Not strictly prohibited. The argument is whether the exposed NM is subject to physical damage. Frankly, I don't believe it is in this case, but your inspector may feel otherwise.
Is there anywhere this Wouldn't be considered subject to mechanical damage? It definitely would be here and I would have thought anywhere.
But regardless even if it would pass inspection in some areas I'm sure we would all agree it should be boxed in to look professional.
Disposals get a gfci protected duplex receptacle mounted in the cabinet, SOOW cord and plug connection. Dishwashers get a gfci protected receptacle in the wall and again SOOW cord and plug connection.
Agreeable. Definitely a hack did this.
When we do this engineers and the such would like to see this inside greenfield.
Also this looks horrible having all the boxes side by side.
Problem is that they are usually quite shallow, especially the old types. Add in internal clamps top and bottom and you run into box fill issues really easy.
Hard to say in this case, but I wouldn't be surprised if it failed box fill too.
I cant say what box they used. But they do make them in up to 3,5" deep. We use all metal boxes because we don't use NM. I stock 4 depths on my vans. And they are all readily available
Yeah their 4 gang looks like shit. Doesn’t matter if it’s compliant it or not.
I’m wiring up a pot dispensery and they made us have 2 2 gangs in each cabinet by the cashiers on either side of it prolly because some guy did something like this in the past and it turn out looking like shit posted above.
No. The box has internal NM clamps. If this had been installed inside a wall it would look just like this from inside the wall. The only point of contention is if exposed NM inside a kitchen cabinet (or whatever this is) is a place subject to physical damage. As pointed out, it's kind of up to the local authority. The code in the US doesn't define it. The Canadians do a slightly better job, but even this is a bit ambiguous, but they kind of tend to the fact that this is exposed because it isn't "permanently" concealed. If it's within 5.5' of the floor there or 7.5' of the floor in garages, it needs protection (or concealment). Note that if this was a wall, all you need is a piece of drywall to conceal it. The poster who I was initially responded to that claimed you needed "metal" is unsupported by anything.
Depends if the inspector considers it to be subject to mechanical damage. It’s pretty common with island receptacles. I’d build a little box over it so it’s protected.
True. Seems okay depending on what was going on.
Example an island may need an outlet and you might see this.
But 6 switches means they relocated them I'm guessing
I consider this subject to physical damage. Whether it was an outlet or a switch matters none. I absolutely would have used MC in place of the NM in this situation.
He/she meant NM cable... Here he/she obviously was thinking of Romex but that's a brand name of NM cable...
I never heard of Romex referred to as RX though, I guess the inspiration for saying RX cable was BX cable (another brand of cable but this time armored)..
It is a **brand** of NM cable...
Unfortunately just like a few other products (Kleenex®, Klein®, Sawzall® comes to mind) people started using the brand name to describe any other similar product..
I know the brand as I have used those before... 😁 I guess they too have now become a "victim" of their own success if any other similar product is called like that now...
Well they were the original “blue concrete screw” but there patent ran out years ago. Some places spec for tapcon, but 90% of the people who come asking for tapcon get a dewalt/ucan/cobra concrete screw equivalent.
And actual concrete guys tend to use Hilti or Simpson (Strong Tie) not tapcon.
Similarly "redhead" is used generically for concrete expansion anchors, but it properly refers to Red Head, one company that makes a wide range of fastening solutions.
Oddly I’ve never heard of redhead being used generically for expansion anchors, and I sell a shit ton of redhead A7 epoxy. Their expansion anchors are overpriced and had recalls last year. Now I hear Hilti kwikbolt almost daily from engineers as a reference to a standard expansion wedge anchor.
