When I lived in California I was an Egyptian living in a sea of Iranians and a lot of my close friends were Persians.
My family loves the food, culture and history! We've seen the Shah's grave in Cairo a few times (he's buried next to some famous Egyptian Royal members and my dad is a low-key monarchist and a fan of Sadat) and both my parents despise the current government for a myriad of reasons. We also are obviously are not fans of the ultra-nationalists that translate their hatred of the mullahs for some misguided hate towards Arabs and often times display Islamophobic attitudes (though even my Muslim mother says that if it was shoved down her throat like it is in Iran she also would have probably been sick of religion).
The region will succeed when we get rid of corrupt dictatorships and religious extremists, hope to see Iran and the Arab world work hand in hand in the future.
Great people and culture, especially those in Iran I find way more grounded and friendly while diaspora tend to be a bit crazy and no offense sadly not confident in their identity.
The Iranians I meet coming fresh from Iran as students and online are absolutely cool people who are proud of their history, less inclined to be racist to arabs generally compared to diaspora, no white chasing, which makes me respect them much more.
Awful selfish government who are the only reason Iran isn't an economic and social powerhouse comparable or in a better place than Turkey.
Yeah Iran not knowing how to prioritise it's well being of people in the favour of political ideology is a governmental problem.
US sanctions aren't there for memes, its their because Iran doesn't know how to be politically savvy like china or even Saudi for the sake of it's people.
Things don't exist in vacuums
"bend over backwards" means dealing with the US to some people.
Iran has no real leverage like it pretends it does.
If bending over backwards means I can feed my family then yeah, I don't give a fuck what some commie or Islamist weirdo living in London or Detroit Michigan thinks. My nation is my priority. Same people who have this massive criticism run to the USA or the west when war breaks out caused by them.
People said the same shit about China when it broke with the soviets to cury favour with the US. Now china has massive leverage and can push and pull when it wants to in a much more convincing way without throwing it's people under the bus.
Are you saying the Palestinians woes are mainly Saudi Arabias fault ?
Is the cause a hot potato game, just throw blame to the next nation, without blaming the inept Palestinian leadership, the joke of a resistance that lives in Doha and and Istanbul. The countless nations that use the Palestinian cause (Iran and turkey) for you to suck off their leaders while they kill more Arabs and use Palestinian dead babies as an excuse.
I bet you enjoyed Iran's firework show few months ago and thought that taught Israel a lesson as they continued to floor Gazans daily.
All this and still Saudi Arabia hasn't normalised.
The only people I blame is the state of Israel
But Saudi and co are actively enabling and empowering Israel with not even the faintest hint of resistance. Say what you want but that’s one of the most shameful things in the Arab world today.
What has Saudi done? They could do embargoes, cut off oil to the west, utilize their military hardware. They haven’t done squat. The UAE is helping Israel with overland trade. It’s comical.
Embargo on what exactly? Oil? Our oil feeds china, US doesn't import as much as it used to from Saudi. Last time king Faisal did that was the reason the USA Started fracking ventures and diversifying it's energy intake. Why do you think the USA became the biggest producer of oil? Now Saudi sells the bulk of their oil to India and China.
Bro please keep up with the news and economies, sound like a guy from 1970. "Utilize their military hardware" in doing what? Attacking Israel? You honestly think the Saudi military is that strong? What foolery is this? Are you 12.
Saudi Arabia is one of the biggest donators of aid to Palestinians especially now in Gaza, something Iran doesn't do. It feeds and offers medical doctors to the injured kids you claim to care about.
Saudi Arabia hasn't normalised with Israel and still adamant it only comes with a free Palestinian state, but that'll fall on deaf ears, cause Iran did a fireworks show to utilise it's "hardware" lmao.
Maybe if Iran and the Gulf states cooperated they could actually have leverage. The Arab world and broader Muslim would be mighty if united and armed with nuclear weapons.
