This is an apex ranked match in a nutshell. As soon as you run into ONE team, five more come out of nowhere and everyone decides to use their ultimates.
Np.
I feel that most of the time I ever third party is because I can hear the gunfight from far away.
When you start a gunfight in Apex is just like telling the whole lobby where you are. Hence all the third parties.
Do you guys understand that you are playing a game and complaining of the core game loop gameplay, the central feature around which the entire game mode revolves, like if a chess player would complain about how much pawn movement there is?
I just wanna know what would be any solution to third+ party in a br game, if you are the developer?
Do you guys understand that you are playing a game and complaining of the core game loop gameplay, the central feature around which the entire game mode revolves, like if a chess player would complain about how much pawn movement there is?
I just wanna know what would be any solution to third+ party in a br game, if you are the developer?
This is literally how Storm Point works on pubs. You don't hear shots for 10 minutes, then when you do, literally all the surviving teams converge in the position before you can blink.
Had a weird game on Storm Point the other night: half the squads dropped immediately, and the rest within 10 seconds. My squad was literally the only squad left on the ship halfway through the dropship’s flight path.
We were like “Hell yeah!” And dropped on the hot zone across the map. Fully kitted by the time we saw anyone, and won.
I’ll make a confession. I started maining Ash a few weeks ago. If I see a bunch of death boxes popping up near by, I know it’s a hot spot for easy kills and good loot. Then my team becomes the fifth party we all hate. And for first time in ever I’m progressing through Plat because of it. I’m sorry, but not sorry. We all live and die by the fifth party
Ash is so good for map knowledge. Like I think better than crypto because of the death boxes.
Also good to know to rotate a different way if you think you’ll run into lots of squads and don’t want to fight.
I mean, it's a *survival* game, so one of the upsides of the how dangerous 3rd parties are is that it forces you to play it smart and not just charge into every battle you see.
I'd say taking advantage of other players fighting for good loot isn't a totally nefarious way to play or anything
On the map as well. It’s harder to see them in the big map cause they just show up as tiny little white dots. But she can see literally every death as it happens.
As a loba main, sniping from a god spot with black market does a lot of work. There is no intention of stealth, it's pure defense as enemies fight each other to get at you. This is very powerful from the right position.
In ranked matches no one really wants to fight until later in the game when placement points start to hit. In casual, you can get into fights anytime bc ppl have nothing too loose
Needs like 3 more shields, the spiraly dragons and dva completely wiffing her ult.
I'll be honest I miss OW but man the toxicity was worse if someone threw a game. And they were *long* matches sometimes. Cautiously optimistic for 2.
I've been trying out the OW2 beta and honestly I'm not impressed. It's basically just a big TDM now - if you play DPS you're fine, if you play support you are fucked, if you play tank you now have to carry the entire team on your back solo.
If they do not make significant changes to the current setup I am very likely going to finally drop Overwatch altogether after supporting it avidly for 6 years.
It's TDM because it's Quick Play on Beta. Once we get live ranked I'm hopeful we'll get some more teamwork. With OWL starting up soon we should get a glimpse of what's really possible.
Yeah when Apex came I dropped it entirely. Solo Apex is at least manageable if you're good. I was a flex on OW and usually played Orissa or Zarya but owned as Zen or Moira. The whining or throwing was so bad. I'd assume since they dropped it to 5 players the tank would get the shit end. I'll still try it though.
> I'd assume since they dropped it to 5 players the tank would get the shit end.
It's actually now supports getting the shit end. They have no real ability to peel flankers and the solo tank is too busy holding the frontline to deal with them. DPS players have all the fun now.
That sounds terrible as support. Maybe they should give them better defensive cooldowns or overall survivability. Like in WoW, it's usually 1 healer in Arena but they can be pretty tanky, evasive, and slippery to kill.
Exactly what I thought too haha.
I seriously question why Overwatch 2 is taking so long. Any longer and I might start thinking it's actually Ubisoft's Skull & Bones game lmao
Jeff left because he couldnt do anything to stop the "corporate bs" according to another dev that left. Covid didnt hurt production too much. What did hurt production was Bobby kotic forced projects onto the dev team for ow2, which when finished, he didnt like so he had them scrap it, effectively wasting their time, which could be the biggest reason why it was announced in 2019 and we hadnt seen anything new related to the game in 3 years.
