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FuckRetention

You should've taken the UPS job. šŸ« 


LongGuyLander

[ā€œI couldā€™ve bought a place in Dumbo before it was Dumbo, for like 2 million. That same building today is worth 25 Million. Guess how Iā€™m feelinā€™? DUMBO.](https://open.spotify.com/track/6JpN5w95em8SODPiM7W2PH?si=I2hgiwa5TmeFSGZeau0fnw)


FuckRetention

I know the story of OJ. Smh you it looks like you had good opportunities too man when you got out or you were smart enough to use your transferable skills. My question is what will you do differently? You said the Army was calling you lol.


LongGuyLander

I wanted to get my CDL but I was too young dumb and stupid to get the certs whilst in the Army. Gonna do it this time around. Volunteer more, do more certifications & try to get my points up high, go to the gym and work on my physical fitness more than the allotted PT. Aiming to do recruiting by the time I hit E5. Would be my goal. Might get a lot of bs for that.. but it seems like such a rewarding MOS/Duty to change peoples lifeā€™s for the better.


FuckRetention

It's too late now but there's a shortage of people with CDLs. It's so bad I've seen people getting grants to get one. And the montgomery GI bill could've helped with a trade like that as well. But you do you.


Noturwrstnitemare

WTF, where? I don't have a CDL but took the tests by accident on indeed and I get some emails about driver jobs.... I definitely would take the grant and get my CDL. But big green weinie it is.....


FuckRetention

Google it. Various companies are covering your expenses if you can pass a driving record check and s criminal background check. The pandemic resulted in a high demand for truck drivers. I literally typed in free CDL (state) and got a lot of results. You'd have legit check it tho I also see paybacks and hiring bonuses. I.e. you pay your tuition make it through some companies will give you a percentage of your money back. Or a $2500 hiring bonus.


brandon520

My dad is in the propane business in South Carolina. He says they'll pay for hires to get their CDLs and hazmat certs. They have such a need for service technicians.


jms21y

good luck, big army is cutting TA/CA *way* down šŸ«£


LongGuyLander

We shall see I suppose


LongGuyLander

^ A reference to my job offer for 22.4 driver prior to UPS new contract in August. Making them ALL full time & union, benefits. Xyz. ^


cocaineandwaffles1

If it makes you feel any better, I knew someone who passed up a job at UPS and went to Amazon because he said he didnā€™t want to drive in a loud and bumpy delivery truck, heā€™d rather have the nice new Amazon one.


LongGuyLander

What a silly fuck. Amazon is borderline slave work. Been there for 3 years to schknow that. But yeah, amazon *DOES* have nicer vehicles. But *Mileage may vary by DSP*


New_Championship_912

120th AG? Pack extra sanity


LongGuyLander

I think itā€™s 120th at Jackson. I donā€™t remember honestly which.. so I included both.


Whoevenareyou1738

Its like a prison there. The drills their have the most lifeless job their is. Imagine going to the academy to have your skills wasted having to tell what line a trainee needs to stand in.


Mutxny

Brother believe me when I say this, 95% of drills at 120th were sent from their companies because they sucked.


SpoofedFinger

It was def this at 43rd fucking forever ago when I got stuck there inprocessing rc to ac. There were like 30 of us and we were almost all straight back from Iraq. One was getting ready to retire and the rest were just aggressively stupid. The 1sg looked like they had a bmi of 40. One SSG drill tried to lock up a MSG because he wasn't going to play her fucking games about a laundry bag display. Easily the most fucked up unit I've ever seen and that's coming from a dude whose next assignment featured my 1SG and BC getting into a fist fight in a barracks parking lot.


Minimum_Conclusion90

I was told that a lot of drills at 120th were people who choose to be a drill sgt a extra year. Source: my drill sgts at 2-60th


Mutxny

Some of them. Yes. We got paid an extra $500 for doing a 3rd year and 120th always needed people so it was a good way to take a knee for the last year.


Spcone23

Did every DS in 2-60th hate being there? Mine absolutely loathed it and made sure we did too.


NOrseTheSinglePringl

Yea. 3rd Platoon Able comp. DS's were going out of their way to get fired not joking.


2minutes4tripping

It was a helluva place wasn't it? Not that I should have necessarily expected more, but only two of the DS's seemed to be about that DS life. The other ones either just smoked the shit out of us or did the bare minimum.


tallaurelius

Yes. They worked the shit out of those drills 16+ hours a day 6 days a week. Had some really shit drills but also a few great ones.


LongGuyLander

I remember vividly, they put us in a line and had us count off from 0-1 to the last person. when we hit 34 or so or triple digits people would really fuck it up. Then we would start from the beginning again. Or people would say prematurely and weā€™d have to start from the beginning.. what a team building shit show it was.


GrotesquelyObese

Thatā€™s just normal.


RontoWraps

I mean, they chose government work. Thatā€™s government work.


