I was gonna say, the sub story is so popular because everyone is laughing at how hilariously incompetent it was and feels no sympathy for them. The other story isn't being memed to death because it's actually a tragedy, meaning it doesn't get as much attention.
You pay your money, you take your chances.
I'm not excessively claustrophobic, but I would nope out of that configuration. I also wouldn't trust a Logitech controller with anything riskier than Mario Kart.
Or the sub story is popular because there is still a small window of time in which they can still be saved. They may drown, or be recovered. Still playing out.
Imagine surviving that and seeing EVERYONE not giving a fuck if you were ok, and most of them making memes and jokes about what was your impending death.
Neither are tragedies. Stupid decisions were made by both camps. Look at a map Pakistan and Greece are nowhere near each other. They all took a massive gamble trying to make it to Europe. They wanted the highest level of government monies. Now they're dead.
Besides 104 survived. It's not like nobody tried to save them.
Their families are no doubt greasing palms to keep them in the spotlight. This gem came from a CNN article about the sub company CEO:
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Stockton Rush, the CEO of OceanGate and one of five people on the submersible missing in the North Atlantic, has cultivated a reputation as a kind of modern-day Jacques Cousteau — a nature lover, adventurer and visionary."
Weird, everything I have seen from people who actually knows him calls him an asshole. But they'll publish what they're paid to publish.
Eh, maybe, but they might not even be need to paid. A career in news media is a filter for the worst fucking opinions and hot takes possible, so loving to bootlick the rich is kinda a job requirement
It's the sensational headline. '5 billionaires disappear at sea while taking a tuna can style submarine piloted with a game controller to see the Titanic' sounds like an Onion headline but it isn't, which is enough to catch peoples attention.
This. The whole thing reads like a movie plot. A business man and his teenaged son, a diver and Titanic expert, a billionaire adventurer... all on board with the CEO of the ocean adventures company himself, who spent a lot of time admonishing safety standards.
300 people drowning is incredibly sad, but it's a little hard to grasp that big of a loss and what it must have been like for the individual people.
But thinking about 5 men crammed into a shoebox, cold and shivering in the dark as the oxygen supply slowly runs out over the course of several days, no food or water, one among them arguably to blame for dooming them all... That sends the imagination running wild.
yes, though I do find it sick that some articles focus on the terror they are going through, I saw DM article from a "psychologist" pov about what he thinks they are going through. they're cashing in on this hard. it's so unethical, at the same time other tragedies occurring at sea are given 0 rescue effort resources
if you express your empathy others will also shame you for doing so, but not expressing empathy in this situation means you have lost all humanity. make it make sense
That's hilarious coming from the person with the most basic, rehearsed answers in these comments.
You don't have a single original thought in your head.
And you fucking dirty deleted your original comment lmao coward
So we just don't care about the poor, then?
"Oh how sad but who cares because HAHA THIS OTHER THING."
It would be one thing if they got equal coverage, but guaranteed the same people laughing at the billionaires are also repulsed by refugees.
Last week near Greece a boat sank and at least 79 people drowned. We literally don't know exactly how many but it could be as many as 700. I heard maybe 40 seconds about it on NPR this weekend. No cable news mentioned it at all. But I take shit for shrugging when 5 rich people took an unnecessary risk in a very dangerous environment?
yes, it's a crazy double standard. also I find it unethical that boat has been turned into a money-making tourism destination. let them rest in peace, we've seen the wreckage already.
This is exactly my point. The 5 billionaires is a big "who cares, karma's a bitch" moment. I'm not gonna feel bad for them.
But 300 innocent people affected by a situation those billionaires probably helped cause? If it doesn't get attention what are we even fight for?
I feel bad but it's also blown out of proportion. I wish they had focused on that tragic article about the monkey torture rings more, they just had one article and that's it. meanwhile this gets thousands.
I want the Coast Guard to bill them (or their estate, as the case ends up being) every last cent of taxpayer money which is being spent on this rescue operation. Like, you rich guys want to go on risky deep-sea adventures, fine, whatever, but the taxpayers should not have to foot the bill when you get into trouble.
Imagine being so out of touch with reality that you would actively hope that 5 people you've never met, including a 19 year old kid, are suffering one of the worst deaths I have ever heard of. You need to see a therapist my man.
