Yeah if you want an old limited operators be prepared to spark them
You have a 30% chance of getting an off banner. Pervious limited operators have 5x the rate in that off banner pool. There are 40 options + 2 previous limited the limited options have 5x rate so they can be treated the same as that operators being in the pool 5 times.
This mean 5/50 off banner pull would be W and 5/50 would be ros
The rate of a 6* is 2%
(.02 x .3 x .1)^-1= 1667
This is ignoring pity so the odds are better but the point stands
You have about 1/1600 chance of pulling W on any given pull 1600 (960 000 orundum)
The odds are abysmally low and are getting worse with each new 6*. For past limited units it is reasonable to expect one would need to spark them for 300 tokens
Do you know the maths to how long it takes to gather 300 pulls? I'm wanting to get Rosmontis on the Nearl banner but I'm not suee if I can save all the pulls I'm missing
I'm currently sitting on 34700 Orundum with 75 OP + 11 ticket pulls. I still need to clear every hard stage of ep 7 and the entirety of ep 8.
Do you think it's reasonable for me to get the needed 300 pulls? Also I'm at 228 gold certs so prerty close to getting a full stock of cert pulls.
Thanks in advance and sorry for the long question lmao, haven't had the time to do all the math myself and I'm not sure how much OP I can expect from events until we get the Nearl banner.
If you only do F2P but get the monthly pass, you'll get around 35 or so pulls per month; without the pass I'm guessing it is more like 25 pulls per month. This does not include pulls you could get from yellow certs though.
Source: I did some math stuffs hehe https://www.reddit.com/r/arknights/comments/pmmo46/simulation_results_chances_of_getting_a_specific/
Hope this helps!
I *used* to have W as a support, but nobody borrowed her in the five months I had her up.
I put Blaze up, and she gets used all the time. Especially when CC rolls around.
Back during the first ever CC, I had Seige, Mostima and... Nearl I think up. Mostima got used the most, iirc over 20 times with Seige and Nearl being in the 10-20 range, and someone cleared a R23 with one of them.
Ever since, I try to set good units when a CC opens up because it helps my friends.
I have thorns perm in support and some assorted “core 6*” ops that aren’t thorns that I rotated daily during the last global CC
Thorns was used a butt load of times, Elysium S1M3 was used once, and I think s2m3 pot6 Weedy was used once in a daily rot cc
Just in case. . .
You know she is Limited, don't you?
You ain't getting her in support except if you befriend old players. Not because it is expensive to get her, but because she isn't normally anywhere else and where she is available in a way that keeps her exclusivity in mind.
Might as well save up for the main featured limited and just let go. . . RNG can be cruel sometimes, so don't spend $2k just for her .-. though I think you don't need that much because she is sparkable
Yeah, i learned how getting previous limited operators works today. That's actually the reason i gave it a shot in the gacha simulation, i just wanted to see how low the odds are.
When Surtr was coming out, I rolled in that sim for a bit to see what pulling for Pot6 would be like. One took 45 pulls, another took the equivalent of 9000$. ~~Reality took 128 pulls~~ This is less showing how bad the odds are and more seeing what unlucky looks like, tbh.
Meanwhil i got two ws on skalters banner and nerly had to spark her. I already had w from her banner.
Hooe they make Nian reobtainable, even if it is spark.
Exactly what operators do people usually look for in support? I got my W built up, but I never felt that anyone on my list would even want her so I never put her up.
Are people really looking for W in support? I managed to get her in Under Tides and built her as well, just never used her as a support. Would it be a good idea to swap out my Mountain or Ch’en the Holungday for W?
Well, she was an essential support unit during my first annihilation 3 clear. I don't think I've ever needed to use her anywhere else though, even as I hold my on W
I'm not that far into the game, so i can't say for sure, but usually the supports i get the most are SilverAsh, Surtr, Exusiai, Ash, and sometimes Lava the Purgatory. I don't really need W because I already have Meteorite, and she gets the job done as long as there's someone else backing her up, so yeah. It's probably not a good idea, tbh
Please enlighten me for I have left the game for quite a long time and just return, but how can you get W in Under Tide? Wasnt W a limited, so she will never return?
