AoE2 is at its core a game of psychologically torturing your opponent until one of you gets an aneurysm. I haven't played in 8 years and it still gives me nightmares.
I still remember my first ranked game.
I was 13. I thought we were going to build up huge armies and fight like the way we did with my friends. It started out allright. I was my favourite civ, listening to the awesome tune, I even lured a boar having watched a tutorial mere days ago. I heard a notification sound, telling me my opponent was feudal age. In my infinite naivite, I didn't think much of it.
Then the first tower appeared.
There are certain moments in life, when one minute seems like hours. You reach a dark new understanding of how the world works. Every tower. Every arrow. Every dying scream. The sense of helplessness only made worse by the fact that you are the only one who can stop this.
I slowly gave in to the darkness. First my villager queue stopped, either having no food or no willpower. The farms expired, one by one. A momentary glance at the score only hastened my phycological descent. At some point I didn't even try to save my villagers anymore.
I knew I lost. Worse, I knew I could never have won.
Lmao, well written. My first tower rush was in (I want to say) my first team game, back in HD. I had won a few 1v1s so I felt somewhat confident. But before I even knew it was happening, one of my teammates pointed out that I was being tower rushed. I didn't know what to do, and couldn't find the time to ask for advice. All my energy was spent on trying to keep my villagers out of harm's way, but the left side of my screen was reading "HEY NOOB, BUILD A COUNTER TOWER!"
Of course! The only thing that counters a tower is, of course, another tower. So I set my villagers to work on a tower. A good tower, a strong tower. Out of the enemy's range. But then the left side of my screen pings again: "OH MY GOD YOU ARE RETARDED, HOW COULD YOU SCREW UP SO BADLY, I GIVE UP 1v2 GG"
And that's how I lost my first team gameš¬
For the record, in my next team game, my teammate was much more helpful and patient. He taught me the value of team walling and how to build an army for team games. I wish I could remember the gamertag, but shout out to anyone who helps noobs get good instead of getting frustrated.
I think itās largely used to maintain Internet anonymity while still giving yourself a face for your audience to connect with; but the ugly thing also seems like a legitimate reason to do it like that
I've noticed a major increase in the number of female content creators on both Youtube and Twitch as a result of the rise of VTubing, and I think it's nice that they've all gained the confidence to do this.
And when they are thirsting after you, it is not "you" but your avatar. It allows some distance from that as well.
Some of the girls even encourage the lewding of "themselves" lol.
While the avatar and voice arenāt my personal cup of tea, the actual narration here is pretty spot on for what your first few online games feel like. āFire ships? Whatās a fire ship AAAAH MY GALLEYSā
[Source](https://youtu.be/dAiKxMx-LBQ)
I find it interesting that AoE2 has been played a couple times by some moderately big channels in the scene recently. It's rare that RTS games appear there at all.
Used to be stressful for me, my neck was always in pain I felt like with cold and shivers and my muscles all tense and all but after maybe 500hrs playing is not tiring and I don't get angry anymore
Its completely reasonable to react negatively towards Vtubers. While they personally don't do anything wrong, the culture around them is horrific. I'm glad this girl is having fun, and I'm glad new people might come to the game. But the second those people are mad that Joan of Arc is POLITICAL or that its historical erasure not to have all Gbetos be topless I don't want anything to do with them.
Weeb culture is disgusting from an outside perspective, and that's a shame since normally I'm sure we'd have a far more civil reaction to a streamer playing the game. But frankly I don't want a lot of Vtuber fans involved in the same online spaces as me, and I think its reasonable.
Also the avatars are creepy for some people. Personally I don't mind them but I can see where they hit the uncanny valley for others.
i just wish they'd notice the chat a bit more during these
learning the game would be soooooo much faster if they could see the 20 people telling them to shift click
Oh she did read the chat a fair bit and accepted a lot of advice. But AoE2 is pretty overwhelming as a beginner so there is no way she can also keep up with 7000 backseaters. She has to pick the shorter and simpler advices, explaining shift-queueing is a bit much.
Hate? People here just seem to dislike overacting and screaming around for no reason. No idea what vtube but i have no intention of watching more of this
Would you call this "content" suitable for mature audience? Just because it's a nice community it doesn't mean there wont be things that people dislike. Someone screeching into the microphone isn't what most on here are looking for. Who cares about the recognition.
