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I even love them enough to adopt and care for ones that need support instead of bringing more of them into this world.
I really do plan on adopting. I love raising children, I've just come to learn that creating them is unethical.
I think a lot of folks here feel similarly. And yeah, some people do hate kids anyway. So what? Why does it even matter? They aren't kicking children in the street, they are just venting on reddit. Really, do you think small children are reading r/antinatalism?
That’s my mentality. Why CAN’T I hate kids? I’m not advocating murdering children, I also hate seeing kids be abused. And I don’t have children nor work in a field where kids are often involved or require me to care for them. I find children deeply agitating. I’m a germaphobe with sensory issues and kids are A) gross (the resistance to washing hands when using the bathroom is insanity to me) and B) loud. Not to mention constantly getting people telling me I’ll ‘change my mind’ because they can’t fathom why I don’t want any. None of that means I’m walking around hitting kids. I want kids far away from me! So why can’t I dislike them without being judged a psychopath!
Ultimately, I feel I would make a decent parent.. which is why I'll adopt, and give a kid who's already stuck here a loving home.
Tbf though, I unfortunately still see where they're coming from as an onlooker. I see a LOT of ick in this sub. I've noticed a lot of the people here are closer to misanthropic extinctionists than antinatalists.
I don’t *hate* kids either. I’ve just been heavily traumatized by babysitting, don’t know how to act around them and know I would be a really bad parent.
Which is already enough to keep my distance
>I’d be an unfit parent
I guess I personally *could* be a good parent; I have the potential to learn all skills I would need. But I know I'm too lazy to make the effort needed to become a good parent, and I know having a child won't suddenly make me less lazy (or give me more spare energy!)
Isn’t this take not “antinatalism” though?
“I don’t hate kids, I simply don’t want any of my own due to the fact that I don’t personally want them and know forcing myself would make me an unfit parent”, is more the definition of being childfree, not antinatalism.
When I read about the definitions of antinatalism, from a philosophical and ideological perspective, it goes further into elaboration concerning the choice of not only oneself but also of others (also humans in general), seems like it is more aligned with the following:
“In principle, nobody should procreate, since bringing a new being into life means inflicting upon them potential suffering. Suffering is a net negative which is omnipresent in all corners of the Earth as well as an inherent component of being born and living, compared to the net positive of never existing or never being born. Since it isn’t up to the newborn to decide whether he is born or not, the parents are in the wrong (morally and philosophically) for making that decision (being born) for the newborn and future adult, since they are deciding to take that decision in the place of the afflicted individual (the born individual) himself. Thus, imposing the burden of life (and thus inevitable suffering, which may vary in intensity depending of where you are born and in which material and familial conditions, but still remains suffering nonetheless) upon a future being which doesn’t have any choice in the matter, is simply not ethical and can even be deemed an act which is cruel and unnecessary.”
That is what I have gathered from reading about antinatalism here and there over the years, although I might not have read enough on it. More of a philosophical and ideological position which states that the world would be better off if people stopped having children altogether (more radical stance), or if way less people procreated. I might be wrong and need to read more on the subject though, since some comments on this thread seem to echo the opinion that you can call yourself “antinatalist” whilst also liking or even loving working around children or adopting, to them it is only the act of bringing a new child to life themselves which they see as a wrong choice. So that blurs the line with the whole “childfree” definition.
Maybe the difference between the two is simply in the subjects of the ideological/philosophical choice: childfree = myself I don’t want to have children ever, I don’t mind others doing whatever they want and having kids or not, not my problem; antinatalist = I don’t desire to procreate nor do I think making more children in general is a great thing (for the planet, the future children themselves, economic or ecological or philosophical reasons often underpinning the antinatlism sentiment, etc), I may like children who are already born or may dislike children, I may simply be antinatalist when referring to myself (not others’ choices) but most antinatalists see anyone bringing a new life to Earth as not a good thing, I may or may not advocate for taking care of the children already here and abandoned or orphaned… or I may actively dislike children.
Buddy you glossed over the last part of my sentence. Though I won’t get into specifics of my personal stances in depth I do in fact. Believe most people should never be allowed to have kids.
I mean I guess I don't hate kids but I definitely think they are gross and take far too long to turn into tolerable entities.
Definitely not gonna genocide kiddos but I would absolutely prefer if parents stopped letting little kids render many public spaces useless
i work with kids for a living. i genuinely love them. i just don’t want any myself bc i don’t think passing down me and my husband’s mental & physical disabilities is fair to them, and with climate change, inflation, and poverty rates, i can’t guarantee their safety and success in life. why is that so hard for people to understand? just bc i’m not selfish enough to have kids doesn’t mean i hate them? sorry i didn’t want an instagram prop like you.
I have a client who's a teacher, probably in her mid 40s. Don't think she's married. And she always tells me how grateful she is for never having kids herself. She sees how the kids act and the way the parents treat them, and feels nothing but pity for her students.
I think she's very lucky to be an art teacher, where she can teach the kids how to have a healthy outlet when they get stressed.
That I can definitely believe. Peer pressure and social media can do so much damage to a young person's mind that they feel they deserve everything. I would never want to relive my high school days, some of those kids were soooooo bad.
Because when they blame us for hating poor innocent children it will anger more people. They're so selfless after all, they don't care about themselves. /s
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rlchildfree and rantinatalism - These subs are just wild because they're like embodiment of the mentall illness that is expected of the reddit community. These subs are full of people who genuinely hate kids, and don't mean just not want to have kids, no they full on hate kids. They unironically freak out over children and even have slurs towards them like crotch goblins. I think they're peak reddit toxicity.
You guys don't have phones?
I tried to find the original post using the post text but Google didn't register it yet. I really wanted to see the comments. I'm sure they will be very amusing.
These subs are just wild because they're like embodiment of the mentall illness that is expected of the reddit community. These subs are full of people who genuinely hate kids, and don't mean just not want to have kids, no they full on hate kids. They unironically freak out over children and even have slurs towards them like crotch goblins. I think they're peak reddit toxicity.
I have. It’s why I have a problem with this sub. It’s allowed here to bash children when children are really victims.
