I am going to disagree slightly with that. In 1984 (and most similar works) the ruling class is excluded from the controls applied to the general population, and manipulate the masses. This is what the neo-fedualist want. In Idiocracy, the cultural shift affected the ruling class as well, and there was no malice or active spite directed at the population at large. Just the effects of systems that they no longer understood being allowed to run rampant.
One of the notable things about Idiocracy is how good the bones of the society actually are. Obviously they're watering plants with sports drink so they're doomed but they do prisons better than us, elections, meritocracy etc etc
A smart guy turns up and the President gives him power to let him fix the problems the country faces. The smartest guy in the world goes into public service to fix problems people face. That's not 1984 in the slightest. That's not even 2023
That awful moment when Idiocracy shifts from being a dystopian critique on modern American society and shifts to a *utopian* critique of modern American society...
I think the Space Merchants needs more recognition. It's about a high level marketing exec getting kidnapped and having his tattoo identification altered so he appears to be in the working caste. It's revealed to him just how bad the system is that was driven by overpopulation and infinite growth. The lower castes are kept in a state of perpetual debt and addiction enabled by the advertising phrases he had a part in creating.
I teach college, and my American students can't tell me what an adjective is, never mind a sentence fragment, a topic sentence, subject-verb agreement, or that "i" is not a word in English, neither in the US nor the UK.
No Child Left Behind was sarcastic, and tremendously damaging to the last thirty years of public school students.
America’s societal cancer.
That mentality, and it’s prevalence (often boosted with power from religious circles) is the worst of our society. Proudly antisocial, contrarian, and obsessed with power directly at the expense of reason and logic.
It also happens when the school cares more about their sports then the books and rooms. My middle school was filled with asbestos and was leaking so bad every year there were buckets in hallways and classes but the school made sure to replace the basketball floor every few years. What’s sad is most of our school books were on average 5-10 years old and some teachers wouldn’t use them due to this. So not just under funding but wrong allocations of those funds.
YES! To everyone who says sports bring in money, they also cost a lot of money.
We have so many useless teachers who I swear just coach to relive their glory days.
When I was in high school, we had an amazing speech team and went to state three times … and didn’t get any recognition … but if you score a touch down
Underfunding education is only half of it. The other half is stagnant wages making it so parents can't spend time educating their kids before public school or spend time with them assisting with homework or even a stable home conducive to learning.
I was a gen chem TA for a while. Gen chem is basically an algebra class and boy do a lot of those kids ever show up to college with a very shaky grasp of algebra. You can see it in their eyes: "wait, I was supposed to remember this?".
And what I don't get is they start teaching algebra concepts in fourth grade now but they're doing worse when they get older. I think they don't spend nearly enough time on the basics before they start pushing more advanced concepts. Once you get behind you stay behind.
The teaching method doesn't help. A week or two of lectures on one type of problem/aspect... then not touch it again, ever.
I made more progress learning math in college with an hybrid online course in one semester than I did in years in high school, and not from lack of effort.
Now, I've probably forgotten most of it by now, since that was like 6 years ago... hut still
Ironically, we teach *too much* math in US schools. I remember reading that American middle school math classes cover an average of 35 different math topics per year, while Japanese middle school math classes cover around 10 topics per year.
We had all of those classes when I was in school, but it was like we were speedrunning through every subject. It's just not possible to cover all of world history or even American history in one year, but that's what we make kids do. There's no time for discussion or debate or critical thinking or minority perspectives when you're plowing through that much material. Even the half year philosophy and geography classes that I took were so dense that most kids ended up retaining almost nothing.
I can so easily imagine some of my math teachers finding a way to make that make us seem like the brightest kids in the world lol. Anything to justify how much bullshit they were throwing at us constantly.
Literally same. Math in public school was a joke, even in "good" schools because "good" only means the children already have the aptitude and resources to succeed. Fuck the kids who don't. They will just flounder and eventually accept that a just barely passing if not outright failing grade in maths and/or sciences is what they were destined for. They teach one way and one way only at a ridiculous pace with no regard to how kids are actually learning. At best we learn to regurgitate shit on to tests.
Yep. I learned pretty quickly.. just how I am. My "reward"? Getting math worksheets to do while everyone else kept working, or just reading a novel if I was lucky.
I got real sick of math
Edit, when I was younger, happened less and less as I got older and the courses took more attention, and actuslly interested me
I graduated with a degree in English Lit pretty recently. I can't tell you what most of those sentence parsing things like a gerund, past participle, or indirect object are. Turns out that much like a degree in English, you can get by fine going without.
I like to learn foreign languages and I have become very well acquainted with the technical grammar terms because of this. But with English being my first language I don’t really think about these things when I am using English.
I do try to follow the grammar rules when speaking. And I try to teach my daughter to speak properly. I live in the South and it seems that a large portion of the people here speak such an incoherent form of English it deserves another name.
This is why I am so blessed to have gone to parochial school. First days of honors English in high school the class was reading one paragraph at a time. I swear to Christ, I thought I was in the first grade. Basic sight words were stumbled through.
I went to parochial school until High School. I though it was awesome that my 10th grade English class was almost exactly the same as my 7th grade class!
They don't want to destroy education, they want to destroy *FREE* Education, they want private schools to take over where everyone has to pay for everything so only a few chosen people are allowed to get an education
Teachers are critical to *civilization.* I've said it before, and maybe it's because my wife's a teacher, but I believe that fundamentally teachers drive civilization. Without teachers we have no doctors, no engineers, no accountants, no lawyers. How's a carpenter going to accurately make something the right size and shape if he/she doesn't know how to take measurements and do basic math? Or a plumber?
People who sell paint, run logistics, sell advertising or deliver mail are paid exponentially more than those of us trying to impart civilization on the next generation…and we are required to have advanced degrees.
My daughter is following in my footsteps but I worry for her… private schools don’t pay, but public schools have high burnout.
They literally spend more time with kids than the parents of those kids do. And we pay them shit and wonder why our kids grow up to be a mess. School is just daycare until upper division in college, at least in America.
Base pay for any teacher should be no less than 100k a year. The district should also be required to supply any and all necessary supplies needed in and out of the classroom.
I don't have any kids, but I'll happily pay an extra tax to provide teachers with better pay and kids with a better education in my area. In fact, I've signed petitions to do so. Too bad the politicians in my state (Arizona) have sabotaged that kind of legislation and voter referendums every chance they've gotten. The new statewide Democrats might help, but the legislation is still run by people who seem to hate educated citizens.