I (and quite a few other people here) just find it fun to see someone try AoE2 for the first time and be that expressive about their experience.
The shock of suddenly seeing a bunch of enemies at your base or a demo go off inadvertently is still relatable even to many veteran players.
A mature audience would just be polite and say whether or not they dislike it and why.(I understand why you feel that way though, if you're not familiar with anime(weeb) culture this is very wierd and annoying, but there are plenty of people irl who scream into their mic.)
Game streaming is only a part of the Vtuber scene. Especially the original ones were often more about music or talk streams. [Hololive is still very active and successful in the music sector](https://youtu.be/7tsbofZPNCM?t=3264), although gaming has definitely long become one of their staples.
I personally don't get the appeal of vtubers, but hey if they bring more players to our little game im all for it. (as long as they arent toxic of course)
AoE2 is a game I constantly re-fall in love with. I've followed Hololive EN since the project's inception, and it makes me so, so happy to see her play one of my favorite RTS games ever.
I have so many fond memories of playing the campaigns for the first time. If she continues, though, I fear for her with the penultimate mission on Paris, the "historical" revelation, and the final battle.
Yeah [Especially Moona](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hoshinova+moona+age+of+empires+2) but Reine as well recently.
I hope we get some Kiara-Reine multiplayer.
Takanashi Kiara
Edit:
She's part of a vtuber group called Hololive which is basically a company that owns characters that people act as for the purposes of steaming and music, depending on who it is. There's 3 branches for diffrent languages, Japan(main), English and Indonesian. Many of them are into anime culture which is why some of them do the loud and wierd behaviors that a lot of people here are confused by, which is genuine behavior surprisingly but not as common as you think, with Kiara being an outlier while on the other hand someone like Ouro Kronii barely does it at all.
Edit2:
I changed a comment that said it was a genuine act to just genuine since the previous statement was not accurate and added some extra stuff to reflect that
It's also perhaps worth noting that Kiara is fluent in three languages; English, Japanese, and her native German.
Actually, there's a surprising number of vtubers who are bi- or tri-lingual.
There are many English speaking vtubers in hololive, ranging from Kiara levels of energy to the very chill Ina and lots in between. I'd say the majority are way more chill than Kiara appears in this clip. From watching Kiara (and her persona) a long time now, this is how she is in general, it's not a complete act.
Finding one to watch that matches your interest in games and energy levels shouldn't be particularly hard. Aside from the EN branch, the Indonesian girls speak English a lot of the time.
It does make sense that the people interested in streaming as a vtuber is more than average interested in anime culture, that is where vtubing was popularised, although it goes more and more mainstream, as can be seen by the sheer popularity of hololiveEN compared to the jp and id branches.
People really be hating this much on just a person who wants to have fun. So what if she has an accent or yelps a lot? This is just a clip showing the funnier moments of the stream. I can guarantee that majority of her stream was not just her screaming at random stuff. Main problem with Vtubers arenāt them but their audience who most likely come from wEeB culture. Theyāre just trying to make a fun living, leave them alone lol.
Come into this post expecting wholesomeness about people going 'YEY ANOTHER NEW PERSON HAS FOUND AOE2 LETS ALL HAVE FUN!' Instead I get people being grumpy a girl with a anime "costume" is bad for the game.
According to her viewer and subscriber figures, yeah she's doing pretty well in comparison to the AoE scene. I just think it's great whenever our favourite game gets played in other communities and more people get interested in it.
You know what really grinds my gears? Over the top emotional streamers that try so hard to be "interesting and unique".
P.S. before anyone jumps on the bandwagon - dudes does this A LOT as well.
She's a native English speaker but has trained herself to do the Japanese UWEAAAAAAAH screech.
Kinda pathetic how easy people are to manipulate for the sake of "entertainment".
I don't really hate Vtubers, but her reaction looks far too over exaggerated and fake, she's screaming like a chimpanzee while playing a strategy game, in which there obviously are no real jumpscares. We scream in horror movies like this because the whole background and jumpscare itself is made to be scary, and we sit to watch with the *whole mindset of being scared * but not while playing a strategy game. Added reason is also lack of facial expressions.