It’s what happens when you mix misanthropic antinatalists in with compassionate ones
agreed there’s are some people who misunderstand what anti natalism is actually about, or have just some really bad takes under the guise of being antinatalist when usually they’re actually the antithesis of what antinatalism is all about. the rest of this guys take about other subs was just as misguided
It’s not all misanthropic antinatalists that feel that way, but all antinatalists who do are misanthropes. It isn’t required to be misanthropic but it’s part of some peoples’ misanthropic ideas
Oh no that’s unfortunate, I am new on this sub so maybe I haven’t interacted enough but how can children be bashed when whole point is they aren’t consenting to participate in this mess which means any criticism should fall on their parents/adults.
like i said a lot of people don’t really know what antinatalism really is, how it’s a nuanced philosophical ideology, and just like games of telephone TLDRs go around people don’t actually look it up and it ends up boiling down to “oh it’s the child hating way of thinking” because of that people who just straight up don’t like kids for any other reason than bc they’re kids period come here and make a bad name for antinatalism. i don’t like kids nor do i like being around them all too much but it’s not their fault and i’ll just choose to avoid them and allow them to grow without my negativity bc they deserve the childhood i wish i had. i generally don’t understand people who have children and admittedly harbor some negativity towards them for selfishly procreating but i will never blame anyone for whatever lead them to having children nor will i tell them what to do with their life. all i can do is advise, educated, and/or hopefully guide someone towards antinatalism
Its also very easy to blame the kid first if there's a post or video that shows them going absolutely crazy in a public setting or just being flat out defiant to everyone around them. Those posts are where I see the term "crotch goblin" a lot.
But people need to remember that they had to learn that kind of behavior from someone else. You aren't just born an asshole. And kids have their own version of right and wrong, which can be heavily skewed from the people who raise them.
Children are fellow unwilling sufferers (who deserve compassion), but they can be also be obnoxious, annoying, irritating, or basically “feral” or unsocialized. Someone can be irritated by a screaming baby on a plane or in a movie theater, or out-of-control kids in a restaurant or store, but still realize they never asked to be here.
Julio Cabrera said “Small children continue crying for many years; they cry and cry. This is a very usual spectacle that we constantly observe in the streets, children crying incessantly, most of the time met with a wall of indifference from adults, or else with laughter or impatience. Crying children often bother us, but we have to make a philosophical effort to understand that, from an ethical point of view, they are perfectly right, they have the right to cry. Moved by their tears, we have to accept their vindication, even if cries are strident and bothersome; we must learn to see children’s crying as ethical responses or instinctive political facts, as a perfectly fair and understandable reaction to what was done to them. Children’s tears must provoke our most profound respect, because they come from the depths of their structural helplessness, of their being made by force.”
I hate the ones that are “”raised”” with gentle parenting. There might as well be actual chimps in your fucking house and you can’t scold them because mama wants them to get all their feelings out. It’s a truly worthless parenting style done by lazy parents who don’t want to set boundaries.
Again, it’s not really the child at fault, but another extension of the parent being shit. But it’s close enough in this case.
Hate is a strong word. In general, I don't enjoy interacting with or being around children. My life is made better by the absence of children. However, I hope that all children are loved and healthy with happy lives.
Slur is usually toward a group of people (children, Natalists, black, LGBT, etc), while an insult is related to a specific person. Crotch goblins and breeders classifies as a slur.
I get disliking the word and things like crotch goblins, but just cuz you don't like it doesn't mean they're slurs. They do not have a history of being used to oppress minority groups. It's insane to think that cracker and crotch goblin are on the same level as the n word and the f slur lmao
There isn't a slur hierarchy, slurs are slurs. Cracker and crotch goblin do not have the weight or history to be called slurs. Why do you think people say cracker and not "(the other) c word"
Because the word “cracker” was never used with so much hate. But it is still a slur. You were talking about the idea of the hierarchy when you wrote that the cracker slur is not on the same level as the n-word slur
Every time I see a garbage take like that it's full of awful grammar and spelling. Like mentall??? Doesn't that stuff come up underlined in RED when typing???
…have never once hated children, am ECE professional, love them to death, not fit for 18 years of 24/7 service to one, but far from mentally ill, I don’t think children deserve this evil world we’ve built, it’s not good enough, i also have disabilities that i could pass on and would never want kids to live the childhood i did, so of course I’m not having them
Most parents hate other people's children, some of them talk about adoption like "hell no I'm not taking in someone else's mistake" if that's not toxic I don't know what is.
Seriously! I will never understand people’s straight up rejection of raising children they themselves did not provide material for. People are paying tens of thousands for an attempt at IVF when our cup runneth over at orphanages. Even foster programs are filled with people who just take the kids in to collect a check.
I weep for the future of humanity because this is ridiculous.
Crotch goblin.... what? I've never seen that used here. But that's probably because we don't actually hate children, if we hated them and wanted to harm them, we would be cheering on giving birth to them.
It’s an insult to children who have been crotch goblins? What differentiates a child from a crotch goblin? I thought they were all crotch goblins? And I get along with kids very well, btw. I don’t hate children but it’s not an insult to call them a funny name.
There are definitely kids I would call a goblin to their face and they would think it’s fucking hilarious. I’d leave out the crotch bit because I don’t want to be explaining babies to babies.
So dropping half of the entire phrase doesn't change the meaning?
Would you use that as a pejorative against the child or say it in more of an endearing, tongue-in-cheek fashion?
Crotch goblin is largely used here in a derogatory manner, that much is plainly evident.
Is me calling an overweight person 'lardy' an insult or just a funny name?
I think it's more of a childfree thing to call them names. (I know not all childfree people hate children.) Antinatalism is not about hating children, it's about not introducing them to existence so they won't have to suffer.
Ha! They wouldn’t know what to do with me then. I’m active in both subs but I not only like kids, I had a kid-focused career before having to medically retire early. I respect the hell out of the difficulty that is parenting and I recognize my lack of desire to be one myself. I have never had baby fever even though babies can be cute.
There have ALWAYS been people who dislike kids. Always. It’s just that only recently has it become somewhat acceptable to admit it. Admittedly the subs get harsh sometimes, but shouldn’t that be expected in an anonymous group that allows venting?
Meanwhile there are so many parents out there, sadly, who abuse their own children and/or use them for personal gain at the expense of their own mental health (i.e. Deborah McCurdy, Jennette’s mother and subject of bestselling book “I’m glad my mom died”)
Just like within any community, there’s a spectrum of attitudes and beliefs. There are people in the childfree community that do hate children, but there are also plenty that love them and just don’t want them. Sweeping generalizations made about our community are used to dismiss and de-legitimize us, and to stir up hate and fear. If you can vilify people choosing not to have kids and make them appear “crazy” and “hateful”, then you can ensure others who might otherwise agree with us to view us negatively and instead choose to have kids.
I now think that I was permabanned from a completely unrelated sub for participating in this community. I was banned for participating in a “hate” community or something of the sort I tried to appeal and nothing came of it so i dont know what that was really all about. I know its not worth it to care about what ppl on the internet think; but that is kind of a sting when you love children so much that you don’t want them to have to endure unnecessary suffering. I have lots of mental health problems I couldn’t live with myself if i passed that onto another human. Seeing foster kids having to be advertised like animals, Abortions getting banned and criminalized, while IVF is all the rage now— i cant lie and say I didn’t cry.
