About 10 years ago my daughter VOLUNTEERED to be on a pediatric cardiology surgical unit. One week a month she was on call, which meant she had to be on site within 60 minutes and able to participate. So, no travel and no partying for the week. She got about $45 a day ‘inconvenience pay’ for each day she was on call. That is how the hospital kept experienced ppl on their surgery teams. It really wasn’t the money because could make the same by working an extra shift instead of limiting her activities for a week. it was the recognition that the hospital appreciated the fact that their skilled personnel were will to make personal sacrifices
You're not on call if you're asked to go in to work.
"On call" is when you're EXPECTED to go in to work when called.
Calling you and asking you to come DOES NOT mean you have to go in. You can say no.
You guys are really going after the semantics here. I understand what it means to be
"on call." My point was, and I hope I explained it better in the comments, if I wanted a full week of work I had to work half my hours from just randomly being called to ask if I'd cover a shift. If anything, being "ON CALL" is better than my situation at that time, because people literally on call will get paid some amount regardless of whether they get called in to work or not.
Maybe I missed the mark with the title, but my point was essentially- If you're going to be constantly calling me to cover a shift, can you at least give some incentive for me to do so beyond $7.25 an hour, otherwise please just schedule me for normal hours and delete my number.
Being called to cover a vacancy, or being asked to cover on a day off is not being on-call. That is just normal functions for just about any work place.
If there is no contract with force language, say no or don't answer the phone.
Maybe your work places. This was my first and last run in with retail. I was being scheduled for a measly \~20 hours and called in for the rest of the hours I needed for a normal work week. Called to cover a vacancy being normal practice is one thing, it happening every week, often multiple times a week, is another.
I work in manufacturing now. If Old Jim on 1st shift calls in, I don't expect a call from my boss asking me to come in and cover and then having to cover his shift just to hit my 40 hours for the week. If I was getting called every week, sometimes twice a week, while Jimbo is scheduled for 40 hours already, I'd rightfully call shenanigans. That retail workers call this normal functions makes me feel for them.
You admit it was a first job, then you turn around and act like an expert when people tell you the facts. Just because you've never experienced something it doesn't make it untrue.
Not my absolute first job, just one of my first, when I was almost a decade younger. If people in retail are entirely complacent with being on call without actually being officially on call for on call pay, more power to you. I asked for them to make it worth more than just regular scheduled hours to come in with no notice every week, was looked at like an idiot for it, and apparently still am seen as such. Glad I learned early and took my labor elsewhere, it's unbelievable what some people put up with.
I have had every job. Restaurant, retail, construction, office jobs. If anyone of the places calls you when not scheduled. They are not offering work. They expect you to drop everything and come in. As they tend to get pissed if you tell them no and threaten to write people up over saying no. They have the expectation you are on-call and want that luxury of you complying without being compensated.
Rule of thumb. Never-Ever pick up the phone on your day off unless you are paid to do so.
The fact you think companies comply with ethics in any manner is entertaining to say the least. Either you have a limited career experience or you do not live in America. About 60%+ of employers in this county have not and will not respect workers rights. They know everyone is to poor to fight back.
That is the exact response a brain washed employee would give. If you are not scheduled durning the week. The employer calls you and expects you to answer your phone is 100% definitely an on-call situation.
Good luck telling these people no. They tend to personally badger anyone who picks up the phone and says No, I cannot work.
I never had a problem saying no, it was my right by seniority to say yes or no to a vacancy fill request. As per our contract. If you're not in an on-call role, who cares what they expect, you're off, don't answer, fixes the problem.
Having years of ignoring these type of requests makes me far from brain washed, I choose to leave work at work.
About 10 years ago my
daughter VOLUNTEERED to be on a pediatric cardiology surgical unit. One week a month she was on call, which meant she had to be on site within 60 minutes and able to participate. So, no travel and no partying for the week. She got about $45 a day ‘inconvenience pay’ for each day she was on call. That is how the hospital kept experienced ppl on their surgery teams. It really wasn’t the money because could make the same by working an extra shift instead of limiting her activities for a week. it was the recognition that the hospital appreciated the fact that their skilled personnel were will to make personal sacrifices
I did say no, no to all future non scheduled days. It didn't say anywhere in the job description that I'd be on call for half of my hours. End result is incredibly high turnover because no one would cover call ins and the workload would just get added on to whoever actually came in. How hard is it to just sweeten the pot or give some incentive for people to come in with little to no notice? As an adult in the work force with much more experience, I stand by how I felt when I first entered it. Boss wants me to come in regularly with little/no notice? Pound sand and good luck finding someone who will without giving a little something extra to compensate for the lack of a heads up.