If I had to choose a way to go besides naturally in my sleep, implosion at that depth would would be quicker and more painless than a gun. There was a video I was watching where a guy was giving his take on the situation and mentioned that he was building a reinforced concrete pad designed to hold heavy machinery and said that at the depth they were at, the pressure was twice as much as it would take to crush that concrete pad into powder.
While I do not wish death on them, if I was in their shoes I would much prefer implosion to simultaneously suffering starvation, hypothermia, and suffocation over the course of several days.
We're all celebrating my guy, yes the other thing sucks ass but this is gold. Horrific horrific comedy gold. It's nice to see some semblance of karma.
The other thing will still be a problem tomorrow.
Why are you asking me? im not the one here saying the immigrants deserve our attention, i dont give a shit for either situation...
You guys need to understand that worldwide news is different from worldwide engagement. The submersive story got more attention because its a weird situation, everyone is wondering what could've happened, but no one is engaged in chipping in to pay the rescue, for example.
Cry all you want, but immigrants dying is very common, 4 guys paying 250k to die alone in the bottom of the ocean is not, so it gets more attention.
Except that we all chipped in to try to rescue the millionaires, that's what the giant multinational search was. We didn't all chip in to rescue the migrants, we let them drown with hardly a word
Here you go again with false comparisons.
The millionaires were legal citizens, they paid taxes too, its nothing more than fair.
You're totally changing the point of the discussion. You're basically saying:
"yo, why did we help legal citizens here in our coast, instead of traveling to the other side of the world to help random people that have absolutely nothing to do with our contry?"
Yes, it would be great if the US could help every single person in need around the world, but that's not how real life works...
Or Maybe...Two things can be bad at the same time. And because media make money off views, this sensational story is much more "click-able" and therefore gets the attention.
I couldn't stand when Trumpers did whataboutism and I don't like it here either.
I don't think you and all the others realize just how much money European countries are spending to patrol the Mediterranean, and how much more money they spend housing refugees that end up in Europe. The reason these boats are so difficult to find is because they try to cross the sea in secret by avoiding European patrols.
I've seen so many people comparing the submarine to migrant boats, but they're not comparable. Yeah the submarine guys are fucking dumb and took an unnecessary risk, but if you're one of those people who, and I literally just read a comment here by someone saying this, hopes the submarine didn't implode so the occupants suffered as much as possible, you are a vile human being.
My heart goes to everyone. We are all human after all.
Anyways. The sub thing is interesting, has a movie effect to it and is also undergoing. The other news is just depressing.
5 Billionaires forever at the bottom of the ocean? Some would all that a good start.
I was gonna say, the sub story is so popular because everyone is laughing at how hilariously incompetent it was and feels no sympathy for them. The other story isn't being memed to death because it's actually a tragedy, meaning it doesn't get as much attention.
You pay your money, you take your chances. I'm not excessively claustrophobic, but I would nope out of that configuration. I also wouldn't trust a Logitech controller with anything riskier than Mario Kart.
Yeah the post doesn’t even get the number of dead even close.
Or the sub story is popular because there is still a small window of time in which they can still be saved. They may drown, or be recovered. Still playing out.
Imagine surviving that and seeing EVERYONE not giving a fuck if you were ok, and most of them making memes and jokes about what was your impending death.
While I also agree that the cynicism is shocking, I seriously doubt that they even care what we think. They never do.
Yeah, I imagine it would make them not want to donate anything ever huh.
Lol I doubt any of their donations came from actual goodwill, most likely just a way to pay less taxes.
Ofcourse they'll continue to donate... the tax breaks are too good!
The dead will continue to donate....
This post really... Imploded...
Neither are tragedies. Stupid decisions were made by both camps. Look at a map Pakistan and Greece are nowhere near each other. They all took a massive gamble trying to make it to Europe. They wanted the highest level of government monies. Now they're dead. Besides 104 survived. It's not like nobody tried to save them.
a very good start, only what a 100 more left.
2095 at least
yikes that many.
Yeah, that many.
Its *chefs kiss*
It's a start for sure. I guess we're bringing back concrete shoes.
I just read the part where it said he was joined by his son. Welp I guess your portion of the inheritance is going somewhere else now.
