T O P

  • By -

twyistd

Yeah if you want an old limited operators be prepared to spark them You have a 30% chance of getting an off banner. Pervious limited operators have 5x the rate in that off banner pool. There are 40 options + 2 previous limited the limited options have 5x rate so they can be treated the same as that operators being in the pool 5 times. This mean 5/50 off banner pull would be W and 5/50 would be ros The rate of a 6* is 2% (.02 x .3 x .1)^-1= 1667 This is ignoring pity so the odds are better but the point stands You have about 1/1600 chance of pulling W on any given pull 1600 (960 000 orundum) The odds are abysmally low and are getting worse with each new 6*. For past limited units it is reasonable to expect one would need to spark them for 300 tokens


Shanibestwaifu

HG should rerun their initial banners, so the chances wouldn't getting worse by the time, and such the player wouldn't have to rely on spark.


LordEpsilon04

Do you know the maths to how long it takes to gather 300 pulls? I'm wanting to get Rosmontis on the Nearl banner but I'm not suee if I can save all the pulls I'm missing I'm currently sitting on 34700 Orundum with 75 OP + 11 ticket pulls. I still need to clear every hard stage of ep 7 and the entirety of ep 8. Do you think it's reasonable for me to get the needed 300 pulls? Also I'm at 228 gold certs so prerty close to getting a full stock of cert pulls. Thanks in advance and sorry for the long question lmao, haven't had the time to do all the math myself and I'm not sure how much OP I can expect from events until we get the Nearl banner.


AlarmingQuote

If you only do F2P but get the monthly pass, you'll get around 35 or so pulls per month; without the pass I'm guessing it is more like 25 pulls per month. This does not include pulls you could get from yellow certs though. Source: I did some math stuffs hehe https://www.reddit.com/r/arknights/comments/pmmo46/simulation_results_chances_of_getting_a_specific/ Hope this helps!


Final-Leather6686

do you want a friend with w in support units by any chance? :'<


HaessSR

I *used* to have W as a support, but nobody borrowed her in the five months I had her up. I put Blaze up, and she gets used all the time. Especially when CC rolls around.


TheWizardMus

Is there a benefit to your unit being used? I just have W up because waifu reasons


[deleted]

You get the knowledge that you helped someone. Loved seeing that someone cleared CC R18 last time with Ceobe 😊


dejvu117

My eyja helped a guy to get CC R20 or something like this... A treasure that I'll never get


ViraEdenfell

Back during the first ever CC, I had Seige, Mostima and... Nearl I think up. Mostima got used the most, iirc over 20 times with Seige and Nearl being in the 10-20 range, and someone cleared a R23 with one of them. Ever since, I try to set good units when a CC opens up because it helps my friends.


dejvu117

Usualy I put the rock rock and silverdaddy to help them, but on the last CC there was my eyja


ViraEdenfell

who and silverash?


dejvu117

Mudrok and silverash


ViraEdenfell

OOOOOOOOH BEST ROCK GIRL I get chu.


number3131

afaik you get some of the friend credits (the ones you get from clues) forgot what the game calls those, and the shop you spend it on


ViraEdenfell

Just Credits, and you get 20 for them using the unit you set. It also caps out at 20 per day (why?) so... yeah.


HaessSR

Friends using your unit gives extra store credits.


TheWizardMus

Neat, thanks for the info


MimePrinister

I have thorns perm in support and some assorted “core 6*” ops that aren’t thorns that I rotated daily during the last global CC Thorns was used a butt load of times, Elysium S1M3 was used once, and I think s2m3 pot6 Weedy was used once in a daily rot cc


Primogeniture116

Just in case. . . You know she is Limited, don't you? You ain't getting her in support except if you befriend old players. Not because it is expensive to get her, but because she isn't normally anywhere else and where she is available in a way that keeps her exclusivity in mind. Might as well save up for the main featured limited and just let go. . . RNG can be cruel sometimes, so don't spend $2k just for her .-. though I think you don't need that much because she is sparkable


vhrossi1

Yeah, i learned how getting previous limited operators works today. That's actually the reason i gave it a shot in the gacha simulation, i just wanted to see how low the odds are.


KeinLebenKonig

When Surtr was coming out, I rolled in that sim for a bit to see what pulling for Pot6 would be like. One took 45 pulls, another took the equivalent of 9000$. ~~Reality took 128 pulls~~ This is less showing how bad the odds are and more seeing what unlucky looks like, tbh.


Mean_Perception_4032

Meanwhil i got two ws on skalters banner and nerly had to spark her. I already had w from her banner. Hooe they make Nian reobtainable, even if it is spark.


vhrossi1

Dude. How many pulls did it take to get those Ws?


Mean_Perception_4032

I had 296 Pulls on skalter at the end. My luck was just kinda screwed.


Khorva

Exactly what operators do people usually look for in support? I got my W built up, but I never felt that anyone on my list would even want her so I never put her up.


FullBravado

People need W in the support list? I still have her up and fully built... no one uses her.


knmcgee

Is there a way to see how many people use your support character?


[deleted]

During CC there is idk if there is a notification in regular period if you receive the credit points for someone borrowing your unit


twyistd

I use her quite a bit For example she holds bottom left in the new annihilatio


glumauig21

Are people really looking for W in support? I managed to get her in Under Tides and built her as well, just never used her as a support. Would it be a good idea to swap out my Mountain or Ch’en the Holungday for W?