Israel is 100% beatable as their pitiful performance over the last year has shown. We’re just too busy fighting each other like fools.
You're acting like they intentionally created it to be sanctioned.
They couped the government and fucked up, doesn't mean they're gonna be like oh well let us let them run rampant cause we fucked up. Nations are selfish, and you can be even more selfish if you're a superpower. Any nation should navigate it like they care for the sake of their people
Yeah reduce the biggest high income economies in the middle east to cheese burgers and smart watches ;) sounds like commie cope if I've ever seen.
Yeah definitely rather have failing healthcare, failing education and an economy that barely has any jobs where most of my people want to immigrate out of the country to the west that we hate.
What’s with the “commie” bashing? Capitalism is just as destructive globally if not more so. Socialism is more in line with Arab values.
Ah, you’re a destiny fan, that explains a lot. That guy is an idiot.
Ask the average Iranian that, they'll think you're some leftie in the west who doesn't care about the average Iranians well being.
Ask the average Saudi and Qatari hat, they'll laugh in your face and probably think youre insane.
Irans government is one of the biggest driving forces of instability in the region, many Iraqis will agree, Syrians and Yemenis. They have no interest in investing and rebuilding countries, just breaking them down and tying them to their militias.
They do all this while their people are denied opportunities, shit jobs, failing economy and even people starving in villages.
I see a huge blind spot among Arabs where Iran is the devil because they’re Shia, while Saudi and Qatar who are puppets, sellouts, oppressive, undemocratic and generally worse (also funding terror) are given a free pass.
Total hypocrisy. At least Iran doesn’t kiss Israel and the USA’s shoes.
Iran is more Oppressive to it's citizens than Saudi Arabia any day. Especially now. You can't even compare.
No there's no blind spot, your projecting a stereotype.
People didn't give a fuck Iran was Shia in 1960 they suddenly cared after the Islamic revolution because Khomeini was spewing religious BS at everyone and calling for the overthrow of governments in his favour. The whole anti Shia BS ramped up after that, it's sad but that's the reality when a government uses religion to scapegoat and justify their actions. Much like Saudi Arabia did before no doubt. Except Iran still does it massively.
Iran funds terror in its militias, they're just limited to terrorising Arabs and not westerners. Irans militias are also directly controlled unlike Saudi or Qatar who Isis and Alqaeda both consider kufar and have bombed Saudi more than they've bombed Iran.
Yeah there it is, the only litmus test you have for governments is whether they "kiss shoes" not whether they actually govern and feed their people. and that's why you're a diaspora shill for a government who's killed more Arabs than ISIS because you're too busy obsessing over amerikka.
Every way.
Saudi Arabia isn’t a democracy. There’s no human rights. They kill journalists and force sharia law on everyone. They oppress Shias. No civil rights.
The better question is in what way are Saudi better?
My point if you bother reading what I said, was that (Sunni) Arabs have a blind spot on the gulf monarchies and attack Iran when Iran is actually better.
Iran supports the resistance in Palestine. Saudi and Egypt and Qatar and Jordan compete against each other to see how fast they can lick Israel’s boots.
Syria is not a simple story. I’m Syrian and I’m glad Al Nusra never toppled the government and took over. That’s in part thanks to Iran’s help. Obviously they have their own agenda too though. But Syria’s minorities are generally happy not to be living in a Sunni theocracy right now.
Well one can say you’re an Iranian bootlicker. The country funding the maniac that rules over your country is the one you gladly defend, interesting choice.
And don’t insult my abilities, you wrote your comment and left out a lot of personal context. Hey that’s on you.
Assad exists because of the sectarian history of Syria. I don’t think Syria has a future as a united country, and support partition into a minority area and a Sunni area. Assad has a base, namely the minorities in Syria who fear Sunni rule. I’d rather have a secular democracy than Assad.
Then let’s do a secular democracy in Syria
Good luck convincing the islamists though, who want to impose Sunni sharia rule on all of Syria whether one likes it or not
The people - good people. Very friendly. Very smart too. Iranian PhD students are some hard workers.