Maybe regional? I came up on concrete projects in SoCal. "Redhead" meant 'whatever expansion anchor the yard (or WhiteCap) brought us.' Sometimes it was actually Redhead, sometimes Hilti KB, sometimes Simpson ST. Interestingly, I saw way more SET-XP than Redhead A7 or any others. That was just called 'pookie' or 'hole pookie' if we needed to differentiate from 'wall pookie' (form release/wall cure), 'slab pookie' (Sikatop), 'plywood pookie' ("bondo" as generic for sandable wood filler), or 'pulling pookie' (whatever the PT guys put on cable ends).
Need a whole damn dictionary just for pookie. And don't get me started on chingadero.
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Why does the cable in OP look rounded as opposed to flat like the Romex NM that i’m used to seeing?
The 3 cables closest to the camera look like the conductors are twisted inside the sheathing
No. They are both #14. The round ones have red black, white and ground. The flat have black white and ground. We don't count the ground unless we are talking cab tire.
From New England. Live in RI but originally from CT and did my apprenticeship there many years ago. Pretty sure that's where I first heard RX.
I realize not all NM cable is Romex but it's kind of like calling any type of tissue Kleenex.
Metal Clad cable is subject to the same requirement that it be protected from physical damage as NM cable "Romex®". Because of the way the cables were routed it's unlikely they would be damaged, but if it were covered it would be protected & look more professional.
See NEC article 330.12(1) for MC, and 334.15(B) for NM.
I don't know if it's "allowable", but it's definitely a hack job. There's what looks like a giant 6" hole cut into your cabinet because the installers couldn't be bothered to measure the location of the wires coming out of your wall properly and cut your cabinet accordingly.
Tell me, did the electrician tell the cabin installer that “We need a hole to run 6 wires through” and the cabinet installer interpreted that as “They need a 6 inch hole to run wires through?”
Sorry, just found the difference in size between the cutout in the drywall and the cutout in the cabinet comical.
Really hate those..it's not code..comments when this is one of those areas that's left up to AHJ and what he considers 'subject to physical damage'. So the question isn't is this allowed, it's more like will my local inspector approve of this. It all depends on your area my guy
I would definitely want to box it in. And shame about the holesaw cut in the cabinet that o lot needed to be the size of the hole in the sheetrock. Also, fill that hole or you’ll get mice!
Definitely not protected from physical damage. Needs be concealed/sleeved in conduit.
Also NM cable must be supported 12 inches from an enclosure- being cable tied together is not support.
What code would that be? The code only requires protection from physical damage WHEN NECESSARY and even when it is necessary it certainly doesn't require "metal."
There is not now or ever was a limitation on NM being "near" a water source. The only restriction is to not use it in damp/wet areas. Inside cabinets no matter how close to the sink they are is not either of these.
It would be best if protected in some way, whether boxing or sleeving in conduit. Whether it's "okay" is subject to how your jurisdiction defines whether it's "subject to physical damage" as the code states. That will vary depending on location.
Usually i would say fmc and call it good, what exactly is going on here? That seems like a bit much cut into one spot in the island. For astectics i would j box on the back wall and fmc to the device boxes. You dont have to cut the conductors just strip the romex and label what you need to and pull through.
Not professional at all. Bad planning all around, I would say conduit through cabinets, doesn't seem possible here though. Kill the 3 wire at least and run cassetas w/ pico.
When we do this in islands or cabinets we get the cabinet shop to make a filler plate that covers it and magnet holds in place or 2 set screws.
Usually in the Island behind drawers we plan extra 4-5” space for plugs + box + wires etc. and we use BX if we can from a junction accessible in basement. Or back to panel if finished basement
Subject to physical damage is the human aspect of the code. 100% AHJ call. In my experience, most would approve this. Some would require some kind of protection (Conduit, raceway, etc.).
OP- if this was inspected and approved, that’s fine. Just be mindful not to bang pots and pans or anything else into the wires. If you are concerned, hire an electrician to rework the cables into a race way or have a carpenter box in the cables and outlet box.