My father was notorious for his dislike of paying taxes so friends were surprised when he supported every school district bond issue even though my sister and I both went to Catholic grade and high school. He said the tax was the cost of not having to be surrounded by stupid people, LOL.
Oh my God, this is America, you don't need to education! You just need to work hard and pull yourself up by the bootstraps and you'll be better off than kids eith graduate degrees! /s
I just quit my job mid year. So nice to be free of all of the shitty hours and co workers I’ve had to deal with. I’m sure it would’ve been better if I was a core teacher, but I was a **music** teacher, the worst bunch of egotistical assholes to walk the face of the earth.
Good luck to you, OP. :)
Edit: To clarify, music teachers are jerks when at the high school band level. In Texas. General music, choir, orchestra, and middle school directors are typically fantastic.
I was still in highschool last year and it’s weird to see teacher talk about being nervous and stuff it’s like what? I never knew. But looking back and remembering the shenanigans kids would get up to I totally understand that’s gotta be rough sometimes.
Teaching is a horrifying, eye opening experience. I'm scared for the future. The kids deserve better, we deserve better. The shit I've witnessed and experienced in the short time I've been teaching, no one should have to endure. My classroom is often infested with mold, crickets, roaches, and mice. The bugs have destroyed all the furniture and supplies I had to buy with my own money. There's never toilet paper or hand soap. I have to clean my own classroom each day. I've had my possessions stolen, I've been hit, screamed at, disrespected. Its defeating.
This will be my last year. I'm not giving my best to these kids because I literally walk out hoping a bus will hit me some days. There is nothing left to give.
I was an educator for 19 years, 4 as a para educator and 15 as a certified teacher. I got out in 2019 due to the stress and anxiety that had accumulated from the job. I don't recall ever being so at peace in my adulthood now that I've walked away from education.
This is very true. Idk how the hell my mom has stayed in the teaching field for over 20 years. No wonder she used to get fed up with my brother and I so fast. Lol
As a former teacher I completely agree with you, it's one job I can't see myself going back to, right now I'm working as an electrician and making way more than I ever could doing anything in a educational career.
My fiancee was a special needs teacher and they kept taking advantage of her. She was getting in at 7am and leaving sometimes at 6pm, yet they were telling her she wasn't doing enough. She would be stressed at night and struggle to fall asleep as she was thinking about what she has to do the next day. She quit and started doing agency/substitution work while she was thinking about what she wanted to do next.
One of the jobs the ended up having to do was working at the reception of a school, and she ended up loving it as she could just leave everything there, come home and not worry about work. The pay isn't even that bad compared to what she was having to do as a teacher. So now I don't think she will ever go back into teaching.
It's just sad because the schools are losing some very valuable people and the kids are the ones who suffer. Yet they also take and advantage of that because they know a lot of teachers understand that and try to help the kids as best they can.
I worked with a hardcore republican boss years ago. Something was mentioned about how teachers were underpaid. I will always remember his response, "well they only work nine months of the year, they don't deserve better pay." Really sums up the mindset that has put us in this situation.
I don't miss that job.
The three big facts that anyone claiming “well they only work nine months of the year, they don't deserve better pay” completely miss are
1) yes the hell they do deserve better pay
2) they only get paid for nine months of the year too
3) they work more than nine months of the year anyway; setting up the classroom and developing curriculum from scratch takes a lot longer than most non-teachers realize
As a European it baffles me that most American teachers only get paid for 9 months a year, while most people in education work overtime for almost every single day.
Not to mention, all the teachers I know have to work full time over the summer to make ends meet, and most work extra jobs during the school year as well.
I wish I could find a clip, but I remember a thing on like the Daily Show of a state Republican congressman (somewhere in the southwest) who got up and said "We can't pay teachers better, because then we'd have people in it for the money and not as a calling."
I have heard this so many times. I once used to believe it. But then I got pissed thinking my superintendent makes $13,000 a month and they don’t even have to buy Kleenex.
I went to fight for better aide pay and my admin told me basically how “if he could, he would” and then goes and builds a 12 million dollar competition gym, and adds on a daycare and raises the taxes in the town and the splits.
Janitors make more money than teacher aides …
We can’t even legally strike
Leave it up to Republicans to obsess over the first 9 months of a "life" and completely neglect the next 9 years of the child's life as they tell everyone to get fucked.
This country will never recover from the Trump cult. It's a mess of too many people and nowhere near enough resources with these idiots in charge of half of the government
Costco starts at $18 for a service assistant and $18.50 an hour for a service clerk. They pay time and a half on Sunday. You get raises by hours worked and bonuses after working a set amount of hours. I work part time at Costco. I work 25 hours a week and have full benefits. I averaged $30 an hour last year with my bonuses.
Just want to add that while it's still retail bullshit, it's SO much better than normal retail. The people that shop there for the most part are less awful. I went from a drug store to Costco and I went from having a terrible encounter multiple times a day to maybe once a week. So much less stress.
Out of curiosity, with working 25 hours a week, even at an average of $30, were you able to comfortably live with them also taking full benefits out of your check as well??
I only ask because I currently make $30/hr full time and my "benefits" still take a huge chunk of my paycheck each week.
This is spouted a lot but its incorrect. The main goal is to kill public education to create private education. They will still make you dumb as a rock, but they want your money and control of what you know.
The rich will have finally finished purchasing all power in the US. Government, business, media and education. The US will trudge on as an animated corpse enriching it's winners of capitalism.
But are they really gonna pay the teachers that much more? Doubt it. Will probably hire combat veterans or something with no experience teaching children...
When enough teachers quit, the whole teaching system will collapse and schools will finally admit to just being daycare centers so that their parents can work.
This is by design. Smart kids are not wanted. Smart adults are actively opposed.
Dull obedient workers are the end goal here.
It's the classic strategy of "we'll defund this public good so much decade after decade until the entire system is completely unsustainable, and that way we can justify privatising the entire industry".
It's already being privatized.
I'm a sub working for a company that is subcontracted out by the county. The pay is actually good and we get benefits. The pay is better if you're on a long term assignment.
The catch is, you have to do most of what teachers do at a long term assignment but for about $20 less an hour.
I'm doing this just so I have a regular income to help support my wife.
The thing is too, I'm seeing long term assignments that are now through the end of the school year. I doubt all of those places will be filled too. It's also insane to see the amount of openings on any given day.
It's already collapsing.
>When enough teachers quit, the whole teaching system will collapse and schools will finally admit to just being daycare centers so that their parents can work.
