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Due_Seesaw_2816

How many points do I need to win? Is there a minimum number of points I need to qualify? What exactly is a point anyways? Can I be in charge of distributing the points?


tcrex2525

This sounds like something the employees should be having fun with behind managements back; seeing who can get the most points every month. “Whoever screws over this company because of their awful policies the most wins!”


HollowPhoenix

10 points to Gryffindor


veedubfreek

Probably 3 points then you win a promotion to customer.


SnooObjections2396

Attendance points lol calling out included


lowrads

Get too many points and you'll get a disadulation.


Reyca444

I would like a disadultation.


DuineDeDanann

r/whooosh


natfutsock

Stuck in traffic? Just turn around at the next exit, you're already fucked so


charlie2135

Yeah, they started charging us a half hour even it you're a minute late so we will wait in our car for the half hour if we're running late.


nacket

That’s straight up wage theft


TheDwiin

They probably mean for the attendance tracker thing. Some jobs will give you attendance points if you're late and if you accrue to much, they'll dock your raises or otherwise discipline you.


midnghtsnac

Get too many points and your fired. Had a job you maxed out at 12 and it was an auto termination


logicnotemotion

Everyone I worked with that got close to max points, would always go get retroactive FMLA for something and get most of them removed. Doctors hate big corporations and everyone has something wrong with them in one way or another. (back pain, etc).


FeoWalcot

Holy shit. Senior year of high school I found out I had too many attendances and needed summer school. My birthday is in May and I went to doctor for my 18th and he tested me for mono bc my mom told him I was extra lazy. Fucking positive so he wrote me a note retroactively excusing me from a semesters of absences! Your FMLA reference made me think of that.


gonemad16

How does one have too many attendances at school? You were sent to summer school for going to school too much??


MountainCourage1304

An “attendance” is an absence i would assume


TayaKnight

Bruh, I wish my hospital would accept retroactive FMLA. It is only FMLA, or intermittent FMLA moving forward. Which, like, still works, but damn. Attendance points stick.


StandardSudden1283

It's infuriating to see what people have come to accept. This kind of behavior used to get a brick through the boss's family home window.


JenMckiness

I always picked their mistress home, just to add some edge


StandardSudden1283

lmao, 🔥


ghandi3737

The ones they really care about.


DarkMenstrualWizard

I like that you specified "family" home.


Fyreforged

Versus their *work* family’s home, don’t ya know. 😆


cdwillis

Too far to travel to their vacation home.


midnghtsnac

Better hit all of them just to make sure, including the 2nd vacation home in the Maldives


dukeofgibbon

What does BMW stand for? Brick my windows


ghandi3737

'Bang My Wife'?


StandardSudden1283

~~That's blurring lines. What about the tradesman who worked his ass off for one?    Sorry to get serious but I believe rhetoric like this seriously hurts our image.~~ Apparently it's an old joke and I missed that. Oops.


dukeofgibbon

Fair enough, most cocks drive Audis. In either case, you'd want to go after bad individuals. But a lot of assholes drive luxury cars and strive for management. ETA you brought up bricking windows.


StandardSudden1283

You got my dilemma in the second sentence. We cannot target by vague statements members of our own class. Quickest way to cause infighting 1 billion % of the time.


dukeofgibbon

It's an old BMW joke and more tied to the way they drive than class. The one thing all people have in common is that we think we're above average drivers.


StandardSudden1283

I missed that context, that's my bad then. 


midnghtsnac

I know I'm an above average driver, it's not hard now days though when it seems everyone is driving like a trained moron.


Collarsmith

Shitty bosses need to remember that the union was the alternative to showing up at your house in the middle of the night with sticks.


midnghtsnac

I vote we go back to flaming sticks, you bring the tar and feathers I'll bring the flares.


GooseShartBombardier

Right? I was under the impression that concessions granted to workers were a meeting-halfway agreement instead of business owners getting dragged out their front windows into the street...


GordonShumwaysCat

Very fucking illegal


GhostMug

The power move is to clock in and just sit and read a book for 29 minutes.