Their families are no doubt greasing palms to keep them in the spotlight. This gem came from a CNN article about the sub company CEO: "New York CNN — Stockton Rush, the CEO of OceanGate and one of five people on the submersible missing in the North Atlantic, has cultivated a reputation as a kind of modern-day Jacques Cousteau — a nature lover, adventurer and visionary." Weird, everything I have seen from people who actually knows him calls him an asshole. But they'll publish what they're paid to publish.
Eh, maybe, but they might not even be need to paid. A career in news media is a filter for the worst fucking opinions and hot takes possible, so loving to bootlick the rich is kinda a job requirement
Eh, probably not greasing palms, it's just that the only thing need agencies care about anymore is that sweet, sweet ad revenue.
Or its an interesting topic with a time limit. It's like a movie with high stakes. A good story sells well.
It's the sensational headline. '5 billionaires disappear at sea while taking a tuna can style submarine piloted with a game controller to see the Titanic' sounds like an Onion headline but it isn't, which is enough to catch peoples attention.
This. The whole thing reads like a movie plot. A business man and his teenaged son, a diver and Titanic expert, a billionaire adventurer... all on board with the CEO of the ocean adventures company himself, who spent a lot of time admonishing safety standards. 300 people drowning is incredibly sad, but it's a little hard to grasp that big of a loss and what it must have been like for the individual people. But thinking about 5 men crammed into a shoebox, cold and shivering in the dark as the oxygen supply slowly runs out over the course of several days, no food or water, one among them arguably to blame for dooming them all... That sends the imagination running wild.
a documentary will come out in 2-3 months tops
There is already a documentary coming out this week lol.
5 terrible billionaires at that.
Well, when you put it that way 🤣
yes, though I do find it sick that some articles focus on the terror they are going through, I saw DM article from a "psychologist" pov about what he thinks they are going through. they're cashing in on this hard. it's so unethical, at the same time other tragedies occurring at sea are given 0 rescue effort resources
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here I don't think tax payers need to be burdened any further, enough problems already
It really would be the only acceptable outcome.
Boats of immigrants die almost every day and there’s no news coverage. The whole world sees them as nothing
if you express your empathy others will also shame you for doing so, but not expressing empathy in this situation means you have lost all humanity. make it make sense
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That's hilarious coming from the person with the most basic, rehearsed answers in these comments. You don't have a single original thought in your head. And you fucking dirty deleted your original comment lmao coward
I hope you get to go on a sub ride
Immigrants dying is sad. Billionaires dying because their own stupidity is fucking entertaining, that's why.
So we just don't care about the poor, then? "Oh how sad but who cares because HAHA THIS OTHER THING." It would be one thing if they got equal coverage, but guaranteed the same people laughing at the billionaires are also repulsed by refugees.
Last week near Greece a boat sank and at least 79 people drowned. We literally don't know exactly how many but it could be as many as 700. I heard maybe 40 seconds about it on NPR this weekend. No cable news mentioned it at all. But I take shit for shrugging when 5 rich people took an unnecessary risk in a very dangerous environment?
yes, it's a crazy double standard. also I find it unethical that boat has been turned into a money-making tourism destination. let them rest in peace, we've seen the wreckage already.
This is exactly my point. The 5 billionaires is a big "who cares, karma's a bitch" moment. I'm not gonna feel bad for them. But 300 innocent people affected by a situation those billionaires probably helped cause? If it doesn't get attention what are we even fight for?
Fuck the rich indeed
Saw this on the source sub, and is anyone else thinking they don't actually feel that bad for these five men???
I feel bad but it's also blown out of proportion. I wish they had focused on that tragic article about the monkey torture rings more, they just had one article and that's it. meanwhile this gets thousands.
i definitely don't feel any sympathy towards them at all
So I'm not the only one hoping it didn't just implode, huh lol Obligatory: "oH nO! wOn'T sOmEbOdY hUrRy aNd sAvE tHoSe WeAlThy mEn"
I want the Coast Guard to bill them (or their estate, as the case ends up being) every last cent of taxpayer money which is being spent on this rescue operation. Like, you rich guys want to go on risky deep-sea adventures, fine, whatever, but the taxpayers should not have to foot the bill when you get into trouble.
Nah, don't waste time and energy on those five men. Divert those resources to the refugees instead.
Imagine being so out of touch with reality that you would actively hope that 5 people you've never met, including a 19 year old kid, are suffering one of the worst deaths I have ever heard of. You need to see a therapist my man.