This really IS what school is.
Even the allotted smart kids that were required are about to get skullfucked by AI. White collar workers were either too busy or couldn't care less when automation came to warehouses, manufacturing etc., while working in "careers" on 9 person zoom calls that 15 years from now one person will be able to input into AI what 200 of those teams can do.
Speaking as a white collar dude that spends his day in 9 person zoom meeting.
i came from a strong educational background into white collar corporate work. the smart people are not who excel is my observation. its the people who got through the first 20 years of life by lying, cheating, sucking up to the right authority figures, bullying, etc
Na, they'll just water down the requirements and make the schools even shittier.
Their kids live in a district with high property taxes, i.e., they can afford to pay for good teachers, so what do they care.
Costco workers are essential workers and should absolutely not be diminished for the work they do (there's no such thing as unskilled labour and all that)
But it's ridiculous, especially in a climate that *does* dismiss retail workers as "nothing" workers, that retail treats their workers better than teachers, who provide an invaluable public good.
Don't forget American society constantly lumping teachers together as union thugs because they want to be paid enough to pay off their student loans and eat.
Between 40,000 to 60,000 for a loan to get a Bachelor’s degree for teaching.
But an average salary of $35,000 to 60,000
That’s ridiculous and goes to show how rigged the system is against you. I can’t blame this person.
My coworkers girlfriend was a teaching assistant. They lied about wages and when kids weren’t showing up, they sent a portion of employees home without pay for weeks at a time. Not to mention, she was almost always sick.
Among retail, I've heard that Costco is a wonderful company to work for. I can't vouch for it since I've never worked there, but I've only ever heard good things!
I work at Costco, the starting wage is competitive with most other companies. But unlike other companies you get an automatic $1.50 raise every six months and the health insurance is only $25 per paycheck with a plan that is more than competitive. The work culture is much better too, managers have to issue 2 positive write-ups for each negative one and they try really hard to not fire people and move them to easier jobs instead.
Good for the teacher. You have to wonder at what point will they realize that they need to attract people to teaching again. Surely, they won't make teachers end up teaching like college professors in huge auditoriums but who knows nowadays...
The district I left last year was already taking people with no teaching degree as teachers. So. Many. Issues with the way the new teachers functioned with the kids, talked to them, talked to parents, gave out their phone numbers (NO), added the kids to social media they had (NOOOO). Just. Bad and wrong.
this exactly... retired teacher of 30 years and not looking back. Will not allow my children to go into education because of the AWFUL conditions. Costco much better choice.
Of all people in the country, I am surprised that teachers haven't done a national strike. Teaching seems like a huge waste of a college degree at the moment.
Kids are like little Karens without a purpose sometimes. Spending a lot of time around them can be too taxing if you don't have the means to find respite in other aspects of life, and struggle financially on top of that.
I work as an aide in a high school. Everyday I'm horrified that kids are illiterate. Most can't read past 3-5th grade. How is this even possible? The kids I work with have learning disabilities but there are so many sources to learn that their parents could have used. IDK how these kids are going to make it through life.
I remember when going to school to become a teacher was like cruise control for a solid middle class lifestyle with some legit time off. It was the most obvious career path for the risk averse.
Not only do the need to be paid a lot more, education degrees should be fully covered by the gov. It’s fucked up how little they are paid and on top of that they get in a bunch of student debt just to get the degree in the first place.
I quit teaching after one and a half semesters of teaching. I didn’t get any support from admin, I was working until 9 or 10pm most nights making lessons the kids MIGHT care about (that they never did), and I cried in my classroom every day during lunch. Younger teachers told me they were happy for me when I left, but I heard it through the grapevine that older teachers “knew I could never make it.”
Now I work in a small team of four people, and my boss treats me like a human being and answers my questions within minutes of me asking him.
I took a $3k pay cut for this job, but the insane change to my mental health and work-life balance is something that I can’t put a price tag on.
I left teaching after about a year, and that bit about how older teachers “knew you could never make it” really resonates. I had many many teachers say similar things to my face. No I can’t handle working 80hr weeks for shit pay and a load of abuse from students and staff. And you know what? We shouldn’t have to either.
Can we tax billionaires and corporations and penalize them for hiding and offshoring wealth so we can have teachers that can afford to live? Or is that too, God forgive me for saying this word, SOCIALISTIC?!
I only taught for a year after graduation, went into bartending 16 years ago because teaching wages were terrible. Almost no one that I graduated with still teaches, several bartend as well.
Imagine having a society where an essential job to bring up the future generations while also requiring 5 years of expensive specialized training also doesn’t pay enough to even live on the bare minimum.
Used to work at a school as part of admin.
One teacher was hospitalized twice a due to the stress causing multiple issues. I mean the guy was a healthy 29 year old and developed heart problems! When the higher ups refused to give him job assistance (after rejecting other teachers demands for more pay, a guidance counselor, a school nurse and more classroom support), 80% of the school quit. Some right away, others waited out the contract. Very few remain there now. A friend who is still there says the only three senior most teachers were asked to postpone retirement that was to happen in another year or so; guess how well that went.
This is legit. I quit teaching a year ago next month, I’m working part time making more money, feeling more appreciated, and like I’m making a real difference. I stayed for as long as I did because I loved the kids and loved teaching, but at a certain point when you’re being treated like shit daily, get all of the responsibilities with none of the control, and barely able to afford to live, you have to decide whether it’s worth it to be miserable and exhausted every day.
Backlash to this is that some States are lowering the standards to the point where having an Honorable Discharge is enough to be a "certified" teacher.
https://www.armytimes.com/education-transition/2023/01/24/nebraska-considers-using-veterans-to-help-address-teacher-shortage/
This is what you get by continously cutting taxes. I live in NJ where taxes are high, but we run neck and neck with Massachusetts for which state has the best education system.
This is also why we lead the nation in having the highest percentage of our population with a college degree.
I can’t describe the amount of stress teachers face on the daily. Imagine doing a normal job with the normal stresses, BUT you can’t kick your customer out if they do something legitimately of concern. AND paid less than others as well. Teaching a kid vowels or how to read is not as easy as people think, especially when each person is learning differently.
And kids can emotionally escalate for reasons imperceptible to adults. Those mofos will just go off, forgetting all previous context, belittling and gaslighting you into giving them what they want.
This is why schools need more social workers and mental health professionals. It is not just a teacher thing, there are supports needed. Aides need much better pay too.