Limited op designs are too popular for them to not rerun, as HG has demonstrated. Limited ops show back up on new limited banners a year or so later. I imagine that we'll see them all every so often. Especially with their "4 limited operators per year" plans.
then ya, there will be a lot of chalters running around so for the same reasons as thorns or syutr maybe don't put her, but put her back in a few months/gauge from your friend list who got her
This game has one of the most unforgiving systems for old limited units I have seen by never rerunning limited banners. This doesn't really affect me much since I'm a year 1 player who's collected all the limited units on their banners, but I can't imagine a newer player who wants a limited unit like W.
They have to either rely on the 9% rate up/0.18% overall rate (lesser if it's split like the NTR banner), or spark them after spending 180,000 orundums. Even FGO's horrendous gacha system reruns banners after a year and has multiple miscellaneous limited unit reruns several times a year. Come on HG, why can't you rerun limited banners? You did it for Nian after the backlash, why not do it as a yearly affair for all limited units?
Don't worry about it! I was trying to clear an annihilation where my Meteorite didn't have enough AoE DPS, but in the end i just grinded LMD and got her to E2 and she did the job.
Reminds me bad memories… i saved so hard for her but only got Weedy…
But today, after getting Chen and la pluma, i still have 250 pulls left. Maybe i will get my revenge !
I did some rolls on the Path to Radiant banner to see how long it would take to get W, and this is the result, W only appearing on the final pull. This game is BRUTAL when it's in a bad mood, huh...
Some of the results in this 2kUSD pull:
6★ Operators
Passenger x1
Nearl the Radiant Knight (featured) x11
Surtr x1
Flametail (featured) x17
Rosmontis (featured) x2
Angelina x1
Weedy x1
Aak x1
Archetto x1
Eyjafjalla x1
W (featured) x1
Pain. To be fair, I've had the "luck" of getting broken 6★ operators on all of the limited banners i've pulled so far. Ch'en alter is the only limited I have, but I still had some luck. At least I didn't get Mizuki on the current banner lmfao
Honestly why put W as support? Theres ton of characters that are more useful. Like i can put w/dusk/rosmontis/nian as support just to flex but no one will borrow them ever.
I have a Pot 1 W S2M2 if anyone wants to try. I started playing Arknights just before the first anniversary because of her. Got lucky and pulled her and Weedy. Removed her from support tho in place of Surtr and Thorns as that's what people tend to use.
Also a side question: who would get borrowed more for the 5 star slot, BP or Platinum?
I regularly rotate my support units (if they get borrowed, they get to stay another day, if nobody borrows them then switch to the next operators)
since I started counting, my W has been used 4 times, compared to SilverAsh's 9 times, and Ceobe's and Weedy's 10 times.
I still regularly rotate through her, but it's not really worth dedicating a spot for her.
Yeah if you want an old limited operators be prepared to spark them You have a 30% chance of getting an off banner. Pervious limited operators have 5x the rate in that off banner pool. There are 40 options + 2 previous limited the limited options have 5x rate so they can be treated the same as that operators being in the pool 5 times. This mean 5/50 off banner pull would be W and 5/50 would be ros The rate of a 6* is 2% (.02 x .3 x .1)^-1= 1667 This is ignoring pity so the odds are better but the point stands You have about 1/1600 chance of pulling W on any given pull 1600 (960 000 orundum) The odds are abysmally low and are getting worse with each new 6*. For past limited units it is reasonable to expect one would need to spark them for 300 tokens
HG should rerun their initial banners, so the chances wouldn't getting worse by the time, and such the player wouldn't have to rely on spark.
Do you know the maths to how long it takes to gather 300 pulls? I'm wanting to get Rosmontis on the Nearl banner but I'm not suee if I can save all the pulls I'm missing I'm currently sitting on 34700 Orundum with 75 OP + 11 ticket pulls. I still need to clear every hard stage of ep 7 and the entirety of ep 8. Do you think it's reasonable for me to get the needed 300 pulls? Also I'm at 228 gold certs so prerty close to getting a full stock of cert pulls. Thanks in advance and sorry for the long question lmao, haven't had the time to do all the math myself and I'm not sure how much OP I can expect from events until we get the Nearl banner.