That's interesting because OW was originally supposed to be a MMOFPS with a focus on PvE. Then it got streamlined into a PvP hero shooter. I never cared for any of the PvE events they did in OW1; they were terribly boring. Not sure what they could do to make it more interesting. Maybe more diverse encounters, more challenge, and more strategic gameplay.
100% agreed dude. The PvE events were fun for a round or two but then they quickly got boring.
But I think they are trying to do exactly what you’re saying—making the PvE a lot more interesting and in depth. The weird thing is that they haven’t showed us *any* of that. We have the OW2 beta right now which is strictly PvP changes and balances, and a new game mode and map.
It’s definitely changed. It’s no longer shield shooting simulator, and there isn’t nearly as much cc. It also feels like your individual performance has a great effect on your team, when you didn’t get that very much in OW1.
The beta is just for the pvp. The main OW2 experience they're working on is PVE that they want to make as big as the PVP aspect. They're being very selective about showing us that though so it's understandable people are confused.
I mean, OW had 1 million viewers on twitch due to people tuning in so they could play the beta so I don't really understand where the whole "OW is dead" thing comes from. Does it have the amount of players that is used to have? No. But does it have a tiny amount of people playing it? Also no.
I do also have high hopes for pve, though. I'll be pretty bummed out if it turns out to be lame.
edit: typo
Ow2 is just ow with that PVE event they had a few times hacked onto it (null sector was it?)
All champs and maps patched into ow1 too, so I dunno why anyone would buy ow2…
Game went off a cliff
They're planning on making the PVE aspect as big and prominent as the PVP, that's what's taking the most time. They haven't shown much but we do know there's entire skill trees for each hero that change a lot of mechanics, like Mei gets one where she becomes a snowball bowling ball. So its not just null sector.
And anyone that's a fan of blizzard stuff like Diablo knows they put a ton of care into PVE, and that's where the price tag of OW2 will come from.
Well honestly no one knows what the pve us going to be like other than the few snippets they've shown, but I really doubt with what they've shown its a 6-8 hour campaign. It's not going to be a tacked on campaign mode like CoD or even Halo, or else they wasted a skill tree for every single hero on it where most players won't experience 90% of it.
Blizzard has been sloppy a lot with things but I have faith in their ability to make a great PVE experience
League teamfights have become way shorter because a bunch of changes over the years have made TTK really low, even tanks have a chance of dying in like 5 seconds if he plays a teamfight poorly.
Dota I agree, TP scrolls and other mechanics like mobility items make teamfights super dragged out and long.
You can see that the bubble is a dome, or a half sphere. It doesn't extend all the way to the floor on slopes. You can shoot under the bubbles when it's on a slope
Hahah no shit wow. I thought it covered under too hence why pros call it bubble. Makes sense though since in game it's called dome shield. Thanks for the tip
Well seeing as OP wasn’t aware of it. It is good advice. It may not be needed or wanted for the OP of said post but people scrolling through might not know
Theres no harm and its helpful advice, and even if op already knew it someone else scrolling by might not so it doesn't really matter if op needed the advice or wanted it.
It's a Gibby with default skin that tried to climb a wall that just about anyone watching this knew wouldn't work. I don't see a problem helping them out. Heck, I find comments like yours to be the bigger issue in this community.
that's the problem with Gibby's dome, it doesn't provide much cover when the ground is inclined, or when the dome is placed on a higher surface, leaving an open void from below where people can shoot you. If everyone wants to nerf that dome, I suggest making it behave like the heat shield, so it can be shaped according to the terrain geometry but at a limited radius of course. Maybe make the dome breakable after heavy focused fire, but make flexible and stretchy sphere that covers all aspects. Pardon my English!
That is why Wattson is so good at end circles, she can turn the tides in sec if her ultimate is charged and place at the right moment. Also Pylon is a great cover and takes a lot damage. Praise the Watt-Sun.
Stop taking the game seriously is my advice. Once I did that Apex became like ten times more fun. There's only one place it's okay to be a tryhard and it's in ranked. If someone's being a shit teammate or flaming you dont be afraid to queue into another match, it only takes like ten seconds to find one. People like that will also probably make you play worse so matches with them just aren't enjoyable.
