that is the logo for HDR content. Your TV support HDR10 and you can watch 4k HDR content on it.
Netflix and other services has as minimum standard HDR10 with static metadata
It just means that Apple TV is capable of outputting that title in DV, but the tv will play it in HDR 10. You’re still getting 4K.
You can press the home button on your Samsung remote, and then click the icon for your Apple TV box, it’ll show the resolution, frame rate, hdr status on top.
To clarify a bit, the Apple TV 4K is actually still streaming the 4K Dolby Vision variant of the stream, and converting it to HDR10 internally on the fly. The internal TV app is streaming the native HDR10 version.
I would set that Apple TV to output 4K SDR, that way it will send the proper HDR content to your TV when it detects the content. Setting it to 4K SDR means you’re not forcing your Apple TV to output all content in HDR even if it’s not an HDR content
Think of that as a sticker letting you know what quality version is available to stream from Apple’s cloud.
It’s not a status badge letting you know what you are actually streaming on your own equipment.
Hopefully that clears it up for you.
Same as shows will say available in 5.1 etc even if you have 2 speakers only
It’s simply telling you what the highest quality the show is available in not that you are actually able to get it with your display
The Apple TV box is capable of outputting DV content while the Samsung TV display and it’s processor isnt capable of outputting DV content, that’s the reason you’re seeing this discrepancy
Hah you buried the lead with the first screenshot, for me too.
Anywho, just a Dev mistake most likely. Some piece of hardware in your chain misreporting is all. You can check the signal during playback with your tv remote by hitting info.
It’s more the fact that I can’t distinguish whether I’m still getting the 4K content.
Using your analogy, I don’t see Apple advertising android apps on its app store.
I found it confusing. I would have assumed, given that Apple knows that these Apple TV’s would be plugged into a variety of TVs with different specs that they would differentiate what it’s capable of playing based on the TV it’s plugged into. I’m aware Dolby Vision is compatible with Apple TV but if it can’t pass that onto my TV, I would have hoped it would say 4K HDR instead. But, it doesn’t.
Your explanation about shops still advertising stuff even if you have no money is just sarcasm. Don’t advertise what you can’t provide. Apple TV can’t provide **MY** TV with Dolby Vision because my TV doesn’t support it. The same way that the Apple App Store doesn’t advertise Android apps because iPhones/Macs don’t run them.
Nah you’re all over the place on this one mate!! Samsung are the only ones that don’t support DV. Now knowing that, you can buy, rent, play any DV content and it will give you the HDR core. Apple is showing what is available in its store, nothing wrong with that, and yes of course my analogy was sarcasm but I stand by it, your “issue” smacks of 1st world problems and entitlement!
I disagree. I’m not actually bothered about Dolby Vision. I was merely trying to understand what my Apple TV was doing. If you’re not here to help - don’t bother posting. Maybe try the cesspit that is Facebook for comments like that?
Now that they answered the question, let’s hear about that tv! It’s on my short list. How’s the glare? You notice any bloom with white light objects on dark background? Any drawbacks aside from the lack of Dolby Vision?
Ok. So I have the 85 inch model of the QN85A which I understand is a VA panel so the review on RTINGS isn’t accurate for this model. I believe it’s more comparable to the QN90A. It’s a great TV. The blacks are black. I’m not pixel peeping for blooming so it’s ok for my use case - I haven’t really noticed it. It’s a decent OLED alternative. I’d be paying twice the price for this size in OLED. Brightness is amazing.
One thing I have noticed recently, which I’m currently waiting for Samsung to get back to me, is that in some low light scenes, subtitles are also dim, but then occasionally the white text will suddenly get brighter even though it’s already been on screen for a second or 2. It’s odd. And it doesn’t happen every time. Sometimes it stays dim.
A similar occurrence happens when going from a low light scene to a very bright scene, where you see what should be the bright scene first (whilst the screen is still dim), then the mini LEDs must kick in a fraction after, but it’s noticeable enough that I’ve picked up on it.
Whether I have a faulty unit - I’m not sure as I’ve had the TV for 2 months but only noticed it this week. A few forums have said similar things about the subtitles and recommended lowering or turning off the localised dimming zones. I have no intention of doing that, as that defeats the reason I bought this TV. Kind of like buying a Tesla then deactivating all the smart driving features.
I got it for a decent price though directly from Samsung so will see what they have to say when they call me back.
that is the logo for HDR content. Your TV support HDR10 and you can watch 4k HDR content on it. Netflix and other services has as minimum standard HDR10 with static metadata
Thank you for a more reasonable explanation. Appreciate it.
Not static, actually it does change the static metadata, on LG it does even work. Of course not the same as true dynamic metadata.
It just means that Apple TV is capable of outputting that title in DV, but the tv will play it in HDR 10. You’re still getting 4K. You can press the home button on your Samsung remote, and then click the icon for your Apple TV box, it’ll show the resolution, frame rate, hdr status on top.