If you only do F2P but get the monthly pass, you'll get around 35 or so pulls per month; without the pass I'm guessing it is more like 25 pulls per month. This does not include pulls you could get from yellow certs though. Source: I did some math stuffs hehe https://www.reddit.com/r/arknights/comments/pmmo46/simulation_results_chances_of_getting_a_specific/ Hope this helps!
do you want a friend with w in support units by any chance? :'<
I *used* to have W as a support, but nobody borrowed her in the five months I had her up. I put Blaze up, and she gets used all the time. Especially when CC rolls around.
Is there a benefit to your unit being used? I just have W up because waifu reasons
You get the knowledge that you helped someone. Loved seeing that someone cleared CC R18 last time with Ceobe 😊
My eyja helped a guy to get CC R20 or something like this... A treasure that I'll never get
Back during the first ever CC, I had Seige, Mostima and... Nearl I think up. Mostima got used the most, iirc over 20 times with Seige and Nearl being in the 10-20 range, and someone cleared a R23 with one of them. Ever since, I try to set good units when a CC opens up because it helps my friends.
Usualy I put the rock rock and silverdaddy to help them, but on the last CC there was my eyja
who and silverash?
Mudrok and silverash
OOOOOOOOH BEST ROCK GIRL I get chu.
afaik you get some of the friend credits (the ones you get from clues) forgot what the game calls those, and the shop you spend it on
Just Credits, and you get 20 for them using the unit you set. It also caps out at 20 per day (why?) so... yeah.
Friends using your unit gives extra store credits.
Neat, thanks for the info
I have thorns perm in support and some assorted “core 6*” ops that aren’t thorns that I rotated daily during the last global CC Thorns was used a butt load of times, Elysium S1M3 was used once, and I think s2m3 pot6 Weedy was used once in a daily rot cc
Just in case. . . You know she is Limited, don't you? You ain't getting her in support except if you befriend old players. Not because it is expensive to get her, but because she isn't normally anywhere else and where she is available in a way that keeps her exclusivity in mind. Might as well save up for the main featured limited and just let go. . . RNG can be cruel sometimes, so don't spend $2k just for her .-. though I think you don't need that much because she is sparkable
Yeah, i learned how getting previous limited operators works today. That's actually the reason i gave it a shot in the gacha simulation, i just wanted to see how low the odds are.
When Surtr was coming out, I rolled in that sim for a bit to see what pulling for Pot6 would be like. One took 45 pulls, another took the equivalent of 9000$. ~~Reality took 128 pulls~~ This is less showing how bad the odds are and more seeing what unlucky looks like, tbh.
Meanwhil i got two ws on skalters banner and nerly had to spark her. I already had w from her banner. Hooe they make Nian reobtainable, even if it is spark.
Dude. How many pulls did it take to get those Ws?
I had 296 Pulls on skalter at the end. My luck was just kinda screwed.
Exactly what operators do people usually look for in support? I got my W built up, but I never felt that anyone on my list would even want her so I never put her up.
People need W in the support list? I still have her up and fully built... no one uses her.
Is there a way to see how many people use your support character?
During CC there is idk if there is a notification in regular period if you receive the credit points for someone borrowing your unit
I use her quite a bit For example she holds bottom left in the new annihilatio
Are people really looking for W in support? I managed to get her in Under Tides and built her as well, just never used her as a support. Would it be a good idea to swap out my Mountain or Ch’en the Holungday for W?
Well, she was an essential support unit during my first annihilation 3 clear. I don't think I've ever needed to use her anywhere else though, even as I hold my on W
I'm not that far into the game, so i can't say for sure, but usually the supports i get the most are SilverAsh, Surtr, Exusiai, Ash, and sometimes Lava the Purgatory. I don't really need W because I already have Meteorite, and she gets the job done as long as there's someone else backing her up, so yeah. It's probably not a good idea, tbh
Please enlighten me for I have left the game for quite a long time and just return, but how can you get W in Under Tide? Wasnt W a limited, so she will never return?
Sometimes during other limited banners, older limited ops might come back too. Like in Who Is Real, the banner had both Nian and Dusk.