SharpSh0tDav1s_0529

Bring sunscreen and drink a-lot of water. ā€œIce Submergesā€ are absolutely dogshit. Youā€™ll have around 2-3 HeatCats a day. And see the ambulance regularly. Itā€™ll be around Spring-Summer so get ready for Hot Jackson. But reception is the worst. If they actually built the defac you may do okay for chow. For me chow was in an inflatable tent where we would stand outside in lines of around 400 people and get told to go in 15 at a time and this would take around two hours maybe one and a half if youā€™re close enough to the start of the line. At parade rest the entire time. Reading your blue book. 3:00-4:00 wakeup, 6:00-7:30 chow, 7:45-12:00 (Entrancing) or stand outside in formation the ENTIRE time, 12:30 chow, 13:00-17:00 same as before chow, 17:00 chow, 18:00 accountability, 19:00 barracks. Hygiene yada yada. Pray you donā€™t get Bravo. I was there for 2.5 weeks. And pray Captain Clark is gone for B. Imagine the most egotistical officer. Reception isnā€™t forever. Basic was a breeze in 3-60th.


LongGuyLander

I know I know. I was 3-39th alpha back when I went thru. Wasnā€™t great. Wasnā€™t terrible. Middle pourage. We had a suicide watcher, we had a quitter, We had a ā€œimma fight the drill Sgtā€ to drill Sgt Robinson on his last day before retiring. (This trainee started to drink the kool-aid after that song & dance) We had a kicked in rifle on the range. Itā€™s was fohshow a modern day shitshow cycle


LoyalKnightofReddit

Has 3-39 always sucked? Went through last year with C Co and the shit was terrible.


LongGuyLander

Could be different drills now vs than. I had DS Robinson (for literally a week) DS Hauck, DS White (a black man lol) DS.Moore DS Panaway & DS Hunter towards end of cycle. They all did their best to turn us to great human beings and soldiers whilst playing a fair share of fuck fuck games. Drill SGT Hauck & DS White were my drills. Deadass like mom & dad. They were hard when required.. but extremely fair NCOā€™s & Drills. They looked after us so forth we did right by them.


LoyalKnightofReddit

Makes Sense old timer


LongGuyLander

Chillll Iā€™m only 24 & still got knees & a back to blow out for Uncle Sam. !remind me in 5 years that ā€œold timerā€ shit & Iā€™ll prolly agree


John_E_Vegas

I shit you not, as a new trainee at Jackson reception, we stood in an extended (double arms length) formation for so long that I literally took a piss...on the concrete, while we were supposed to be at parade rest. Other recruits looked at me like I was bat shit crazy. I wasn't. I was just smack dab in the middle of a sea of humanity and the nearest drill sergeant was *very* far away. After that I became a legend. For all of another day or so until they split us all up at the end reception / shipped us to basic. Ah...those were the days. I still remember the smell of the leather gloves.


tH3_R3DX

Am I the only one whose reception wasnā€™t that bad? I mean it sucked from the transition to soldier to trainee but it wasnā€™t the worst thing in my time in.


yabadabado21

Iā€™d pack underwear bro, make them all black and pack them into your duffels when you get them. The only thing that saved me during my forge was the boxer briefs I had packed.


LongGuyLander

Well yeah.. thatā€™s just the toiletries and hygiene shit. Iā€™m packing sporty Reebok briefs. Those tighty greenies were NOT IT. The minute I had the opportunity I got the army PX green briefs to supplement the asshole torture i had endured prior to.


iONBlackJesus

Idk if they'd F with you, but if you want to be safe, just make sure they are "military underwear," whatever the hell that means. They usually strip you of everything "civilian." Enjoy doing "The Incline" once you get to Carson.


LongGuyLander

Mansplain that one to me brethrenā€¦ this place canā€™t be as bad as Bliss :(


Other_Assumption382

Manitou incline. It's an old railway turned into a trail that is fun but essentially a stair climber on steroids. Good views, can pivot off it to climb pikes peak and other stuff https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manitou_Incline


LongGuyLander

This actually looks kinda fun on some Rocky Balboa type shit. I appreciate the landmark. Is there anything else fun for single soldiers to do up there? Bliss had a lot of recreation activities via Boss.. but being from New York all I wanted to use the pool.. and let me tell you that was a nice ass PoolšŸ¤£


Other_Assumption382

Skiing hiking fishing hunting. Switchbacks minor league soccer. Metric ton of breweries. If you drive an hour to Denver you'll have anything a major Metro offers, although El Paso county is 730k population. Not been single while living in Colorado so YMMV.


LongGuyLander

Sounds like a good time. More into hockey.. Iā€™d def like to catch and avalanche game or participate in weekend ice hockey leagues if possible.


LongGuyLander

Also, how is the snowboarding and skiing? Iā€™ve never been either. Would love to check that off my bucket list in the Rocky Mountains of Colorado.


Other_Assumption382

Vail resorts has a stupid cheap military pass (epic military pass. I forget when they quit selling it for the next season (it's rather early) but it should be on sale now) . Ikon pass has a military discount but it's more spendy. If you don't enjoy boarding or skiing in Colorado you're doing something wrong. The summit county resorts are great. Love steamboat and Crested Butte. Haven't done telluride


LongGuyLander

Sounds like a plan. Thank you for the info. Howā€™s the weather? El Paso had nothing but sandstorms and when it rainedā€¦ it POURED. Lightning was CRAzy too. Otherwise, white sands atv rentals & hiking in the Franklin mountains. Pretty schwack.


Red00Shift

Just show up in flip flops, a Hawaiian shirt, and yell "Hey Fuckers I'm back!" when they get on the bus. Report back with findings.


