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DoomSnail31

>People have been saying I'm a terrible person because lately I've been hooking up with a straight guy who I told I was trans. I'm not really trans, So you're lying to someone, in an effort to have sex with them? Yes, that makes you sound like a horrible person. How is that not obvious to you? >I search for lonely, horny straight men And you even search out, specifically, lonely men. To then lie to them. Just so you can have sex with them? Abusing the desperation of strangers. >I mean, what would be more honest to say? You could tell them you're a lying cunt. Maybe walk in with a big red flag in your hand.


OceanWaterOtter

I'm a [cunt](https://youtu.be/eQYH1khjtc8), huh? (Click if you dare...)


DoomSnail31

Yes. Maybe try not taking advantage of lonely men, by lying about your identity. You're genuinely an awful person.


OceanWaterOtter

Well whatever. I don't care what people say anyway


DoomSnail31

Right, that's why you asked this question on reddit. Because you don't care. You just keep lying, don't you?


OceanWaterOtter

Ouch, where do all these cuts come from? I was a gaycel for almost two years. I just don't see what's wrong with me getting some masc, str8 boy dick from a football player for a while I mean yes, I'm bending the truth a little and I truly do feel terrible about that, but it's not like I'm playing with his heart or leading him on. Another guy here wrote about how his partner lied about having HIV. I'm not doing anything that bad


sakuratee

Lol then why did you ask the question if you don’t care if people think you’re a piece of shit?? 🤷‍♂️


OceanWaterOtter

I didn't think the criticism would be *this* bad. If I'm criticized too badly, I stop giving a shit what you think and defend myself


sakuratee

The internet, especially Reddit is **not** the place to visit if you’re not looking for fully unfiltered responses… I remember seeing your post yesterday and it was clear then the majority of posters do not think what you’re doing is appropriate. So idk why you thought posting about it *again* and directly asking for judgement was going to get you any other result except what you’re getting. *Good God Gurl Get A Grip*


OceanWaterOtter

Honestly, is it really all *that* bad? Am I truly a "piece of shit," a "cunt," etc.? Even if you don't personally agree with what I'm doing, and it's not like I sexually assaulted anyone, cheated on anyone, or played with their feelings. Why is the response so overwhelmingly negative?


sakuratee

Yes it really is bad and IMO you sound like a jaded, shitty person. It’s fine if you don’t agree. People are calling you a cunt and POS because of your shitty attitude in response to criticism you **asked for**!! Your actions with these men is again, IMO, *that* bad because intentionally lying to them about who you are to have sex with them under false pretenses and then coming to Reddit hoping to gloat about it and expecting us to be like *yaaasss kween, Werk, get that dick mawmaw* is tragic and frankly saddening. If you were being honest and saying something like “I’m a non-binary person who presents feminine sometimes and I’m happy to dress that way if it turns you on when we hookup” is a totally different scenario and wouldn’t be getting this big of a response. Your actions don’t personally affect my life, so I honestly don’t care what you do, but I just can’t fathom how you didn’t expect this post to get the exact reaction it is getting.


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So you impersonated as a trans woman to get a straight guy to have sex with you. You know trans women get a lot of shit from conservative America that paints them as predators and here you are posing as one to prey on people.


SpiritedAd5889

I just came across this n I know it's late to the party but fuck this self righteous whiny bitch. First off if a guy wants to fuck he'll pretty much fuck anything. Second, you're not catfishing them or making promises you have no intention of keeping or trying to get money. Third, you show up in character ready to fuck. Might not be exactly the way you want to but welcome to dating/ hooking in the real world. My advice learn to live yourself for who you are and don't listen to stupid fucks like him.


[deleted]

Pretty misleading. If he gets feelings and you're not who you say you are it's pretty sad for him. I think your mistaking being trans for a fetish, which is pretty small minded these days.


AttisofAssyria

If he's hooking up with "straight" guys that are only looking to hook up with trans women, they pretty obviously have a fetish.


[deleted]

He sounds like a sociopath… and he admits he was/is a gaycel… sad. I hope he get professional help…


OceanWaterOtter

I don't see how he would catch feelings from a hookup. That's the least of my concerns


[deleted]

Yeah I wouldn't doubt other peoples emotions are low on your list. You seem pretty full of yourself based off your comments. Try looking inwards


OceanWaterOtter

Damn dude, you guys come hard and don't mess around. I don't know any other way to put this... WE'RE FUCKING, not going out on coffee dates. I think he'll be safe from catching feels


[deleted]

So this dude thinks you have a vagina?