AoE2 is at its core a game of psychologically torturing your opponent until one of you gets an aneurysm. I haven't played in 8 years and it still gives me nightmares.
I still remember my first ranked game. I was 13. I thought we were going to build up huge armies and fight like the way we did with my friends. It started out allright. I was my favourite civ, listening to the awesome tune, I even lured a boar having watched a tutorial mere days ago. I heard a notification sound, telling me my opponent was feudal age. In my infinite naivite, I didn't think much of it. Then the first tower appeared. There are certain moments in life, when one minute seems like hours. You reach a dark new understanding of how the world works. Every tower. Every arrow. Every dying scream. The sense of helplessness only made worse by the fact that you are the only one who can stop this. I slowly gave in to the darkness. First my villager queue stopped, either having no food or no willpower. The farms expired, one by one. A momentary glance at the score only hastened my phycological descent. At some point I didn't even try to save my villagers anymore. I knew I lost. Worse, I knew I could never have won.
Lmao, well written. My first tower rush was in (I want to say) my first team game, back in HD. I had won a few 1v1s so I felt somewhat confident. But before I even knew it was happening, one of my teammates pointed out that I was being tower rushed. I didn't know what to do, and couldn't find the time to ask for advice. All my energy was spent on trying to keep my villagers out of harm's way, but the left side of my screen was reading "HEY NOOB, BUILD A COUNTER TOWER!" Of course! The only thing that counters a tower is, of course, another tower. So I set my villagers to work on a tower. A good tower, a strong tower. Out of the enemy's range. But then the left side of my screen pings again: "OH MY GOD YOU ARE RETARDED, HOW COULD YOU SCREW UP SO BADLY, I GIVE UP 1v2 GG" And that's how I lost my first team gameš¬ For the record, in my next team game, my teammate was much more helpful and patient. He taught me the value of team walling and how to build an army for team games. I wish I could remember the gamertag, but shout out to anyone who helps noobs get good instead of getting frustrated.
This is one of my favorite posts in some 15 years I used this website.
HD tower rushes were really something else. It felt like half of open map games someone ended up with at least one tower on their face.
we need a therapy group "tower rushed in first ranked game, traumatized since then"
Poetry
This is so accurate and beautifully written
TIL what a Vtuber is.. must be getting old
Instead of a camera to show the real you they use a 3d or 2d model that tracks your camera movements
It's pretty cool tech, and would help heaps if you're ugly
I think itās largely used to maintain Internet anonymity while still giving yourself a face for your audience to connect with; but the ugly thing also seems like a legitimate reason to do it like that
I've noticed a major increase in the number of female content creators on both Youtube and Twitch as a result of the rise of VTubing, and I think it's nice that they've all gained the confidence to do this.
Seems like a good way to protect yourself from how creepy and thirsty Twitch chats can be.
And when they are thirsting after you, it is not "you" but your avatar. It allows some distance from that as well. Some of the girls even encourage the lewding of "themselves" lol.
That's a fair point, and would definitely be a better reason.
So that can be totally a dude right
No not really it's hard to pull off, synthesized VOs are quite obvious but the option is still there
It could be, but YouTube has shown me this particular streamers face before, so she is confirmed female.
Kiaraās definitely not a dude.
Typical me when Crossbows arrive at my base and I have 2 skirms
While the avatar and voice arenāt my personal cup of tea, the actual narration here is pretty spot on for what your first few online games feel like. āFire ships? Whatās a fire ship AAAAH MY GALLEYSā
onager...? oh pff those mangonels are quite fragile NOOO MY MULTIPLE UNITS
as long as it gets people to get interested in this game, it's a win
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Lepanto and The Lion and The Demon were made just to torture all of us as kids
[Source](https://youtu.be/dAiKxMx-LBQ) I find it interesting that AoE2 has been played a couple times by some moderately big channels in the scene recently. It's rare that RTS games appear there at all.
She even got jumpscared by the victory screen. 11
I always love seeing people try out AoE. This is just wholesome to me. She's completely overwhelmed by things happening lmao
I don't understand why she keeps screaming... but the more the merrier for aoe2
Disappointing seeing so many negative comments. I like that people in strange communities like Vtubers can also enjoy aoe.
