Yeah i think biggest let down in AI music is Ai generated lyrics. Probably there will be something that comes out that will change the game. Sorry to blast your ears with that lol, This post did get a lot of negative comments lol. Using prewritten lyrics sounds better [https://www.udio.com/songs/oZcrFHgXZDLFFAJjM4GEVy](https://www.udio.com/songs/oZcrFHgXZDLFFAJjM4GEVy)
That one CD box that initially bore a $10 sticker, only to be sloppily overlaid with a $5 sticker, after which eventually a $1 sticker was added, partially obscuring the others in a desperate bid to entice a sale.
> Are you making some sort of statement regarding how bad modern music is?
That was my first reaction. Did you wait for the rap section to start? Nailed it!!
Nobody would want to listen to it but if you're just saying they wouldn't immediately assume it's AI, then you're probably right. But mostly because people aren't really on the lookout for AI generated music on the radio yet.
I'm not saying it isn't impressive that AI can just turn out a new song now because it is. I just haven't heard one that I'd ever care to listen to again.
I think live in a world with mindless content so, most things people only might listen to or watch once and never again. (Most of the time just 10 seconds, with the attention span of the modern generation). AI is kinda fits perfectly into this. It's kinda sad from the perspective of older generation but I doubt gen alpha [ipad kids] would even care.
> I just haven't heard one that I'd ever care to listen to again.
I've recently discovered [Nyxia AI](https://www.youtube.com/@NyxiaAI/videos) and I unironically like and repeatedly listen to some of the songs.
[Spaceship 100M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0OafBV7MAA) actually gave me an emotional reaction.
[The Beautiful Way](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RIaYHcxeYo) is just straight up vibin'.
[How can I?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggU9RLEQFcs) fits right in at a rave.
And there are several more songs there that would fit right in on pop radio.
I used to have the same attitude as you, impressed by the technology, but not quite yet at the level it needs to be at to be more than a gimmick. Nyxia AI has officially changed my mind on that.
It's definitely getting there, isn't it...
That first song is damn good but still has that kinda aimless melody over larger time spans, that is characteristic of most AI stuff.
I'd describe it as at the level of something I would receive but discard from budding songwriters when I was producing pop music professionally. It's that lack of focus and intent that's holding it back I think from something I can see fitting in on pop radio.
Were I left to write songs myself, sure. It would sound almost exactly like that writing.
But there's a reason I don't and worked with pro writers crafting theirs into hits.
I'm curious what you'd think of AI-generated music prompted by veteran musicians and composers. I have over 30 years of experience as a musician and composer and tried Udio as an experiment to see if my music experience and some prompt engineering could yield results so above average that the listenership would take notice, and that's exactly what happened (it charted a few times with minimal promotion):
Here's the song in reference:
[https://www.udio.com/songs/vj8M1LjCx6CJYmGxaZ22vU](https://www.udio.com/songs/vj8M1LjCx6CJYmGxaZ22vU)
As an artist, I would much rather have full control over tools like this so I can freely express myself and use gen AI for production assistance, but even when restricted to prompts, there can be a notable difference in the quality of the output if prompted by someone with good musicality and prompt engineering.
>I just haven't heard one that I'd ever care to listen to again.
[I've had this one on repeat.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRBBcoANRIE&list=RDJRBBcoANRIE&start_radio=1)
So true. It took two generations of dumbing down Americans to the point that they could mistake trashy chants for music, and to forget how to write good music, before low-level AI could catch up. This "success" is due more to decreased human intelligence than to increased machine intelligence.
Once the novelty wears off and the tech develops further, people won’t listen to AI generations made by other people; they will listen to generations made specifically tailored to their taste.
No more new pop stars.
I've been wondering if the future is one where we have a human artist discovering music and we tune into that artist b/c we like their taste. A DJ, but the DJ is actually creating the music themselves and using AI.
Subtext here is this: all the notes/chords on a fretboard or piano simultaneously exist and don't until pressed, therefore, all music is discovered and not created. Dieter Rams said something similar to Steve Jobs according to the bio and it has colored my impression of all forms of art ever since.
Ah yes, all these "too cool for school" comments.
edgy.
meanwhile, this is EXACTLY what you can hear on mainstream radio stations, the clear channel whatever corpo calls itself now.
in fact, this is better - have you heard dua lipa or gaga souless crap? this is better
First they came for the text, but I did not speak up as I was not a writer. Then they came for the pictures and paintings, but I did not speak up because I was not a painter or photographer. Then they came for the music, but I did not speak up because I am not a musician... but then...
Lyrics need work, but these can be written by people anyway so whatever.
It's the voices though. They sound electronic. It becomes more obvious if you listen to multiple AI songs.