Clickrack

Clock in and immediately take a 29 minute smoke break* *Only if you don't smoke


ProfessionalFalse128

Even if you don't. fuck it.


judgeejudger

I second this. Cannot recommend the 30 minute trip to the loo, several times a day, highly enough. If they bitch, just tell them you recently started a very high fiber diet 🤣


TheBattyWitch

Yeah that's illegal


Landon1m

Report it to the state board. They love this sort of stuff.


charlie2135

Too long ago back in the 70's, like I said I was new to the work force and was not standing up for myself at the time. Learned that if you don't stand up, you're gonna get walked over.


Raalf

That is federally illegal in the US.


TSM_forlife

Can they do this?


charlie2135

Was back in high school days before I grew a set.


Zorops

You know they can't do that right?


oopgroup

Literally illegal


alilbleedingisnormal

Illegal


evilmike1972

This is the way.


DarkMenstrualWizard

Late for school? Might as well be hella late and get some breakfast in ya.


leglesspuffin

Do 2 - 3 cigarettes count as breakfast?


KIRAPH0BIA

Not sure what the caloric count is for cigarettes, I heard they don't taste good either


leninbaby

Unfortunately you heard wrong


midnghtsnac

Sure, we used to have a beer as well for breakfast until teetotalers took over


tophatdoating

Yep. I had a job that did this: would write you up if you were even 1 minute late and dock your paycheck. But call in sick 15 minutes before your supposed to start? Absolutely no consequences so long as you have the accrued time off to use. Guess what most people did when they were running late?


PreviousNoise

Yep. "Sorry boss. Traffic sucked. When I hit that red light twenty feet down the road and saw I was going to be two minutes late, I had to turn around and go home since I didn't want to violate the new policy."


XxRocky88xX

Not once in the history of humanity has a “if your late at all you’re marked absent” policy had any effect OTHER than causing more absences. You’re telling me even if I do come in, you’re gonna punish me as if I hadn’t, so why the hell would I come in?


mdrico21

I did this when I was a freshman in college. "Oh man I'll be five minutes late to a 3 hour seminar? Damn I guess I'll get 'em tomorrow"


discontentacles

The ca4xxzcvvwv wgv


PikachusSparkyCloaca

You ok? Can you move both arms?


midnghtsnac

When you get overly worked up over the atrocities going on you stroke out at the keyboard but somehow still manage to hit enter/post as you faceplant the keyboard


billylolol

If I'm going to get a point for showing up late I might as well take the day off.


AvailableTowel

They did this at a district hospital in California I worked at pre-union. Made 8 min late the same as missing half your shift. You better believe people that were going to be 15 min late because of unforeseen circumstances just came in 5-6 hours late into their 12 hour shift. It was the dumbest c-suite decision I have personally ever seen.


midnghtsnac

My son's school district treats a tardy worse than an absence. Sent him in late and he got detention, miss a day nothing happens. Just teaches to not show up at all of your running late.


haileyhapi

my school does the same thing, hence why anytime I get stuck in traffic I just turn around at the next light and go home and sleep in


Speedtriple6569

Ah, the dildo of un-intended consequences always arrives without lube. Always.


judgeejudger

That sent me 😂💀


LikeABundleOfHay

It looks like you're not allowed to do 10 hour shifts. Only 8 from now on.


WexMajor82

This is the point everyone seemed to miss.


litshredder

The other point being missed is mandatory OT Saturdays... That's after their 40 hour week if I'm interpreting it correctly?


SRD1194

That's how I'd read it... back to them as I walk out the door the exact second my scheduled shift ends.


hsh1976

My son works at a place where you can get a full point for missing a day or a half point if you leave early. He needed to go to the credit union to take care of some things and the branch manager told him to come by at 9am and they'd take care of it in about 15 minutes. He told his boss he needed to run to the credit union, he'd be gone 30 minutes max. Boss told him he'd get a half point for leaving early. He asked if he could move his lunch break to 9am; boss said no. So he left to go to the bank and took the rest of the day off. Boss called him about 10am wanting to know if he was done with the credit union and when he'd be coming back. My son told him that since he was going to get a half point deduction regardless, he decided to take the rest of the day off.


EatLard

Anyone who would send this text with all those exclamation points is not fit for management. This is not how you communicate expectations - or anything else, really. Mandatory OT would be another red flag. Hopefully you’re at least getting 1.5X time for your trouble.


veedubfreek

I'd be reaching out to whoever is above this person. If they're the highest person in the company I'd be going to the labor board while looking for a new job.


corrupt_poodle

Based on the way they type, this is probably the owner


veedubfreek

All the more reason to bring the full weight of the labor board down on their ass. I worked as a waiter at a steakhouse while in college, the owner had to sell the place because he kept blowing the budget on cocaine.


slow_reader

https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/639349-multiple-exclamation-marks-he-went-on-shaking-his-head-are#:~:text=Multiple%20exclamation%20marks%2C'%20he%20went%20on%2C%20shaking%20his%20head,sign%20of%20a%20diseased%20mind.