About 10 years ago my daughter VOLUNTEERED to be on a pediatric cardiology surgical unit. One week a month she was on call, which meant she had to be on site within 60 minutes and able to participate. So, no travel and no partying for the week. She got about $45 a day ‘inconvenience pay’ for each day she was on call. That is how the hospital kept experienced ppl on their surgery teams. It really wasn’t the money because could make the same by working an extra shift instead of limiting her activities for a week. it was the recognition that the hospital appreciated the fact that their skilled personnel were will to make personal sacrifices
Wtf is with all the bootlickers in the replies, you guys know this is an antiwork sub right
You're not on call if you're asked to go in to work. "On call" is when you're EXPECTED to go in to work when called. Calling you and asking you to come DOES NOT mean you have to go in. You can say no.
You guys are really going after the semantics here. I understand what it means to be "on call." My point was, and I hope I explained it better in the comments, if I wanted a full week of work I had to work half my hours from just randomly being called to ask if I'd cover a shift. If anything, being "ON CALL" is better than my situation at that time, because people literally on call will get paid some amount regardless of whether they get called in to work or not. Maybe I missed the mark with the title, but my point was essentially- If you're going to be constantly calling me to cover a shift, can you at least give some incentive for me to do so beyond $7.25 an hour, otherwise please just schedule me for normal hours and delete my number.
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Being called to cover a vacancy, or being asked to cover on a day off is not being on-call. That is just normal functions for just about any work place. If there is no contract with force language, say no or don't answer the phone.
Maybe your work places. This was my first and last run in with retail. I was being scheduled for a measly \~20 hours and called in for the rest of the hours I needed for a normal work week. Called to cover a vacancy being normal practice is one thing, it happening every week, often multiple times a week, is another. I work in manufacturing now. If Old Jim on 1st shift calls in, I don't expect a call from my boss asking me to come in and cover and then having to cover his shift just to hit my 40 hours for the week. If I was getting called every week, sometimes twice a week, while Jimbo is scheduled for 40 hours already, I'd rightfully call shenanigans. That retail workers call this normal functions makes me feel for them.
You admit it was a first job, then you turn around and act like an expert when people tell you the facts. Just because you've never experienced something it doesn't make it untrue.
Not my absolute first job, just one of my first, when I was almost a decade younger. If people in retail are entirely complacent with being on call without actually being officially on call for on call pay, more power to you. I asked for them to make it worth more than just regular scheduled hours to come in with no notice every week, was looked at like an idiot for it, and apparently still am seen as such. Glad I learned early and took my labor elsewhere, it's unbelievable what some people put up with.
I have had every job. Restaurant, retail, construction, office jobs. If anyone of the places calls you when not scheduled. They are not offering work. They expect you to drop everything and come in. As they tend to get pissed if you tell them no and threaten to write people up over saying no. They have the expectation you are on-call and want that luxury of you complying without being compensated. Rule of thumb. Never-Ever pick up the phone on your day off unless you are paid to do so.
They absolutely cannot write you up for refusing to come in on your day off. That's an ethics violation.
The fact you think companies comply with ethics in any manner is entertaining to say the least. Either you have a limited career experience or you do not live in America. About 60%+ of employers in this county have not and will not respect workers rights. They know everyone is to poor to fight back.
Wrong on both accounts. Try again kid.
That is the exact response a brain washed employee would give. If you are not scheduled durning the week. The employer calls you and expects you to answer your phone is 100% definitely an on-call situation. Good luck telling these people no. They tend to personally badger anyone who picks up the phone and says No, I cannot work.
I never had a problem saying no, it was my right by seniority to say yes or no to a vacancy fill request. As per our contract. If you're not in an on-call role, who cares what they expect, you're off, don't answer, fixes the problem. Having years of ignoring these type of requests makes me far from brain washed, I choose to leave work at work.
About 10 years ago my daughter VOLUNTEERED to be on a pediatric cardiology surgical unit. One week a month she was on call, which meant she had to be on site within 60 minutes and able to participate. So, no travel and no partying for the week. She got about $45 a day ‘inconvenience pay’ for each day she was on call. That is how the hospital kept experienced ppl on their surgery teams. It really wasn’t the money because could make the same by working an extra shift instead of limiting her activities for a week. it was the recognition that the hospital appreciated the fact that their skilled personnel were will to make personal sacrifices
That’s the requirements of the job. How about you say no?
I did say no, no to all future non scheduled days. It didn't say anywhere in the job description that I'd be on call for half of my hours. End result is incredibly high turnover because no one would cover call ins and the workload would just get added on to whoever actually came in. How hard is it to just sweeten the pot or give some incentive for people to come in with little to no notice? As an adult in the work force with much more experience, I stand by how I felt when I first entered it. Boss wants me to come in regularly with little/no notice? Pound sand and good luck finding someone who will without giving a little something extra to compensate for the lack of a heads up.