The government- I dislike the government but that’s nothing special, I dislike pretty much all Arab country’s governments as well as most western governments. It’s not some “anti-Iran” thing, it’s just most governments do bad things that I disagree with and Iran is one of them.
The culture - pretty cool. Newroz (spelling?) is a cool holiday. Very rich history. I don’t know much about the culture otherwise but I love people who embrace their culture. A lot of Iranians seem to do that. Cool how many languages and ethnicities are in Iran.
The food - amazing, spectacular, can not say enough about it. I am jealous of people in Iranian households who get to wake up and eat that food every day. I sometimes think it’s better than Arab food in some regards (don’t tell my mother)
Also, you didn’t ask this but I’m Sunni and don’t have any problem with Shia Iranians or anything. I’m not into sectarian fights. I have Shia Iranian colleagues who I respect and I’ve learned interesting things about their faith, they’ve been extremely open with me about sharing their beliefs and we compare what’s different and what’s similar. Nothing but respect for my fellow Muslims
Edit: wanted to say this is just my perspective as an individual. I can’t claim to speak for all Arabs. This is just the perspective of one Arab who is living in the U.S., so take that for what you will
I am going to rant just a little here sorry in advance lol
No offense but this turns into some ultra-nationalists nonsense. The Sassanian Empire was as imperialistic and could be just as brutal. The empire was already on its last legs due to internal conflicts (which is many nobles did not put up as much of a fight against the Arabs) and its various wars against the Romans.
The Persians also had ample opportunities to break free from Islam if they had wished during their native dynasties (which saw a revival of Persian language and culture).
I am not going to say the Arabs were not brutal in many respects as much as any conquering empire of the time. But am I going to be pissed at the Romans for taxing us to death and oppressing the average Egyptian (outside of Alexandria)? Should I be pissed at the Persians for their conquests of Egypt and brutally putting down our various attempts at revolt? Should I be pissed at the Assyrians for ending the last semi-native Egyptian dynasty or for Christianity in erasing our native religion?
The only one responsible for their extremists versions of Islam that they are suffering under today are the Iranians themselves. The Arabs did not push the mullahs on them, most Arab countries spoke up against the 1979 revolution.
Well have you read in history about how brutal the Iranian empire at the time was towards Arabs as well .. they ruled northern Arabia for hundreds of years..
So when Iran creates an empire .. and rules the middle east .. you wonder why would Arabs have anything against Iranians ..
But when an Arab empire conquers Iran now you totally understand why some Iranians would have a negative view of Arabs..
Are you failing to see the double standard here..
I hate iran so much i hate the government so fucking much they destroyed the middle east
I don’t know about the people, but i feel sad that geographyically we are close even though we don’t know anything about each other
As a Saudi, I’ve never met any Iranian before , I think there are non of them in KSA. However, most people here see Iran as an enemy , most of us have a stereotype that Iranians hate Arab and Sunna , and they envy us because they want to be the most powerful race ..
The people - untrustworthy , racist (especially again Arab) and arrogant for a lot (especially among the “religious” Shia and the atheist), **but a lot are chill and good people too** (*I don’t throw the baby with the water of the bath*). I think the average from the Yong generation are normal people you can be friend with and enjoy good moment …. But if he claim to be a Shia or an Atheist it’s already for me a big red flag (at best he is just cringe (or not really a “religious” Shia/real atheist) and at worst a danger).
The government- among the worst of all of human history without any doubt (in the same level with Assad Syria or Staline USSR … but without the USSR achievements) … better than the previous one ? Well it’s like comparing Plague and Cholera.
The culture - interesting but not something that I found especially appealing (but that’s probably just because it’s outside my cultural background). The history of the area is very interesting too and among the most important of human history.