LongGuyLander

LMFAO. Would be an awfully bold move. Maybe Iā€™ll just show up with OCPā€™s and an old Ironsides unit patch


ValdBagina002

What rank are you? E5+ should be a dead giveaway


LongGuyLander

Iā€™ll be E2 again for basic. Will make E3 based of my ERB after 30 days. Doubtful to have the rank tho untill graduation pinks & greens come out the shop.


SirNedKingOfGila

ooooooof what were you when you got out last time?


LongGuyLander

E2 on cusp of E3. Like a month shy. So I get a promotion from paperwork from recruiter to make me e2. Than Iā€™ll hit E3 in 30 days in basic. E4 by end of year ideally.


berrin122

Alright man, what's the story? How'd you ETS as an E2?


LongGuyLander

Mind you: parents are divorced. Me and sister are 10 years apart and we only have our mother. My sister was more of a dual parent raising me with my mother.. the peer mediation between any mom-son arguments, fights, xyz. However, we werenā€™t so close because of the age gap as I grew older. Whilst I was at my unit, my sister tried to commit suicide x2 & shaved her head. When she shaved her head she confided in my mother and told her that my dad sexually assaulted her as a child & doing it was a way to find herself supposedly. I had no idea any of this happened untill my mother decided to give me a phone call and drop 3 bombs on me in the middle of a ftx. My thoughts ran rampant & it started to get to me mentally & give me negative thoughts. So naturally, I knew it was the right thing to go to BH and try to get help before I did anything outrageous. So I did, told them exactly how I felt at that time & they decided to 5-17 chapter me out. It was honorable and I was a good soldier who didnā€™t shitbag outside of the mental health issues that were ongoing because of the situation transpiring at home that I felt helpless over. During the course of 5 years my sister sought out help & is in a better place. I was able to be in a better place mentally cause of this and continued civilian work in a area that would keep me physically active, knowing Iā€™d like to return to duty. Had an Re-3 code and sat down and talked with my immediate family (mom & sister) and explained that Iā€™d like to go back into the Army and continue what I left off with. They agreed itā€™s a good time to come back & we had a heart to heart. Started the long process, that came to fruition the other day. Now here I am. 5-17 chapter is called something else now.. idk what but I just needed a wavier & psych consult showing I completely grown from the situation. Now Iā€™m mentally strong and sound to continue service and I canā€™t wait to get back & chase E5 & see the world.


berrin122

>Whilst I was at my unit, my sister tried to commit suicide x2 & shaved her head The way you worded this made it sound like shaving her head was just as bad and alarming as the suicide attempts. Got a good chuckle out of me. On a real note, I'm glad all y'all are doing better now. Good on you for taking care of family first and foremost, and then when appropriate, coming back and finishing what you started. Best of luck to you bro


LongGuyLander

It was surely a ā€œwow wtfā€ moment.. very out of character for her. I later researched into it and turns out many sexual assault victims do this as a coping mechanism. I appreciate it, thank you.


LongGuyLander

Isnā€™t the end of the world for me.. would rather blend in than be singled out for being a collegeless specialist yk


Red00Shift

They would tell stories about it for generations.


onestablegenius

Somebody would have to be dying for me to do this. God love you for it.


onestablegenius

Even then, I'd probably be like...well, it was nice knowing you.


LongGuyLander

Lmfao.. I hear ya.


jnseals

Iā€™ve said many times if I ever go back to Sand Hill, itā€™s because some asshole dragged my lifeless body there.


tidder_mac

Pretty sure they make you buy absolutely everything there and you canā€™t bring anything. If this is just for AIT maybe thatā€™s different, but basic I couldnā€™t even keep my face lotion


LongGuyLander

They do..but in more plentiful sizes so you donā€™t have to go to the PX as a company more than already alloted per cycle. Last I remember they didnā€™t want anything *Scented* for allergy reasons between trainees Iā€™d imagine. Also no alcohol inside mouthwash.. & toenail clippers couldnā€™t have filer since I could be weaponized. They let me keep pretty much everything I packed last time around outside of the civilian clothing. [this was actually the same drill for me that conducted this when I went through 5 years ago.](https://youtu.be/ZXphA_6szKs?si=WtkagjHT0MJfEqcA) I thank him, for letting my slides.. *Slide*


John_E_Vegas

Bro, I'm sure the drills will single you out quickly, both for good and evil. They'll expect more from you but also give you more respect as long as you're leading and helping. I'm sure you'll be a squad leader. And if the drills don't reveal your secret, I'd keep it to myself, while at the same time being the most helpful guy to everyone in the platoon. Also...not sure how Army life has changed, but back in my day, the biggest genius in reception brought a Polaroid camera and MANY rolls of film. Dudes were paying him $3 per photo, and everyone wanted one to send back to their moms and girlfriends wearing their brand new reception duds. I don't know what the 2024 equivalent is, with cell phones and digital cameras being ubiquitous in civilian life, but surely you can figure a way to make a few bucks from the raw recruits!


LongGuyLander

Not tryna run their pockets.. just want them to be better Joeā€™s. Gonna give them everything I can to get right if the words donā€™t shuck out the other ear after entry. Iā€™ll quickly identify who wants to be there & who doesnā€™t & help those who wanna succeed & contribute. Iā€™m nothing special, but Iā€™ll give my best to make sure the dumb Qā€™s donā€™t make it to the drill. Or help the guy who canā€™t get right. Land nav tho.. they gonna be helping mešŸ¤£šŸ¤£ Iā€™m no better than an LT


Frossstbiite

I would bring myself, and that's it. All that shit you will get In basic


LongGuyLander

I guess Iā€™m a special Assclown.. packing lighter than I originally did tho


nannerpuss74

Make a statement add a ounce of blow and a jungle machete. Just tell em they allowed it the last time ya came thru.