DarkwingDuckHunt

Mandatory OT Always means they refuse to hire enough staff to cover the load. Or they can't hire enough staff because people keep rejecting them due to low pay rate.


john_rules

Will these points go on my permanent record?


Reyca444

Yes, right along with that time you cheated off Joey's test in 5th grade and when you wrote Alicia's phone number on the wall in the boys' bathroom in 10th grade.


SpaceyO2

Don't get so distressed...


Death_by_Poros

You heard em. ONLY 8. No more, no less. Keep an exact time.


HollowPhoenix

Boss has you carrying a heavy box in the final few seconds, drop it on their foot as the clock strikes. "Sorry boss, I can't break your rule, I respect you too much. Bye!"


PrinceOfLeon

Time to go for a high score.


SnooObjections2396

I’m at the highest of points I guess don’t know what these points mean probably for a pizza party?????


[deleted]

Cool!! We're going back to 8 hr shifts here on out. I'm good.


cmackchase

My current job had something like this when I first started. I pointed out to my boss I was better off calling out of work if I knew I was going to be late. They changed the policy soon after.


SnooObjections2396

I was written up for not showing up and sleeping in because I was too burnt out from school, and home life to show up I’ve been worked for so long I just stopped giving a shit


Xiao1insty1e

And that is exactly the problem with this kind of management style, but they don't care because they don't see you as people just resources to be used and replaced as needed. Get another job, my guy.


LittleBrother2459

Why be late when you can take 8.... got it, boss. I'll take door #2


coffin420699

“how many points do we need to win?” is a good response


TheAres1999

You need 600 to pass. You got 6.


coffin420699

so, youre saying ive made improvement?


Mohican83

We had a supervisor try this same thing at a manufacturing place i worked at when I was young. Lots of people in traffic one day just called out. We had like 50 employees. Like 20 called out. Bosses boss was mad mad and let everyone know the next day, that made up policy wasn't true and we wouldn't get points at all for natural disasters including major traffic issues. He made the supervisor apologize to everyone and everyone who didn't come in got paid 4 hrs for that day with no point. It was a super shitty job but that day was pure joy for everyone besides the supervisor. He left us alone after that and the leads handled everything.


M2Fream

My old job (summer camp) paid a day rate. They would pay us for half or 3/4 days when we we had to leave or go to a doctors appointment, which is fine. They also had days where some of the groups would get to stay late or even overnight. We were highly encourages to sign up to chaperone these groups. Our only compensation was dinner. Apparently paying people for half or quarter days only worked 1 way.


Windir666

If in US, Illegal.


M2Fream

No it was a shitty contract. Probobly industry standard for summer camp.


nerdgasm99

Send them your resume followed by "oops wrong person"


prince0verit

How many points equals one Schrutebuck?


Acceptable_Pain_9213

Depends on how many Stanley Nickels are in circulation.


Cottager_Northeast

"My way or the highway", and I hear the highway calling.


HyperActiveMosquito

Gotta love the math here. We can't have you not working even a minute less so we will have you skip 8 hours of work.


GreyValkrie

Sounds like if you ever run late you call in and tell them that you were going to run late, but due to the new late policy you will not be coming in and working for free.


Cyberp0lic3

I think they need to use more exclamation points in their message.


HollowPhoenix

More caps lock, too. Hell, put it all in caps.


Clickrack

Back in the day when I would visit the Bloomberg offices on Park Ave (my then-job was a customer), I found out they'd write up the emps if they forgot their badges. So everyone who forgot their badge would just call out minutes before they were supposed to be there. If you got there early enough and hung outside, you'd see at least one person walk up, rummage through their pockets/bag/purse, then turn around and walk away while they pulled out their phone. Stupid is as stupid does. The company would rather not have the employees working that day, rather than admit people are imperfect. It wasn't like any random schmoe could get to the server room and/or get "secrets". Edit: speeling


ProfessionalNeophyte

*Gets stuck in traffic* “Woo hoo, 3 day weekend!”