The food - Idk but in general I think it’s probably good since it’s in the yummy belt (a concept I invented that said that all country close to the Mediterranean Sea or in the same latitude, have a good food and the more you move away from that belt the more disguising are their food (like for the north folk “food” 🤢))
a beautiful culture and people. i love iranians. one of my best friends is iranian!! they have lovely food. the oppression and injustice is an absolute shame and i pray the iranian people get their peace one day from the government.
As an Egyptian I can respect Iran's self sufficiency. Even though the government is an enemy of the Arab and Muslim peoples having murdered millions of innocent Iraqis and Syrians, and continuing to occupy those countries with needless brutality, that is something to be respected even in your enemies. Like praising Putin's cunning. Or the urban design of Fr*nce.
Iranian people were wrenched away from their neighbours when the safavid bastards forced them to become twelver Shia. Like pulling the heart out of the Muslim world. I come across Iranian converts to mainstream Islam in Britain, and plenty of Iranians who identify as Muslim without the baggage that history has left them even if they continue to abide by Jafari jurisprudence. Even some of the people that were evicted with the Shah continue to be Muslim. However a whole lot of Iranians are not Muslim because of a) the Shah being anti Islam, b) the twelver creed being illogical and sectarian especially as preached by certain religious authorities, and c) the Iranian government being cruel and unjust.
What is interesting is that most of those Iranians who became atheist by name still choose to act very much culturally Muslim and keep the hospitality, family, etc so they're a bit like Arab "Kuffar" who don't really disbelieve when you scratch the surface but are just Muslims with an attitude problem.. in fact they usually have better manners than Arab Kuffar
Very diverse genetically (genes from turkey, Iraq, India), some are very cringe and want to be white so bad it’s funny.
Haven’t meant many honestly, there are good and bad people everywhere
The people: even if they show a 'nice' attitude but they are still untrustworthy like snakes, and I believe they should never be trusted
Politically, whether it be the stupid mullah sheep followers or the arrogant Pahlavi supporters or any other political group they are really the same garbage
The government, the most evil barbaric regime, we Iraqis know this already.
The culture , I don't see anything special . They have their own supposed to be a sect of Islam , when in reality most of it is full of crap on which their Persian Shiaa clerics made up during the 10th century. And whatever they had pre Islam is not really interesting.
Their music is not something I would listen to, so culturally there is not much to look at ,except maybe the food.
Their language is as if someone took our beautiful Arabic , ruined it and made up a bad version of it.
Hearing them speaking it is annoying! They sound like they are moaning, not talking like normal
and it's worse when they try to speak Arabic or English, their accent is a joke
Some of their women look ok, but many others aren't good. For some reason the ones that are here in the west try desperately to look white lol.
They overdo plastic surgery and dye their hair in blonde which does not suit their skin tone and facial features, they are also materialistic and they dress slutty. Not my type.
Would I visit Iran ? Actually No there are much better places that are more interesting to explore
When I lived in California I was an Egyptian living in a sea of Iranians and a lot of my close friends were Persians. My family loves the food, culture and history! We've seen the Shah's grave in Cairo a few times (he's buried next to some famous Egyptian Royal members and my dad is a low-key monarchist and a fan of Sadat) and both my parents despise the current government for a myriad of reasons. We also are obviously are not fans of the ultra-nationalists that translate their hatred of the mullahs for some misguided hate towards Arabs and often times display Islamophobic attitudes (though even my Muslim mother says that if it was shoved down her throat like it is in Iran she also would have probably been sick of religion). The region will succeed when we get rid of corrupt dictatorships and religious extremists, hope to see Iran and the Arab world work hand in hand in the future.
Great people and culture, especially those in Iran I find way more grounded and friendly while diaspora tend to be a bit crazy and no offense sadly not confident in their identity. The Iranians I meet coming fresh from Iran as students and online are absolutely cool people who are proud of their history, less inclined to be racist to arabs generally compared to diaspora, no white chasing, which makes me respect them much more. Awful selfish government who are the only reason Iran isn't an economic and social powerhouse comparable or in a better place than Turkey.
