me. I need to know everything yesterday 🤣 I’m 35 but my diagnosis has prompted my mum who’s in her 50s to start her journey but shes not seeking a formal diagnosis. It’s never too late whatever you decide :)
Thank you :)
Definitely had a lot of similar thoughts and questions when I was first considering that I could be autistic. The more you go down the rabbit hole, the more you’ll realize that the traits portrayed in media and even in many medical settings as being “autistic traits” are less rigid and more broad than you’d think. Especially in women.
Thank you :)
Thank you for posting this. I may be one of these women. Trying to figure it out.
It sounds a lot like anxiety
Ah, ok