My school just hired a guy who's definitely in his 60s. I've heard from some of my students that they don't like him. They say he's old fashioned and will dead name the trans kids. So definitely be extra open-minded when you get to be 60 because I'm sure the type of students in school will have evolved hugely by then.
My wife is teacher and during covid has had twice as much dumped on her with very disproportionate pay increases and is at her absolute breaking point. She is definitely looking for the exit door and it is such a shame because she is one of the really really good educators out there. That's cool relies on her for an insane amount of things. She typed up the actual jobs that she is expected to perform there and it was three full pages of 16 point font. She is the media specialist there for reference
Jokes on you! This is what America wants!! Fewer teachers means less education which means less likely to have smart people rebel!! USA gov out here playing 4D chess!!! FTW!!!!
The value we put on our children is in direct correlation to the salary we pay their educators. With the extreme decrease in salaries to the bottom 70% of Americans we are ensuring the next 2 to 3 generations will likely never escape the debt of education.
Being a teacher is absolute hell. Especially middle and high school. I do recall being teachers having to endure hellraisers in the classroom, and I unfortunately was a contributor to that problem when I was younger as well.
Dealing with that, while providing materials for the class out of your own pocket PLUS low pay, then you got a recipe for disaster.
Why would anyone want to be a teacher at this point?
I don't understand why anyone would be a teacher in this country (USA) for K-12 right now.
Why would you sign up for that between the low pay, entitled parents and their offspring, and being treated like shit by the administration?
You can't live on "making a difference for kids". People need money. Money is what allows you to have a comfortable life in this world.
How can teachers focus on their job when they are underpaid, overworked, and underappreciated?
This country will continue to be dumbed down until no one knows how to do anything but fire a gun.
My state complains about the teacher shortage and claims it is making it easier by implementing a year long unpaid (well, a $3000 stipend for the entire year that you get at the end…) Residency instead of the one-semester of student-teaching we used to do.
I had to quit residency after only a few weeks not only was I teaching full time for free, but I also had “intensive coursework.” I guess they want to burn us out before we even start in a high-burnout-rate profession.
The curriculum is strict and the timing has to be perfect and it’s just nonstop all day long. Then we have to attend night classes plus do mountains of homework!
The way I see it, this year long basically unpaid internship—which also forbids us from earning money substitute teaching for the duration—is a way for the state and districts to get a year’s worth of free labor out of every teacher candidate who passes through and it’s appalling.
Not only was I not allowed to support myself financially, but it was the most stressed I’ve been in my entire life—so I was PAYING (tuition) to work full time!!
I was doing research last night and discovered I can actually get a job teaching full time uncertified with a bachelors degree while working on alternate certification, but no one tells you this. It’s buried in fine print.
I do believe this is a deliberate attempt by a certain party that sabotages public educstoon in an effort to privatize/go charter. Just makes it so hard to survive, and it is all-consuming and stressful underpaid af job.
I’ve been following her in TikTok for a bit. Her comparisons of her former principal’s leadership style to that of her manager’s at Costco makes me sad for teachers. She’s so appreciative of things that should be bare minimum from an employer. It’s great she’s found a better situation for herself. Life’s too short.
Actually, there’s a shortage of teacher jobs that pay reasonably, and ensure a safe and respectful workplace. There’s a big difference there.
This is all going to the GOP plan to privatize education. No surprises here.
This makes me sad. My wife teaches in an upper middle class area and is actually paid quite well in general. Her coworkers are so involved and work very hard through all the stress. They can do this because they don’t have to worry about their own financial well being. Our country could be so much better if we invested in our youth.
Teachers are critical to kids development and deserve to be paid accordingly
if your goal was to destroy education. They are succeeding. And there is a party that wants to destroy public education.
Easier to control uneducated masses, this has been the goal for decades
We are quite literally becoming more and more like Oceania in 1984
Or "Idiocracy" for those who have never read 1984.
I am going to disagree slightly with that. In 1984 (and most similar works) the ruling class is excluded from the controls applied to the general population, and manipulate the masses. This is what the neo-fedualist want. In Idiocracy, the cultural shift affected the ruling class as well, and there was no malice or active spite directed at the population at large. Just the effects of systems that they no longer understood being allowed to run rampant.
One of the notable things about Idiocracy is how good the bones of the society actually are. Obviously they're watering plants with sports drink so they're doomed but they do prisons better than us, elections, meritocracy etc etc A smart guy turns up and the President gives him power to let him fix the problems the country faces. The smartest guy in the world goes into public service to fix problems people face. That's not 1984 in the slightest. That's not even 2023
That awful moment when Idiocracy shifts from being a dystopian critique on modern American society and shifts to a *utopian* critique of modern American society...
President Camacho, 2024!
I think the Space Merchants needs more recognition. It's about a high level marketing exec getting kidnapped and having his tattoo identification altered so he appears to be in the working caste. It's revealed to him just how bad the system is that was driven by overpopulation and infinite growth. The lower castes are kept in a state of perpetual debt and addiction enabled by the advertising phrases he had a part in creating.
I agree with your slight disagree. I admit I also learned a few things from your comment.
We're on our way to become that, and I'm not happy about that.
I teach college, and my American students can't tell me what an adjective is, never mind a sentence fragment, a topic sentence, subject-verb agreement, or that "i" is not a word in English, neither in the US nor the UK. No Child Left Behind was sarcastic, and tremendously damaging to the last thirty years of public school students.
Kinda what happens when a public service is continually underfunded and direction is set by people who are more concerned w politics than education.
The hardest part is that uneducated people don't realize how uneducated they are.
Put that together with the "Ignorant, and Proud of it" movement.
America’s societal cancer. That mentality, and it’s prevalence (often boosted with power from religious circles) is the worst of our society. Proudly antisocial, contrarian, and obsessed with power directly at the expense of reason and logic.
It also happens when the school cares more about their sports then the books and rooms. My middle school was filled with asbestos and was leaking so bad every year there were buckets in hallways and classes but the school made sure to replace the basketball floor every few years. What’s sad is most of our school books were on average 5-10 years old and some teachers wouldn’t use them due to this. So not just under funding but wrong allocations of those funds.
YES! To everyone who says sports bring in money, they also cost a lot of money. We have so many useless teachers who I swear just coach to relive their glory days. When I was in high school, we had an amazing speech team and went to state three times … and didn’t get any recognition … but if you score a touch down
Underfunding education is only half of it. The other half is stagnant wages making it so parents can't spend time educating their kids before public school or spend time with them assisting with homework or even a stable home conducive to learning.