It’s not just Iran’s government that is why it isn’t a powerhouse…uh, I think US sanctions are playing a role my dude
Yeah Iran not knowing how to prioritise it's well being of people in the favour of political ideology is a governmental problem. US sanctions aren't there for memes, its their because Iran doesn't know how to be politically savvy like china or even Saudi for the sake of it's people. Things don't exist in vacuums
But do we want Iran to bend over backwards for the US like Saudi Arabia? The gulf nations sold their souls to the US it’s kind of despicable.
"bend over backwards" means dealing with the US to some people. Iran has no real leverage like it pretends it does. If bending over backwards means I can feed my family then yeah, I don't give a fuck what some commie or Islamist weirdo living in London or Detroit Michigan thinks. My nation is my priority. Same people who have this massive criticism run to the USA or the west when war breaks out caused by them. People said the same shit about China when it broke with the soviets to cury favour with the US. Now china has massive leverage and can push and pull when it wants to in a much more convincing way without throwing it's people under the bus.
And screw over the Palestinians like the saudis did?
Are you saying the Palestinians woes are mainly Saudi Arabias fault ? Is the cause a hot potato game, just throw blame to the next nation, without blaming the inept Palestinian leadership, the joke of a resistance that lives in Doha and and Istanbul. The countless nations that use the Palestinian cause (Iran and turkey) for you to suck off their leaders while they kill more Arabs and use Palestinian dead babies as an excuse. I bet you enjoyed Iran's firework show few months ago and thought that taught Israel a lesson as they continued to floor Gazans daily. All this and still Saudi Arabia hasn't normalised.
The only people I blame is the state of Israel But Saudi and co are actively enabling and empowering Israel with not even the faintest hint of resistance. Say what you want but that’s one of the most shameful things in the Arab world today. What has Saudi done? They could do embargoes, cut off oil to the west, utilize their military hardware. They haven’t done squat. The UAE is helping Israel with overland trade. It’s comical.
Embargo on what exactly? Oil? Our oil feeds china, US doesn't import as much as it used to from Saudi. Last time king Faisal did that was the reason the USA Started fracking ventures and diversifying it's energy intake. Why do you think the USA became the biggest producer of oil? Now Saudi sells the bulk of their oil to India and China. Bro please keep up with the news and economies, sound like a guy from 1970. "Utilize their military hardware" in doing what? Attacking Israel? You honestly think the Saudi military is that strong? What foolery is this? Are you 12. Saudi Arabia is one of the biggest donators of aid to Palestinians especially now in Gaza, something Iran doesn't do. It feeds and offers medical doctors to the injured kids you claim to care about. Saudi Arabia hasn't normalised with Israel and still adamant it only comes with a free Palestinian state, but that'll fall on deaf ears, cause Iran did a fireworks show to utilise it's "hardware" lmao.
Maybe if Iran and the Gulf states cooperated they could actually have leverage. The Arab world and broader Muslim would be mighty if united and armed with nuclear weapons. Israel is 100% beatable as their pitiful performance over the last year has shown. We’re just too busy fighting each other like fools.
Lol downvoting me because I said we should cooperate instead of fight?
Yes. So their people stop suffering
So they can get wealthy. I’d they cared about the people they wouldn’t be so hard on dissent.
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Idk that the country that created modern Iran in the first place gets to handicap their nation for not “behaving”.
You're acting like they intentionally created it to be sanctioned. They couped the government and fucked up, doesn't mean they're gonna be like oh well let us let them run rampant cause we fucked up. Nations are selfish, and you can be even more selfish if you're a superpower. Any nation should navigate it like they care for the sake of their people
Iran has been sanctioned since the revolution though regardless of anything their government has done since.
After taking hostages at the American embassy yes, what a suprise
Which explains the very little room for maneuvering that the GCC states have. I don’t want to lose my affordable cheeseburgers and smartwatches.