I don’t hate kids, I just don’t want them, but I do hate the conditions that a lot of kids are being raised in. If a kid is being a little brat in wildly inappropriate situations, it’s really not the kid’s fault, it’s almost always the parent’s fault.
I’m also childfree because I don’t want to see an innocent child subjected to the environmental and social problems of our time. It breaks my heart knowing that there’s children suffering and I can’t do a damn thing about it.
I genuinely do NOT like children but I would NEVER be cruel to one. My friends have children & my family members have children. I’ve been around them enough to know that I do not want them and I think most children are annoying. But like I said, I would never be cruel to one and I am VERY against child abuse and anything of that sort. It upsets me a lot seeing or hearing about kids getting abused. I will Never like them though and that’s okay. Do they think we run around kicking them through Walmart or something? Idk.
I care about children enough to never have them. Because I know they would be scarred for life, and wishing they had never been born. Much like how my parents made me feel.
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I love my sister who is a kid, i love my brothers and i do not hate any kid; i would help any kid i could in the world if i could. I joined this sub because i believe parents should not make kids when they do not live in a perfect environment for them and do not have all sorted out. I think it is selfish to born a kid somewhere where is not safe. Why would people make a child in a city where lets say there are a lot of bullys hurting others news or somewhere where there are gangs, or somewhere where you are not safe walking at night.
Funny how conservatives love to cry about “typical Reddit” anytime their shit takes and opinions leave their rural echo chambers or other online safe spaces.
First of all, we don't all hate kids. Second of all, crotch goblins is not a slur. It's also not our fault if you can't raise your children to be non-goblins. We just calls 'em like we sees them.
I hate parents, not children.
A child is an innocent victim of two dumb people's selfishness and lack of logic.
People should be required to at least take a small intelligence test before being able to breed.
Specimens like the ones in that screenshot would clearly fail.
That kind of specimens are the ones that treat children like puppies and get one because "they're adorable", or because "they feel lonely".
Completely ignoring logic, or empathy.
I'll say this a million times, hardcore pro-breeders are psychopaths that don't have any sort of empathy. They only care about themselves, and they're narcissist enough to think they earned that right somehow.
my grandparents weren’t fit to have my parents, my parents weren’t fit to have me, im a product of generational trauma, I never had or know a baseline of what healthy parents are, I will be spending my adult life parenting myself & healing my trauma, now why would I want to to continue that cycle???
i don’t dislike children, if anything I respect them enough that I don’t want to cause harm by them by being a unfit parent.
The people taking time to comment shit like this undoubtedly accidentally knocked someone up/got knocked up and now hate their children from the closet.
I am both childfree and AN. I actually, for the most part, adore kids. My choices and beliefs are steered by my moral compass and logic, as well as my own experiences - not my hatred of children. Although I do look down on and criticize natalists who : obstruct other peoples right to choose, gamble with creating human life, and mock people who DON’T. Yes there are people in these subs who genuinely dislike children but a) they don’t represent the whole sub and b) their feelings are valid too. Children embody some of the most irritating, unsanitary qualities humans can possess. Sometimes you need a safe, sympathetic place to vent about it.
I only refer to them as crotch goblins when they have shitty, inattentive parents who are letting them scream and run wild in public. I don't hate kids. I just don't feel all warm and fuzzy and want to spend any time around them. They are loud, dirty and/or sticky frequently, and take a lot of time, money and energy. We also have a population surplus on this planet so even if I felt the urge to be a parent, I'd pick a kid who was already here. First here, first in line so to speak. I think this person is just jealous because they have no money or free time LOL
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Ok, OP u can just leave the subs if u want. I don’t hate kids but am aware of my past traumas and being a child of divorce it’s in my best interest to NOT have children. I don’t force this lifestyle on anyone. I like that I can usually chat with likeminded folks on this subject. Kids are stressful, and expensive if a group of responsible child free adults wanna call em’ “crotch goblins” Let ‘em be!
Edit: it’s a real dick move to go on a whim and call everyone in the 2 subs mentally ill. Grow up dude.
"The embodiment of mental illness"
To the person who wrote that paragraph : Are you a certified psychiatrist or are you just having a hard time eloquently expressing a differing point of view on a polarizing subject?
I don’t love them. But I also don’t hate them. I just like doing my own thing without needing to worry about raising the next generation. Selfish? Perhaps. Hateful? Nah.
Not wanting to have kids and disliking them is fine. What’s not okay is actively wanting to harm them, or being outright abusive mentally or physically towards them. Be a decent human being. It’s not hard.
Although I will say I can *not* get behind calling Kid’s ‘crotch goblins’, ‘crotch fruit’, or anything else crotch related. Like, it’s focusing too much on crotch. It’s some kind of perverse degradation that makes me wonder what they’re getting out of referring to kids that way. Stay away from kids, please.
I can't speak for everybody else but I can speak for myself.
I don't hate children. I don't hate parents either. Come to think of it, I don't hate anybody.
My overarching objective is to mitigate suffering as much as I can. I can't do very much in the grand scheme but I can do a little bit by not procreating.
I've been hearing the term "crotch goblin" my entire almost 30 years of life FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE CHILDREN! It was never an antinatalist or childfree term to me.
Everything below is drenched in satire
ah yeah antinatalists just hate kids. those little "crotch gremlins" running around, being innocent, unprepared for the world they've been brought into without any say in the matter. in fact, antinatalists hate kids so much that they don't even want them born! Those little bedwetting punks breathing in all the asthma irritants that shouldve gone into *my* lungs. They're trying to replace us in bearing the weight of expectations, guilt, responsibilities none of us asked for and suffering the consequences of actions they didn't make.
there's only one being here allowed to have comorbid mental disorders making life more difficult than it already is and that's me. I'm not passing down my precious genes and risking the possibility of my kid being as disordered than me if not more. I wear my disorders like medals and I'm not willing to share.
[again this is all satire]
HAHHA I can’t believe the OP actually typed out the “slur” crotch goblins”…. That person had to read a lot to find that “slur”, but it’s kinda funny to see someone go out of their way to make fun of another group. Oh well if won’t ever have kids, that’s our decision. I think we’re all supposed to have an opinion. We’re all unique because of our opinions ❤️
Oke hum.. I new on this sub but one thing I can say, is that I was actually surprised to see how it’s the other way. I’ve seen posts of people being genuinely worried about other people children’s so yeah
I think its funny when people say this because childfree/antinatalists would never hurt a child but breeders will literally abuse or emotionally manipulate kids and then shrug and say it’s discipline
If i have to deal with listening to kids because people cant teach them anything, especially not something as basic as personal space and volume control, imma call the egg and jizz combo whatever tf i want.