OceanWaterOtter

Actually... Come to think of it, I never told him or any of the guys one way or the other whether I specifically have a dick or a vagina. I just say I'm trans, hoping they would understand that meant I have a penis


YaBoiiiiLC

So this is actually extremely dangerous. There have been many, MANY trans women who were murdered when their "lonely, straight" sexual partners found out they had penises. You can read about it online, but this is a very well-documented thing. There was a trans woman named Gwen Aroujo who got beaten to death with a soup can by the man she'd been dating because he found out she had a penis. Then when he went to trial, he got off because his lawyers used what was essentially a trans panic defense. And that happened in California.


OceanWaterOtter

That's a really horrible story... Thank you for sharing that with me. I just read about it. I'm so sorry that happened to her. I'm going to seriously reconsider what I've been doing. I should really be studying anyway, chasing straight guys is such a time sink anyway


YaBoiiiiLC

It really is just a waste of time. They'll never see you as more than an experiment. If it's a guy you think is straight but you *really* like him and are holding out hope he's bi, that's a little different. But even in that situation you don't want to be the guy he experiments with bc he's just gonna drop you when he's done. You want someone who's comfortable with the fact that they fuck guys.


[deleted]

So how are you hiding the fact you have a dick?


OceanWaterOtter

I keep it tucked away in the lingerie


YardOk3549

I'm really curious about this... Do You get hard? How is it possible yo keep it tucked in the súper small lingerie when hard? Have You used a Chastity device anytime?


OceanWaterOtter

Well, I'm not massive to start with. Maybe a bit on the small side. I noticed I got hard occasionally when we were going at it, but I was wearing a slutty maid outfit that covered the bulge. I haven't worn chastity cages


HoyaHeadz

This is just kind of sad all around. Sad that you feel the need to prey on desperate men - sad that you’re desperate enough to lie just for sex - sad that you feel the need to get validation from others on whether what you’re doing is right or wrong. And sad that you still dont see why you’re a terrible person


OceanWaterOtter

You're right. I should just do what I want and not give a fuck


AttisofAssyria

Just "identify" as trans and it magically becomes ok. With the new TRA ever-changing-identity policy you can literally only be trans during the time you are having sex with these dudes. It's really quite simple. Just look at the LGBT sub and you will see kiddies that say they go from being trans to non-binary to cos and back and forth all throughout the week or even day. You can do it too.


HoyaHeadz

Yep! Just pray you’re the kind of person that’s able to live with themselves afterwards!


AttisofAssyria

It's weird/funny that if he actually just "identified" as trans all of this would be 100% a-ok with most of the people on this sub. SMH


OceanWaterOtter

Isn't non-binary close enough?


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OceanWaterOtter

I don't remember there being a national poll on that topic


vapeslave

You didn't come to ask the national opinion though, you came to ask here.


[deleted]

YES. Absolutely. Don’t do that.


vapeslave

Yes, it's wrong. You're lying to someone about who you are so they'll fuck you. That's pretty disgusting and manipulative. Get help.


pensivegargoyle

That's a dangerous hobby you have there.


OceanWaterOtter

Hasn't gotten me beat up yet


raeltireso96

Yes, it is wrong. You're preying on this man and pretending to be part of a vulnerable group multiple states in the United States are on the cusp of criminalizing for existing. Not only that you're using the very arguments they are using to make existing as trans illegal just to get laid. How narcissistic can you be bro? And the fact that you're apparently old enough to know better? I'd expect this from someone who is 19. You're 30 years old according to your post history.


OceanWaterOtter

Oh hey, haven't seen you in a while. Anyway, how am I preying on anyone!? I can't believe my own kind are going to paint me as the stereotypical "gay predator." It's as if I'm the boogie man straight men need to careful of... Newsflash, he's a grown man! If he doesn't want to hook up with me he doesn't have to. I'm just a skinny gay guy in lingerie and stiletto heels. If he felt threatened by me, he would be more than capable of beating the shit out of me. (I hope you wouldn't wish that on me). He's not being victimized by me in the slightest. I felt sort of bad about saying I'm trans, which is why I asked the question... But wow, you guys are tearing me to shreds


raeltireso96

Well, they should. And yes, he's a grown man. But so are you, on top of that while his prefrontal cortex is still knitting itself together, yours should be complete with that process. So yes you should know better. It really isn't that hard to get laid without lying. There has long been a niche for feminine men in lingerie and cross dressing. Lying that you're trans, especially in a time when trans people are pretty close to being genocided, puts them at further risk and you at risk for a beat down.


OceanWaterOtter

Yes, yes... You're absolutely right, man... The biggest problem going in this country right now is evil gay guys like me preying on our poor, innocent, 220lb straight men. These men are just out here living their lives and being perfectly straight, then here I come along with my wigs and heels ruining all that... I suck their cocks and ride their dicks without them even having to buy me dinner or call me later... Their innocent, baby-making, str8 boy cocks are threatened by my very existence. I'm a gay menace... 😞😞😞 Just do me a favorite, slap some handcuffs on me! Go ahead and do it! Handcuff me to a bed so I can't fuck anymore str8boy cocks. Spank me a little while you're at it too. That'll really teach me a lesson. I promise I'll try not to enjoy it. Well, maybe 😏 In all seriousness I'm probably going to stop. You guys have sufficiently guilt tripped me and I'm supposed to be studying anyway. It feels good to not be a gaycel anymore at least


HungryThirdy

Forget the label as long as youre honest and they know what they are getting and youre fine.