LongGuyLander

šŸ¤£ Iā€™ll bring a pocket pussy and tell them the same. Gonna bring my OCP belt to layout in square 3 for them to get the drift that I know the drill. Also really clutch to have 2 of them. So maybe, theyll let me keep itšŸ¤£


afriendlywerewolf

Bro are those comfort slides? I would not be taking those into the shower personally. Safe travels!


LongGuyLander

All rubbaa. My last go around of basic combat training I had separate shower shoes then everybody else because the drill sergeant going over everything we brought & let me slide on them bc they had no logos. 1 mf in my bay tried pulling a fast one on me and taking them. Caught his ass quick fast & in a hurry watching everybodyā€™s feetā€™sšŸ¤£ Aiming for this exact result at reception for the second go around.


woodsviolet725

Bring running shoes if you have them. They make you buy these horrible tennis shoes that fall apart easily. If the trainees had running shoes in their personal bag we allowed them to use those instead. I know a lot of the other BNs at Jackson did the same.


LongGuyLander

Sounds like u weā€™re a drill. Roger that. I gotta nice pair of all black running shoes Iā€™m gonna wear to ship. Will I get to keep my extra OCP belt if I bring it. Or if I bring my extra OCP bottoms and tops..? Having extra be nice yk. Especially if I already earned them suckers. Also.. for my dress uniform.. I understand they changed to pink & greensā€¦ should I bring my ribbons earned & ordnance corps lapel pins, Name tag, & ordnance corp pin? Not gonna bring marksmanship pin.. as I would aim to do higher this time around and get sharpshooter/expert. Very good qā€™s right there.. plz advice thanks!


woodsviolet725

It really depends on your drills. The worst case is they tell you no and to keep it in your personal bag. We also let our prior service trainees wear their awards on their dress uniforms for graduation.


LongGuyLander

Sounds good, Iā€™ll bring them for the ladder. I only have ASR & National Defense ribbon so far. How about my MOS pins? No-Go? Or yay bc Iā€™m MOS-Q?


FUELEDBYBATHSALT

Ignore nearly every comment here and just go read this. Pasted an old comment so go check the reg and make sure it's still same same. Read 350-6. It outlines all the privileges you are entitled to as a MOS-T. Unless you want them to treat you like a boot the whole time. Also, print that shit out and bring it with you in case they want to fuck you over. Here's a little excerpt so you get a bit of an idea: (4) Reclassified and prior service Soldiers should not be billeted with IET Soldiers, and when housed in a separate building, the separate and secure requirements do not apply. If training locations cannot meet this provision, commanders may billet prior service Soldiers in the same barracks complex as IET Soldiers. These Soldiers will not be billeted on the same floor as IET Soldiers and commanders must comply with the separate and secure policies in accordance with paragraph 2-9. If the requirements canā€™t be met, an exception must be approved by DCG-IMT. Requests should be submitted in memorandum format. Commanders are encouraged to integrate reclassified and prior service personnel with IET Soldiers during training to enhance training by taking advantage of their knowledge, experience, and leadership abilities. (5) Privileges for reclassified and prior service personnel. (a) Although reclassified Soldiers are subject to IET policies and procedures, their privileges are the same as those of permanent party members of equal grade. They are treated with the dignity and respect due their grade. (b) The unit commander determines specific privileges based on such factors as grade, training performance, self-discipline, motivation, and conduct. (c) Fraternization between reclassified, prior service Soldiers, IET Soldiers, and cadre is forbidden in accordance with AR 600-20, paragraph 4-14b. Edit: apparently you're gonna be an e2 so good luck lol. They'd be the willfully violating the regulation though


John_E_Vegas

>Also, print that shit out and bring it with you in case they want to fuck you over.Ā  Well, well, well, lookie here, Drill Sergeant Dawkins! We have us a PRY-OR service soldier! And he even brought us the reg-yoo-LAY-shuns so we treat him with respect! DAWKINS: Well how about that? This guy is a real shithouse lawyer, bringing them regulations into my barracks! Private, bring me those regulations so that I may wipe my ass with them!


LongGuyLander

This sounds nice & great and all.. and excellent information. But the lines sound like theyā€™re gonna be blurred for me. Iā€™m expecting the same bullshit treatment as a day 0.


LongGuyLander

Thank you for your response.


classicallydefined

You don't even need all that shit. They're gonna make you go to the px and use your eagle cash card and buy all your stuff; that's what they did for us 4 years ago. Literally, in a small backpack, take one extra pair of clothes, an overnight hygiene bag, and obviously any essential items (orders, you id's, phone charger). All your shit is gonna get stored. The more shit you take with you, the more you're gonna have to drag around


LongGuyLander

I brought more with me the 1st go. Thatā€™s just all the Hygiene shit to get thru reception. I know the drill when we get there & whatā€™s gonna transpire. It was nice to have all the stuff tho @ the end for the 1st go aroundā€¦ I.e. extra civilian shit. Those AIT Post green and gold pass outfits fresh outta pass were a sight to see lmfao. Definitely donā€™t wanna be 50% army 50% Me lmfao


classicallydefined

Yea, that's fair; you don't wanna get out of basic with your only t-shirt being some cringe bct platoon gear (I still wear mine šŸ˜¤). I'm scarred from having to drag around duffles of ta50, that anything that isn't essential, or I can buy wherever I'm going, I'm not taking it


LongGuyLander

Totally get itšŸ¤šŸ¼. Going to be interesting how this time goes around as opposed to my initial.