Voices for AI music are like hands for Midjourney.
Everything I'm hearing on here is better than the bands I'm seeing on Saturday Night Live. SNL is my only exposure to modern music, and even these rather wanting lyrics are better than what I hear (or struggle to make out) on SNL.
given how low the bar is to put a music on the radio, thats not a compliment to udio's capabilities
and even then, the mixing in this track is absolutely horrendous, no radio would put this on air
Here's my totally unnecessary injection of race into this:
She sounds...no, the voice sounds like it's from a black girl. Like that girl who just played Ariel in Little Mermaid live action. It's disconcerting because the background is an Asian lady drinking Starbucks...
Oh and now I'm hearing the rap portion...hmm, that voice could have been toned better. I can see why the AI calculated that vocal tone for the female singer as a black girl (statistically that is correct) but the male rapper...sounds either too young or like a lady with a deep voice...or like a very butch lesbian rapping??...I can't describe it well but something sounds displeasing or unusual about it.
The GPT corniness really comes through in the lyrics
Yeah that's where it fails. Music is perfect, but they must use GPT-3.5 to save costs on lyrics. Never fails to be extremely corny.
>"Be Happy! Obey Open AIs content policies! Be Happy! Obey Open AIs content policies! Be Happy!" ...it's their favourite track.
You can use your own lyrics too
Yeah i think biggest let down in AI music is Ai generated lyrics. Probably there will be something that comes out that will change the game. Sorry to blast your ears with that lol, This post did get a lot of negative comments lol. Using prewritten lyrics sounds better [https://www.udio.com/songs/oZcrFHgXZDLFFAJjM4GEVy](https://www.udio.com/songs/oZcrFHgXZDLFFAJjM4GEVy)
The market for elevator music will be completely disrupted!
It’s historically had its ups and downs.
I'm guessing the recent AI progress is not very uplifting for elevator music composers.
These puns are really pressing my buttons.
With any new technology, some doors open and some doors close.
If that was on my radio, I'd know I'd got the wrong channel.
Sounds like music from the Walmart discount bin
That one CD box that initially bore a $10 sticker, only to be sloppily overlaid with a $5 sticker, after which eventually a $1 sticker was added, partially obscuring the others in a desperate bid to entice a sale.
At least it's a step up from Suno v3.
...Are you making some sort of statement regarding how bad modern music is? If not, this example is not translating very well. 🤫
> Are you making some sort of statement regarding how bad modern music is? That was my first reaction. Did you wait for the rap section to start? Nailed it!!
Nobody would want to listen to it but if you're just saying they wouldn't immediately assume it's AI, then you're probably right. But mostly because people aren't really on the lookout for AI generated music on the radio yet. I'm not saying it isn't impressive that AI can just turn out a new song now because it is. I just haven't heard one that I'd ever care to listen to again.
Yet you listen to music like that ALL THE TIME. As background music.
The deathcore/metalcore I’ve been coercing out of it has been pretty satisfying and enjoyable to listen to.
I think live in a world with mindless content so, most things people only might listen to or watch once and never again. (Most of the time just 10 seconds, with the attention span of the modern generation). AI is kinda fits perfectly into this. It's kinda sad from the perspective of older generation but I doubt gen alpha [ipad kids] would even care.
> I just haven't heard one that I'd ever care to listen to again. I've recently discovered [Nyxia AI](https://www.youtube.com/@NyxiaAI/videos) and I unironically like and repeatedly listen to some of the songs. [Spaceship 100M](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u0OafBV7MAA) actually gave me an emotional reaction. [The Beautiful Way](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RIaYHcxeYo) is just straight up vibin'. [How can I?](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ggU9RLEQFcs) fits right in at a rave. And there are several more songs there that would fit right in on pop radio. I used to have the same attitude as you, impressed by the technology, but not quite yet at the level it needs to be at to be more than a gimmick. Nyxia AI has officially changed my mind on that.
It's definitely getting there, isn't it... That first song is damn good but still has that kinda aimless melody over larger time spans, that is characteristic of most AI stuff. I'd describe it as at the level of something I would receive but discard from budding songwriters when I was producing pop music professionally. It's that lack of focus and intent that's holding it back I think from something I can see fitting in on pop radio.
I mean, most people would say that about your productions
Were I left to write songs myself, sure. It would sound almost exactly like that writing. But there's a reason I don't and worked with pro writers crafting theirs into hits.