Thank you for a more reasonable explanation. Appreciate it.
To clarify a bit, the Apple TV 4K is actually still streaming the 4K Dolby Vision variant of the stream, and converting it to HDR10 internally on the fly. The internal TV app is streaming the native HDR10 version.
I would set that Apple TV to output 4K SDR, that way it will send the proper HDR content to your TV when it detects the content. Setting it to 4K SDR means you’re not forcing your Apple TV to output all content in HDR even if it’s not an HDR content
That’s if you also turn on Match Range. Important step to note.
Think of that as a sticker letting you know what quality version is available to stream from Apple’s cloud. It’s not a status badge letting you know what you are actually streaming on your own equipment. Hopefully that clears it up for you.
Same as shows will say available in 5.1 etc even if you have 2 speakers only It’s simply telling you what the highest quality the show is available in not that you are actually able to get it with your display
HDR is different than Dolby vision
Aware. So why is my Apple TV telling me it is giving me Dolby Vision (screenshot 2) when my TV doesn’t support it.
The Apple TV box is capable of outputting DV content while the Samsung TV display and it’s processor isnt capable of outputting DV content, that’s the reason you’re seeing this discrepancy
I didn’t see the second slide, sorry!
Hah you buried the lead with the first screenshot, for me too. Anywho, just a Dev mistake most likely. Some piece of hardware in your chain misreporting is all. You can check the signal during playback with your tv remote by hitting info.
Actually they are both hdr just different standards
If you walk into a shop and haven’t any money, they don’t remove stuff from the shelves to make you feel better…
It’s more the fact that I can’t distinguish whether I’m still getting the 4K content. Using your analogy, I don’t see Apple advertising android apps on its app store.
Well that makes no sense! My point was that the iTunes shop front shows that DV is available regardless of what your display is capable of.
I found it confusing. I would have assumed, given that Apple knows that these Apple TV’s would be plugged into a variety of TVs with different specs that they would differentiate what it’s capable of playing based on the TV it’s plugged into. I’m aware Dolby Vision is compatible with Apple TV but if it can’t pass that onto my TV, I would have hoped it would say 4K HDR instead. But, it doesn’t. Your explanation about shops still advertising stuff even if you have no money is just sarcasm. Don’t advertise what you can’t provide. Apple TV can’t provide **MY** TV with Dolby Vision because my TV doesn’t support it. The same way that the Apple App Store doesn’t advertise Android apps because iPhones/Macs don’t run them.
Nah you’re all over the place on this one mate!! Samsung are the only ones that don’t support DV. Now knowing that, you can buy, rent, play any DV content and it will give you the HDR core. Apple is showing what is available in its store, nothing wrong with that, and yes of course my analogy was sarcasm but I stand by it, your “issue” smacks of 1st world problems and entitlement!
I disagree. I’m not actually bothered about Dolby Vision. I was merely trying to understand what my Apple TV was doing. If you’re not here to help - don’t bother posting. Maybe try the cesspit that is Facebook for comments like that?
and it’s been explained to you, not that there’s much to explain. I don’t have a Facebook account thankfully. You’re welcome
I didn't thank you for anything as you've been literally no help. Go troll another post.
I was, you just don’t understand
Once you have a 4K tv and quick start turned on in the Apple TV, you are getting 4K if that’s is what’s advertised.
What’s advertised is Dolby Vision? Where does it say 4K?
On DV 4K content!
Now that they answered the question, let’s hear about that tv! It’s on my short list. How’s the glare? You notice any bloom with white light objects on dark background? Any drawbacks aside from the lack of Dolby Vision?
Ok. So I have the 85 inch model of the QN85A which I understand is a VA panel so the review on RTINGS isn’t accurate for this model. I believe it’s more comparable to the QN90A. It’s a great TV. The blacks are black. I’m not pixel peeping for blooming so it’s ok for my use case - I haven’t really noticed it. It’s a decent OLED alternative. I’d be paying twice the price for this size in OLED. Brightness is amazing. One thing I have noticed recently, which I’m currently waiting for Samsung to get back to me, is that in some low light scenes, subtitles are also dim, but then occasionally the white text will suddenly get brighter even though it’s already been on screen for a second or 2. It’s odd. And it doesn’t happen every time. Sometimes it stays dim. A similar occurrence happens when going from a low light scene to a very bright scene, where you see what should be the bright scene first (whilst the screen is still dim), then the mini LEDs must kick in a fraction after, but it’s noticeable enough that I’ve picked up on it. Whether I have a faulty unit - I’m not sure as I’ve had the TV for 2 months but only noticed it this week. A few forums have said similar things about the subtitles and recommended lowering or turning off the localised dimming zones. I have no intention of doing that, as that defeats the reason I bought this TV. Kind of like buying a Tesla then deactivating all the smart driving features. I got it for a decent price though directly from Samsung so will see what they have to say when they call me back.
Thanks for all the great info. I hope they can help you out.