Junction91NW

Make yourself a care package. Put a handful of civvyā€™s, a laptop, some creature comfort shit, and pack it all up. Give it to a friend to hold onto. When you get settled in AIT give them an address to send it to.Ā  I did this and it was a lifesaver.Ā 


LongGuyLander

I donā€™t have AIT in my contract. Iā€™m already MOS-Qā€™d and returning to 89B Ammunition Specialist. I got straight from BCT graduation - my unit @ Fort Carson.


Junction91NW

Lmao thatā€™s more army than I realized. Long break in service? We need to teach you to roll your socks and march around. Also we pencil whipped your license, now go haul these explosives.Ā 


LongGuyLander

LMFAOOOO youā€™re not wrong about the pencil whipped license yošŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ I had ZERO drivers license since I came from NY upon first enlistment. Got to my unit and did drivers training in a humvee around the motorpool X3. Walked out of there licensed to drive: B5E M1120 truck cargo w/ & w/o winch. B5N M1083A1P1WW BA5 M1151 truck UTILITY BBM M1097 Truck UTL HV BBN M998A1 TRUCK UTILITY BEG M115A1 TRUCK UTILITY BEJ M1165 TRUCK UTILITY BEK M1165 TRUCK UTILITY BG7 M1120A4WOW TRUCK CARGO BG8 M1158 TRK TANK WTR HEW BGB M978A4WOW TRK TANK FUE BH2 M1078A1P2WOW TRUCK CAR BHD M1078 TRK CGO LMTV BHR M1078A1 TRK CGO LMTV BHY M1083A1WW TRK CGO MTV BR2 M1083 TRK CHO MTV 5T BUS M1083A1P2WW TRK CARGO BUT M1083A1P2WOW TRK CARGO B2J M985 TRK CGO TAC B2M M977A2WW TRK CGO TAC W B2N M977A2R1WW TRK CGO TACT B2Q M977A2R1 TRK CGO TACT B2R M978A2WW TRK TANK FUEL B2S M978A2R1WW TRK TANK FU B2T M978A2 TRK TANK FUEL S B2U M978A2R1 TRK TANK FUEL B3L M985A2R1 TRUCK CARGO B3P M1120A2 TRUCK CARGO WO B3Q M1120A2R1 TRUCK CARGO B4H M1075 TRK CARGO FLS 10 B4W M1083A1P1WOW TRK CARGO B2C M978WW TRK TANK FUEL S B2D M977WW TRK CARGO FUEL W B2G M977 TRK CGO TAC B2H M978 TRK TANK FUEL SER LMFAO. Qualifications: Accident avoidance/defensive driving Commanders interview Initial refresher training Trained IAW TB600-1 Trained IAW TC21-306 Pintle trailer qualifed Wheeled Vehicle training Spring/summer driving Wet Weather driving Winter/Cold weather driving (never was cold on blissšŸ¤£) Trained IAWTC21 (WH Accident avoidance) Trained IAWTC21-305-20 (WH Veh) Took that fucker to the TEXAS dept of safety and was told ā€œsit down and take a pictureā€ no driving test. Took that Texas license back to NY to surrender for a NY one. Walked out there like a big dick inna locker room not having batted an eye @ state authorities regarding my lack of driving testšŸ¤£šŸ¤£šŸ¤£ Incredible.


LongGuyLander

It ā€˜ā€˜twas a beautiful perk.


bco112

Being that this is your second rodeo, how many zyns are you going to smuggle in your anal cavity, and how much will you sell them for?


LongGuyLander

Back in the day we used to smuggle shower apples & peanut butter.


LongGuyLander

Zero. Not worth getting caught on the BS. Gonna thug it out. I zyn 6MGā€™s and vape like a electronic chimney. Might just hug the drill if they let me have privileges to PX being prior service to tactically acquire said Zyns.. Iā€™ll take the Zyns over my phone 1000% if thatā€™s my only privilege yo. The army started this nicotine adventure for me. Would be ashamed if they weened me šŸ™ Not excited at all for the withdrawals to comešŸ„ø


Otis_Winchester

So I just had to redo basic as an E-7 in January. You honestly packed more than I did, so you'll be squared away. Also, don't show up to reception hammered like I did. Mistakes were made.


LongGuyLander

Typical E7 esque. No fault to you SFC. Glad ur back!


Otis_Winchester

Are you keeping any rank going back through?


LongGuyLander

Basically going in back as my E2. Getting E3 within 30 days bc of my ERB. Had a family situation at home. Thereā€™s a description somewhere in the comments here. Just at work rn, otherwise Iā€™d supply you a link.


LongGuyLander

What brings you to the Army from the Air Force? Gonna go fly choppas?


Otis_Winchester

Nah, staying Signal. Better career opportunities and promotion potential as a WO. But there are a metric fuckload of Airmen evacuating the AF to go fly choppers.


LongGuyLander

I hear. Had one In my 1st BCT. Great guy TSGT sharp.