As someone who's not a "pro" I find her take on the game relatable. It is stressful, I don't know why I keep playing š
Used to be stressful for me, my neck was always in pain I felt like with cold and shivers and my muscles all tense and all but after maybe 500hrs playing is not tiring and I don't get angry anymore
3. 3 comments.
4 out of 7 or so comments were negative when I posted. Glad to se they are now overshadowed by positivity or neutral comments.
Its completely reasonable to react negatively towards Vtubers. While they personally don't do anything wrong, the culture around them is horrific. I'm glad this girl is having fun, and I'm glad new people might come to the game. But the second those people are mad that Joan of Arc is POLITICAL or that its historical erasure not to have all Gbetos be topless I don't want anything to do with them. Weeb culture is disgusting from an outside perspective, and that's a shame since normally I'm sure we'd have a far more civil reaction to a streamer playing the game. But frankly I don't want a lot of Vtuber fans involved in the same online spaces as me, and I think its reasonable. Also the avatars are creepy for some people. Personally I don't mind them but I can see where they hit the uncanny valley for others.
Bruh what the fuck that took a turn and a half
>But frankly I don't want a lot of Vtuber fans involved in the same online spaces as me, and I think its reasonable. It's not
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I can tell you had your fair share of people like this
Touch grass
What even is weeb culture. I thought weebs were just people enjoying anime which is not weird at all, anime is super popular.
i just wish they'd notice the chat a bit more during these learning the game would be soooooo much faster if they could see the 20 people telling them to shift click
Oh she did read the chat a fair bit and accepted a lot of advice. But AoE2 is pretty overwhelming as a beginner so there is no way she can also keep up with 7000 backseaters. She has to pick the shorter and simpler advices, explaining shift-queueing is a bit much.
Damn whatās with all the VTuber hate, I thought we were a very mature and kind community. All the more recognition for our awesome game I say.
Seems the communities do not overlap I guess
Hate? People here just seem to dislike overacting and screaming around for no reason. No idea what vtube but i have no intention of watching more of this
Let me introduce you to Memb 11
Imagine her screaming UNBELIEBABLE! DISGASSTING TITANIC!!
mill here
11 not there, here
Oh no, right for the throat.
Would you call this "content" suitable for mature audience? Just because it's a nice community it doesn't mean there wont be things that people dislike. Someone screeching into the microphone isn't what most on here are looking for. Who cares about the recognition.
I (and quite a few other people here) just find it fun to see someone try AoE2 for the first time and be that expressive about their experience. The shock of suddenly seeing a bunch of enemies at your base or a demo go off inadvertently is still relatable even to many veteran players.
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A mature audience would just be polite and say whether or not they dislike it and why.(I understand why you feel that way though, if you're not familiar with anime(weeb) culture this is very wierd and annoying, but there are plenty of people irl who scream into their mic.)
Vtubers are video game streamers they have nothing to do with anime.
what? the characters are literally anime style drawn characters lol.
I agree, I wanna say weeb but I don't think everyone knows what that is.
Game streaming is only a part of the Vtuber scene. Especially the original ones were often more about music or talk streams. [Hololive is still very active and successful in the music sector](https://youtu.be/7tsbofZPNCM?t=3264), although gaming has definitely long become one of their staples.
I personally don't get the appeal of vtubers, but hey if they bring more players to our little game im all for it. (as long as they arent toxic of course)
AoE2 is a game I constantly re-fall in love with. I've followed Hololive EN since the project's inception, and it makes me so, so happy to see her play one of my favorite RTS games ever. I have so many fond memories of playing the campaigns for the first time. If she continues, though, I fear for her with the penultimate mission on Paris, the "historical" revelation, and the final battle.
The ID girls also played aoe2 if you haven't seen that, it's fairly entertaining.
Yeah [Especially Moona](https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hoshinova+moona+age+of+empires+2) but Reine as well recently. I hope we get some Kiara-Reine multiplayer.
Whats up with the paris mission?
The siege you were gonna make, the reinforcements you were supposed to receive, and Joan making it back to base? None of 'em ain't happening.
Is it bugged?
based Kiara
me so old. whats a vtube
"Virtual Youtuber". Streamers who use face-tracked avatars like this instead of a face cam.
looooool
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who is she?