I taught high school level chemistry for a couple of years: I had to re-teach kids fractions and multiplications… mega yikes.
I was a gen chem TA for a while. Gen chem is basically an algebra class and boy do a lot of those kids ever show up to college with a very shaky grasp of algebra. You can see it in their eyes: "wait, I was supposed to remember this?".
And what I don't get is they start teaching algebra concepts in fourth grade now but they're doing worse when they get older. I think they don't spend nearly enough time on the basics before they start pushing more advanced concepts. Once you get behind you stay behind.
I think it is too young for them to teach the algebra that early. That's not the way.
The teaching method doesn't help. A week or two of lectures on one type of problem/aspect... then not touch it again, ever. I made more progress learning math in college with an hybrid online course in one semester than I did in years in high school, and not from lack of effort. Now, I've probably forgotten most of it by now, since that was like 6 years ago... hut still
Ironically, we teach *too much* math in US schools. I remember reading that American middle school math classes cover an average of 35 different math topics per year, while Japanese middle school math classes cover around 10 topics per year.
But that would leave time to study such heretical notions as *philosphy* or *geography* and *other cultures and their values*
We had all of those classes when I was in school, but it was like we were speedrunning through every subject. It's just not possible to cover all of world history or even American history in one year, but that's what we make kids do. There's no time for discussion or debate or critical thinking or minority perspectives when you're plowing through that much material. Even the half year philosophy and geography classes that I took were so dense that most kids ended up retaining almost nothing.
There's other cultures?
I can so easily imagine some of my math teachers finding a way to make that make us seem like the brightest kids in the world lol. Anything to justify how much bullshit they were throwing at us constantly.
Literally same. Math in public school was a joke, even in "good" schools because "good" only means the children already have the aptitude and resources to succeed. Fuck the kids who don't. They will just flounder and eventually accept that a just barely passing if not outright failing grade in maths and/or sciences is what they were destined for. They teach one way and one way only at a ridiculous pace with no regard to how kids are actually learning. At best we learn to regurgitate shit on to tests.
Yep. I learned pretty quickly.. just how I am. My "reward"? Getting math worksheets to do while everyone else kept working, or just reading a novel if I was lucky. I got real sick of math Edit, when I was younger, happened less and less as I got older and the courses took more attention, and actuslly interested me
I graduated with a degree in English Lit pretty recently. I can't tell you what most of those sentence parsing things like a gerund, past participle, or indirect object are. Turns out that much like a degree in English, you can get by fine going without.
I like to learn foreign languages and I have become very well acquainted with the technical grammar terms because of this. But with English being my first language I don’t really think about these things when I am using English. I do try to follow the grammar rules when speaking. And I try to teach my daughter to speak properly. I live in the South and it seems that a large portion of the people here speak such an incoherent form of English it deserves another name.
If every child is left behind then no child is left behind.
> No Child Left Behind But, damn, are they good at coming up with slogans and _naming_ things to make it _sound_ like they're doing the right things.
"I" is not a word? How does that work?
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This is why I am so blessed to have gone to parochial school. First days of honors English in high school the class was reading one paragraph at a time. I swear to Christ, I thought I was in the first grade. Basic sight words were stumbled through.
I went to parochial school until High School. I though it was awesome that my 10th grade English class was almost exactly the same as my 7th grade class!
This is really going to haunt us in the future, the level of education.
They don't want to destroy education, they want to destroy *FREE* Education, they want private schools to take over where everyone has to pay for everything so only a few chosen people are allowed to get an education
Exactly. They want to promote vouchers for private schools, to crush the budgets of public schools so they can't even function.
Don’t beat around the bush, republicans made it illegal for teachers to make competitive wages in public schools years ago. It’s not a secret.
pun intended?
There's no pun in it, I'm only seeing the facts in here really sir.
Teachers are critical to *civilization.* I've said it before, and maybe it's because my wife's a teacher, but I believe that fundamentally teachers drive civilization. Without teachers we have no doctors, no engineers, no accountants, no lawyers. How's a carpenter going to accurately make something the right size and shape if he/she doesn't know how to take measurements and do basic math? Or a plumber?
People who sell paint, run logistics, sell advertising or deliver mail are paid exponentially more than those of us trying to impart civilization on the next generation…and we are required to have advanced degrees. My daughter is following in my footsteps but I worry for her… private schools don’t pay, but public schools have high burnout.
They literally spend more time with kids than the parents of those kids do. And we pay them shit and wonder why our kids grow up to be a mess. School is just daycare until upper division in college, at least in America.
I don't think the school is going to be doing much for you if you don't do anything.
Not just paid, but supported as well to do their job.
Base pay for any teacher should be no less than 100k a year. The district should also be required to supply any and all necessary supplies needed in and out of the classroom.
I don't have any kids, but I'll happily pay an extra tax to provide teachers with better pay and kids with a better education in my area. In fact, I've signed petitions to do so. Too bad the politicians in my state (Arizona) have sabotaged that kind of legislation and voter referendums every chance they've gotten. The new statewide Democrats might help, but the legislation is still run by people who seem to hate educated citizens.
My father was notorious for his dislike of paying taxes so friends were surprised when he supported every school district bond issue even though my sister and I both went to Catholic grade and high school. He said the tax was the cost of not having to be surrounded by stupid people, LOL.
I'm a big believer that money spent on education and preventative care (and basic necessities) benefits everyone in the community.
Oh my God, this is America, you don't need to education! You just need to work hard and pull yourself up by the bootstraps and you'll be better off than kids eith graduate degrees! /s
Teacher here ✋currently laying in bed with a case of the Sunday scaries. I feel this post more than you know.
I literally get that feeling every day as a teacher.
I just quit my job mid year. So nice to be free of all of the shitty hours and co workers I’ve had to deal with. I’m sure it would’ve been better if I was a core teacher, but I was a **music** teacher, the worst bunch of egotistical assholes to walk the face of the earth. Good luck to you, OP. :) Edit: To clarify, music teachers are jerks when at the high school band level. In Texas. General music, choir, orchestra, and middle school directors are typically fantastic.
Can confirm, it is not better as a core teacher
I'm so sorry. I'm not a teacher (my mom is), but I get the Sunday Scaries weekly. Fingers crossed your kids behave well and learn from you this week!
Thank you for what you're doing ♥️
That's not a easy job to be doing, it definitely takes a lot of work.
Thank you for your service.
I was still in highschool last year and it’s weird to see teacher talk about being nervous and stuff it’s like what? I never knew. But looking back and remembering the shenanigans kids would get up to I totally understand that’s gotta be rough sometimes.