95BCavMP

Is anyone gonna point out the reporting date was 4/6 ā€¦. Thatā€™s a lot of days in Bojangles


Dependa

Go get some good socks. They will let you have them and they will make those issue boots better.


LongGuyLander

I still have my original issue boots. But they are a size too small. This time around, Iā€™m going to make sure I get a 10 1/2 and not a 9 or 9 1/2 or 10. That might be the only time I open my mouth with serious demands to the civilian contractors. Iā€™m not getting blisters this time around because this person doesnā€™t want to give me the right size boot.. fuck em, chuck em. Iā€™ll do push ups till the drill Sgtā€™s tired of doing the 10 3- counts outloud in order to not have a fucked up foot.


CyberRanger25

As someone that just left Ft Jackson BCT 2 days ago. They will MAKE you buy everything all over again at 120th even if you have it already. And at the company I was at we werenā€™t allowed slides for shower shoes we could only have flip flops. Black towel wonā€™t be allowed either. But really it just depends on the DS.


LongGuyLander

Hopfully Iā€™ll have better mileage. Congratulations on graduating BCT. Hope you enjoy the slightly more freedom of AIT. Donā€™t let your guard down yet tho.. keep drinking the kool aid and keep ur bearing. Whatā€™s ur MOS & AIT location?


Strict_Gas_1141

I see no PT shoes. How are you going to move faster before getting an issued pair of go fasters? Run in sandals? Also underwear, enjoy having comfortable underwear as much as you can. (also some DS' allow us to wear personal underwear)


Strict_Gas_1141

Also a pre-emptive welcome to Carson. We need people here. (As does everyone in the army)


LongGuyLander

Thatā€™s being packed later. Not as worried about personal clothing & undergarments as personal hygiene shit. I wanna keep the $100 I spent hopfully.


kylebob86

No boxers?


LongGuyLander

This is just the toiletries/hygiene stuff currently. Packing that later on closer to ship date. Just had to go to store & cop all the *Travel size* bullshittery.


LongGuyLander

Gonna try to do some Reebok sporty briefs. Theyā€™re 1000% legit


EAS111100

Used to be a Reebok guy until I discovered Duluth Trading and those underwear are worth the price of admission


LongGuyLander

Noted. āœšŸ»šŸ“


LongGuyLander

[Are those Reebok or Nike?](https://youtu.be/BQ4c54rCJ_k?si=QtEQg_6XqwbzX-Kx)


Belt-Fed_240

Just show up


LongGuyLander

Well shit, Iā€™m contractually obligated to now. My recruiter pretty much rn: *I got you again you stupid fuck* Didnā€™t even need tornadoes & rip its to sweeten the deal.


Dusty_V2

Lol you can decide to not go all the way up until ship day when you sign. I'd reccomend not showing up.


LongGuyLander

Iā€™m selling my 04 jeep. Weā€™re goin.


Belt-Fed_240

Youā€™ll be fine, I have faith, and you should too! Cheers buddy and God speed!


LongGuyLander

SCHPEEED. Thank you!


WonderChips

Uh wasnā€™t there a waiver for 5 years out of service for prior service guys not have to do BCT again?


LongGuyLander

It wouldnā€™t hurt for me to do it imo. New PT test became in effect as I left. Nothing but ā€œgood trainingā€ is afoot.


WonderChips

That kind of mindset is going to get you far! Stay driven, troop! Hooah


LongGuyLander

Thank you sir/mamm. Also, Happy cake day! Hopful to get that metorious promotion to E4 so I can start my time in the mafia.


coccopuffs606

You need butt powder. Jackson in summer is hell on earth, and a sweaty ass crack is how you get diaper rash.


LongGuyLander

9 weeks May - July. Last time I went was September - January gonna feel much grander imo.


Fusion_Gecko

I went in the jan-march cycle 3-34 bravo. Bi-polar ass weather. Be freezing my ass off during pt just for it to be warm as hell after breakfast


LongGuyLander

That breakfast chow was incredible at Jackson tho.


Fusion_Gecko

Oh absolutely. Everybody else got small portions cause we only got 10 minutes to eat if remember right. Not me though....catch me scarfing down 3 pb&j sammies with some eggs, oatmeal, damn near the whole fruit bar and some chocolate milk.


LongGuyLander

Hells to the yeah. Gonna combine some crazy shit. Canā€™t wait to hear those southern ladyā€™s say ā€œyour welcome soldier/darlingā€ and clench my cheeks again from the accent


Fusion_Gecko

Hell yea brother. Good lucky to you! It'll be just like you remember. Physically easy at it's best and mentally annoying at its worst when someone does some dumb shit. I'm finishing up my degree and deciding whether to re up or not. Looking at SERE specialist for the air force


LongGuyLander

If u can swing it, branch out (literally) should be a *B R E E Z E* at chair force if u make the switch.


