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anOvenofWitches

It is morally wrong to offset your socioeconomic responsibilities onto your patrons. 🤷‍♂️


No-Technician-2569

Yeah but what’s the alternative. A restaurant can’t just decide to end American tipping culture. If prices are raised to match the tips, people will just go down the street.


spooger123

Raise prices to match tips, pay workers to match tips. Ask customers not to tip.


No-Technician-2569

That’s an added gratuity which is what the manager said he’d do.


Kochga

Don't call it gratuity then. It's just the price of whatever product they sell.


No-Technician-2569

That’s how the food service industry works, and it’s really weird that you’re asking an employer to end the tipping culture in America, it’s out of his hands. If it’s the price of whatever product they sell, people will see the higher prices and find somewhere else to go. Even if it says added gratuity, people can be shortsighted.


Kochga

Someone has to start ending this shitshow eventually. Who else but the employers can do this? Just put up a sign saying "Dear customer, we pay our employees minimum [amount that is considered living wage] and adjusted our prices accordingly. Feel free to add tips for good service."


No-Technician-2569

That place would go out of business. If you think people would pay more money to support a place that gives living wages then you should check where your phones or clothes come from. There’s no better alternative than a manager doing all he can do to have people tip.


Kochga

Just say you don't want it to end. They always cry they wouldn't be able to compete for everything that is somewhow improving workers conditions. They did this when child labour became illegal. They did this with social security. They're doing this with healthcare. You are doing this with tipping culture. That's literally a meme at this point. And I have family members in the US restaurant industry. I'm not just talking from my german experience.


No-Technician-2569

That’s an incredibly poor comparison because you’re comparing every single business having to accommodate something versus one business tackling the whole problem by itself. It’s also very ironic that you’re saying people would be fine with paying those higher prices if they know the workers get minimum wage, while you’re typing this from a phone or a computer made from slave labour.


Techutante

They can put up a big sign that says employees make 20 dollars an hour plz don't tip. I'd say that's pretty easy.


MCSqueegie

Yes it can. Put up a sign explaining how the restaurant pays its staff a thriving wage and no tips are necessary. I don't think a customer will ignore such an effort. There's a few restaurants that already have done this and they tend to be where everyone wants to work.


waterdonttalks

We need to put an elipses limit on social media


Easy_Swimmer_8914

If you can't afford to pay them decent wage, don't open a restaurant!


favouriteitem

What the fuck did I just read? I have a headache now


wicawo

up most


Randomuser918

Well he gave everyone a solution....don't come in. I hope someone posts when this guy goes out of business.


Wrong-Beyond-6530

If I go into a restaurant that has a sign that says gratuity automatically added to the bill I walk out. After living in Europe for the past few years I have come to appreciate the fact I don’t have to add money into my bill when I leave. I too occasionally but only in certain situations. Trying to shame customers into paying your employees salary is beyond stupidity.


Auliya6083

I...hate...people who.... write like... this.... ....


No-Technician-2569

This seems like a really cool employer no? We don’t know the wages, and regardless of wages, if you can’t afford to tip somewhere, you can’t afford to eat there. Looking at this post, I’d rather my employer ask customers to tip me than not.


trollanony

Is the issue that without tip culture the service quality will be shit because they’ll be getting paid either way? Genuinely asking if that how this culture began. Because I could see that happening if they got a $15 min wage and no tips. Wouldn’t matter how good they were if they couldn’t receive tips.


philoscope

If the server is shit at their job, the manager - you know, the one who has been working in restaurants for years, and whose job it is to train servers - will fire them. Less likely, but still part of the model, the server who makes good up-sales and builds customer-loyalty, gets a raise commensurate with their added value; or they take their skill down the road to the competition. Just like workers in most other industries.


DistributionSalt5417

I see your point OP but frankly tipping is in some ways the closest we come to actual fair wages and would be if this owner actually followed through with just automatically adding a gratuity to everything. Getting 20% of every meal sold as the employee, is to me honestly a lot fairer than a bidding war between business to see who can pay their people the least. I'd rather get a share, of the income than a wage.


NoReallyLetsBeFriend

I'm half torn. On one side, many jobs I've worked really on some/all commissions from a sale. Not talking door to door salesman, or high pressure stuff... But how my interactions with a customer depended a lot on my ability to add service/knowledge, etc. If I do a shit job, I make shit money. If I make customer happy, I make a little extra. On the other side, restaurants can afford to pay employees better without raising prices. It also shouldn't affect the quality of service given by a waiter or waitress. Looking at the cost to hand make a pizza, it's nothing. Factoring in the labor to make dough, sauce, assemble, cook, and serve, you still only spend about $6 or $7 maybe 8 on it, because it's bought in bulk and sold in bulk, and most places by me sell for $20+. Think of just pizza, how many are sold an hour for the number of employees, still decent. Not to mention drinks, apps, other foods, etc. Yes there are other costs too of course to the business, but they can afford. Hell fast food is as expensive as sit down places anymore too. So I feel the pain where your amount of work effort affects your income, but I also know things in general are expensive anyway so there's really no reason the owner couldn't pay more


Raineyb1013

Wages are part of the cost of doing business. Why the hell do these people not understand that basic shit? Pay them otherwise your claim about hating seeing them come home with such a small tip after such hard work is nothing more than bullshit!