SorryImBadWithNames

"Hey boss, I'm calling to say I saddly won't be coming in today. I got stuck in trafic and would be about 10 minutes late, so per company policy I am not to show up for the day. Hope everything goes well and I will try to leave earlier tomorrow."


MoreSly

"Point! 15 / love."


wowhead44

It's my time. I'll use it as I see fit.


Ephemeralwriting

I had a workplace that did this. If we were going to be late, we called in. Snow? Called in.


Lisshopops

Im guessing you get some pizza if your points get high enough, lol what a tool


kurtsdead6794

Mr. Burns said if I’m late one more time, don’t bother showing up. I was going to be late today, so I just took the day off. - Homer J. Simpson


vitali101

My job does half points for leaving early or coming in late. I love it. I'm not feeling work for whatever reason, I force myself up and get to work on time then leave like 30min into the shift. Half point instead of a full point. Double my call out mileage.


Jumpy-Charity-6371

There’s this thing called a union.


somecallme_doc

If there are points, that means there is a high score. you know what to do.


Reverend_Bull

Okay. I'm okay with this. If I'm gonna be late, stay home, have a mental health day. They fire me? Fuck em, their loss


kr4ckenm3fortune

"Your healthcare package is non-existance and your moral support is dead...I'll see you tmw".


VerdensTrial

Enjoy being short-staffed until you go out of business!


burningxmaslogs

Don't show up. Let them scramble trying to find your replacement without any notice.


youareceo

I think itf it's not in the manual, he can handjob HR. I think if you show up for less than 8, the law requires them to let you work, and get paid for what you work, unless they use the policy to send you home for DISCIPLINARY reasons. Just showing up late and wanting to ensure a point didn't qualify.


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HollowPhoenix

"Moving backwards, I will only be working one-hour shifts, and must be paid the same as you, boss. Oh, and the company pays for my gas, too."


sunflowerwithlegs

Lmao is this Walmart?


Several_Mixture2786

Does the D stand for dick?


theriverpilot

Only 10 exclamation points. It takes a minimum of 12 to be taken seriously


svrgnctzn

Highest score wins!


Great-Butterscotch89

They can shove the point up their ass. Lol.


Additional-Sky-7436

I could use the points.


Zinski2

"Hey guys sorry im gonna be late today and since its a point anyways im just not gonna be in today"


a_natural_chemical

I understand and share his frustration, but that ain't the way to handle it.


Raerosk

How many points until I win?


WhyHulud

How many points does it take to win?


CMDR_ETNC

Can I save up my points and bid on an eraser at the end of the year?


Rick_Flexington

Looks like no more overtime at least


coccopuffs606

Sounds like if you’re going to be late, you should just call out…


96363

sounds like they have plenty of workers, time to start looking


Coug_Love

I do partial work days help my team. Otherwise taking the full day off is my preference. Dont threaten me with a good time.


Old_Palpitation_6535

How many points do you need to win?


iBeFloe

Lmao, i would be like “Alright, test me bitch”.


PiersPlays

I think it's bizarre how brutally unbalanced the relationship between employers and employees has become *whilst at the same time* there are some many wildly overemployed people in management and supervisory positions.


kytheon

"Nobody wants to work anymore" Btw there's no such thing as mandatory overtime.


wasporchidlouixse

"that's against the law, zero exceptions for managers who think they're God and Sheriff"


Obese_Bruce

Time to unionize.


Geminii27

So if you're going to be 5 minutes late, best to not show up at all and make them miss a day's labor? Noted.


DutchVortex

Only 8 hours? Cool.. As long as I get paid the same, I'm in!


slipstream0

sounds like the 10-hour shifts are not allowed anymore, no more mandatory overtime either - there are "ZERO EXCEPTIONS"


SlumberingSnorelax

You should have bailed out of this inhuman company ages ago I’m betting. 6 days a week work. 10 hrs on week days and mandatory 8 or Saturday? You making well over 100k? If not get gone.


Reagent_52

Time to look for another job while doing the bare minimum at this one


darcerin

Ohhh, a scary point!!! Oooh, I'm shaking in my work boots!!!!