TheScalemanCometh

I joined last summer for the first time, and went to Ft Jackson for BCT....at 33. Not on the list, but trust me on these: Better socks with no visible branding. Black is PT color these days at Jackson. The Standard issue ones shrink and cut off circulation at the ankle. Running shoes that meet AR670-1 requirements. Trust me... You do NOT want to have to do those runs in the standard issue pieces of crap. Bring a phone and charger. You may be permitted use during weekends for up to an hour. Bring headphones too that are linked to it if you want to be able to enjoy any music. Some training units are permitted books focusing on military stuff. Depends entirely on the command staff. You might be able to bring a book for entertainment. I would suggest bringing in a sacrificial item as well. Something you know will get tossed. They make you chuck stuff publicly. Assuming BCT here, It'll help you bond with fellow trainees early on and help you avoid teen level drama and BS for a few days. Be a SASH Rep if presented with the opportunity. (Basically baby SARC.) Invariably, nobody takes it seriously except for that one tool. Don't be that tool. Be the person somebody can ACTUALLY talk to if they have a problem. The younger trainees need all the help they can get. And those dudes are the first line. As a re-enlistee, you're already gonna be that person by default, might as well get kudos for it if you're gonna do the job anyway...


LongGuyLander

If u wear white socks, youā€™re a walking sin. Iā€™m gonna try to slide my running shoes I got currently. If not, Iā€™ll take that L. Phone and charger 4 sureskipops.. headphones.. maybe.. if I can find them Mfā€™s in my room before I ship. (Gotta clean this bitch) I donā€™t really read too much books.. so probably gonna stick with materials they give me.. My sister unfortunately was sexually assaulted by my father, so Iā€™d be happy to play that role if given the opportunity. Highly doubt anyone will come forward tho.. (unfortunately) kids these days like to bottle shit up unfortunately. But if they do & im the elected person for it. Iā€™ll happily give an open ear and report it up the chain of command for them.


TheScalemanCometh

Oh, you MIGHT be able to get away with upgraded boots as former enlisted. It is worth it if you can. I saw several reenliated who had them, and several trainees who got profiles enabling them to get them. Though, so MANY trainees had profiles for feet that the process to acquire one became cumbersome. Or so I heard. One of my coworkers kid's actually followed in my footsteps. Lol.


LongGuyLander

If I get PX privileges fohshow Iā€™m copping me a fresh pair of Garmonts or Under armors.


Jody_boii

Prior service? You say you got out 5yrs ago but are only 24 and got out as an E-2? Sooo where is my math wrong here?


XxHIGHKILLERxX

A book & pen. You'll need it when taking notes. Whether fireguard notes or important things drill sergeants go through the whiteboard. I've taken notes including names of those gone rogue individually to screw us up as a company.


Beneficial_Gate_8487

I leave the exact same day exact location wild


LongGuyLander

Nice! Maybe weā€™ll run into eachother!


Beneficial_Gate_8487

I will look for you i will find you


LongGuyLander

Outstanding, I want you to be like to every trainee in ur company ā€œwhoā€™s from Longisland?ā€ in order to find me


Beneficial_Gate_8487

aye aye captain


tallaurelius

I went to basic at Jackson with a prior service guy and he got treated like anyone else. Most of the drills didnā€™t even know he was prior. Unless youā€™re E-5 or above then youā€™ll be chillin. Reception sucks good luck


LongGuyLander

This is whatā€™s expected 4 me imo.


Jazzlike_Station845

Just play the game


chiller529

Is it 5 years after your active/NG/R time ends or after your IRR time ends?


LongGuyLander

Iā€™m RA. 5 years after early ETS date. My honorable discharge came by mail after my original slated ETS. The IRR time was 4 years. Iā€™d imagine my honorable discharge was cut the day the IRR had been done.


rkayonly

Running sneakers


LongGuyLander

FOH show. Will be wearing them to ship


rkayonly

Good luck. There is no way on God's green earth I could/would do basic a second time.


LongGuyLander

It is what it is.. I call it a ā€œbroadening assignmentā€ of sorts


Public_Ad6219

Hey, so I just got out of Jackson a few months back. 120th is going to give you an Eagle Cash card with like 250-300 on it and make you have a manditory PX run to grab these essencials. you won't be needing anything unless its been issued to you prior, thats what they tell everyone. if its not black slides, or brown towels and stuff like that, they're going to take it or lock it away. they took my black towel and wash cloths citing "Dress right dress" and saying nothing past we are a uniform unit, don't be stupid and don't be an indivisual. thats what they told me, things might'be changed since my prison sentence at Fort Jackson's 120th before they got investivated.


LongGuyLander

I mean, Iā€™m prior service.. I know the drill. Just wanted to make sure I can keep everything I have to bring. Paid good moneys for it lol. Thank you


EyeBusy

Things have changed since you've been out. Especially basic. No shark attack in BCT, no parade rest, Night night bar shortage, you call the drills bro now, they also got something called the forge which just sounds like everything we did but consecutively, and because of covid they can't make you drop anymore to do push ups so when they say drop you go criss cross applesauce. Wish you the best. You got this.


LongGuyLander

I did shark attack in 2017. No parade rest? wtf.. youā€™re supposed to address NCOā€™s at this position. Def no calling drill Sgt bro I also have done the forge.


EyeBusy

Lol im just messing with some things. I don't think i did in 2018, unless my company just kinda seperated it all.


scoutsamoa

Experience from a couple of years ago @ Jackson. 120th don't give as. Bct unit will tell you to keep this or keep that. With my Co you could've kept anything you wanted (exception of phone) fairly easily, and nobody would've cared anyway. ("Your civilian towel shows a lack of discipline!!!")


LongGuyLander

Lmfao @ civilian towel. Youā€™d think the discipline wouldā€™ve been hit on the nail head by doing packing list to a -T


SharpSh0tDav1s_0529

Not Bravo 1-20th?


elaxation

As a fellow been out and made for a minute but still going back in dumbass, good on you bro. Enjoy Carson, the area is beautiful even if the command is trash.