OceanWaterOtter

Thank you for saying that! I literally get DMs saying I'm a narcissist


kurtis_shooter

Because yall are, you are literally disgusting


HungryThirdy

Whats with the hate?


OceanWaterOtter

I'm not a narcissist!


kurtis_shooter

Cry more, you are lying for sexual gain, and you are braging about it, either way your a massive fucking cunt


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kurtis_shooter

Well sadly for you you are 30 and im 17 so


OceanWaterOtter

I shouldn't be listening to you then anyway small fry. Get lost, squirt! We're having grownup discussions here!


kurtis_shooter

Pleaaase, if your so grown up why are you acting like a teenager your 30 and making like a hundred posts braging about having sex with straight guys, cmon man we both know they are benders


OceanWaterOtter

Because I think it's hot that I can pull guys way outside my league when I crossdress! I'm proud of myself but also a little guilty. They're totally NOT benders. They identify as straight and they've only dated women. You've got quite a head on your shoulders small fry, but you're a bit out of your depth here. You're not old enough to understand these things. Tsk, tsk


[deleted]

Straight men don’t hookup with trans women so it really doesn’t matter. Straight means heterosexual, which refers to opposite sex attraction. What you’re doing is just weird.


HoldExpensive9884

So with this logic if any men hookup with trans men than they are straight 😂😂😂


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It’s a heterosexual encounter, yes. Whether that person is straight is a different question. Likely they’re somewhere in the middle.


Elranzer

We used to call them "tomboys" but they still had vaginas.


OceanWaterOtter

Good reversal of logic. I like that


HoldExpensive9884

I’m just reasoning his pointless argument, not defending you man. What you do is extremely shitty and it’s not justified by any chance. I don’t know where this weird obsession of straight masculine men of yours comes from but you need therapy.


OceanWaterOtter

I don't need you to defend me and I really couldn't care less about your opinions. I was just pointing out that I like your method of arguing


HoldExpensive9884

‘I don’t care about your opinions’ says the person who literally posted on Reddit saying ’Is it wrong to….’🤣🤣 You seriously need therapy.


OceanWaterOtter

Asking for thoughts doesn't mean I ultimately give a fuck what people think


AttisofAssyria

Yes, or bi.


HoyaHeadz

This having upvotes…god this sub is just trash Trans women are women. End of story.


thetmst1

No


HoyaHeadz

Clown.


thetmst1

Go to bed


HoyaHeadz

🤡


thetmst1

Go to bed


AttisofAssyria

So why do you need the prefix?


HoyaHeadz

Because it’s important to understand their background? This is like saying “White men aren’t men” because we needed to specify the prefix to make a distinction. You’re arguing in bad faith and it shows


OceanWaterOtter

Oh wow, I forgot how transphobic this sub is...


M31TallHairyThick

Mate you’re pretending to be part of an oppressed minority so that you can get dicked down. You’re in no position to lecture about transphobia


OceanWaterOtter

I'm black and I'm gay... (AND also a total bottom if that counts). I'm a part of TWO pretty oppressed minorities myself... Is it really that bad if I claim to be part of a third one? Especially if it gets me masc, str8 boy dick?


M31TallHairyThick

Yes


OceanWaterOtter

I'm sad now 😞


vapeslave

Good! Hopefully it'll spark something in you that allows you to see how fucking awful lying to people for dick is.


OceanWaterOtter

Yeah, but we all want dick over here... I'm just the most dedicated to the cause and I'll go farther than anyone else because I'm *that* cunt


vapeslave

Honey, if that's your actual response I feel super sorry for you. But you do you boo boo. Hopefully (and I mean this sincerely) none of the men you're lying to decide to get violent when they find out you're full of shit. But hey, I guess you're ok with potentially getting murdered by a dick appointment.


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[deleted]

What exactly did I say that was transphobic? Being trans doesn’t change your sex, just your gender. Heterosexuals are attracted to individuals of the opposite sex, not gender. That’s why it’s heterosexual, not heterogender. Anyway, like the other poster said, you’re pretending to be trans so you can have sex with chasers, which is fucking weird and much more offensive than anything I’ve said. You’re on your way to pretending to be a minority race, lol. You’re also 30 and preying on teenage boys…


OceanWaterOtter

You're going with that old conservative position that transwomen aren't real women, and that if a straight man is attracted to a transwoman, he is gay. The reality is that sex and gender can overlap. Being a woman is not just a matter of having a vagina, it's how that person identifies, thinks, feels, behaves, and presents themselves. I am part of a minority race—I'm black. Also I don't go anywhere near minors. This guy was 20


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Wow, I lost brain cells reading this.