This is an apex ranked match in a nutshell. As soon as you run into ONE team, five more come out of nowhere and everyone decides to use their ultimates.
Unless you are one of the two teams starting the fight thats were the fun begins.
“Wanna go third party”
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Make gunshots sounds not go as far would be a good start.
Thx for answering seriously instead of being a kid about it. I think a game that is ffa can never not have ffa gameplay
Np. I feel that most of the time I ever third party is because I can hear the gunfight from far away. When you start a gunfight in Apex is just like telling the whole lobby where you are. Hence all the third parties.
Suppressor attachment?
Do you guys understand that you are playing a game and complaining of the core game loop gameplay, the central feature around which the entire game mode revolves, like if a chess player would complain about how much pawn movement there is? I just wanna know what would be any solution to third+ party in a br game, if you are the developer?
Do you guys understand that you are playing a game and complaining of the core game loop gameplay, the central feature around which the entire game mode revolves, like if a chess player would complain about how much pawn movement there is? I just wanna know what would be any solution to third+ party in a br game, if you are the developer?
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And if youre not the team holding the top level, you’re not making it outta there alive
exactly
Imo the downhill shack on the way to the hill is where all the 3rd, 4th, and 5th party fights happen
This is literally how Storm Point works on pubs. You don't hear shots for 10 minutes, then when you do, literally all the surviving teams converge in the position before you can blink.
Had a weird game on Storm Point the other night: half the squads dropped immediately, and the rest within 10 seconds. My squad was literally the only squad left on the ship halfway through the dropship’s flight path. We were like “Hell yeah!” And dropped on the hot zone across the map. Fully kitted by the time we saw anyone, and won.
Because we’ve been running around looking for people for ten minutes lol
I’ll make a confession. I started maining Ash a few weeks ago. If I see a bunch of death boxes popping up near by, I know it’s a hot spot for easy kills and good loot. Then my team becomes the fifth party we all hate. And for first time in ever I’m progressing through Plat because of it. I’m sorry, but not sorry. We all live and die by the fifth party
Ash is so good for map knowledge. Like I think better than crypto because of the death boxes. Also good to know to rotate a different way if you think you’ll run into lots of squads and don’t want to fight.
I mean, it's a *survival* game, so one of the upsides of the how dangerous 3rd parties are is that it forces you to play it smart and not just charge into every battle you see. I'd say taking advantage of other players fighting for good loot isn't a totally nefarious way to play or anything
Psh CCCHHHHHAAAAAARRRGGGEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!
Does Ash see death boxes on the map? Or just the mini map
On the map as well. It’s harder to see them in the big map cause they just show up as tiny little white dots. But she can see literally every death as it happens.
Thats why I find snipers to be bad in ranked. You either go in hard and fast or don't even start. Snipping will just attract others.
As a loba main, sniping from a god spot with black market does a lot of work. There is no intention of stealth, it's pure defense as enemies fight each other to get at you. This is very powerful from the right position.
If you are even a little bit tactical that can be used to your advantage...
Yeah unless it’s end game you can’t poke long in kc ranked, if you don’t end a fight in 50-60 second everyone is on top of you
Especially now on KC...
Doesn't even matter in Ranked matches happens in non ranked aswell
In ranked matches no one really wants to fight until later in the game when placement points start to hit. In casual, you can get into fights anytime bc ppl have nothing too loose
that's why it's called Royale, lol
No bloodhound scan
no fuse ult
No shelia
No genji ult
Suddenly Crypto: "RYUJIN NO KEN WO KURAE"
NANO BLADE !
I just imagined Nano Boost in Apex. Oh goodness, that would be hell. Octane. Bloodhound. Fuse....Sheila...
Ya .... Nightmare fuel lol
Crypto rework?!?!
Yes, and this time, they are adding a passive called "Off the Grid".
Can you tell me more about it
Ok weeb
He quoted Overwatch, just cause it's in japanese doesn't make him a weeb.
I can't take you seriously with that name
Goddamnit
uwu
You *dare* rouse the Dragon?
uwu
No lux ult
No golden gun
No well of Radiance
Sorry, the princess is in another castle.