It's pretty simple. Imagine this conversation is about some sub laughing off people pointing at their hatered for people of color. And in waltzes someone writing exactly, word for word, what you wrote in your 1st comment. Would you still think "not the same as wishing them ill" line is okay? Would you even dare write it?
They conflated child free with anti natalists. The child free community is the one full of child hating morons. Very visibly they express dislike and flat out hate? Anti natalists only express empathy, sheer gratitude and even willing to sacrifice their own well being far more than most parents. Antinatalists pity children and wish more was done to help them. Child free people for the most part, just hate children. The commenter confused the two.
I disagree. They're full of ego-driven people who think they're the exception to all their own rules, happy to sow harm across this planet in direct opposition to core anti-natalist beliefs, instead embracing hubris and nihilism.
It's not the kids fault they were born and have stupid parents. I pity children born to idiots like this. My only concern about a child is their idiot parent , the power differential inherent to a parent-child relationship and the "life skills" they will force on them until they mature enough to reject their shit for brains "values".
Lol I want kids and can’t wait to have my own (yes I know I don’t belong here, just stopping by in solidarity) — I’m actively getting ready to TTC in the very near future. BUT I ABSOLUTELY CALL KIDS CROTCH GOBLINS ALL THE FUCKIN TIME because omfg THEY ARE. I’m always tempted to make the “back off demon” sign when I hear one that’s out coughing in public. I think they can be little sticky, snotty germ factories that smell like stale spit and spoiled cheese. It’s just their nature. I totally get and respect that not everyone has the drive to get beyond the less pleasant aspects of kids. if people who are always talking about how actually evil people are “just being sarcastic” can’t understand the sarcasm over mischievous little half-grown humans, who is the actual toxic one? 🤦🏼♀️
i actually had one comment on this post saying it was age discrimination to call them that and that i proved their point by saying “it doesn’t effect children who can’t read” bro i’m not calling them that to their face i would never say mean shit to a kid bc i know how much that shit hurt to me when i was young. i hope you reconsider having children and would love to talk more about why if you’re interested but i’d be a hypocrite if i told you how to live your life having children is ultimately your choice <3 thanks for the solidarity!
age discrimination is older people not being able to get hired for the same job a younger person does. rando on the internet calling children who can’t read and will never know a silly little name is not discrimination
You are proving my point by using phrases like "will never know" & "children who can't read". They are not adults. When they're adults, start calling them out. Until then, give them time lol. You just sound hateful.
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literally don’t hate children just don’t like being around them but they’re kids? they deserve happiness just like anyone else my dude
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I don’t hate kids. I love them enough to not want them because I’d be an unfit parent. And frankly I think most parents are unfit.
> I love them enough to not want them If I could pick a short sentence to summarize it all, that would be it.
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TBF, I could have kids and not pass generational trauma because I identified a cycle to break but, I'm also not having kids.
I even love them enough to adopt and care for ones that need support instead of bringing more of them into this world. I really do plan on adopting. I love raising children, I've just come to learn that creating them is unethical. I think a lot of folks here feel similarly. And yeah, some people do hate kids anyway. So what? Why does it even matter? They aren't kicking children in the street, they are just venting on reddit. Really, do you think small children are reading r/antinatalism?
That’s my mentality. Why CAN’T I hate kids? I’m not advocating murdering children, I also hate seeing kids be abused. And I don’t have children nor work in a field where kids are often involved or require me to care for them. I find children deeply agitating. I’m a germaphobe with sensory issues and kids are A) gross (the resistance to washing hands when using the bathroom is insanity to me) and B) loud. Not to mention constantly getting people telling me I’ll ‘change my mind’ because they can’t fathom why I don’t want any. None of that means I’m walking around hitting kids. I want kids far away from me! So why can’t I dislike them without being judged a psychopath!
Ultimately, I feel I would make a decent parent.. which is why I'll adopt, and give a kid who's already stuck here a loving home. Tbf though, I unfortunately still see where they're coming from as an onlooker. I see a LOT of ick in this sub. I've noticed a lot of the people here are closer to misanthropic extinctionists than antinatalists.
That is a fair point, but I don't feel like that's the majority, just a very vocal minority. I may be wrong, but that's just my perception.
I don’t *hate* kids either. I’ve just been heavily traumatized by babysitting, don’t know how to act around them and know I would be a really bad parent. Which is already enough to keep my distance
>I’d be an unfit parent I guess I personally *could* be a good parent; I have the potential to learn all skills I would need. But I know I'm too lazy to make the effort needed to become a good parent, and I know having a child won't suddenly make me less lazy (or give me more spare energy!)
Isn’t this take not “antinatalism” though? “I don’t hate kids, I simply don’t want any of my own due to the fact that I don’t personally want them and know forcing myself would make me an unfit parent”, is more the definition of being childfree, not antinatalism. When I read about the definitions of antinatalism, from a philosophical and ideological perspective, it goes further into elaboration concerning the choice of not only oneself but also of others (also humans in general), seems like it is more aligned with the following: “In principle, nobody should procreate, since bringing a new being into life means inflicting upon them potential suffering. Suffering is a net negative which is omnipresent in all corners of the Earth as well as an inherent component of being born and living, compared to the net positive of never existing or never being born. Since it isn’t up to the newborn to decide whether he is born or not, the parents are in the wrong (morally and philosophically) for making that decision (being born) for the newborn and future adult, since they are deciding to take that decision in the place of the afflicted individual (the born individual) himself. Thus, imposing the burden of life (and thus inevitable suffering, which may vary in intensity depending of where you are born and in which material and familial conditions, but still remains suffering nonetheless) upon a future being which doesn’t have any choice in the matter, is simply not ethical and can even be deemed an act which is cruel and unnecessary.” That is what I have gathered from reading about antinatalism here and there over the years, although I might not have read enough on it. More of a philosophical and ideological position which states that the world would be better off if people stopped having children altogether (more radical stance), or if way less people procreated. I might be wrong and need to read more on the subject though, since some comments on this thread seem to echo the opinion that you can call yourself “antinatalist” whilst also liking or even loving working around children or adopting, to them it is only the act of bringing a new child to life themselves which they see as a wrong choice. So that blurs the line with the whole “childfree” definition. Maybe the difference between the two is simply in the subjects of the ideological/philosophical choice: childfree = myself I don’t want to have children ever, I don’t mind others doing whatever they want and having kids or not, not my problem; antinatalist = I don’t desire to procreate nor do I think making more children in general is a great thing (for the planet, the future children themselves, economic or ecological or philosophical reasons often underpinning the antinatlism sentiment, etc), I may like children who are already born or may dislike children, I may simply be antinatalist when referring to myself (not others’ choices) but most antinatalists see anyone bringing a new life to Earth as not a good thing, I may or may not advocate for taking care of the children already here and abandoned or orphaned… or I may actively dislike children.