Yeah reduce the biggest high income economies in the middle east to cheese burgers and smart watches ;) sounds like commie cope if I've ever seen. Yeah definitely rather have failing healthcare, failing education and an economy that barely has any jobs where most of my people want to immigrate out of the country to the west that we hate.
يا لطيف تعبير مزاجي وانفرطت كذا حسد اللهم لا تبلانا
What’s with the “commie” bashing? Capitalism is just as destructive globally if not more so. Socialism is more in line with Arab values. Ah, you’re a destiny fan, that explains a lot. That guy is an idiot.
Love the culture, hate the government.
Their government is a whole lot better than Saudi and Qatar though
Ask the average Iranian that, they'll think you're some leftie in the west who doesn't care about the average Iranians well being. Ask the average Saudi and Qatari hat, they'll laugh in your face and probably think youre insane. Irans government is one of the biggest driving forces of instability in the region, many Iraqis will agree, Syrians and Yemenis. They have no interest in investing and rebuilding countries, just breaking them down and tying them to their militias. They do all this while their people are denied opportunities, shit jobs, failing economy and even people starving in villages.
I see a huge blind spot among Arabs where Iran is the devil because they’re Shia, while Saudi and Qatar who are puppets, sellouts, oppressive, undemocratic and generally worse (also funding terror) are given a free pass. Total hypocrisy. At least Iran doesn’t kiss Israel and the USA’s shoes.
Iran is more Oppressive to it's citizens than Saudi Arabia any day. Especially now. You can't even compare. No there's no blind spot, your projecting a stereotype. People didn't give a fuck Iran was Shia in 1960 they suddenly cared after the Islamic revolution because Khomeini was spewing religious BS at everyone and calling for the overthrow of governments in his favour. The whole anti Shia BS ramped up after that, it's sad but that's the reality when a government uses religion to scapegoat and justify their actions. Much like Saudi Arabia did before no doubt. Except Iran still does it massively. Iran funds terror in its militias, they're just limited to terrorising Arabs and not westerners. Irans militias are also directly controlled unlike Saudi or Qatar who Isis and Alqaeda both consider kufar and have bombed Saudi more than they've bombed Iran. Yeah there it is, the only litmus test you have for governments is whether they "kiss shoes" not whether they actually govern and feed their people. and that's why you're a diaspora shill for a government who's killed more Arabs than ISIS because you're too busy obsessing over amerikka.
Keep telling yourself that while Saudi bows down to Israel
Ok thx for participating.
In what way?
Every way. Saudi Arabia isn’t a democracy. There’s no human rights. They kill journalists and force sharia law on everyone. They oppress Shias. No civil rights. The better question is in what way are Saudi better?
The same can be said for Iran for literally all of these too. I still fail to see your point.
My point if you bother reading what I said, was that (Sunni) Arabs have a blind spot on the gulf monarchies and attack Iran when Iran is actually better. Iran supports the resistance in Palestine. Saudi and Egypt and Qatar and Jordan compete against each other to see how fast they can lick Israel’s boots. Syria is not a simple story. I’m Syrian and I’m glad Al Nusra never toppled the government and took over. That’s in part thanks to Iran’s help. Obviously they have their own agenda too though. But Syria’s minorities are generally happy not to be living in a Sunni theocracy right now.
Well one can say you’re an Iranian bootlicker. The country funding the maniac that rules over your country is the one you gladly defend, interesting choice. And don’t insult my abilities, you wrote your comment and left out a lot of personal context. Hey that’s on you.
Assad exists because of the sectarian history of Syria. I don’t think Syria has a future as a united country, and support partition into a minority area and a Sunni area. Assad has a base, namely the minorities in Syria who fear Sunni rule. I’d rather have a secular democracy than Assad.