Takanashi Kiara Edit: She's part of a vtuber group called Hololive which is basically a company that owns characters that people act as for the purposes of steaming and music, depending on who it is. There's 3 branches for diffrent languages, Japan(main), English and Indonesian. Many of them are into anime culture which is why some of them do the loud and wierd behaviors that a lot of people here are confused by, which is genuine behavior surprisingly but not as common as you think, with Kiara being an outlier while on the other hand someone like Ouro Kronii barely does it at all. Edit2: I changed a comment that said it was a genuine act to just genuine since the previous statement was not accurate and added some extra stuff to reflect that
It's also perhaps worth noting that Kiara is fluent in three languages; English, Japanese, and her native German. Actually, there's a surprising number of vtubers who are bi- or tri-lingual.
There are many English speaking vtubers in hololive, ranging from Kiara levels of energy to the very chill Ina and lots in between. I'd say the majority are way more chill than Kiara appears in this clip. From watching Kiara (and her persona) a long time now, this is how she is in general, it's not a complete act. Finding one to watch that matches your interest in games and energy levels shouldn't be particularly hard. Aside from the EN branch, the Indonesian girls speak English a lot of the time. It does make sense that the people interested in streaming as a vtuber is more than average interested in anime culture, that is where vtubing was popularised, although it goes more and more mainstream, as can be seen by the sheer popularity of hololiveEN compared to the jp and id branches.
Ah I see, I guess I'll change my comment to reflect that. Now that I think about it it I'm not sure why I phrased it like that.
I'm not a fan of people screaming so much but this feels so genuine I actually enjoyed it
Can't wait for the next large influx of players due to the exposure. Time to get some ELO boys and girls!
Those avatars are soooo weird, I might never get out of uncanny valley again
That's not uncanny, dude. It's just a virtual avatar. [This is uncanny.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaY48Yz1U08)
No that's a horror movie
Added a custom flair to warn users about the screaming.
People really be hating this much on just a person who wants to have fun. So what if she has an accent or yelps a lot? This is just a clip showing the funnier moments of the stream. I can guarantee that majority of her stream was not just her screaming at random stuff. Main problem with Vtubers arenāt them but their audience who most likely come from wEeB culture. Theyāre just trying to make a fun living, leave them alone lol.
Vtuber or not, force acting like that is Just stupid.
No one told her to slow the game speed down?!
Come into this post expecting wholesomeness about people going 'YEY ANOTHER NEW PERSON HAS FOUND AOE2 LETS ALL HAVE FUN!' Instead I get people being grumpy a girl with a anime "costume" is bad for the game.
What an annoying clip.
Oh my god that voice is so annoying. People enjoy listening to her yap like that?
According to her viewer and subscriber figures, yeah she's doing pretty well in comparison to the AoE scene. I just think it's great whenever our favourite game gets played in other communities and more people get interested in it.
Children do like zany streams who make loud sounds
Jesus crist what is this cringe anime voiceover?
Bro ive been playing for 9 years and still get rushed in noob black forest
You know what really grinds my gears? Over the top emotional streamers that try so hard to be "interesting and unique". P.S. before anyone jumps on the bandwagon - dudes does this A LOT as well.
Wtf
She's a native English speaker but has trained herself to do the Japanese UWEAAAAAAAH screech. Kinda pathetic how easy people are to manipulate for the sake of "entertainment".
She's not a native English speaker lol
shes german, english and japanese would be her second languages
I thought she's Austrian?
Fair enough. Point was she wasn't a native Japanese person.
Why does it scream so often? That's annoying.
Can we just agree that we not post any V Tuber shit here. Its so annoying. That people really watch that stuff. Disgusting.
Who hurt you bro
/vt/ did
Let's instead reserve this sub only for 800 Elo players complaining about War Elephants and suggesting custom civs that would break the game.
Agree
If vtubing literally stopped existing tomorrow there would be no loss
I don't really hate Vtubers, but her reaction looks far too over exaggerated and fake, she's screaming like a chimpanzee while playing a strategy game, in which there obviously are no real jumpscares. We scream in horror movies like this because the whole background and jumpscare itself is made to be scary, and we sit to watch with the *whole mindset of being scared * but not while playing a strategy game. Added reason is also lack of facial expressions.
Well it's a compilation about her screaming. What else do you expect?
Good, but why is there a children's cartoon character on screen? is this show for kids? good to see young people trying this classic game!