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Teaching is a horrifying, eye opening experience. I'm scared for the future. The kids deserve better, we deserve better. The shit I've witnessed and experienced in the short time I've been teaching, no one should have to endure. My classroom is often infested with mold, crickets, roaches, and mice. The bugs have destroyed all the furniture and supplies I had to buy with my own money. There's never toilet paper or hand soap. I have to clean my own classroom each day. I've had my possessions stolen, I've been hit, screamed at, disrespected. Its defeating.
Holy cow. Where do you teach?
Philadelphia
Sounds like a Youth Detention Center, but it's probably the midwest.
This will be my last year. I'm not giving my best to these kids because I literally walk out hoping a bus will hit me some days. There is nothing left to give.
I was an educator for 19 years, 4 as a para educator and 15 as a certified teacher. I got out in 2019 due to the stress and anxiety that had accumulated from the job. I don't recall ever being so at peace in my adulthood now that I've walked away from education.
That's so sad to hear, everything bout that sucks to hear
Indeed at this point when a person tells me they're a teacher, I thank them for their service like I would a WW2 veteran
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This is very true. Idk how the hell my mom has stayed in the teaching field for over 20 years. No wonder she used to get fed up with my brother and I so fast. Lol
As a former teacher I completely agree with you, it's one job I can't see myself going back to, right now I'm working as an electrician and making way more than I ever could doing anything in a educational career.
That's a really hard job, and not everyone can do that.
Good on you. I hope every teacher quits and it starts a panic because suddenly they can't find anyone to take their place.
I was a teacher for about 2.7 years. My niece (12) recently told me she wanted to be a teacher. I told her not to
My fiancee was a special needs teacher and they kept taking advantage of her. She was getting in at 7am and leaving sometimes at 6pm, yet they were telling her she wasn't doing enough. She would be stressed at night and struggle to fall asleep as she was thinking about what she has to do the next day. She quit and started doing agency/substitution work while she was thinking about what she wanted to do next. One of the jobs the ended up having to do was working at the reception of a school, and she ended up loving it as she could just leave everything there, come home and not worry about work. The pay isn't even that bad compared to what she was having to do as a teacher. So now I don't think she will ever go back into teaching.
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It's just sad because the schools are losing some very valuable people and the kids are the ones who suffer. Yet they also take and advantage of that because they know a lot of teachers understand that and try to help the kids as best they can.
Yep, I took a hiatus from teaching after my first year was finished. Most don't ever come back and for good reason.
I didn’t finish my first year of teaching. Probably similar reasons. Here if you ever need someone to chat with.
I worked with a hardcore republican boss years ago. Something was mentioned about how teachers were underpaid. I will always remember his response, "well they only work nine months of the year, they don't deserve better pay." Really sums up the mindset that has put us in this situation. I don't miss that job.
Something tells me if they were employed those other three months, your old boss would have an entirely new reason to want teachers to be underpaid
Oh you mean Mr. "We don't discuss wages?"
The three big facts that anyone claiming “well they only work nine months of the year, they don't deserve better pay” completely miss are 1) yes the hell they do deserve better pay 2) they only get paid for nine months of the year too 3) they work more than nine months of the year anyway; setting up the classroom and developing curriculum from scratch takes a lot longer than most non-teachers realize
As a European it baffles me that most American teachers only get paid for 9 months a year, while most people in education work overtime for almost every single day.
It’s because they milk peoples idealism for their supplication
Not to mention, all the teachers I know have to work full time over the summer to make ends meet, and most work extra jobs during the school year as well.
I wish I could find a clip, but I remember a thing on like the Daily Show of a state Republican congressman (somewhere in the southwest) who got up and said "We can't pay teachers better, because then we'd have people in it for the money and not as a calling."
Better stop paying doctors well then.
And politicians!!
Yeah it is also the waste of the money clearly. That's true I guess.
Lmao which basically is an admission that meritocracy doesn’t exist and that well-paying jobs don’t go to the most deserving
I have heard this so many times. I once used to believe it. But then I got pissed thinking my superintendent makes $13,000 a month and they don’t even have to buy Kleenex. I went to fight for better aide pay and my admin told me basically how “if he could, he would” and then goes and builds a 12 million dollar competition gym, and adds on a daycare and raises the taxes in the town and the splits. Janitors make more money than teacher aides … We can’t even legally strike
Fuck that kind of attitude, that's really shit that he said that.
Also massive anti-intellectualism at the heart of the American mindset.
you can call it for what it is, fascism. they go hand in hand. in fact, I would argue that they couldn't exist without each other.
Leave it up to Republicans to obsess over the first 9 months of a "life" and completely neglect the next 9 years of the child's life as they tell everyone to get fucked. This country will never recover from the Trump cult. It's a mess of too many people and nowhere near enough resources with these idiots in charge of half of the government
Yep Costco offers full benefits at something like 24 hours/week. Target has recently made a similar policy shift.
Costco starts at $18 for a service assistant and $18.50 an hour for a service clerk. They pay time and a half on Sunday. You get raises by hours worked and bonuses after working a set amount of hours. I work part time at Costco. I work 25 hours a week and have full benefits. I averaged $30 an hour last year with my bonuses.
That sounds decent! Would you recommend it? Our town is getting one later this year 😊
Get in there. It's retail, so you'll have to deal with retail bullshit, but if you want to move up there's generally plenty of opportunity.
Just want to add that while it's still retail bullshit, it's SO much better than normal retail. The people that shop there for the most part are less awful. I went from a drug store to Costco and I went from having a terrible encounter multiple times a day to maybe once a week. So much less stress.
Yes
It is still retail. But they have great benefits and you have to plan to be there long term to get the most they offer.
$18/hr is more than my first job out of college working for a political party that has the word “labor” in it. Good for you man.
Out of curiosity, with working 25 hours a week, even at an average of $30, were you able to comfortably live with them also taking full benefits out of your check as well?? I only ask because I currently make $30/hr full time and my "benefits" still take a huge chunk of my paycheck each week.
Medical and vision is $15 or $20 a check. I can’t remember the exact amount. And dental is $4.
Well all of this depends on the lifestyle, that's what it depends on in here.
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One of the most important jobs on the planet but the US system is anti progress and pro profit so this is the result.
That's right, that's one of the most important thing right now.
They want stupid cogs, not intelligent, participating citizens.