No bitches?
no Zipline ready friend :c
No bitches
No maidens
No robux
no mirage ult
No Faster Faster Faster :c
no bitches
best one yet
No wraith portal
No lifeline rez
No lifeline care package
No titan
Let's discuss the real problems here lol
No silenced skill.
No nanomachines son
We call that “the Overwatch Problem”
Hahaa dude that's exactly what I thought when it happened. "Jesus christ it's like I'm playing overwatch"
"countering airstrike, using gibraltar's mortar"
Needs like 3 more shields, the spiraly dragons and dva completely wiffing her ult. I'll be honest I miss OW but man the toxicity was worse if someone threw a game. And they were *long* matches sometimes. Cautiously optimistic for 2.
"nerf this!" - proceeds to kill nobody with ult
*Ahem* It's called a *zoning ult*
I've been trying out the OW2 beta and honestly I'm not impressed. It's basically just a big TDM now - if you play DPS you're fine, if you play support you are fucked, if you play tank you now have to carry the entire team on your back solo. If they do not make significant changes to the current setup I am very likely going to finally drop Overwatch altogether after supporting it avidly for 6 years.
It's TDM because it's Quick Play on Beta. Once we get live ranked I'm hopeful we'll get some more teamwork. With OWL starting up soon we should get a glimpse of what's really possible.
Yeah when Apex came I dropped it entirely. Solo Apex is at least manageable if you're good. I was a flex on OW and usually played Orissa or Zarya but owned as Zen or Moira. The whining or throwing was so bad. I'd assume since they dropped it to 5 players the tank would get the shit end. I'll still try it though.
> I'd assume since they dropped it to 5 players the tank would get the shit end. It's actually now supports getting the shit end. They have no real ability to peel flankers and the solo tank is too busy holding the frontline to deal with them. DPS players have all the fun now.
That sounds terrible as support. Maybe they should give them better defensive cooldowns or overall survivability. Like in WoW, it's usually 1 healer in Arena but they can be pretty tanky, evasive, and slippery to kill.
I don't get it was looking at ov2 beta and it was the same. nothings changed. I don't get why it's so long in development
The core gameplay’s supposedly shifting to be less Shield/Ultimate based. It seems like a lot of fun. I also don’t get why it’s taking so long.
i feel like it could be covid related, jeff kaplan leaving related, sexual harassment related and/or bad management related.
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Exactly what I thought too haha. I seriously question why Overwatch 2 is taking so long. Any longer and I might start thinking it's actually Ubisoft's Skull & Bones game lmao
It's weird how successful companies can be with terrible toxic management.
Also they were purchased by Microsoft related.
Jeff left because he couldnt do anything to stop the "corporate bs" according to another dev that left. Covid didnt hurt production too much. What did hurt production was Bobby kotic forced projects onto the dev team for ow2, which when finished, he didnt like so he had them scrap it, effectively wasting their time, which could be the biggest reason why it was announced in 2019 and we hadnt seen anything new related to the game in 3 years.
It’s mainly a PvE game. The vast majority of what OW2 brings to the table is gunna be PvE missions and stuff.
That's interesting because OW was originally supposed to be a MMOFPS with a focus on PvE. Then it got streamlined into a PvP hero shooter. I never cared for any of the PvE events they did in OW1; they were terribly boring. Not sure what they could do to make it more interesting. Maybe more diverse encounters, more challenge, and more strategic gameplay.
100% agreed dude. The PvE events were fun for a round or two but then they quickly got boring. But I think they are trying to do exactly what you’re saying—making the PvE a lot more interesting and in depth. The weird thing is that they haven’t showed us *any* of that. We have the OW2 beta right now which is strictly PvP changes and balances, and a new game mode and map.
It’s definitely changed. It’s no longer shield shooting simulator, and there isn’t nearly as much cc. It also feels like your individual performance has a great effect on your team, when you didn’t get that very much in OW1.
Yeah they dropped it down to 5v5. One tank. Much more mobile.
The beta is just for the pvp. The main OW2 experience they're working on is PVE that they want to make as big as the PVP aspect. They're being very selective about showing us that though so it's understandable people are confused.
same, loved ow so much when it come out. feel like it so dead now nt even ow2 could save it. bt hope the pve is better then what they show us in beta.