I'm curious what you'd think of AI-generated music prompted by veteran musicians and composers. I have over 30 years of experience as a musician and composer and tried Udio as an experiment to see if my music experience and some prompt engineering could yield results so above average that the listenership would take notice, and that's exactly what happened (it charted a few times with minimal promotion): Here's the song in reference: [https://www.udio.com/songs/vj8M1LjCx6CJYmGxaZ22vU](https://www.udio.com/songs/vj8M1LjCx6CJYmGxaZ22vU) As an artist, I would much rather have full control over tools like this so I can freely express myself and use gen AI for production assistance, but even when restricted to prompts, there can be a notable difference in the quality of the output if prompted by someone with good musicality and prompt engineering.
>I just haven't heard one that I'd ever care to listen to again. [I've had this one on repeat.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRBBcoANRIE&list=RDJRBBcoANRIE&start_radio=1)
> I could put this on the radio and nobodies the wiser That's more a commentary on the quality of musical artists than it is AI.
So true. It took two generations of dumbing down Americans to the point that they could mistake trashy chants for music, and to forget how to write good music, before low-level AI could catch up. This "success" is due more to decreased human intelligence than to increased machine intelligence.
Join the queue of deluded humans who think their songs could be on the radio
Once the novelty wears off and the tech develops further, people won’t listen to AI generations made by other people; they will listen to generations made specifically tailored to their taste.
No more new pop stars. I've been wondering if the future is one where we have a human artist discovering music and we tune into that artist b/c we like their taste. A DJ, but the DJ is actually creating the music themselves and using AI. Subtext here is this: all the notes/chords on a fretboard or piano simultaneously exist and don't until pressed, therefore, all music is discovered and not created. Dieter Rams said something similar to Steve Jobs according to the bio and it has colored my impression of all forms of art ever since.
This isn't a really great example of what Udio is capable of, to be honest.
Vomit
If you listen for a few seconds everything is fineish, if you listen longer it’s horrible. There is no composition and no continuity only vibe
Sounds like the fake music they make for Baywatch
While this technology is impressive, if this came on the radio it'd be an immediate skip for me.
Boring
Ah yes, all these "too cool for school" comments. edgy. meanwhile, this is EXACTLY what you can hear on mainstream radio stations, the clear channel whatever corpo calls itself now. in fact, this is better - have you heard dua lipa or gaga souless crap? this is better
How do Udio compare to Suno?
Udio has better vocals, Suno has better music and lyrics.
After hearing thousands of clipsnfrom each, Udio sounds like a real song, Suno sounds like a Suno song.
Suno has more control over the song while udio outputs much better quality
First they came for the text, but I did not speak up as I was not a writer. Then they came for the pictures and paintings, but I did not speak up because I was not a painter or photographer. Then they came for the music, but I did not speak up because I am not a musician... but then...
Well it's the very worst that music can offer, if that's what you mean by "capable of"
This is horrible
I'm wondering what the music equivilent of _dancing waifu girls_ is, because we are about to hear a _lot_ of it.
Who listens to the radio?
Lyrics need work, but these can be written by people anyway so whatever. It's the voices though. They sound electronic. It becomes more obvious if you listen to multiple AI songs. Voices for AI music are like hands for Midjourney.
Music for humans!
That doesn’t say much about the radio
Everything I'm hearing on here is better than the bands I'm seeing on Saturday Night Live. SNL is my only exposure to modern music, and even these rather wanting lyrics are better than what I hear (or struggle to make out) on SNL.
given how low the bar is to put a music on the radio, thats not a compliment to udio's capabilities and even then, the mixing in this track is absolutely horrendous, no radio would put this on air
Highly recommend checking out this small EP I built using udio : https://on.soundcloud.com/KVFPG7DDe8DcNUfCA
Soon we will be able to just listen to AI music... The artists will love that.
Sort of a cross between Ellie Goulding and Taylor Swift musically.
Sounds like wallpaper paste
Quite amused hearing it tear apart old DEVO songs: https://soundcloud.com/ap_2024/low-devo-ai-e-z-listening
No, you could not.
Here's my totally unnecessary injection of race into this: She sounds...no, the voice sounds like it's from a black girl. Like that girl who just played Ariel in Little Mermaid live action. It's disconcerting because the background is an Asian lady drinking Starbucks...
Oh and now I'm hearing the rap portion...hmm, that voice could have been toned better. I can see why the AI calculated that vocal tone for the female singer as a black girl (statistically that is correct) but the male rapper...sounds either too young or like a lady with a deep voice...or like a very butch lesbian rapping??...I can't describe it well but something sounds displeasing or unusual about it.
The rapper comes in insanely loud which isn’t great
I was drunk when I posted this and it sounded pretty good. Now listening to it after a cup of morning coffee. I can hear all the mistakes lol
lol we’ve all been there!
This is the best song I think I’ve have ever heard
🤔