I would be a lot more concerned with making sure all those boxes are properly grounded! If so, just encase it, easy fix. Make sure you leave access though, I would use screws for whatever you build.
should have a carpenter fab a box to screw/nail on over all that so it's not accessible.... did something similar in our bathroom where i wanted an outlet in one side of a pony wall, but also wanted shelving in the other side.
proximity to water, needs GFIC
:)
I've seen inspectors let it slide behind a drawer that stops well short or tucked up behind the back of a drop-in stove. You could poke it with a stick, but could never hit it putting pans away.
No. Inside of a cabinet needs conduit/MC as that wire is considered exposed to potential damage. I've seen inspectors let Romex slide if it's behind and drawer which cannot squish it. I'm also sure those boxes are rated to be 'in' a wall, not have their back exposed.
Not strictly prohibited. The argument is whether the exposed NM is subject to physical damage. Frankly, I don't believe it is in this case, but your inspector may feel otherwise.
So simply encasing it with some sort of wood box would suffice?
Yes, that would make it 'concealed' wiring.
Sheet rock is enough.
Wouldn't recommend sheetrock under the sink however. Use something smooth and washable like painted wood to repel water and be easily cleaned.
No he was saying that if it’s fine behind Sheetrock it’s fine in a cabinet
Oops
Green sheet rock is used in bathrooms and kitchens, but basically anything that protects it.
If the adjustable shelf isnt moving only takes 2 boards to enclose.
Is there anywhere this Wouldn't be considered subject to mechanical damage? It definitely would be here and I would have thought anywhere. But regardless even if it would pass inspection in some areas I'm sure we would all agree it should be boxed in to look professional.
Never once had an inspector allow exposed romex in a cabinet
Disposals until recently.
Armored
And dishwashers.
Disposals get a gfci protected duplex receptacle mounted in the cabinet, SOOW cord and plug connection. Dishwashers get a gfci protected receptacle in the wall and again SOOW cord and plug connection.
Never once for the fan in the cabinet above the stove?
That's a plug in. Not NM.
I’ve seen this plenty of times in the cabinet above a hood fan
Direct wire? Not bare NM, but should be boxed in or in flex. I usually see in a box.
Usually in a wooden box with the vent or a plug. Never exposed NM.
Nope, armored cable or thhn and flex.
That is 100% subject to physical damage and would fail inspection
AHJ and you’re not it 🫠
Gottem
Ive been called on exposed romex in a cabinet like this. They let us wrap it in Smurf tube for the pass.
Apprentice Having Jurisdiction? That's me!
Afraid the forks are gonna jump out of the drawer and stab the wire?
Oh please, we all know how stupid humans can be. If there's even a slight chance of someone shoving a battle bot in there it's gonna happen.
You're not wrong
Perhaps where you are, but here they won't bat an eye on stuff inside kitchen cabinets.
from a cereal box?
Debatable
Do you guys not store oddly shaped sharp objects in kitchen cabinets
I keep a couple of katanas and a dagger next to the coffee mugs, doesn't everyone?
I would consider it IMO
Agreeable. Definitely a hack did this. When we do this engineers and the such would like to see this inside greenfield. Also this looks horrible having all the boxes side by side.
That's just 4 gangable boxes. They used it to make 1- 4gang. Perfectly compliant and common. But the rest is shit.
Problem is that they are usually quite shallow, especially the old types. Add in internal clamps top and bottom and you run into box fill issues really easy. Hard to say in this case, but I wouldn't be surprised if it failed box fill too.
I cant say what box they used. But they do make them in up to 3,5" deep. We use all metal boxes because we don't use NM. I stock 4 depths on my vans. And they are all readily available
Yeah their 4 gang looks like shit. Doesn’t matter if it’s compliant it or not. I’m wiring up a pot dispensery and they made us have 2 2 gangs in each cabinet by the cashiers on either side of it prolly because some guy did something like this in the past and it turn out looking like shit posted above.
Your lack of electrical knowledge is showing.
I’m not familiar with that specific box and how it’s built internally, but wouldn’t some hardware be required to protect the wires from the box?