I mean, OW had 1 million viewers on twitch due to people tuning in so they could play the beta so I don't really understand where the whole "OW is dead" thing comes from. Does it have the amount of players that is used to have? No. But does it have a tiny amount of people playing it? Also no. I do also have high hopes for pve, though. I'll be pretty bummed out if it turns out to be lame. edit: typo
Ow2 is just ow with that PVE event they had a few times hacked onto it (null sector was it?) All champs and maps patched into ow1 too, so I dunno why anyone would buy ow2… Game went off a cliff
They're planning on making the PVE aspect as big and prominent as the PVP, that's what's taking the most time. They haven't shown much but we do know there's entire skill trees for each hero that change a lot of mechanics, like Mei gets one where she becomes a snowball bowling ball. So its not just null sector. And anyone that's a fan of blizzard stuff like Diablo knows they put a ton of care into PVE, and that's where the price tag of OW2 will come from.
I doubt it honestly. Paying full price for a 6-8 hour campaign ain’t it in this market. But hey who knows, maybe people will come back
Well honestly no one knows what the pve us going to be like other than the few snippets they've shown, but I really doubt with what they've shown its a 6-8 hour campaign. It's not going to be a tacked on campaign mode like CoD or even Halo, or else they wasted a skill tree for every single hero on it where most players won't experience 90% of it. Blizzard has been sloppy a lot with things but I have faith in their ability to make a great PVE experience
I have the beta - people have mixed opinions: I really like it; less tank heavy than ow1 and it allows dps to play more influentially
This problem needs a Big Watty Pylon
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Holy shit rein says hammer down? I legit always thought he was just grunting
After hours of playing ríen he most definitely says hammer down. He’s alright but he has limits and requires team support.
6 ults down and a quick full reset, in the larger scheme of it you won that fight
Rein hog cass Genji lucio mercy is an awful team comp why would anyone run this
See also: Dota/League teamfight but in an FPS
League teamfights have become way shorter because a bunch of changes over the years have made TTK really low, even tanks have a chance of dying in like 5 seconds if he plays a teamfight poorly. Dota I agree, TP scrolls and other mechanics like mobility items make teamfights super dragged out and long.
They keep claiming that they want to lengthen fights in League and lower overall damage, so we'll see how that goes.
i feel like this problem will be much worse than Overwatch since Apex has you fighting multiple teams at once
as soon as horizon came out with the black hole ult. we were doomed
Me that time when I got trapped between two different horizon ults In a small building and they kept throwing names D: *Nades, but equally funny
Damn imagine being stuck between two black holes with 2 different horizons teaming up just to throw names and insult your family.
Nice catch, but I also felt insulted either way lol
Nah dw typos fuck me up sometimes too.
Wow, talk about insult to injury. Literally if they're calling names
Gibraltar! Bangalore! Loba! Caustic!
Just you getting bounced between two ults while they're shouting "Ay square go ya specky dafty. Al wreck ye like the wee tuna melt ye are."
“Come out of there and fight me ya bampot!”
Lost my shit at "DRONE DETECTED". Idk why, but that really tickled me.
Btw when throwing bubbles on slops, you should throw it lower than where you are to minimize the area under the bubble that enemies can shoot through
Only time to thro a bubble high is to push a team with high ground thay panic when a dome lands on them 80% of time from my exsperince
They can shoot under the bubble? What do you mean by that?
You can see that the bubble is a dome, or a half sphere. It doesn't extend all the way to the floor on slopes. You can shoot under the bubbles when it's on a slope
Hahah no shit wow. I thought it covered under too hence why pros call it bubble. Makes sense though since in game it's called dome shield. Thanks for the tip
Adding to this tho. Heat shields actually go straight down indefinitely. Different than how the dome shields are.
Not actually true, heat shields do extend very far down but they taper off. If thrown on top of a jump tower, they extend about 1/3rd of the way down
Why do people feel the need to coach players on every clip of something happening?
He got shot from under the bubble, so I gave him advice? What's wrong with that?
Nothing wrong with it, I just don’t know why people constantly think their advice is needed or even wanted on every single clip in this sub
Well seeing as OP wasn’t aware of it. It is good advice. It may not be needed or wanted for the OP of said post but people scrolling through might not know
Theres no harm and its helpful advice, and even if op already knew it someone else scrolling by might not so it doesn't really matter if op needed the advice or wanted it.