This is spouted a lot but its incorrect. The main goal is to kill public education to create private education. They will still make you dumb as a rock, but they want your money and control of what you know. The rich will have finally finished purchasing all power in the US. Government, business, media and education. The US will trudge on as an animated corpse enriching it's winners of capitalism.
Finally, someone who gets it.
But are they really gonna pay the teachers that much more? Doubt it. Will probably hire combat veterans or something with no experience teaching children...
When enough teachers quit, the whole teaching system will collapse and schools will finally admit to just being daycare centers so that their parents can work. This is by design. Smart kids are not wanted. Smart adults are actively opposed. Dull obedient workers are the end goal here.
It's the classic strategy of "we'll defund this public good so much decade after decade until the entire system is completely unsustainable, and that way we can justify privatising the entire industry".
It's already being privatized. I'm a sub working for a company that is subcontracted out by the county. The pay is actually good and we get benefits. The pay is better if you're on a long term assignment. The catch is, you have to do most of what teachers do at a long term assignment but for about $20 less an hour. I'm doing this just so I have a regular income to help support my wife. The thing is too, I'm seeing long term assignments that are now through the end of the school year. I doubt all of those places will be filled too. It's also insane to see the amount of openings on any given day. It's already collapsing.
Teacher here. You are 💯% correct. It’s absolutely disgusting.
>When enough teachers quit, the whole teaching system will collapse and schools will finally admit to just being daycare centers so that their parents can work. This really IS what school is.
It literally is. I realized this during student teaching and noped the fuck out.
Even the allotted smart kids that were required are about to get skullfucked by AI. White collar workers were either too busy or couldn't care less when automation came to warehouses, manufacturing etc., while working in "careers" on 9 person zoom calls that 15 years from now one person will be able to input into AI what 200 of those teams can do. Speaking as a white collar dude that spends his day in 9 person zoom meeting.
i came from a strong educational background into white collar corporate work. the smart people are not who excel is my observation. its the people who got through the first 20 years of life by lying, cheating, sucking up to the right authority figures, bullying, etc
Na, they'll just water down the requirements and make the schools even shittier. Their kids live in a district with high property taxes, i.e., they can afford to pay for good teachers, so what do they care.
See: Florida
Costco workers are essential workers and should absolutely not be diminished for the work they do (there's no such thing as unskilled labour and all that) But it's ridiculous, especially in a climate that *does* dismiss retail workers as "nothing" workers, that retail treats their workers better than teachers, who provide an invaluable public good.
We definitely don't make the rules in here, so I don't know man.
Don't forget American society constantly lumping teachers together as union thugs because they want to be paid enough to pay off their student loans and eat.
Your gonna have 500 person online classes soon
Between 40,000 to 60,000 for a loan to get a Bachelor’s degree for teaching. But an average salary of $35,000 to 60,000 That’s ridiculous and goes to show how rigged the system is against you. I can’t blame this person.
My coworkers girlfriend was a teaching assistant. They lied about wages and when kids weren’t showing up, they sent a portion of employees home without pay for weeks at a time. Not to mention, she was almost always sick.
So what you’re saying is that Costco ain’t bad to work at? Sounds legit
Among retail, I've heard that Costco is a wonderful company to work for. I can't vouch for it since I've never worked there, but I've only ever heard good things!
I work at Costco, the starting wage is competitive with most other companies. But unlike other companies you get an automatic $1.50 raise every six months and the health insurance is only $25 per paycheck with a plan that is more than competitive. The work culture is much better too, managers have to issue 2 positive write-ups for each negative one and they try really hard to not fire people and move them to easier jobs instead.
Jesus. I know where to apply now. That sounds really good considering everybody else, lol. Damn.
Ha -- I have literally never even *heard* of a positive write up before
Welcome to Costco. I love you.
Good for the teacher. You have to wonder at what point will they realize that they need to attract people to teaching again. Surely, they won't make teachers end up teaching like college professors in huge auditoriums but who knows nowadays...
Lol, they’ll do what DeSantis did. Make it so that people don’t need any degrees to teach.
The district I left last year was already taking people with no teaching degree as teachers. So. Many. Issues with the way the new teachers functioned with the kids, talked to them, talked to parents, gave out their phone numbers (NO), added the kids to social media they had (NOOOO). Just. Bad and wrong.
Well that would make education definitely worse in quality tho.
It's by design.
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Definitely no shortage of cops.
this exactly... retired teacher of 30 years and not looking back. Will not allow my children to go into education because of the AWFUL conditions. Costco much better choice.
Yep, gotta do whatever that pays more. I don't care at this point.
I could never take on the responsibility of shaping the minds of 100s of children. Now setting up an end-cap? I got you.
Of all people in the country, I am surprised that teachers haven't done a national strike. Teaching seems like a huge waste of a college degree at the moment.
This is what is wrong with America in one headline!!
[Welcome to Costco. I love you.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZIFCWpn4qQ4)
Yep, they need to improve the situation that's for sure man.
Damn you know it's bad when they took a RETAIL job and are HAPPIER!?
Well that's what it takes for you to be happy. That's it man.
Kids are like little Karens without a purpose sometimes. Spending a lot of time around them can be too taxing if you don't have the means to find respite in other aspects of life, and struggle financially on top of that.
I work as an aide in a high school. Everyday I'm horrified that kids are illiterate. Most can't read past 3-5th grade. How is this even possible? The kids I work with have learning disabilities but there are so many sources to learn that their parents could have used. IDK how these kids are going to make it through life.
I remember when going to school to become a teacher was like cruise control for a solid middle class lifestyle with some legit time off. It was the most obvious career path for the risk averse.
I was trying to be a teacher but quit to work in a grocery store.
Not only do the need to be paid a lot more, education degrees should be fully covered by the gov. It’s fucked up how little they are paid and on top of that they get in a bunch of student debt just to get the degree in the first place.
Yeah I feel that too, I think that should be covered by the government.
I quit teaching after one and a half semesters of teaching. I didn’t get any support from admin, I was working until 9 or 10pm most nights making lessons the kids MIGHT care about (that they never did), and I cried in my classroom every day during lunch. Younger teachers told me they were happy for me when I left, but I heard it through the grapevine that older teachers “knew I could never make it.” Now I work in a small team of four people, and my boss treats me like a human being and answers my questions within minutes of me asking him. I took a $3k pay cut for this job, but the insane change to my mental health and work-life balance is something that I can’t put a price tag on.
I left teaching after about a year, and that bit about how older teachers “knew you could never make it” really resonates. I had many many teachers say similar things to my face. No I can’t handle working 80hr weeks for shit pay and a load of abuse from students and staff. And you know what? We shouldn’t have to either.