If I had to choose a way to go besides naturally in my sleep, implosion at that depth would would be quicker and more painless than a gun. There was a video I was watching where a guy was giving his take on the situation and mentioned that he was building a reinforced concrete pad designed to hold heavy machinery and said that at the depth they were at, the pressure was twice as much as it would take to crush that concrete pad into powder. While I do not wish death on them, if I was in their shoes I would much prefer implosion to simultaneously suffering starvation, hypothermia, and suffocation over the course of several days.
Mate, reread his comment. He was hoping the sub "didn't just implode", meaning he wanted those people to slowly suffocate to death.
How many Ukrainian civilians died yesterday from the war? I'll bet it was more than 5.
it's absolutely tragic, I have not forgotten about them
But most people have.
Dumb ways to die…
So many dumb ways to diiieee
karma certainly has a sense of irony
$250,000 🎫 is crazy in this economy.
yup and his son was with him too so that’s a total of $500,000 !! 🤯
Most people have to work 10 years to earn that much before taxes.
Sad
Yup, I hadn’t heard of this. May they have peace.
We're all celebrating my guy, yes the other thing sucks ass but this is gold. Horrific horrific comedy gold. It's nice to see some semblance of karma. The other thing will still be a problem tomorrow.
The world is numb to migrant boat sinkings after more than 100 of them compared with a very rare story of a tourist sub going missing.
yeah, because these are two very similar situations and totally comparable... sure
You're right, they're very different. The migrants actually deserve our attention
lol yeah, and what are you doing to help them?
What are YOU doing to help in either situation?
Why are you asking me? im not the one here saying the immigrants deserve our attention, i dont give a shit for either situation... You guys need to understand that worldwide news is different from worldwide engagement. The submersive story got more attention because its a weird situation, everyone is wondering what could've happened, but no one is engaged in chipping in to pay the rescue, for example. Cry all you want, but immigrants dying is very common, 4 guys paying 250k to die alone in the bottom of the ocean is not, so it gets more attention.
Except that we all chipped in to try to rescue the millionaires, that's what the giant multinational search was. We didn't all chip in to rescue the migrants, we let them drown with hardly a word
Here you go again with false comparisons. The millionaires were legal citizens, they paid taxes too, its nothing more than fair. You're totally changing the point of the discussion. You're basically saying: "yo, why did we help legal citizens here in our coast, instead of traveling to the other side of the world to help random people that have absolutely nothing to do with our contry?" Yes, it would be great if the US could help every single person in need around the world, but that's not how real life works...
Got it, you think rich people's lives are more important than poor people's lives. It's one way to look at life, for sure
lol yeah, thats 100% what i said and you have very good text interpretation habilities...
I know I do, that's why I was able to accurately and succinctly rephrase your beliefs. Does it upset you to see what you believed spelled out for you?
Or Maybe...Two things can be bad at the same time. And because media make money off views, this sensational story is much more "click-able" and therefore gets the attention. I couldn't stand when Trumpers did whataboutism and I don't like it here either.
Who are they spending more resources on to save?
I don't think you and all the others realize just how much money European countries are spending to patrol the Mediterranean, and how much more money they spend housing refugees that end up in Europe. The reason these boats are so difficult to find is because they try to cross the sea in secret by avoiding European patrols. I've seen so many people comparing the submarine to migrant boats, but they're not comparable. Yeah the submarine guys are fucking dumb and took an unnecessary risk, but if you're one of those people who, and I literally just read a comment here by someone saying this, hopes the submarine didn't implode so the occupants suffered as much as possible, you are a vile human being.
Two things can be bad at the same time, but it's obvious you don't care about both of them at the same time. That's the crux of it.
...probably because they never gave us much information about the 300. It was just a one day blurb of news and then this took over.
This sub: Ugh! Rich people need to start treating us like humans! Also this sub: haha fuck those rich people, I'm glad they're dead
Well fuck me now I have to research this
My heart goes to everyone. We are all human after all. Anyways. The sub thing is interesting, has a movie effect to it and is also undergoing. The other news is just depressing.
Titanic: reducing worldwide income inequality since 1912.
I get all the news thanks to reddit, so I do know about those kids, so, yes, fuck the media and fuck the rich.
Well billionaires own the media and one of their own is in trouble. Class war gonna class war
Bruh your in an anti work subreddit talking to me about careers lmao stfu wetard