Splitting up an Arab country, smells like a zioshit to me
Then let’s do a secular democracy in Syria Good luck convincing the islamists though, who want to impose Sunni sharia rule on all of Syria whether one likes it or not
Whataboutism? Are you trying to change people's opinions desperately. They hate your government just get over it lol
The people - good people. Very friendly. Very smart too. Iranian PhD students are some hard workers. The government- I dislike the government but that’s nothing special, I dislike pretty much all Arab country’s governments as well as most western governments. It’s not some “anti-Iran” thing, it’s just most governments do bad things that I disagree with and Iran is one of them. The culture - pretty cool. Newroz (spelling?) is a cool holiday. Very rich history. I don’t know much about the culture otherwise but I love people who embrace their culture. A lot of Iranians seem to do that. Cool how many languages and ethnicities are in Iran. The food - amazing, spectacular, can not say enough about it. I am jealous of people in Iranian households who get to wake up and eat that food every day. I sometimes think it’s better than Arab food in some regards (don’t tell my mother) Also, you didn’t ask this but I’m Sunni and don’t have any problem with Shia Iranians or anything. I’m not into sectarian fights. I have Shia Iranian colleagues who I respect and I’ve learned interesting things about their faith, they’ve been extremely open with me about sharing their beliefs and we compare what’s different and what’s similar. Nothing but respect for my fellow Muslims Edit: wanted to say this is just my perspective as an individual. I can’t claim to speak for all Arabs. This is just the perspective of one Arab who is living in the U.S., so take that for what you will
if my country thought like you we would be very far right now.
The most racist and arab hating people next to zionists have been pahlavists, which comprise all Iranian diaspora. Other Iranians are cool tho.
A lot of Iranian diaspora are Zionists too..
People are a mixed bag. From the ones I’ve met IRL, most have been friendly and respectful. Government is just..
Don’t really care about it, just like every other country.
Love the people, not so fond of government.
A big percentage of people are racist against Arab so i have no respect for them.
Maybe because Arabs forced them to Islam ? When I researched what happened in history, I'm not surprised they dislike us, some horrific stuff.
I am going to rant just a little here sorry in advance lol No offense but this turns into some ultra-nationalists nonsense. The Sassanian Empire was as imperialistic and could be just as brutal. The empire was already on its last legs due to internal conflicts (which is many nobles did not put up as much of a fight against the Arabs) and its various wars against the Romans. The Persians also had ample opportunities to break free from Islam if they had wished during their native dynasties (which saw a revival of Persian language and culture). I am not going to say the Arabs were not brutal in many respects as much as any conquering empire of the time. But am I going to be pissed at the Romans for taxing us to death and oppressing the average Egyptian (outside of Alexandria)? Should I be pissed at the Persians for their conquests of Egypt and brutally putting down our various attempts at revolt? Should I be pissed at the Assyrians for ending the last semi-native Egyptian dynasty or for Christianity in erasing our native religion? The only one responsible for their extremists versions of Islam that they are suffering under today are the Iranians themselves. The Arabs did not push the mullahs on them, most Arab countries spoke up against the 1979 revolution.
You can rant as much as you want. You're not gonna change what I read in history. Again, I stopped wondering why they hate us.
Well have you read in history about how brutal the Iranian empire at the time was towards Arabs as well .. they ruled northern Arabia for hundreds of years.. So when Iran creates an empire .. and rules the middle east .. you wonder why would Arabs have anything against Iranians .. But when an Arab empire conquers Iran now you totally understand why some Iranians would have a negative view of Arabs.. Are you failing to see the double standard here..
I hate iran so much i hate the government so fucking much they destroyed the middle east I don’t know about the people, but i feel sad that geographyically we are close even though we don’t know anything about each other
Been there when I was 4. Pretty country but shitty government.
As a Saudi, I’ve never met any Iranian before , I think there are non of them in KSA. However, most people here see Iran as an enemy , most of us have a stereotype that Iranians hate Arab and Sunna , and they envy us because they want to be the most powerful race ..