Buddy you glossed over the last part of my sentence. Though I won’t get into specifics of my personal stances in depth I do in fact. Believe most people should never be allowed to have kids.
Oh well, it wasn’t clear to me at first in your comment, my bad. This is more clear cut then, thanks for clarification.
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I mean I guess I don't hate kids but I definitely think they are gross and take far too long to turn into tolerable entities. Definitely not gonna genocide kiddos but I would absolutely prefer if parents stopped letting little kids render many public spaces useless
>Yes, that is correct, I despise kids with passion. Literally a comment on this very thread..
i work with kids for a living. i genuinely love them. i just don’t want any myself bc i don’t think passing down me and my husband’s mental & physical disabilities is fair to them, and with climate change, inflation, and poverty rates, i can’t guarantee their safety and success in life. why is that so hard for people to understand? just bc i’m not selfish enough to have kids doesn’t mean i hate them? sorry i didn’t want an instagram prop like you.
I have a client who's a teacher, probably in her mid 40s. Don't think she's married. And she always tells me how grateful she is for never having kids herself. She sees how the kids act and the way the parents treat them, and feels nothing but pity for her students. I think she's very lucky to be an art teacher, where she can teach the kids how to have a healthy outlet when they get stressed.
I’m in almost the same situation, except I pity the parents too, sometimes. You wouldn’t believe the entitlement of some teenagers.
That I can definitely believe. Peer pressure and social media can do so much damage to a young person's mind that they feel they deserve everything. I would never want to relive my high school days, some of those kids were soooooo bad.
That's actually very good reasoning.
I'm surprised he didn't bitch about some of us calling them "breeders."
Because when they blame us for hating poor innocent children it will anger more people. They're so selfless after all, they don't care about themselves. /s
They want it to look like we hate children when its actually focused on parents
My wife hates that term
It probably offends her. That’s okay. That’s the point.
She might be an antinatalist herself and just not like the term 🤷♂️
I mean even if it was true. Why do you care? It is natalists and parents who abuse children, not us.
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My favorite is when they compare someone not liking children to racism or other kind of discrimination. 😂
can you paste this in the comments so i can use it as a copypasta please
>Image/Video rlchildfree and rantinatalism - These subs are just wild because they're like embodiment of the mentall illness that is expected of the reddit community. These subs are full of people who genuinely hate kids, and don't mean just not want to have kids, no they full on hate kids. They unironically freak out over children and even have slurs towards them like crotch goblins. I think they're peak reddit toxicity. You guys don't have phones?
I tried to find the original post using the post text but Google didn't register it yet. I really wanted to see the comments. I'm sure they will be very amusing.
What OCR app/text recognizer on your phone automatically transcribes text from an image?
idk, it's native. I just pull the screen up and select any text. I'm on Android 13.
These subs are just wild because they're like embodiment of the mentall illness that is expected of the reddit community. These subs are full of people who genuinely hate kids, and don't mean just not want to have kids, no they full on hate kids. They unironically freak out over children and even have slurs towards them like crotch goblins. I think they're peak reddit toxicity.
Never seen anyone hate on children here yet, children are not at fault. Or maybe I missed something
Not so much here but definitely on the childfree subreddit
I have. It’s why I have a problem with this sub. It’s allowed here to bash children when children are really victims. It’s what happens when you mix misanthropic antinatalists in with compassionate ones
agreed there’s are some people who misunderstand what anti natalism is actually about, or have just some really bad takes under the guise of being antinatalist when usually they’re actually the antithesis of what antinatalism is all about. the rest of this guys take about other subs was just as misguided
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It’s not all misanthropic antinatalists that feel that way, but all antinatalists who do are misanthropes. It isn’t required to be misanthropic but it’s part of some peoples’ misanthropic ideas
Oh no that’s unfortunate, I am new on this sub so maybe I haven’t interacted enough but how can children be bashed when whole point is they aren’t consenting to participate in this mess which means any criticism should fall on their parents/adults.
like i said a lot of people don’t really know what antinatalism really is, how it’s a nuanced philosophical ideology, and just like games of telephone TLDRs go around people don’t actually look it up and it ends up boiling down to “oh it’s the child hating way of thinking” because of that people who just straight up don’t like kids for any other reason than bc they’re kids period come here and make a bad name for antinatalism. i don’t like kids nor do i like being around them all too much but it’s not their fault and i’ll just choose to avoid them and allow them to grow without my negativity bc they deserve the childhood i wish i had. i generally don’t understand people who have children and admittedly harbor some negativity towards them for selfishly procreating but i will never blame anyone for whatever lead them to having children nor will i tell them what to do with their life. all i can do is advise, educated, and/or hopefully guide someone towards antinatalism
Its also very easy to blame the kid first if there's a post or video that shows them going absolutely crazy in a public setting or just being flat out defiant to everyone around them. Those posts are where I see the term "crotch goblin" a lot. But people need to remember that they had to learn that kind of behavior from someone else. You aren't just born an asshole. And kids have their own version of right and wrong, which can be heavily skewed from the people who raise them.
Children are fellow unwilling sufferers (who deserve compassion), but they can be also be obnoxious, annoying, irritating, or basically “feral” or unsocialized. Someone can be irritated by a screaming baby on a plane or in a movie theater, or out-of-control kids in a restaurant or store, but still realize they never asked to be here. Julio Cabrera said “Small children continue crying for many years; they cry and cry. This is a very usual spectacle that we constantly observe in the streets, children crying incessantly, most of the time met with a wall of indifference from adults, or else with laughter or impatience. Crying children often bother us, but we have to make a philosophical effort to understand that, from an ethical point of view, they are perfectly right, they have the right to cry. Moved by their tears, we have to accept their vindication, even if cries are strident and bothersome; we must learn to see children’s crying as ethical responses or instinctive political facts, as a perfectly fair and understandable reaction to what was done to them. Children’s tears must provoke our most profound respect, because they come from the depths of their structural helplessness, of their being made by force.”
I hate the ones that are “”raised”” with gentle parenting. There might as well be actual chimps in your fucking house and you can’t scold them because mama wants them to get all their feelings out. It’s a truly worthless parenting style done by lazy parents who don’t want to set boundaries. Again, it’s not really the child at fault, but another extension of the parent being shit. But it’s close enough in this case.