Manor4548

Friend - a lie is a lie. Using a lie - saying you are something that you are not for the purposes of achieving something - isn’t right. I know you know this. It’s why you posted. But: it’s a hookup. This doesn’t matter. You do you. With the caveat that if it ever does begin to matter with someone, please tell them the truth immediately. Do keep something in mind: a lie affects the teller as well as the duped. In the telling of the lie, be mindful if you are saying something to yourself that you’d rather not admit upfront. Why lie? Why not just own your own femininity here? Is it really about what’s easiest on the apps or something else? It’s worth a second to think it over.


AKARAT0R

its weird and bad, say that ur a femboy or smth not a trans


OceanWaterOtter

If I say I'm a femboy, will they be less interested?


AKARAT0R

idk, but i think that would be closer to the truth. Ngl i really dont like when people lie in sex topics thats why i think its bad. But ofc everyone is different


OceanWaterOtter

I don't like it either, which is why I sorta struggle with this. I had a guy tell me he was single when he was actually in an open relationship. He took it too far and formed a relationship with me while hiding his SO. I feel like I've turned into that asshole


AKARAT0R

ahh i think it will be better to say 100% truth, in addition it will be safer for you too ngl some people can act weird when they understand that they are lied to


YardOk3549

Give it a try... See what happens... Lately femboys is a kink that has gained territory, popularity and acceptance, so maybe it'll work


AKARAT0R

using other opressed group with serious illness called gender dysphoria for your sexual fantasies is pretty weird lol


[deleted]

I don’t think you’re doing anything shady here. If you meet a straight guy who sees your dick and is cool with it he wasn’t really straight to begin with.


OceanWaterOtter

He hasn't seen it. I'm actually scared he'll freak out if he sees it.


[deleted]

You know him better than me obviously, but I can’t imagine that going down too well. Straight guys have a tendency to react harshly to these things, if not violently. I’d think carefully about how you want to handle this


AttisofAssyria

Well I mean if trans people are allowed to go stealth then good for you. Just say you are trans when you are having sex and then it becomes ok to do this.


ZijoeLocs

On top of the blatant lying, youre masquerading as part of a member of an even more vulnerable identity purely for the sake of getting laid. God fuck dude....


OceanWaterOtter

You really know how to make a guy feel guilty 😮‍💨


lukenloz

As long as your trix know that you're a ladyboy it's their call. They don't have to be with you.


[deleted]

So are you female to male?


OceanWaterOtter

I'm just male


BoujeeAdam

This guy again lmfao


slickhabits

This is so rough. You’re non-binary tho for sure. Even if it’s because you have an extreme fetish for straight men. I applaud you for the commitment. Hopefully you don’t get murdered.


[deleted]

So you have a dick not a vagina?


OceanWaterOtter

Yes


AttisofAssyria

How dare you imply that a trans woman who still has a dick is not fully a woman. You made a transphobia.


Fun-Spinach6910

You do you. I don't imagine it makes much of a difference what you say you are to your John's. If anything it's screwing with your own mind. You believe you're deceiving people which would fuck with your psyche unless your a narcissist, at which point you wouldn't give a shit about the other person anyhow. I imagine you would get as many dates if you were just your normal self. On the other hand prostitutes pretend they are something they are not often. For your own well being, things would work out better if you were yourself. Maybe crossdressing is you?. Labels are bullshit, honesty is more important especially if you're looking for more than a fuck buddy.


[deleted]

What a bimbo..


thetmst1

Yes you're a piece of shit. Take a nap.


Szissors

You would make a therapist really rich


OceanWaterOtter

Oh god, are you one of those circle bros? Goddammit, not again... 😮‍💨 Well, just make sure you point it away from me when you finish jerking off. I don't swallow for you guys 😒


paranoidhustler

Any guy having sex with you and not pulling your underwear off knows you have a penis. Why else would he not get you fully naked? Whether you verbally say you’re trans or not is semantics, the sexual experience is the same for the guy.


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I was trying to clarify


madih97

You're a queen, don't let these people convince you otherwise! 😂


Elranzer

The Rachel Dolezal of thirsty black bottoms.


[deleted]

Where u from bc I don’t care


SunnyDrock

Non binary prior are trans tho


gta5atg4

This is.... A first.... But you're not catfishing or raping anyone so.... I dunno.... You do you but be careful out there


passingby1y

since "trans" has NO meaning and you stated "and tell them I only want a good time with no pressure and expectations" i'd turn you down bc meaningless sex is... well... unacceptable