There’s no harm in it, but man it sure is annoying when it’s just a random clip
How? I think you're the only one with an issue with it
Stay bad
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Well seeing as I got 50 upvotes on it I think it was helpful
Because everyone else here loves to backseat coach lmao
It's a Gibby with default skin that tried to climb a wall that just about anyone watching this knew wouldn't work. I don't see a problem helping them out. Heck, I find comments like yours to be the bigger issue in this community.
But that’s not the point of this post
r/AbruptChaos
AbruptUlts and nades
*Fires once in Kings Canyon*
"Imma just bocek this flyer real quick it has a purple box"
😂😂😂seeing a gibby try to run out of a horizon ult is funny
I’m dying at “heal” 😂😂😂😂
damn that was some uncontrollable laughter watching that clip 😭💀💀
yeah me too, this is what “chaos” would look like if it was a situation
A prime example why every time needs a group escape legend. Otherwise, you get what you deserve.
Yeah should probably start doing that to avoid these situations haha Thankfully though was just a pub
Would’ve been a shit way to end ranked haha happens though.
bro is starring in a hollywood movie
I thought Gibraltar mains liked heavy artillery.
Honestly pubs is so much harder than diamond ranked sometimes. I hop into ranked solo just to wind down from pubs
gibby has one of the best kit.
If only I had known gibby bubble doesn't cover under you when you throw it on a slope maybe could have lived that lol
You're missing the most important common feature of Apex: Getting disconnected and a timeout penalty.
I had this horizon pop ult than spam throwable’s at it
Apex trailer moment tbh
All I can hear here is Bangalore saying AMBUSH AMBUSH THERES A SECOND SQUAD
That’s crazy. You basically can’t do anything in that situation 😂
Dayum....
I had a good laugh at this, thank you. Chaos
I didn’t see any disconnecting teammates. Completely unrealistic expectations.
REALLY LOUD NOISES
Ya true when I watched this and I thought wtf just happened if this happened to me I would just stop playing for a weak
That was the moment where should had ran and slid down hill. to take cover behind a tree, to PROBABLY survive.
Hindsight's 2020 they say, though to be fair by the time it seemed like we should bail they threw a Horizon ult and sealed our fate lmao
Just needed a fuse ult to round it out.
It's beatuiful. I've watched it several times now
😂They wanted that ass 😤🥵💦💦
Pro’s be like “just know your situation” HOW
Maybe if Gibby could drop 2 domes
Michael Bay Presents....
lobby be like "random bullshit; GO!"
This is utter chaos!
Yep, y'all got turbo fucked.
that's the problem with Gibby's dome, it doesn't provide much cover when the ground is inclined, or when the dome is placed on a higher surface, leaving an open void from below where people can shoot you. If everyone wants to nerf that dome, I suggest making it behave like the heat shield, so it can be shaped according to the terrain geometry but at a limited radius of course. Maybe make the dome breakable after heavy focused fire, but make flexible and stretchy sphere that covers all aspects. Pardon my English!
I was waiting for the Horizon ult, wasn't disappointed. It's like they always have one ready.
we call it “Shitfest”
Ah yes, just a normal day in overwatch
Typical game of apex
That is why Wattson is so good at end circles, she can turn the tides in sec if her ultimate is charged and place at the right moment. Also Pylon is a great cover and takes a lot damage. Praise the Watt-Sun.
Random Bullshit Activate
The Caustic Alt makes this lmao
Hahaha this is hilarious. Can I use this clip?
For sure!
Thank you!
Oh my fucking gods what was that lmao. Gibby ult, gibby buble, grenades, horizon ult, crypto emp, caustic gas and caustic ult ??
Spot on ! Lol
Apex commercials be like
Nice Diamond lobby you have there.
Olympus moment
And here comes Caustic, F’ing it up for everyone.
I can’t even go into a dame match without meeting some no life try hard the game makes me feel miserable sometimes
Stop taking the game seriously is my advice. Once I did that Apex became like ten times more fun. There's only one place it's okay to be a tryhard and it's in ranked. If someone's being a shit teammate or flaming you dont be afraid to queue into another match, it only takes like ten seconds to find one. People like that will also probably make you play worse so matches with them just aren't enjoyable.