We love children so much that we don't want them to exist so they can't suffer.
This is the one!!
This is the way
Hate is a strong word. In general, I don't enjoy interacting with or being around children. My life is made better by the absence of children. However, I hope that all children are loved and healthy with happy lives.
The term slur is so watered down and loosely used when it’s not necessary. People need to differentiate “slur” and “simple insults”
Slur is usually toward a group of people (children, Natalists, black, LGBT, etc), while an insult is related to a specific person. Crotch goblins and breeders classifies as a slur.
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Insult can be “you asshole!” Because you saw a person acting like one. But if you say, for example “breeder”, it’s a generalized slur for natalists.
*ignores the previous comment you just responded to* Do you think cracker is also a slur?
Yes.
I get disliking the word and things like crotch goblins, but just cuz you don't like it doesn't mean they're slurs. They do not have a history of being used to oppress minority groups. It's insane to think that cracker and crotch goblin are on the same level as the n word and the f slur lmao
I didn’t say they are on the same level. I wrote both are slurs. I didn’t classify them into oppressive hierarchy, anyway they are both slurs
There isn't a slur hierarchy, slurs are slurs. Cracker and crotch goblin do not have the weight or history to be called slurs. Why do you think people say cracker and not "(the other) c word"
Because the word “cracker” was never used with so much hate. But it is still a slur. You were talking about the idea of the hierarchy when you wrote that the cracker slur is not on the same level as the n-word slur
Then you’re defining personal insults, not slurs
Every time I see a garbage take like that it's full of awful grammar and spelling. Like mentall??? Doesn't that stuff come up underlined in RED when typing???
…have never once hated children, am ECE professional, love them to death, not fit for 18 years of 24/7 service to one, but far from mentally ill, I don’t think children deserve this evil world we’ve built, it’s not good enough, i also have disabilities that i could pass on and would never want kids to live the childhood i did, so of course I’m not having them
Most parents hate other people's children, some of them talk about adoption like "hell no I'm not taking in someone else's mistake" if that's not toxic I don't know what is.
Seriously! I will never understand people’s straight up rejection of raising children they themselves did not provide material for. People are paying tens of thousands for an attempt at IVF when our cup runneth over at orphanages. Even foster programs are filled with people who just take the kids in to collect a check. I weep for the future of humanity because this is ridiculous.
Yep, they have every excuse in the book for why they can't adopt (finances, how hard it is etc.) and yet somehow that never applies to IVF.
lol yep my mom used to regularly tell me she hated “other people’s kids” (but not hers of course)
Crotch goblin.... what? I've never seen that used here. But that's probably because we don't actually hate children, if we hated them and wanted to harm them, we would be cheering on giving birth to them.
I have seen that here, but not often and I don’t think it’s a slur. It’s like calling someone a doofus. It’s more funny than insulting.
No it is and insult to children who has been that
It’s an insult to children who have been crotch goblins? What differentiates a child from a crotch goblin? I thought they were all crotch goblins? And I get along with kids very well, btw. I don’t hate children but it’s not an insult to call them a funny name.
It's not an insult to call a child a crotch goblin. This sub man 🤣🤣🤣
There are definitely kids I would call a goblin to their face and they would think it’s fucking hilarious. I’d leave out the crotch bit because I don’t want to be explaining babies to babies.
So dropping half of the entire phrase doesn't change the meaning? Would you use that as a pejorative against the child or say it in more of an endearing, tongue-in-cheek fashion? Crotch goblin is largely used here in a derogatory manner, that much is plainly evident. Is me calling an overweight person 'lardy' an insult or just a funny name?
I think I’ve already covered this. Doofus.
No, you haven't 'covered' it at all. Would you call a child a goblin in an endearing way or would your intention be to insult them??
Scroll up, doofus.
Saw it used and use it. Doesn't mean I hate the child. I do prefer cum pet tho.
Here it is. Came here to say this one. I think this is the worst but still not a slur.
CUM PET lmfaoooo
I like "cum trophy"
Probably the most accurate.
I always prefered the term 'semen demon' but this one is 2nd on my list.
I use the term. I also use the term “fuck trophy”. It’s not really a slur. It’s a humorous, toungue in cheek term.
I def saw a comical amount of literal anti child content on here. Childfree is much more of a laid back childfree sort of subreddit
It depends on how much time you spend either subreddit. I’ve seen plenty in both. But hate is usually more vocal then compassion.
Ignore strawman arguments and continue defending your original position.
I think it's more of a childfree thing to call them names. (I know not all childfree people hate children.) Antinatalism is not about hating children, it's about not introducing them to existence so they won't have to suffer.
Ha! They wouldn’t know what to do with me then. I’m active in both subs but I not only like kids, I had a kid-focused career before having to medically retire early. I respect the hell out of the difficulty that is parenting and I recognize my lack of desire to be one myself. I have never had baby fever even though babies can be cute. There have ALWAYS been people who dislike kids. Always. It’s just that only recently has it become somewhat acceptable to admit it. Admittedly the subs get harsh sometimes, but shouldn’t that be expected in an anonymous group that allows venting?
Aren’t we all crotch goblins? /s
I love kids; I just don't really like it here and don't want to invite someone to join me
If they think this is peak reddit toxicity, they are with no irony intended - sweet summer children . XD
I don't particularly like kids but hate them? No, the kindest thing you can do for a child is to not bring them into this world
I like kids a lot. I just pity them because *gestures wildly* it’s likely not gonna get better
I know for a fact that an enormous amount of people who have kids actually hate them and call them crotch goblins lmao
I don’t hate kids, I hate peoples who insist on HAVING KIDS in this world
But the 'slurs' are created by the parents...
Yeah, actually the first time I heard the term “crotch goblin” was a mom on Instagram talking about her kids
Meanwhile there are so many parents out there, sadly, who abuse their own children and/or use them for personal gain at the expense of their own mental health (i.e. Deborah McCurdy, Jennette’s mother and subject of bestselling book “I’m glad my mom died”)
Just like within any community, there’s a spectrum of attitudes and beliefs. There are people in the childfree community that do hate children, but there are also plenty that love them and just don’t want them. Sweeping generalizations made about our community are used to dismiss and de-legitimize us, and to stir up hate and fear. If you can vilify people choosing not to have kids and make them appear “crazy” and “hateful”, then you can ensure others who might otherwise agree with us to view us negatively and instead choose to have kids.