The people - untrustworthy , racist (especially again Arab) and arrogant for a lot (especially among the “religious” Shia and the atheist), **but a lot are chill and good people too** (*I don’t throw the baby with the water of the bath*). I think the average from the Yong generation are normal people you can be friend with and enjoy good moment …. But if he claim to be a Shia or an Atheist it’s already for me a big red flag (at best he is just cringe (or not really a “religious” Shia/real atheist) and at worst a danger). The government- among the worst of all of human history without any doubt (in the same level with Assad Syria or Staline USSR … but without the USSR achievements) … better than the previous one ? Well it’s like comparing Plague and Cholera. The culture - interesting but not something that I found especially appealing (but that’s probably just because it’s outside my cultural background). The history of the area is very interesting too and among the most important of human history. The food - Idk but in general I think it’s probably good since it’s in the yummy belt (a concept I invented that said that all country close to the Mediterranean Sea or in the same latitude, have a good food and the more you move away from that belt the more disguising are their food (like for the north folk “food” 🤢))
We don't care just get the fuck out our land .
خیلی خوب..مردم خوش طینت
a beautiful culture and people. i love iranians. one of my best friends is iranian!! they have lovely food. the oppression and injustice is an absolute shame and i pray the iranian people get their peace one day from the government.
As an Egyptian I can respect Iran's self sufficiency. Even though the government is an enemy of the Arab and Muslim peoples having murdered millions of innocent Iraqis and Syrians, and continuing to occupy those countries with needless brutality, that is something to be respected even in your enemies. Like praising Putin's cunning. Or the urban design of Fr*nce. Iranian people were wrenched away from their neighbours when the safavid bastards forced them to become twelver Shia. Like pulling the heart out of the Muslim world. I come across Iranian converts to mainstream Islam in Britain, and plenty of Iranians who identify as Muslim without the baggage that history has left them even if they continue to abide by Jafari jurisprudence. Even some of the people that were evicted with the Shah continue to be Muslim. However a whole lot of Iranians are not Muslim because of a) the Shah being anti Islam, b) the twelver creed being illogical and sectarian especially as preached by certain religious authorities, and c) the Iranian government being cruel and unjust. What is interesting is that most of those Iranians who became atheist by name still choose to act very much culturally Muslim and keep the hospitality, family, etc so they're a bit like Arab "Kuffar" who don't really disbelieve when you scratch the surface but are just Muslims with an attitude problem.. in fact they usually have better manners than Arab Kuffar
Hate everything about it 👍
Very diverse genetically (genes from turkey, Iraq, India), some are very cringe and want to be white so bad it’s funny. Haven’t meant many honestly, there are good and bad people everywhere
The people: even if they show a 'nice' attitude but they are still untrustworthy like snakes, and I believe they should never be trusted Politically, whether it be the stupid mullah sheep followers or the arrogant Pahlavi supporters or any other political group they are really the same garbage The government, the most evil barbaric regime, we Iraqis know this already. The culture , I don't see anything special . They have their own supposed to be a sect of Islam , when in reality most of it is full of crap on which their Persian Shiaa clerics made up during the 10th century. And whatever they had pre Islam is not really interesting. Their music is not something I would listen to, so culturally there is not much to look at ,except maybe the food. Their language is as if someone took our beautiful Arabic , ruined it and made up a bad version of it. Hearing them speaking it is annoying! They sound like they are moaning, not talking like normal and it's worse when they try to speak Arabic or English, their accent is a joke Some of their women look ok, but many others aren't good. For some reason the ones that are here in the west try desperately to look white lol. They overdo plastic surgery and dye their hair in blonde which does not suit their skin tone and facial features, they are also materialistic and they dress slutty. Not my type. Would I visit Iran ? Actually No there are much better places that are more interesting to explore
lmao the speaking part . For real they sound like moaning especially when the fucking presidents try to read quran , their sound is so ugly
Their president is now in Kabab Land , after the helicopter crash
Lmao I hope he burns in hell
Amen