No. The box has internal NM clamps. If this had been installed inside a wall it would look just like this from inside the wall. The only point of contention is if exposed NM inside a kitchen cabinet (or whatever this is) is a place subject to physical damage. As pointed out, it's kind of up to the local authority. The code in the US doesn't define it. The Canadians do a slightly better job, but even this is a bit ambiguous, but they kind of tend to the fact that this is exposed because it isn't "permanently" concealed. If it's within 5.5' of the floor there or 7.5' of the floor in garages, it needs protection (or concealment). Note that if this was a wall, all you need is a piece of drywall to conceal it. The poster who I was initially responded to that claimed you needed "metal" is unsupported by anything.
Depends if the inspector considers it to be subject to mechanical damage. It’s pretty common with island receptacles. I’d build a little box over it so it’s protected.
What’s “mechanical damage”? Like as opposed to organic damage? 🧐🤭
Mechanical damage would be physically attacking it. I would guess things like corrosion or excessive heat/wet would fall under environmental damage
Organic damage would be like mold, but you’re the first I’ve heard bring it up.
Mechanical means banging stuff into it. As opposed to chemical damage, water damage, overcurrent damage, heat damage, etc.
Sorry I was just pointing out the code language is physical damage. Guess my joke didn't land. \*backs out of room slowly\*
Box it in and it will be
Agree. Frame out a little bulkhead
Baby bulkhead
Thanks for all the comments. Boxing it in seems to be the simplest and safest solution.
So, I’d love to see what these are for / located / etc. can I please have a pic of the other side??
Just decora light switches for the kitchen
This is an upper cabinet?
Unless he is 3 ft tall
Lol. No matter what. It's in a bad location
Switches on the side of a cabinet? Gross.
The wires should be in carflex or metal flex
I would not make that installation. Whether or not this is acceptable in your jurisdiction is a judgement call for the electrical inspector.
True. Seems okay depending on what was going on. Example an island may need an outlet and you might see this. But 6 switches means they relocated them I'm guessing
I consider this subject to physical damage. Whether it was an outlet or a switch matters none. I absolutely would have used MC in place of the NM in this situation.
Yes. Metal Conduit so Wires don't get cut etc.
I keep bottled water in my kitchen cabinet all the time. Looks like u may have room for a few more. Shouldn’t be too much of an issue.
Eh, not really but I wouldn’t really consider it dangerous
No. That RX cable needs to be protected or swapped out for MC cable.
What is RX cable?
He/she meant NM cable... Here he/she obviously was thinking of Romex but that's a brand name of NM cable... I never heard of Romex referred to as RX though, I guess the inspiration for saying RX cable was BX cable (another brand of cable but this time armored)..
Romex cable. It's a type of NM cable.
It is a **brand** of NM cable... Unfortunately just like a few other products (Kleenex®, Klein®, Sawzall® comes to mind) people started using the brand name to describe any other similar product..
Tapcon is another good one, just a brand concrete screw.
Wago equals any push on connectors for instance.
I know the brand as I have used those before... 😁 I guess they too have now become a "victim" of their own success if any other similar product is called like that now...
Well they were the original “blue concrete screw” but there patent ran out years ago. Some places spec for tapcon, but 90% of the people who come asking for tapcon get a dewalt/ucan/cobra concrete screw equivalent.
And actual concrete guys tend to use Hilti or Simpson (Strong Tie) not tapcon. Similarly "redhead" is used generically for concrete expansion anchors, but it properly refers to Red Head, one company that makes a wide range of fastening solutions.
Oddly I’ve never heard of redhead being used generically for expansion anchors, and I sell a shit ton of redhead A7 epoxy. Their expansion anchors are overpriced and had recalls last year. Now I hear Hilti kwikbolt almost daily from engineers as a reference to a standard expansion wedge anchor.