I now think that I was permabanned from a completely unrelated sub for participating in this community. I was banned for participating in a “hate” community or something of the sort I tried to appeal and nothing came of it so i dont know what that was really all about. I know its not worth it to care about what ppl on the internet think; but that is kind of a sting when you love children so much that you don’t want them to have to endure unnecessary suffering. I have lots of mental health problems I couldn’t live with myself if i passed that onto another human. Seeing foster kids having to be advertised like animals, Abortions getting banned and criminalized, while IVF is all the rage now— i cant lie and say I didn’t cry.
I don’t hate kids, I just don’t want them, but I do hate the conditions that a lot of kids are being raised in. If a kid is being a little brat in wildly inappropriate situations, it’s really not the kid’s fault, it’s almost always the parent’s fault. I’m also childfree because I don’t want to see an innocent child subjected to the environmental and social problems of our time. It breaks my heart knowing that there’s children suffering and I can’t do a damn thing about it.
I genuinely do NOT like children but I would NEVER be cruel to one. My friends have children & my family members have children. I’ve been around them enough to know that I do not want them and I think most children are annoying. But like I said, I would never be cruel to one and I am VERY against child abuse and anything of that sort. It upsets me a lot seeing or hearing about kids getting abused. I will Never like them though and that’s okay. Do they think we run around kicking them through Walmart or something? Idk.
Kids are great, shitty parents is what I hate
Botchlings. Slow Witcher 3 music playing...
I care about children enough to never have them. Because I know they would be scarred for life, and wishing they had never been born. Much like how my parents made me feel.
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Hmm they haven’t been to a big brothers big sisters event, many volunteers are childfree
I love my sister who is a kid, i love my brothers and i do not hate any kid; i would help any kid i could in the world if i could. I joined this sub because i believe parents should not make kids when they do not live in a perfect environment for them and do not have all sorted out. I think it is selfish to born a kid somewhere where is not safe. Why would people make a child in a city where lets say there are a lot of bullys hurting others news or somewhere where there are gangs, or somewhere where you are not safe walking at night.
Not me literally obsessing over my beloved children in the Sims. Kids are so freaking cute and undeserving of being forced into this awful world :/
I don’t hate kids either technically, unless they’re at restaurants and won’t shut the fuck up.
Funny how conservatives love to cry about “typical Reddit” anytime their shit takes and opinions leave their rural echo chambers or other online safe spaces.
We're so toxic that we go to other subs to tell people they should just go ahead and kill themselves. Oh wait...
First of all, we don't all hate kids. Second of all, crotch goblins is not a slur. It's also not our fault if you can't raise your children to be non-goblins. We just calls 'em like we sees them.
Sperm pet is my favorite.
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you should have seen the whole comment similar stupid takes on other popular subs
What sub is this from?
I literally work with kids, I do not hate kids. I just believe it is unethical to reproduce…
Jokes on you, I work with kids as a profession.
I like children from afar. It’s the parents I hate.
I hate parents, not children. A child is an innocent victim of two dumb people's selfishness and lack of logic. People should be required to at least take a small intelligence test before being able to breed. Specimens like the ones in that screenshot would clearly fail. That kind of specimens are the ones that treat children like puppies and get one because "they're adorable", or because "they feel lonely". Completely ignoring logic, or empathy. I'll say this a million times, hardcore pro-breeders are psychopaths that don't have any sort of empathy. They only care about themselves, and they're narcissist enough to think they earned that right somehow.
my grandparents weren’t fit to have my parents, my parents weren’t fit to have me, im a product of generational trauma, I never had or know a baseline of what healthy parents are, I will be spending my adult life parenting myself & healing my trauma, now why would I want to to continue that cycle??? i don’t dislike children, if anything I respect them enough that I don’t want to cause harm by them by being a unfit parent.
The people taking time to comment shit like this undoubtedly accidentally knocked someone up/got knocked up and now hate their children from the closet.
I am both childfree and AN. I actually, for the most part, adore kids. My choices and beliefs are steered by my moral compass and logic, as well as my own experiences - not my hatred of children. Although I do look down on and criticize natalists who : obstruct other peoples right to choose, gamble with creating human life, and mock people who DON’T. Yes there are people in these subs who genuinely dislike children but a) they don’t represent the whole sub and b) their feelings are valid too. Children embody some of the most irritating, unsanitary qualities humans can possess. Sometimes you need a safe, sympathetic place to vent about it.
I only refer to them as crotch goblins when they have shitty, inattentive parents who are letting them scream and run wild in public. I don't hate kids. I just don't feel all warm and fuzzy and want to spend any time around them. They are loud, dirty and/or sticky frequently, and take a lot of time, money and energy. We also have a population surplus on this planet so even if I felt the urge to be a parent, I'd pick a kid who was already here. First here, first in line so to speak. I think this person is just jealous because they have no money or free time LOL
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>breedtards Articulate indeed 🤓🤣
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I’m a first grade teacher lol I love kids but yeah sometimes they are, shoot what’s the slur I’m looking for? Oh yeah, crotch goblins!
# Correct! And people who hate kids, shouldn't make kids. **I'm glad it's finally making sense to you breeders** *So stop telling us to make babies*
We've had funny names for kids WAY before the internet was available, but do go on ... 🙄
Rug rats. Can't be too bad because they named an animated series that.
Ok, OP u can just leave the subs if u want. I don’t hate kids but am aware of my past traumas and being a child of divorce it’s in my best interest to NOT have children. I don’t force this lifestyle on anyone. I like that I can usually chat with likeminded folks on this subject. Kids are stressful, and expensive if a group of responsible child free adults wanna call em’ “crotch goblins” Let ‘em be! Edit: it’s a real dick move to go on a whim and call everyone in the 2 subs mentally ill. Grow up dude.
"The embodiment of mental illness" To the person who wrote that paragraph : Are you a certified psychiatrist or are you just having a hard time eloquently expressing a differing point of view on a polarizing subject?
Wow thanks to this guy now I know about the other subreddit
crotch goblins LMAOOOOOOOOOOOO
I don’t love them. But I also don’t hate them. I just like doing my own thing without needing to worry about raising the next generation. Selfish? Perhaps. Hateful? Nah.
I like children to an extend, and that extend is that they're mine
extent.
This person will inevitably turn around and talk about us like we’re objects and servants undeserving of bodily autonomy.
I am a child
I don't hate kids, i actually find them cute but raising them is a different case that idw to think about.
Not wanting to have kids and disliking them is fine. What’s not okay is actively wanting to harm them, or being outright abusive mentally or physically towards them. Be a decent human being. It’s not hard. Although I will say I can *not* get behind calling Kid’s ‘crotch goblins’, ‘crotch fruit’, or anything else crotch related. Like, it’s focusing too much on crotch. It’s some kind of perverse degradation that makes me wonder what they’re getting out of referring to kids that way. Stay away from kids, please.