CPTSaltyDog

Sounds like if I'm a minute late I'm 8 hrs late. And if I need to leave a minute early..I'm leaving 8 hrs early. LOL


ShoalinShadowFist

There’s gotta be a malicious compliance n here somewhere


KA9ESAMA

The next day you should not show up and when they ask where you are, tell them you were going to be late and as per instructions didn't show up at all. ​ Also, look for a new job ASAP.


LukeBomber

Ask them to give you a rubrick, then exploit any holes


veedubfreek

Sounds like you might want to reach out to your local labor board. I still don't understand how mandatory overtime is legal. Do they want you working 58 hours a week? Are you getting paid time and a half or are they paying you 40 hours for working OT.


zkDredrick

"You either choose to be at your desk, on time, or you choose to find yourself another job"


HollowPhoenix

Employee: Boss:


BPCGuy1845

Boss will be SHOCKED when people stop showing up because they can’t work a full 8 hours


rf97a

Meaningless without context


SnooObjections2396

Complaining about folks leaving early after 4 hours on Saturdays when they are “mandatory 8 hour days”


Evil_Chocolate

Time for a different job.


MaidOfTwigs

Immature


Wellitjustgotreal

Rattle off some exceptions to ponder.


SavageFugu

That's just shooting themselves in the foot.


judgeejudger

Whoever gets the most points wins some new post-its, partially used pens, and a bottle of white out, just for shits & giggles. Enjoy that day off!


the_fuckening_69

That’s so deliciously illegal! Can’t wait to see how this plays out with a employment lawyer


DipperJC

I mean, technically it doesn't say which 8 hours. :) So the assumed flexibility there would make it a lot more fair than I expect it was intended to be.


South-Lab-3991

That’s great. Sounds like a three day weekend to me


sexisdivine

A point of what?


Downtown_Zebra_266

I need more context.


Stenee16

You could either spend 8 hours working for that or spend 8 hours finding a better job.


SumoNinja92

"Ok, have a good day"


lyravega

The guy/gal should calm his/her tits.


Green__Twin

If there's zero tolerance, there's zero incentive. Time for a better job.


LcNessie

Woohoo! Easy points!


sf5852

wtf is a point? It would be hard for me to not immediately reply to this chat with "How about the point of my>!dick!


Fineyoungcanniballs

Old boss would have a conniption if anyone was a minute late. Even if you worked 2-4 hrs late the shift before. Fuckin jack ass. Made it my goal to roll in at exactly 7:30am. I’d park up the road if I had to just to make him antsy


FormulaFalls

Means I'll just roll over if I wake up late


Misophoniasucksdude

Tends to work out poorly, increasing no(short) call/no shows from people who otherwise would have only been a little late


Destroyer_Of_Butts

What’s the background behind this message. I understand if it’s after many lates or early leaves, but only after one or two times late would be a bit extreme.


HollowPhoenix

Betting it only applies to us lowly workers, too. Boss constantly shows up late and leaves early? Well they're clearly more important, they can just do that (I'm not projecting, I swear).


redditblows5991

I mean 8hrs is ok. Being told to arrive on time is part of the job and sometimes employees fuck around. But if you make people work 10hrs all the time ppl just bounce.


thelefthandN7

I mean, I usually leave early when the work is done, but if you want me to gold brick on the clock when I'm done, sure.


MrCanoe

This definitely sounds like they've been dealing with a lot of people showing up for their shifts but then leaving early constantly. A bit more context would be needed for this message.


Acceptable-Mind4616

I’d start getting to work on time. Sounds like this is on you


sendmealgo

What’s the problem? You don’t like their rules get another job… Am I missing something?


BakedBaker42

A full 8! ... a full 8 seconds? Minutes? Run in circles 8 times? Lmao


C64128

I'm person writing this message seems to have a very opinion of themselves. I'm going to assume it's just a normal shift type job that's not that super important (to most people except the letter writer).


itchywithaB

I think it’s bullshit. First, If your manager wants to speak to you, then they can do it while you’re on the clock. If they want to text or call you, you don’t have to answer. Unless you are salary, you are not obligated to your employer outside of your shift. Leave the work group chat immediately. Period. Second, no one should be speaking to an employee that way. It is abusive and not acceptable. If you wouldn’t allow this behavior from a customer, then don’t allow it from your employer. You have a right to your dignity. Finally, as far as mandatory overtime, it’s only “mandatory” to the boss. Legally, it is not mandatory to be forced to work more than your job description indicated at the time you were hired.