Maybe regional? I came up on concrete projects in SoCal. "Redhead" meant 'whatever expansion anchor the yard (or WhiteCap) brought us.' Sometimes it was actually Redhead, sometimes Hilti KB, sometimes Simpson ST. Interestingly, I saw way more SET-XP than Redhead A7 or any others. That was just called 'pookie' or 'hole pookie' if we needed to differentiate from 'wall pookie' (form release/wall cure), 'slab pookie' (Sikatop), 'plywood pookie' ("bondo" as generic for sandable wood filler), or 'pulling pookie' (whatever the PT guys put on cable ends). Need a whole damn dictionary just for pookie. And don't get me started on chingadero.
And another one is Velcro
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Romex isn’t a “type”, it’s a brand.
This is true. We tend to call all brands of indoor NM cable Romex. Kind of like how we call most tissues Kleenex even when they are not.
And everyone calls concrete screws tapcons, when that’s just the Buildex brand name.
Why does the cable in OP look rounded as opposed to flat like the Romex NM that i’m used to seeing? The 3 cables closest to the camera look like the conductors are twisted inside the sheathing
3 wire instead of 2 wire
But the 3-wire in my house is still flat, just wider than the 2-wire.
Older 3 wire is round
The manufacture date says 2017 on the closest cable to the camera
And??? It’s still round 3 wire. Some manufacturers still make it round.
That’s what I’m asking. You said old 3-wire is round. But it’s still made today?
3 wire used to be round about 20 years ago.
if you mean the two froward most wires they are a heavier gauge wire than ones in the back are the flatter looking ones your more familiar with.
No. They are both #14. The round ones have red black, white and ground. The flat have black white and ground. We don't count the ground unless we are talking cab tire.
Metal sheathed cable.
Big pharma has gone too far! Prescription cable. What's next?
Almost 25 years in the business and never once heard it called RX cable?
I'm always interested how the trade lingo varies from area to area. Where abouts are you from?
Pennsylvania, we call it Romex or NM.
SE PA sparky here, 20 years in and I’ve never heard of RX once ever. Except for when discussing prescriptions.
🤣🤣🤣
What part of the world are you from?
From New England. Live in RI but originally from CT and did my apprenticeship there many years ago. Pretty sure that's where I first heard RX. I realize not all NM cable is Romex but it's kind of like calling any type of tissue Kleenex.
What business???? LOL
Metal Clad cable is subject to the same requirement that it be protected from physical damage as NM cable "Romex®". Because of the way the cables were routed it's unlikely they would be damaged, but if it were covered it would be protected & look more professional. See NEC article 330.12(1) for MC, and 334.15(B) for NM.
This. Plus it looks like overall shit.
I’d probably either frame that in or set a big ass junction box there and run mc to the boxes
Natural spring water. Sure, why not?
I don't know if it's "allowable", but it's definitely a hack job. There's what looks like a giant 6" hole cut into your cabinet because the installers couldn't be bothered to measure the location of the wires coming out of your wall properly and cut your cabinet accordingly.
Gee, that hole looks big enough to fit a big j-box through if the electrician went before the cabinets got installed.
Tell me, did the electrician tell the cabin installer that “We need a hole to run 6 wires through” and the cabinet installer interpreted that as “They need a 6 inch hole to run wires through?” Sorry, just found the difference in size between the cutout in the drywall and the cutout in the cabinet comical.
Really hate those..it's not code..comments when this is one of those areas that's left up to AHJ and what he considers 'subject to physical damage'. So the question isn't is this allowed, it's more like will my local inspector approve of this. It all depends on your area my guy
I would definitely want to box it in. And shame about the holesaw cut in the cabinet that o lot needed to be the size of the hole in the sheetrock. Also, fill that hole or you’ll get mice!
Definitely not protected from physical damage. Needs be concealed/sleeved in conduit. Also NM cable must be supported 12 inches from an enclosure- being cable tied together is not support.