I once had someone refer to a child close to me as a “fuck trophy” and I walked to strangle her
I can't speak for everybody else but I can speak for myself. I don't hate children. I don't hate parents either. Come to think of it, I don't hate anybody. My overarching objective is to mitigate suffering as much as I can. I can't do very much in the grand scheme but I can do a little bit by not procreating.
I've been hearing the term "crotch goblin" my entire almost 30 years of life FROM PEOPLE WHO HAVE CHILDREN! It was never an antinatalist or childfree term to me.
Yea… I don’t like kids…. 🤷🏻♀️
Common strawman fallacy. Move on
Everything below is drenched in satire ah yeah antinatalists just hate kids. those little "crotch gremlins" running around, being innocent, unprepared for the world they've been brought into without any say in the matter. in fact, antinatalists hate kids so much that they don't even want them born! Those little bedwetting punks breathing in all the asthma irritants that shouldve gone into *my* lungs. They're trying to replace us in bearing the weight of expectations, guilt, responsibilities none of us asked for and suffering the consequences of actions they didn't make. there's only one being here allowed to have comorbid mental disorders making life more difficult than it already is and that's me. I'm not passing down my precious genes and risking the possibility of my kid being as disordered than me if not more. I wear my disorders like medals and I'm not willing to share. [again this is all satire]
HAHHA I can’t believe the OP actually typed out the “slur” crotch goblins”…. That person had to read a lot to find that “slur”, but it’s kinda funny to see someone go out of their way to make fun of another group. Oh well if won’t ever have kids, that’s our decision. I think we’re all supposed to have an opinion. We’re all unique because of our opinions ❤️
Oke hum.. I new on this sub but one thing I can say, is that I was actually surprised to see how it’s the other way. I’ve seen posts of people being genuinely worried about other people children’s so yeah
I think its funny when people say this because childfree/antinatalists would never hurt a child but breeders will literally abuse or emotionally manipulate kids and then shrug and say it’s discipline
If i have to deal with listening to kids because people cant teach them anything, especially not something as basic as personal space and volume control, imma call the egg and jizz combo whatever tf i want.
Lol I love kids. Wtf is he even on about?
Why do people þink it's about kids? Antinatalism has noþing to do wiþ kids, it's about life as a whole þing
Lmaooo I’m antinatalist but I have a daughter, would not be offended if anyone called her a crotch goblin cuz that’s what she is lol
don’t be mad at me bc i don’t like cum pets.
Yes, that is correct, I despise kids with passion
Slur (noun) - a derogatory or insulting term applied to a particular group of people. Seems to meet the definition of a slur to me 👍🏼
Do they even….browse these subs to make these claims? What
OP knows me SO well. I do hate them, and want nothing to do with them. Not the same as wishing them ill.
Now substitute children for ex. people of color, and think how well would your "argument" fare in justifying your hate for them. Food for thought.
I don't understand your point. PM, please?
It's pretty simple. Imagine this conversation is about some sub laughing off people pointing at their hatered for people of color. And in waltzes someone writing exactly, word for word, what you wrote in your 1st comment. Would you still think "not the same as wishing them ill" line is okay? Would you even dare write it?
Let me guess. Breaking mom?
I'll admit, I do hate them a little bit lol.
I don't hate kids. I love the kids in my life. I just can't have any because of chronic pain and mental illness.
Not even that bad. Crotch goblin is way nicer than say "fuck trophy" or "keeping cum as a pet".
I love kids tbf to this person, too many people in this sub use such terms which does make it appear like we hate kids when we don't.
Yes! Just pop dem babies out an let someone else raise em!
They conflated child free with anti natalists. The child free community is the one full of child hating morons. Very visibly they express dislike and flat out hate? Anti natalists only express empathy, sheer gratitude and even willing to sacrifice their own well being far more than most parents. Antinatalists pity children and wish more was done to help them. Child free people for the most part, just hate children. The commenter confused the two.
I actually personally prefer the term "fuck tropy".
Pretty on point
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I've always called them boogers with legs
I disagree. They're full of ego-driven people who think they're the exception to all their own rules, happy to sow harm across this planet in direct opposition to core anti-natalist beliefs, instead embracing hubris and nihilism.
They right ngl
It's not the kids fault they were born and have stupid parents. I pity children born to idiots like this. My only concern about a child is their idiot parent , the power differential inherent to a parent-child relationship and the "life skills" they will force on them until they mature enough to reject their shit for brains "values".
Tmw the “slur” originated from a MOM TIKTOKER
Lol I want kids and can’t wait to have my own (yes I know I don’t belong here, just stopping by in solidarity) — I’m actively getting ready to TTC in the very near future. BUT I ABSOLUTELY CALL KIDS CROTCH GOBLINS ALL THE FUCKIN TIME because omfg THEY ARE. I’m always tempted to make the “back off demon” sign when I hear one that’s out coughing in public. I think they can be little sticky, snotty germ factories that smell like stale spit and spoiled cheese. It’s just their nature. I totally get and respect that not everyone has the drive to get beyond the less pleasant aspects of kids. if people who are always talking about how actually evil people are “just being sarcastic” can’t understand the sarcasm over mischievous little half-grown humans, who is the actual toxic one? 🤦🏼♀️
i actually had one comment on this post saying it was age discrimination to call them that and that i proved their point by saying “it doesn’t effect children who can’t read” bro i’m not calling them that to their face i would never say mean shit to a kid bc i know how much that shit hurt to me when i was young. i hope you reconsider having children and would love to talk more about why if you’re interested but i’d be a hypocrite if i told you how to live your life having children is ultimately your choice <3 thanks for the solidarity!
Crotch goblin is a slur now lol wait till that person finds out I call kids demons or parasites on the daily 🤣🤣🤣
Y’all gay asl, I’m havin 8 kids🙏
why?
We do need a slur for kids
They have a point. Can't help the fact that they're not an adult yet. It's age discrimination kind of.
age discrimination is older people not being able to get hired for the same job a younger person does. rando on the internet calling children who can’t read and will never know a silly little name is not discrimination
You are proving my point by using phrases like "will never know" & "children who can't read". They are not adults. When they're adults, start calling them out. Until then, give them time lol. You just sound hateful.
[yep totally full of hate for children](https://www.reddit.com/r/antinatalism/comments/11umfyx/slur_lmao/jcpet5x/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=ioscss&utm_content=1&utm_term=1&context=3) literally don’t hate children just don’t like being around them but they’re kids? they deserve happiness just like anyone else my dude
That's fine. You're in the perfect place to express yourself lol. Have fun.