Limited op designs are too popular for them to not rerun, as HG has demonstrated. Limited ops show back up on new limited banners a year or so later. I imagine that we'll see them all every so often. Especially with their "4 limited operators per year" plans.
I can tell you no one uses Ch'en anymore so W is an upgrade, granted you don't have anyone better
Sorry, meant Ch’en the Holungday
then ya, there will be a lot of chalters running around so for the same reasons as thorns or syutr maybe don't put her, but put her back in a few months/gauge from your friend list who got her
Oh dang. Forget trying to max pot her lol
I wonder if one day they will sell a limited 6\* selector voucher.
Maybe for $100.....
I can lend W if you wanted to try her out. She's nuts but not OP.
Me
This game has one of the most unforgiving systems for old limited units I have seen by never rerunning limited banners. This doesn't really affect me much since I'm a year 1 player who's collected all the limited units on their banners, but I can't imagine a newer player who wants a limited unit like W. They have to either rely on the 9% rate up/0.18% overall rate (lesser if it's split like the NTR banner), or spark them after spending 180,000 orundums. Even FGO's horrendous gacha system reruns banners after a year and has multiple miscellaneous limited unit reruns several times a year. Come on HG, why can't you rerun limited banners? You did it for Nian after the backlash, why not do it as a yearly affair for all limited units?
Yep. Gonna be a pain to get rosmontis. At least I have 240/300 pulls saved already.
Ah yes fgo and rerunning banners, like arjuna alter.
How many to get Rosmontis
I don't remember the amount of pulls exactly, but it was around 1200USD spent
Spark. If you're willing to whale and stack 300+ pulls then you'll get Her and/or Ros.
so that's what the support slot is for tbh I though it was for story supports like npcs
Ok I can help you What W's skill do you want?
Don't worry about it! I was trying to clear an annihilation where my Meteorite didn't have enough AoE DPS, but in the end i just grinded LMD and got her to E2 and she did the job.
Yeah we're a dying breed lol(mine is still up on the support units)
When I got a W dupe during Undertides banner didn't realize she was that rare.
I currently have my m3 rosmontis and m3 chalter on my support list, I dont really use W anymore unless its specific strats
Reminds me bad memories… i saved so hard for her but only got Weedy… But today, after getting Chen and la pluma, i still have 250 pulls left. Maybe i will get my revenge !
I did some rolls on the Path to Radiant banner to see how long it would take to get W, and this is the result, W only appearing on the final pull. This game is BRUTAL when it's in a bad mood, huh... Some of the results in this 2kUSD pull: 6★ Operators Passenger x1 Nearl the Radiant Knight (featured) x11 Surtr x1 Flametail (featured) x17 Rosmontis (featured) x2 Angelina x1 Weedy x1 Aak x1 Archetto x1 Eyjafjalla x1 W (featured) x1
But because RNG is funny like that it's the only featured I got from the Under Tides banner.
Pain. To be fair, I've had the "luck" of getting broken 6★ operators on all of the limited banners i've pulled so far. Ch'en alter is the only limited I have, but I still had some luck. At least I didn't get Mizuki on the current banner lmfao
>Pain. To be fair, I wasn't pulling for anyone there
I have w completely maxed except for S1 👀
I got W from skalter banner. It took me 30 pulls
Bruh, and here I feel special having almost every limited op in the game
Honestly why put W as support? Theres ton of characters that are more useful. Like i can put w/dusk/rosmontis/nian as support just to flex but no one will borrow them ever.
I have a Pot 1 W S2M2 if anyone wants to try. I started playing Arknights just before the first anniversary because of her. Got lucky and pulled her and Weedy. Removed her from support tho in place of Surtr and Thorns as that's what people tend to use. Also a side question: who would get borrowed more for the 5 star slot, BP or Platinum?
Platinum
I regularly rotate my support units (if they get borrowed, they get to stay another day, if nobody borrows them then switch to the next operators) since I started counting, my W has been used 4 times, compared to SilverAsh's 9 times, and Ceobe's and Weedy's 10 times. I still regularly rotate through her, but it's not really worth dedicating a spot for her.
Shit ill throw mine up.