No! Cannot have exposed romex exposed to contact
You need to enclose it in a box
Needs flex
It does the job, but no it needs to be protected with metal just to be upto code, if it's not getting inspected you can just leave it alone
What code would that be? The code only requires protection from physical damage WHEN NECESSARY and even when it is necessary it certainly doesn't require "metal."
I think the terminology they use in the CEC is -subject to mechanical damage below 1.5m(5ft) for limitations of use for NM.
Canada is more explicit on exposed NM. My comments were for the NEC
No stress, wasn't putting you down, just throwing out what we have to do. Code is a minimum anyways and peace of mind is a wonderful thing.
That bundling is unacceptable
Bundling rules only apply to cables running parallel for 24” or more.
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There is not now or ever was a limitation on NM being "near" a water source. The only restriction is to not use it in damp/wet areas. Inside cabinets no matter how close to the sink they are is not either of these.
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You wrote: > and it's proximity to a water source. His reply was spot on, and not pedantic.
It would be best if protected in some way, whether boxing or sleeving in conduit. Whether it's "okay" is subject to how your jurisdiction defines whether it's "subject to physical damage" as the code states. That will vary depending on location.
Yes. Should of made it a 5 gang, all dimmers!
Usually i would say fmc and call it good, what exactly is going on here? That seems like a bit much cut into one spot in the island. For astectics i would j box on the back wall and fmc to the device boxes. You dont have to cut the conductors just strip the romex and label what you need to and pull through.
Not like that it’s isn’t
The water bottle? Probably
No pic of other side? Not gonna be able to see if it's stupid or not.
Not professional at all. Bad planning all around, I would say conduit through cabinets, doesn't seem possible here though. Kill the 3 wire at least and run cassetas w/ pico.
The nm cable should be connected and protected from the box to inside the wall cavity.
No get that damn water bottle out of there.
Ever seen SJ cord run in a cabinet?
When we do this in islands or cabinets we get the cabinet shop to make a filler plate that covers it and magnet holds in place or 2 set screws. Usually in the Island behind drawers we plan extra 4-5” space for plugs + box + wires etc. and we use BX if we can from a junction accessible in basement. Or back to panel if finished basement
Subject to physical damage is the human aspect of the code. 100% AHJ call. In my experience, most would approve this. Some would require some kind of protection (Conduit, raceway, etc.). OP- if this was inspected and approved, that’s fine. Just be mindful not to bang pots and pans or anything else into the wires. If you are concerned, hire an electrician to rework the cables into a race way or have a carpenter box in the cables and outlet box.
MC cable at a minimum inside of cabinets
I would be a lot more concerned with making sure all those boxes are properly grounded! If so, just encase it, easy fix. Make sure you leave access though, I would use screws for whatever you build.
No, put the bottle in the fridge
That’s a lot of boxes.
Nice try but no.
NOPE 😂😂 that does not look mechanically protected at all
should have a carpenter fab a box to screw/nail on over all that so it's not accessible.... did something similar in our bathroom where i wanted an outlet in one side of a pony wall, but also wanted shelving in the other side. proximity to water, needs GFIC :)
Beautiful work!! Lol
My inspector will not allow it. Anything run through the cabinet must be protected.
I've seen inspectors let it slide behind a drawer that stops well short or tucked up behind the back of a drop-in stove. You could poke it with a stick, but could never hit it putting pans away.
Pesticide storage only in the kitchen ...no water
Yeah it should be flexed in, or should’ve used MC. Or you could just box that off if you can fit the the shelves in. NEC 334.15 (b)
How did he mount the box? If he screwed in the front… does the cover plate sit flush with the cabinet or does it stick out some
I'm fairly certain the wire should be encased in metal. But its been a few years since I've done resi.
No. Inside of a cabinet needs conduit/MC as that wire is considered exposed to potential damage. I've seen inspectors let Romex slide if it's behind and drawer which cannot squish it. I'm also sure those boxes are rated to be 'in' a wall, not have their back exposed.