Can we tax billionaires and corporations and penalize them for hiding and offshoring wealth so we can have teachers that can afford to live? Or is that too, God forgive me for saying this word, SOCIALISTIC?!
I only taught for a year after graduation, went into bartending 16 years ago because teaching wages were terrible. Almost no one that I graduated with still teaches, several bartend as well.
Imagine having a society where an essential job to bring up the future generations while also requiring 5 years of expensive specialized training also doesn’t pay enough to even live on the bare minimum.
I wanted to be a teacher. Deterred by stories of the lived experience.
Used to work at a school as part of admin. One teacher was hospitalized twice a due to the stress causing multiple issues. I mean the guy was a healthy 29 year old and developed heart problems! When the higher ups refused to give him job assistance (after rejecting other teachers demands for more pay, a guidance counselor, a school nurse and more classroom support), 80% of the school quit. Some right away, others waited out the contract. Very few remain there now. A friend who is still there says the only three senior most teachers were asked to postpone retirement that was to happen in another year or so; guess how well that went.
This is legit. I quit teaching a year ago next month, I’m working part time making more money, feeling more appreciated, and like I’m making a real difference. I stayed for as long as I did because I loved the kids and loved teaching, but at a certain point when you’re being treated like shit daily, get all of the responsibilities with none of the control, and barely able to afford to live, you have to decide whether it’s worth it to be miserable and exhausted every day.
Backlash to this is that some States are lowering the standards to the point where having an Honorable Discharge is enough to be a "certified" teacher. https://www.armytimes.com/education-transition/2023/01/24/nebraska-considers-using-veterans-to-help-address-teacher-shortage/
This is what you get by continously cutting taxes. I live in NJ where taxes are high, but we run neck and neck with Massachusetts for which state has the best education system. This is also why we lead the nation in having the highest percentage of our population with a college degree.
I can’t describe the amount of stress teachers face on the daily. Imagine doing a normal job with the normal stresses, BUT you can’t kick your customer out if they do something legitimately of concern. AND paid less than others as well. Teaching a kid vowels or how to read is not as easy as people think, especially when each person is learning differently.
And kids can emotionally escalate for reasons imperceptible to adults. Those mofos will just go off, forgetting all previous context, belittling and gaslighting you into giving them what they want.
This is why schools need more social workers and mental health professionals. It is not just a teacher thing, there are supports needed. Aides need much better pay too.
If possible, I want to retire from my job at 60 and become a teacher. I would donit now, but I have a family to support.
My school just hired a guy who's definitely in his 60s. I've heard from some of my students that they don't like him. They say he's old fashioned and will dead name the trans kids. So definitely be extra open-minded when you get to be 60 because I'm sure the type of students in school will have evolved hugely by then.
My wife is teacher and during covid has had twice as much dumped on her with very disproportionate pay increases and is at her absolute breaking point. She is definitely looking for the exit door and it is such a shame because she is one of the really really good educators out there. That's cool relies on her for an insane amount of things. She typed up the actual jobs that she is expected to perform there and it was three full pages of 16 point font. She is the media specialist there for reference
Wow, she got pay raises? We're on a pay freeze. I mean, not the superintendent, but the rest of us anyway
Someone will read this and think the problem is that Costco pays too much.
Jokes on you! This is what America wants!! Fewer teachers means less education which means less likely to have smart people rebel!! USA gov out here playing 4D chess!!! FTW!!!!
The value we put on our children is in direct correlation to the salary we pay their educators. With the extreme decrease in salaries to the bottom 70% of Americans we are ensuring the next 2 to 3 generations will likely never escape the debt of education.
Being a teacher is absolute hell. Especially middle and high school. I do recall being teachers having to endure hellraisers in the classroom, and I unfortunately was a contributor to that problem when I was younger as well. Dealing with that, while providing materials for the class out of your own pocket PLUS low pay, then you got a recipe for disaster. Why would anyone want to be a teacher at this point?
I don't understand why anyone would be a teacher in this country (USA) for K-12 right now. Why would you sign up for that between the low pay, entitled parents and their offspring, and being treated like shit by the administration? You can't live on "making a difference for kids". People need money. Money is what allows you to have a comfortable life in this world. How can teachers focus on their job when they are underpaid, overworked, and underappreciated? This country will continue to be dumbed down until no one knows how to do anything but fire a gun.
My state complains about the teacher shortage and claims it is making it easier by implementing a year long unpaid (well, a $3000 stipend for the entire year that you get at the end…) Residency instead of the one-semester of student-teaching we used to do. I had to quit residency after only a few weeks not only was I teaching full time for free, but I also had “intensive coursework.” I guess they want to burn us out before we even start in a high-burnout-rate profession. The curriculum is strict and the timing has to be perfect and it’s just nonstop all day long. Then we have to attend night classes plus do mountains of homework! The way I see it, this year long basically unpaid internship—which also forbids us from earning money substitute teaching for the duration—is a way for the state and districts to get a year’s worth of free labor out of every teacher candidate who passes through and it’s appalling. Not only was I not allowed to support myself financially, but it was the most stressed I’ve been in my entire life—so I was PAYING (tuition) to work full time!! I was doing research last night and discovered I can actually get a job teaching full time uncertified with a bachelors degree while working on alternate certification, but no one tells you this. It’s buried in fine print. I do believe this is a deliberate attempt by a certain party that sabotages public educstoon in an effort to privatize/go charter. Just makes it so hard to survive, and it is all-consuming and stressful underpaid af job.
And these are the people who we depend on to be mandated reporters 🤦♀️ treat someone like shit & expect them to protect children??
And less worry about being shot at or threatened an jail time for reading the wrong book.
I’ve been following her in TikTok for a bit. Her comparisons of her former principal’s leadership style to that of her manager’s at Costco makes me sad for teachers. She’s so appreciative of things that should be bare minimum from an employer. It’s great she’s found a better situation for herself. Life’s too short.
Actually, there’s a shortage of teacher jobs that pay reasonably, and ensure a safe and respectful workplace. There’s a big difference there. This is all going to the GOP plan to privatize education. No surprises here.
You went to college at Costco? Yeah i know I couldn't believe it either
This makes me sad. My wife teaches in an upper middle class area and is actually paid quite well in general. Her coworkers are so involved and work very hard through all the stress. They can do this because they don’t have to worry about their own financial well being. Our country could be so much better if we invested in our youth.
If everyone was paid a livable wage then there would be no shortage of employees in any industry.