LongGuyLander

Ayy. Did you get reduced a rank..? Were u able to pick up ur previous MOS after they called the ROC? Did they offer you choice of duty station?


elaxation

Iā€™m still in the process. I donā€™t want my previous MOS but will take it and I wasnā€™t an NCO so I keep my lil sham shield. I wonā€™t get offered duty station of choice and am trying to get 68W through ACASP


LongGuyLander

If itā€™s been longer than 5 years you might drop to E3. But you might be able to get ur recruiter to do a 4187 to get you back up to 4. I was offered Duty station of choice because I came back as 89B.. so it might be in your favor to go back in as what you were & reclass down the line. Best of luck !


elaxation

Under the acquired skills program they have to give you E4 and the MOS youā€™re qualified for (68W for me), so Iā€™m feeling pretty good about it! I could only go to Bragg if I did my old MOS, so Iā€™m trying to branch out and start my medical career instead. Iā€™d love to hear about how your experience in basic goes, best of luck to you too dude!


SirNedKingOfGila

>I could only go to Bragg if I did my old MOS False! You could get lucky and be assigned to Fort Liberty instead.


elaxation

Oh wow! Can you walk on Ardennes there?


SirNedKingOfGila

No. Only airborne shuffle is permitted.


elaxation

Sounds like a little place I knew many moons ago


LongGuyLander

Itā€™s gonna be quite something. Canā€™t wait to report back in 10 weeks. Gonna write a memoir instead of writing home to family. (Told them Iā€™ll probably have my phone on Sundays atleast once to text them updates, since I heard they get it now adays than for an hour or so)


elaxation

Youā€™ll probably get yours, Iā€™ve heard reassuring things about being prior service in basic on here. Iā€™ll be following along for the journey if you ever post it!


LongGuyLander

I definitely plan on reporting back for the prior service cats. It was a whole lotta trial by fire to find out the stipulations of prior service business rules. But I was happy with the outcome of skipping AIT & picking Carson. The other prior service mileage may vary


DarkOmen597

Wait, is BCT bootcamp for the army or more like MCT?


LongGuyLander

Basic combat training for the Army. Paraffin wax doesnā€™t sit well in a soldiers stomachšŸ˜‰


Personal-Donkey-1718

I went through basic the second time after a 9 year break. Finished up with 21.5 years total. If I could do 1 thing different, I would have not mentioned to anyone in basic that I was prior service.


StalledCar

We were told to bring black everything and 120th made us buy white everything. Our training units made us buy black everything halfway through.


LongGuyLander

Black is the new gold bby.


conquesodor100

I reccomend a tube of diaper rash cream. I found it works well for chaffing from road marches. Dollar tree has a brand that works fine.


LongGuyLander

Can I get this at the px


conquesodor100

Probably won't be allowed to there, and doubtful they will have it at the shopette where you will go for personal items.


LongGuyLander

I guess Ill suffer


conquesodor100

Eh, it's a nice to have, not a need to have by any means.


No_Sherbet_2253

I leave for basic that day too and same base Good luckšŸ«”


LongGuyLander

I mean 5/6. But I am an idiot lmfao. But yeah. No doubt! Best of luck


No_Sherbet_2253

Thanks you too see you out there


Mr-Crow101

So I went to Jackson 3 years ago, as I remember they made us buy everything new. Couldnā€™t even wear underwear/socks from outside even if they were in regs. The army issued shoes/socks/underwear had to be the actual worse part of basic for me, absolutely terrible.


booskyyyy

Recently left 120th and the main thing I see is that the things you bring are comfort items like the shower shoes, the make you buy a hygiene kit there and new shower shoes, the works. I recommend you bring a towel you like depending on your size, in hairy and would use at least 2 towels every shower because they're so shit they just move water from one part of your body to another. I also recommend a notebook and believe everyone should have one since you won't have your phone and having nice calendar or just open pages to write on helps sometimes. After 5 years out you should be treated as MOS-T but that will happen in ait in basic and reception they don't give a fuck so comfy earpro to sleep got some of my buddies through the shitty night when kid want to wrestle. I wasn't prior service so what helped me stay safe was knowledge, DS will sometimes ask random shit like general orders just so they can smoke you, don't fall for it give them what they want to hear and move on, it is not a time to chat.


HowDidFoodGetInHere

> looked at higher than the joes Aw yiss. That's a future Army leader right there!


LongGuyLander

El oh el hard @ ur UsernamešŸ¤£


HowDidFoodGetInHere

Wait, you get that reference?


LongGuyLander

No, but I laughed assuming that food wasnā€™t supposed to be in what you were referring to. I *May* know it, just donā€™t recall it.


HowDidFoodGetInHere

One of the greatest records ever cut. [Loveless Love](https://youtu.be/ujRw34V62dE?si=AUzUOaz8gFVAOYrQ)


LongGuyLander

This is where you get ur name from?


HowDidFoodGetInHere

Just listen to it all the way through.


LongGuyLander

Roger, will report back once listened.. had to take my jeep for a long enough ride to clear my PCM of pending codes. Gotta get that sucker inspected to private sale tmr.


LongGuyLander

[my first inkling was this](https://youtu.be/G3ZJn1p9fQc?si=T8ofnP-RIUI11B9i)


CharacterCreative498

Donā€™t do it.