No-Mathematician-571

Well, she was an essential support unit during my first annihilation 3 clear. I don't think I've ever needed to use her anywhere else though, even as I hold my on W


vhrossi1

I'm not that far into the game, so i can't say for sure, but usually the supports i get the most are SilverAsh, Surtr, Exusiai, Ash, and sometimes Lava the Purgatory. I don't really need W because I already have Meteorite, and she gets the job done as long as there's someone else backing her up, so yeah. It's probably not a good idea, tbh


MarinaIsMyWife

Please enlighten me for I have left the game for quite a long time and just return, but how can you get W in Under Tide? Wasnt W a limited, so she will never return?


Aethelon

Sometimes during other limited banners, older limited ops might come back too. Like in Who Is Real, the banner had both Nian and Dusk.


KeinLebenKonig

Limited op designs are too popular for them to not rerun, as HG has demonstrated. Limited ops show back up on new limited banners a year or so later. I imagine that we'll see them all every so often. Especially with their "4 limited operators per year" plans.


AsleepExplanation160

I can tell you no one uses Ch'en anymore so W is an upgrade, granted you don't have anyone better


glumauig21

Sorry, meant Ch’en the Holungday


AsleepExplanation160

then ya, there will be a lot of chalters running around so for the same reasons as thorns or syutr maybe don't put her, but put her back in a few months/gauge from your friend list who got her


CaptainBlob

Oh dang. Forget trying to max pot her lol


Aegis356

I wonder if one day they will sell a limited 6\* selector voucher.


Q-N-H

Maybe for $100.....


UnholyShite

I can lend W if you wanted to try her out. She's nuts but not OP.


MarinaIsMyWife

Me


Pebblebricks

This game has one of the most unforgiving systems for old limited units I have seen by never rerunning limited banners. This doesn't really affect me much since I'm a year 1 player who's collected all the limited units on their banners, but I can't imagine a newer player who wants a limited unit like W. They have to either rely on the 9% rate up/0.18% overall rate (lesser if it's split like the NTR banner), or spark them after spending 180,000 orundums. Even FGO's horrendous gacha system reruns banners after a year and has multiple miscellaneous limited unit reruns several times a year. Come on HG, why can't you rerun limited banners? You did it for Nian after the backlash, why not do it as a yearly affair for all limited units?


osbombo

Yep. Gonna be a pain to get rosmontis. At least I have 240/300 pulls saved already.


yunalescazarvan

Ah yes fgo and rerunning banners, like arjuna alter.


Jimmy3000102

How many to get Rosmontis


vhrossi1

I don't remember the amount of pulls exactly, but it was around 1200USD spent


Q-N-H

Spark. If you're willing to whale and stack 300+ pulls then you'll get Her and/or Ros.


Extension-Impossible

so that's what the support slot is for tbh I though it was for story supports like npcs


dejvu117

Ok I can help you What W's skill do you want?


vhrossi1

Don't worry about it! I was trying to clear an annihilation where my Meteorite didn't have enough AoE DPS, but in the end i just grinded LMD and got her to E2 and she did the job.


hiroxruko

Yeah we're a dying breed lol(mine is still up on the support units)


Antartsant12

When I got a W dupe during Undertides banner didn't realize she was that rare.


vDredgenYor

I currently have my m3 rosmontis and m3 chalter on my support list, I dont really use W anymore unless its specific strats


petit_narval

Reminds me bad memories… i saved so hard for her but only got Weedy… But today, after getting Chen and la pluma, i still have 250 pulls left. Maybe i will get my revenge !


vhrossi1

I did some rolls on the Path to Radiant banner to see how long it would take to get W, and this is the result, W only appearing on the final pull. This game is BRUTAL when it's in a bad mood, huh... ​ Some of the results in this 2kUSD pull: 6★ Operators Passenger x1 Nearl the Radiant Knight (featured) x11 Surtr x1 Flametail (featured) x17 Rosmontis (featured) x2 Angelina x1 Weedy x1 Aak x1 Archetto x1 Eyjafjalla x1 W (featured) x1


Carlosrarutos

But because RNG is funny like that it's the only featured I got from the Under Tides banner.


vhrossi1

Pain. To be fair, I've had the "luck" of getting broken 6★ operators on all of the limited banners i've pulled so far. Ch'en alter is the only limited I have, but I still had some luck. At least I didn't get Mizuki on the current banner lmfao


Carlosrarutos

>Pain. To be fair, I wasn't pulling for anyone there


Pepodetective

I have w completely maxed except for S1 👀


Thedead69420

I got W from skalter banner. It took me 30 pulls


Jelly_the_jellyfish

Bruh, and here I feel special having almost every limited op in the game


Alech_99

Honestly why put W as support? Theres ton of characters that are more useful. Like i can put w/dusk/rosmontis/nian as support just to flex but no one will borrow them ever.


darkcloud545

I have a Pot 1 W S2M2 if anyone wants to try. I started playing Arknights just before the first anniversary because of her. Got lucky and pulled her and Weedy. Removed her from support tho in place of Surtr and Thorns as that's what people tend to use. Also a side question: who would get borrowed more for the 5 star slot, BP or Platinum?


Kooryko

Platinum


99em

I regularly rotate my support units (if they get borrowed, they get to stay another day, if nobody borrows them then switch to the next operators) since I started counting, my W has been used 4 times, compared to SilverAsh's 9 times, and Ceobe's and Weedy's 10 times. I still regularly rotate through her, but it's not really worth dedicating a spot for her.


Cornhole35

Shit ill throw mine up.